Steven Spielberg is Mr. Close Encounters—the filmmaker who arguably made UFOs “respectable” on screen, starting with Close Encounters of the Third Kind (and its three distinct cuts: 1977, 1980, 1998). In Episode 2, hosts Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman revisit the granddaddy of UFO cinema and explain why that movie still feels like it was beamed in from the phenomenon itself: the five-note language, the lights, the “orbs,” the stigma of reporting, and the obsessive pull that turns an ordinary guy into a human compass pointing straight at the truth. 


Then the episode pivots to the question that won’t go away: Did Spielberg ever get offered “the deal”—the same kind of covert approach Bryce and Brent say they received around Dark Skies? The guys lay out the folklore, the timing, and the circumstantial breadcrumbs, including Spielberg’s overt attempts to get cooperation (and the pushback he says he got), plus the larger “two factions” idea—some parts of government discouraging UFO talk while others may be using the cover of fiction to normalize it. 


And because this is Sound, Light & Frequency, it gets personal. Bryce shares what it’s like to be in Spielberg’s orbit—developing a UFO pilot for him, working on Taken, and sitting with Spielberg and Hanks on an Emmy night—yet still finding him a “man of mystery” on the UFO question. Brent brings the episode’s most hair-raising anecdote: what Dark Skies director Tobe Hooper once told him during a crop-circle scout—an offhand, no-BS story suggesting Spielberg had been approached and briefed. Hooper isn’t here to confirm it, but Brent and Bryce explain why they take the memory seriously. 
Finally, the guys drop the episode’s ultimate rabbit hole: Serpo—the rumored “exchange” story that sounds eerily adjacent to the film’s ending. Coincidence? Reverse-inspiration? Or something stranger, where the line between history and Hollywood gets fuzzy by design? Either way, “Mr. Close Encounters” is a smart, funny, deep dive into why Spielberg sits at the center of UFO pop culture—and why his “truth-to-fiction” ratio still haunts the conversation. 


Hosted by Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman.


Find us on iHeartPodcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.


Visit us at SoundLightFrequency.com 


Sound, Light & Frequency is produced by Stellar Productions. Executive Producers are Bryce Zabel, Brent Friedman, Nick Johnson, and Jackie Zabel. 

Steven Spielberg is Mr. Close Encounters&mdash;the filmmaker who arguably made UFOs &ldquo;respectable&rdquo; on screen, starting with Close Encounters of the Third Kind (and its three distinct cuts: 1977, 1980, 1998). In Episode 2, hosts Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman revisit the granddaddy of UFO cinema and explain why that movie still feels like it was beamed in from the phenomenon itself: the five-note language, the lights, the &ldquo;orbs,&rdquo; the stigma of reporting, and the obsessive pull that turns an ordinary guy into a human compass pointing straight at the truth.&nbsp;
 Then the episode pivots to the question that won&rsquo;t go away: Did Spielberg ever get offered &ldquo;the deal&rdquo;&mdash;the same kind of covert approach Bryce and Brent say they received around Dark Skies? The guys lay out the folklore, the timing, and the circumstantial breadcrumbs, including Spielberg&rsquo;s overt attempts to get cooperation (and the pushback he says he got), plus the larger &ldquo;two factions&rdquo; idea&mdash;some parts of government discouraging UFO talk while others may be using the cover of fiction to normalize it.&nbsp;
 And because this is Sound, Light &amp; Frequency, it gets personal. Bryce shares what it&rsquo;s like to be in Spielberg&rsquo;s orbit&mdash;developing a UFO pilot for him, working on Taken, and sitting with Spielberg and Hanks on an Emmy night&mdash;yet still finding him a &ldquo;man of mystery&rdquo; on the UFO question. Brent brings the episode&rsquo;s most hair-raising anecdote: what Dark Skies director Tobe Hooper once told him during a crop-circle scout&mdash;an offhand, no-BS story suggesting Spielberg had been approached and briefed. Hooper isn&rsquo;t here to confirm it, but Brent and Bryce explain why they take the memory seriously.&nbsp; Finally, the guys drop the episode&rsquo;s ultimate rabbit hole: Serpo&mdash;the rumored &ldquo;exchange&rdquo; story that sounds eerily adjacent to the film&rsquo;s ending. Coincidence? Reverse-inspiration? Or something stranger, where the line between history and Hollywood gets fuzzy by design? Either way, &ldquo;Mr. Close Encounters&rdquo; is a smart, funny, deep dive into why Spielberg sits at the center of UFO pop culture&mdash;and why his &ldquo;truth-to-fiction&rdquo; ratio still haunts the conversation.&nbsp;
 Hosted by Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman.
 Find us on iHeartPodcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
 Visit us at <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsoundlightfrequency.com%2F&amp;data=05%7C02%7Cdylanfagan%40iheartmedia.com%7Ca602b85309c445dac6c008de73d62315%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C639075560733255638%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=cx1eIls1lH5REEx7i3K9vqQekzK9ChTNegNXM3mSlhA%3D&amp;reserved=0" data-ogsc="" data-outlook-id="385bbdf9-59d5-4e3f-9f6e-d8c4abb3e316">SoundLightFrequency.com</a>&nbsp;
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Has the U.S. government been conducting a slow-drip UFO disclosure campaign through Hollywood movies and television for more than 70 years? The new podcast Sound, Light & Frequency tackles that mind-blowing question through an ongoing investigation hosted by two Hollywood insiders: Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman, both successful writer/producers with hundreds of credits. Bryce and Brent publicly share, for the first time, the full account of their surreal encounter with a “Man in Black” who offered them a deal to use their primetime alien-invasion drama series, Dark Skies, to spread UFO truths. Each episode takes listeners behind the scenes of iconic films and TV series, connecting what’s been portrayed on screen to what might be happening in real life—and asking whether other creators were offered “the deal,” too.

Has the U.S. government been conducting a slow-drip UFO disclosure campaign through Hollywood movies and television for more than 70 years? The new podcast Sound, Light &amp; Frequency&nbsp;tackles that mind-blowing question through an ongoing investigation hosted by two Hollywood insiders: Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman, both successful writer/producers with hundreds of credits. Bryce and Brent publicly share, for the first time, the full account of their surreal encounter with a&nbsp;&ldquo;Man in Black&rdquo; who offered them a deal to use their primetime alien-invasion drama series, Dark Skies, to spread UFO truths. Each episode takes listeners behind the scenes of iconic films and TV series, connecting what&rsquo;s been portrayed on screen to what might be happening in real life&mdash;and asking whether other creators were offered &ldquo;the deal,&rdquo; too.

Sound, Light & Frequency 

Mr. Close Encounters

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