And I'm won one. What's your emergency? My husband and my ex husband are fighting in my house, six twenty Lake Road. They have a gun. I tried to get him to stop, but man, where are you? I'm I'm in my living room. They're blocking the front door and there's a lot of blood. Okay, I need you to go somewhere safe and lock the door. The police are on their way. Okay, I'm in my room. Block stop working, ma'am. Wait near some coming Hello James Roger. Ma'am, you need to leave the house right now. Baby, baby, please, no, no, don't do this. Please don't do this. Man, ma'am are you there, ma'am? Welcome to Solve, the interactive mystery podcast where you don't just hear about crimes, you solve them. Each episode will present you with a different case inspired by a true crime. You'll interrogate suspects, piece together evidence, and investigate the crime scene. You're the detective. This is your case. Can you solve it self? Presents until death do us part? I didn't kill my wife. I didn't saying I even have to say that. We were married for twenty five years. Happily. I have a daughter enrolled it hurt mouth Christ. Our family photos look like the goddamn picture that comes in the frame when you buy it. Yeah, I admit I might have royally fucked things up last you were that voicemail, But there is a difference between what I did and cold blooded murder. Hey, honey, calling from the hotel Coombomba. I just want to let you know I landed safely. I'm gonna be in meetings all week. What's new there? So you can't reach me? That's why Anyway, I love you, I miss you. And oh hey, tell Margaret, I'm gonna get her that Japanese Chalok what you like? Does your wife really buy that? Ship? Dan? It's like a child. She believes anything you tell her. You're bad, I am diabolical. Oh oh, oh oh ship, it's just six fol long. Have you spoken to your father? I'm never talking to that asshole ever again, and neither should you not call me that right now? This is serious. He's not perfect, but he loves you. Why are you defending dad? I mean, first he cheats on you, then he divorces you. Now he's moving in with his child bride, Rachel. What her name is Rachel? She actually went to Dartmouth two, or maybe it was Vasser. This is crazy, Mom. You're acting like nothing happened, Like a tornado didn't just rip through our entire life. Exactly do you want me to do? I slept across from the same man for the last twenty five years, and now he's not here, and I can't even leave the house because I don't know who I am when I walk out the door anymore. Do you want me to come home? No, munchkin, it's okay. I I don't want you to see me like this. Are you sure I can book a flight tonight? I am sure. Enjoy school, Enjoy your friends. I am going to get through this. I I just don't know how yet. Promise me you'll get out of the house at least for a little bit, Okay, much, I promise. Sorry, new speakers, I can't get the damn thing to stop playing. Oh there it is? Oh wait, perfect? Actually Dana made this playlist for me ever since she well, you know, that's all I listened to. Poor thing. She just wasn't the same after the divorce, and I tried to be a supported friend. But I was dating my boyfriend Roger at the time, who wasn't dating as big as fan. He used to call her desperate Dana. I never told her that. God I wish I had. What about him? Oh he's cute. Yeah, he's twenty eight, So what you could be a cougar? I hear mills are very in this season. I don't know why I even agreed to this. I'm swiping right, No, please don't don't too late. I'm trying to watch the game over here. Sorry, Han, just trying to get day to some action. Why don't you just tell the neighborhood gets around my house. I'm all for it. You mean my house? Yeah, that's what I said. It's been such an asshole lately. What are you looking for in a man anyway? I don't know. Maybe a guy who's nice, likes to travel, was born before. I don't want to meet them on some sketchy dating apps. I really so much to ask for. Probably I should get going. You just got here. It's okay, I have to be up early anyway, night roads are back at you. You'll call me tomorrow. Yeah, I don't want have anyone else to talk to you. I don't see why you can't be a little nicer to Oh, I don't see why you have to turn my your home into the first wives club for every divorce, say in the neighborhood, Say what you want. But she was there for me when Steve and I broke up. She bought me chocolate flowers. She even made me this playlist and all the songs had her cute little nickname for me. And I know, I know, it's just she's been here every night this I know, I know because I'm trying to find her a date. She's a catch, She's loyal, she's fun. She well, I shouldn't say this. Dana is doing quite well for herself since the divorce, financially speaking. How much are we talking here? Well, I obviously didn't ask, but her ex made a boatload in the real estate industry and he was broke when they met, So no prenup. She is a catch, Roger kidding. I just wanted on record that this all started because Barbara asked me to go over to Danas to fix her sink. I mean, I was trying to be a good guy. The woman didn't have a man in her life, and honestly, I felt bad for And I know what you're thinking, but it ain't true. I didn't find Cubidaro. It found me that should do it. You are a life saver, Roger. Please, I'm gonna sucker for a damsel in distress, especially if she's cute. Let me guess Barbara told you to say that. I'm serious. You're a catch. Okay, Prince Charming. Thanks for the inspiring words. Hey, you wouldn't happen to have a spare shirt lying around since all dirty? Um? Yeah, I should have one of my exes around here, somewhere you can change in the bathroom. We're here, right in front of me. Dana, Dana, Dana. Oh, Roger, Roger, Roger. I think it's really brave what you're doing. It's just a shirt, really, No, I mean with the divorce, I know what it's