On the Sunrise Morning Show, Matt Swaim welcomes Andrew Pedeprin from the Spes Solii Institute to discuss Pope Leo XIV’s recent reflections on music and worship.

Andrew shares his own musical journey from Methodist and evangelical worship to Anglicanism and ultimately a deeper appreciation for the Catholic tradition of sacred music. He and Matt explore the important distinction between musical taste and genuine reverence, and why the Church’s music should ultimately serve the worship of God rather than simply imitate whatever is popular in the culture.

The conversation looks at Pope Leo’s appreciation for Gregorian chant and the organ, the role of emotion and cultural expression in prayer, and the importance of music that is worthy of the liturgy. Matt and Andrew also discuss why young people can actually appreciate the fact that church sounds and feels different from the world.

A thoughtful conversation about sacred music, worship, reverence, culture, and why the Church shouldn't be afraid to sound like the Church.