Fresh from taping an appearance with Dr. Phil and former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Chris Mellon, Bryce brings Brent the behind-the-scenes story of the latest government UFO document release—officially known as “Tranche 4,” but perhaps better described as another UFO dump. Dr. Phil received an early look at the material, along with a handwritten message from President Trump telling him to “have some fun with this.” That unexpected detail raises a larger question: Is Dr. Phil being positioned as a trusted public voice who can help introduce Disclosure to a mainstream audience?

Bryce and Brent debate what a true global ambassador for Disclosure would need to be: credible, reassuring, internationally recognized, and somehow above today’s polarized politics. They consider politicians, journalists, filmmakers, and celebrities before arriving at one surprising choice—someone with the stature, warmth, and worldwide appeal to guide humanity through ontological shock. Listen to find out who they nominate.

Fresh from taping an appearance with Dr. Phil and former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Chris Mellon, Bryce brings Brent the behind-the-scenes story of the latest government UFO document release&mdash;officially known as &ldquo;Tranche 4,&rdquo; but perhaps better described as another UFO dump. Dr. Phil received an early look at the material, along with a handwritten message from President Trump telling him to &ldquo;have some fun with this.&rdquo; That unexpected detail raises a larger question: Is Dr. Phil being positioned as a trusted public voice who can help introduce Disclosure to a mainstream audience?
Bryce and Brent debate what a true global ambassador for Disclosure would need to be: credible, reassuring, internationally recognized, and somehow above today&rsquo;s polarized politics. They consider politicians, journalists, filmmakers, and celebrities before arriving at one surprising choice&mdash;someone with the stature, warmth, and worldwide appeal to guide humanity through ontological shock. Listen to find out who they nominate.

Has the U.S. government been conducting a slow-drip UFO disclosure campaign through Hollywood movies and television for more than 70 years? The new podcast Sound, Light & Frequency tackles that mind-blowing question through an ongoing investigation hosted by two Hollywood insiders: Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman, both successful writer/producers with hundreds of credits. Bryce and Brent publicly share, for the first time, the full account of their surreal encounter with a “Man in Black” who offered them a deal to use their primetime alien-invasion drama series, Dark Skies, to spread UFO truths. Each episode takes listeners behind the scenes of iconic films and TV series, connecting what’s been portrayed on screen to what might be happening in real life—and asking whether other creators were offered “the deal,” too.

Has the U.S. government been conducting a slow-drip UFO disclosure campaign through Hollywood movies and television for more than 70 years? The new podcast Sound, Light &amp; Frequency&nbsp;tackles that mind-blowing question through an ongoing investigation hosted by two Hollywood insiders: Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman, both successful writer/producers with hundreds of credits. Bryce and Brent publicly share, for the first time, the full account of their surreal encounter with a&nbsp;&ldquo;Man in Black&rdquo; who offered them a deal to use their primetime alien-invasion drama series, Dark Skies, to spread UFO truths. Each episode takes listeners behind the scenes of iconic films and TV series, connecting what&rsquo;s been portrayed on screen to what might be happening in real life&mdash;and asking whether other creators were offered &ldquo;the deal,&rdquo; too.

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Bonus Episode: "Have Some Fun With This"

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In this follow-up to “Missing Time It Was,” Bryce and Brent welcome documentary producer and filmmaker Dean Alioto, a longtime friend from Bryce’s UFO lunch club and a guest who lives at the exact intersection of Hollywood, UFOs, and experiencer testimony. Dean is the director of the new documentary The Experiencers: Full Disclosure, which takes the UAP conversation beyond lights in the sky and into the more difficult territory of abductions, contact, hybridization, screen memories, and the people who say the phenomenon has entered their lives directly. The conversation asks why the official world can now talk seriously about craft, pilots, and national security — but still struggles to face the human beings who say they have been taken, changed, warned, or contacted.

The episode’s centerpiece is an exclusive, never-before-aired excerpt from Dean’s interview with Travis Walton, the Arizona logger whose 1975 abduction case became one of the most famous in UFO history and inspired Fire in the Sky. In this clip, Walton reveals that he had an encounter as a child, long before his famous disappearance, raising a startling new question: was Travis a one-time abductee, or a lifelong experiencer whose 1975 ordeal was only the most public chapter of a much longer story? Bryce, who first reported on the Walton case as a young radio newsman, and Brent, who brings his own experiencer perspective, unpack what this revelation does to one of the most argued-over cases in ufology.

In the second half, the conversation turns to Alioto’s own strange place in UFO movie history as the creator of The McPherson Tape, the 1989 alien-abduction film that helped pioneer the found-footage genre before The Blair Witch Project made the form famous. Dean explains how his low-budget “War of the Worlds on videotape” became a cult object, how stripped-down versions were circulated as possible real evidence, and why he eventually had to publicly debunk his own movie. From there, the episode becomes pure Sound, Light & Frequency: does Hollywood borrow from the phenomenon, does the phenomenon borrow from Hollywood, or are both caught in the same uncanny feedback loop where fiction and testimony keep reshaping each other?

To learn more: www.SoundLightFrequency.com

In this follow-up to &ldquo;Missing Time It Was,&rdquo; Bryce and Brent welcome documentary producer and filmmaker Dean Alioto, a longtime friend from Bryce&rsquo;s UFO lunch club and a guest who lives at the exact intersection of Hollywood, UFOs, and experiencer testimony. Dean is the director of the new documentary&nbsp;The Experiencers: Full Disclosure, which takes the UAP conversation beyond lights in the sky and into the more difficult territory of abductions, contact, hybridization, screen memories, and the people who say the phenomenon has entered their lives directly. The conversation asks why the official world can now talk seriously about craft, pilots, and national security &mdash; but still struggles to face the human beings who say they have been taken, changed, warned, or contacted.
The episode&rsquo;s centerpiece is an exclusive, never-before-aired excerpt from Dean&rsquo;s interview with Travis Walton, the Arizona logger whose 1975 abduction case became one of the most famous in UFO history and inspired&nbsp;Fire in the Sky. In this clip, Walton reveals that he had an encounter as a child, long before his famous disappearance, raising a startling new question: was Travis a one-time abductee, or a lifelong experiencer whose 1975 ordeal was only the most public chapter of a much longer story? Bryce, who first reported on the Walton case as a young radio newsman, and Brent, who brings his own experiencer perspective, unpack what this revelation does to one of the most argued-over cases in ufology.
In the second half, the conversation turns to Alioto&rsquo;s own strange place in UFO movie history as the creator of&nbsp;The McPherson Tape, the 1989 alien-abduction film that helped pioneer the found-footage genre before&nbsp;The Blair Witch Project&nbsp;made the form famous. Dean explains how his low-budget &ldquo;War of the Worlds on videotape&rdquo; became a cult object, how stripped-down versions were circulated as possible real evidence, and why he eventually had to publicly debunk his own movie. From there, the episode becomes pure&nbsp;Sound, Light &amp; Frequency: does Hollywood borrow from the phenomenon, does the phenomenon borrow from Hollywood, or are both caught in the same uncanny feedback loop where fiction and testimony keep reshaping each other?
To learn more: <a href="http://www.soundlightfrequency.com/" data-ogsc="">www.SoundLightFrequency.com</a>

Lost and Found ET

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The Man Who Fell to Earth has always been more than a cult science-fiction story. Walter Tevis first imagined Thomas Jerome Newton in his 1963 novel as an alien who comes to Earth to save his dying world, only to become trapped and broken by ours. Nicolas Roeg’s haunting 1976 film, starring David Bowie, transformed that idea into one of the great screen portraits of alienation — a visitor with superior knowledge who still cannot survive capitalism, addiction, surveillance, loneliness, and human appetite.

In this episode of Sound, Light & Frequency, Bryce and Brent follow the entire strange afterlife of the concept: the book, the Bowie film, the failed 1987 television pilot, Bowie’s late-stage theatrical work Lazarus, and the 2022 Showtime series that continues the story with Bill Nighy as an older Newton and Chiwetel Ejiofor as a new alien visitor named Faraday. Along the way, they ask why this one image keeps returning across generations: the brilliant but stranded being who walks among us, hiding in plain sight, desperate to get home.

This is not just a fan conversation about a beloved science-fiction classic. Bryce and Brent connect The Man Who Fell to Earth to David Bowie’s own reported UFO experiences, to the changing way audiences think about aliens living among us, and to the larger Sound, Light & Frequency question: has Hollywood simply reflected our fascination with alien contact, or has it helped prepare us to imagine that the impossible may already be here?

To learn more: www.SoundLightFrequency.com

The Man Who Fell to Earth has always been more than a cult science-fiction story. Walter Tevis first imagined Thomas Jerome Newton in his 1963 novel as an alien who comes to Earth to save his dying world, only to become trapped and broken by ours. Nicolas Roeg&rsquo;s haunting 1976 film, starring David Bowie, transformed that idea into one of the great screen portraits of alienation &mdash; a visitor with superior knowledge who still cannot survive capitalism, addiction, surveillance, loneliness, and human appetite.
In this episode of Sound, Light &amp; Frequency, Bryce and Brent follow the entire strange afterlife of the concept: the book, the Bowie film, the failed 1987 television pilot, Bowie&rsquo;s late-stage theatrical work Lazarus, and the 2022 Showtime series that continues the story with Bill Nighy as an older Newton and Chiwetel Ejiofor as a new alien visitor named Faraday. Along the way, they ask why this one image keeps returning across generations: the brilliant but stranded being who walks among us, hiding in plain sight, desperate to get home.
This is not just a fan conversation about a beloved science-fiction classic. Bryce and Brent connect The Man Who Fell to Earth to David Bowie&rsquo;s own reported UFO experiences, to the changing way audiences think about aliens living among us, and to the larger Sound, Light &amp; Frequency question: has Hollywood simply reflected our fascination with alien contact, or has it helped prepare us to imagine that the impossible may already be here?
To learn more: <a href="http://www.soundlightfrequency.com/" data-ogsc="">www.SoundLightFrequency.com</a>

The Men Who Fell to Earth

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On December 17, 2017 — the morning after The New York Times helped blow open the modern UAP era with its Nimitz/Tic Tac reporting — Bryce Zabel was in New Orleans when he turned his phone back on and found a message from Dan Aykroyd. That voicemail, saved for nearly a decade, becomes the portal into this episode: Aykroyd talking about Bryce’s Betty and Barney Hill screenplay, the role of psychiatrist Dr. Benjamin Simon, Steven Spielberg, and, in classic Aykroyd fashion, ending with a cliffhanger about a car that “they made disappear” in front of him. From there, Bryce and Brent step into one of the strangest intersections of UFO history, Hollywood storytelling, and cultural memory: alien abduction.

The episode focuses on two foundational cases — Betty and Barney Hill in 1961 and Travis Walton in 1975 — and asks whether film and television merely reflect the UFO phenomenon or help shape how people experience and remember it. Bryce and Brent walk through the Hills’ missing time, their hypnosis sessions with Dr. Simon, the Outer Limits “Bellero Shield” theory skeptics use to question their account, John Luttrell’s overlooked Boston Traveler reporting, The Interrupted Journey, Barney Hill’s surreal appearance on To Tell the Truth, and the 1975 NBC movie The UFO Incident. Then they pivot to Walton, whose reported abduction occurred only two weeks after The UFO Incident aired, raising the uncomfortable chicken-and-egg question that runs through the entire hour.

Finally, the conversation turns to Fire in the Sky, written by Bryce’s friend Tracey Tormé, and the way Hollywood transformed Walton’s reported experience into one of the most terrifying abduction sequences ever filmed — even though Walton says that is not what happened. For Bryce, this is not an abstract topic: he reported on Walton in real time as a young radio newsman, wrote the Hill case into the Dark Skies pilot with Brent, appeared as an on-camera expert in Discovery documentaries on both cases, and has spent years developing his own Betty and Barney Hill film, Missing Time. By the end, Brent’s own missing-time memory enters the conversation, and the episode lands on the larger question: if these early abduction stories really happened, what does that mean now — especially as Spielberg’s Disclosure Day brings alien abduction back into the mainstream as something that may not be fiction at all?

To learn more: www.SoundLightFrequency.com

On December 17, 2017 &mdash; the morning after&nbsp;The New York Times&nbsp;helped blow open the modern UAP era with its Nimitz/Tic Tac reporting &mdash; Bryce Zabel was in New Orleans when he turned his phone back on and found a message from Dan Aykroyd. That voicemail, saved for nearly a decade, becomes the portal into this episode: Aykroyd talking about Bryce&rsquo;s Betty and Barney Hill screenplay, the role of psychiatrist Dr. Benjamin Simon, Steven Spielberg, and, in classic Aykroyd fashion, ending with a cliffhanger about a car that &ldquo;they made disappear&rdquo; in front of him. From there, Bryce and Brent step into one of the strangest intersections of UFO history, Hollywood storytelling, and cultural memory: alien abduction.
The episode focuses on two foundational cases &mdash; Betty and Barney Hill in 1961 and Travis Walton in 1975 &mdash; and asks whether film and television merely reflect the UFO phenomenon or help shape how people experience and remember it. Bryce and Brent walk through the Hills&rsquo; missing time, their hypnosis sessions with Dr. Simon, the&nbsp;Outer Limits&nbsp;&ldquo;Bellero Shield&rdquo; theory skeptics use to question their account, John Luttrell&rsquo;s overlooked&nbsp;Boston Traveler&nbsp;reporting,&nbsp;The Interrupted Journey, Barney Hill&rsquo;s surreal appearance on&nbsp;To Tell the Truth, and the 1975 NBC movie&nbsp;The UFO Incident. Then they pivot to Walton, whose reported abduction occurred only two weeks after&nbsp;The UFO Incident&nbsp;aired, raising the uncomfortable chicken-and-egg question that runs through the entire hour.
Finally, the conversation turns to&nbsp;Fire in the Sky, written by Bryce&rsquo;s friend Tracey Torm&eacute;, and the way Hollywood transformed Walton&rsquo;s reported experience into one of the most terrifying abduction sequences ever filmed &mdash; even though Walton says that is not what happened. For Bryce, this is not an abstract topic: he reported on Walton in real time as a young radio newsman, wrote the Hill case into the&nbsp;Dark Skies&nbsp;pilot with Brent, appeared as an on-camera expert in Discovery documentaries on both cases, and has spent years developing his own Betty and Barney Hill film,&nbsp;Missing Time. By the end, Brent&rsquo;s own missing-time memory enters the conversation, and the episode lands on the larger question: if these early abduction stories really happened, what does that mean now &mdash; especially as Spielberg&rsquo;s&nbsp;Disclosure Day brings alien abduction back into the mainstream as something that may not be fiction at all?
To learn more: <a href="http://www.soundlightfrequency.com/" data-ogsc="">www.SoundLightFrequency.com</a>

Missing Time It Was

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