like to start over. When my wife and I split, I thought I'd never find love again. Not having that intimacy, the meals, the secrets, the vacations, I don't know, it just made life seem so lonely. Exactly a really good listener. No one's ever told me that before. Maybe you're not spending time with the right people. Mm hmm. You know I should get you that shirt, Barbara, Barbara is probably expecting you home. I've got all the time in the world, so I kind of maybe met a guy. You're kidding, Mom, you're that shot someone would be interested in your mother. I just thought things were going slowly on that front. Well, the name as Roger, and he's an entrepreneur. He iss cute, he likes to trouble, and he wears these sexy cowboy boots. Seriously, Oh, come on, something fun about him. What's his last name? I want to do some cyberstalking. Oh, I don't even know if it's that serious. Mom. You've literally swiped left on half the men in New York and now you find when you like and you're not sure if it's serious. Well, there's some there's complications. He can't get it up, munchkin. It's very common for men around your age. He's doing more than fine in that department, Thank you very much. Okay, too much information? What is it he's dating another woman? Is it serious? I don't know. Well, just ask him. It's not him, I'm worried about. It's Barbara. What does Barbara have to do with anything? Are you really going to make me spell it out? Look? I love my mother, but like she wasn't exactly a rocket scientist, especially when it came to men. I told her the way relationship starts at the same way it ends. So if he's cheating on your best friend, how long until he's cheating on you. I'm not saying what happened to my mom is her own fault. I'm just saying if she had listened to me, all of this could have been avoided and I would be in my policyde class right now instead of here spilling my guts to a bunch of idiots who couldn't solve a murder if it took a crap on their head. I'm I'm kidding. I'm sure if a case literally defecated on your head, you could solve it. You're welcome. We can't do this, Roger, I was going to text you the same thing. Really, it's just not fair to Barbara. She's my best friend. She found out. Of course, just because two people connect on such a deep, primal level doesn't mean they should pursue it primal. Wow, I'm so corny. Forgive me. No, it's cute. You're all I can think about. I woke up this morning and I just wanted to see your face. I've been dying if I didn't think the same thing. Can I delete your number? Otherwise I'm just going to want to text youkay. I guess, by the way, I think I left my shirt at your place. I'm looking at it right now. I guess you can just throw it out. I could do that, or you could come over and get it already on my way. Okay, I see, I see where you're going with this. My best friend has an affair with my boyfriend, and I want revenge, so I killed her. Well, let me stop you right there. I didn't even like Roger that much really. I mean one second he's all lovey dovey, and the next he's telling me I could afford to lose a few pounds. The man is like a roulette wheel. You never know which Roger you're gonna get. Actually, there's only one thing that he likes, no matter what side of the bed he wakes up on, and that's money. Of course, Barbara would say that she was obsessed with me. Did she tell you she used to park her car outside the house and just stare at us for hours? And I forgot to mention that, did she The truth is I would have loved Dana if she was holding a squeegee on the side of the goddamn road, and if you must know, she was the one who wanted to spoil me. Welcome to the Beverly Hills Hotel. Welcome to the Western Club Osaka. Hey Dana, it's James, just trying to get all of you. Kind of an emergency. I don't know. I guess i'll called back a. Welcome to the Aloha Spirit Resorting Spa. Your room is ready for you on the third floor. Thank you so much. I thought we got the penthouse. I'm not seeing that here. Well, maybe you should look a little harder. It appears there is one room available. There will be an extra fee. We'll take it. I love you, Peaches, you more, honey Bunny. Hey James again, listen, we um we really need to talk about mark with tuition. Thanks certain, well, they're not really great right now, We'll have the lobster bisc the clams casino, the linguini, the chocolate lava cake. Screw it, just bring up the whole damn menu. I take it you're still avoiding me. I guess I deserve that. I really didn't want to do this over voicemail. But um, I'm falling apart over here. Remember my partner's in Japan. They screwed me over, just completely wipe me out. As soon as Rachel found out. I couldn't keeper in guci. She left no surprises there, I guess. And this is hard for me to say. I um, hi, I can't afford Margaret's tuition. If you can cover next semester, just until I'm a little more liquid, it would really help. I miss you so much. Dana. You have to try this lava cake. Anybody. M hm, this is amazing. Wait that I don't anything. No, there's definitely something in there. It looks so shiny. Maybe you should pick it up. Oh my god, it's it's a ring. Dna. You're the love of my life. I know it's only been a few months, but when you're my age, you know I've made every mistake a man can make in the screwed up world, and the saint one of them. Will you marry me? Mom? Please tell me you didn't say yes. It's that I would think about it. What is there to think about? You barely know this guy. I know how he makes me feel. I know I knew your father for twenty five years, and look how that turned out. Promise me you won't say yes until I at least meet him. I can't even find this guy on Google. And if you end up a lampshade in his basement, I'm gonna feel guilty. Why I can't think I would make a cute lampshade. Mom, promise, okame on Skain, I promise, trust me, you aren't gonna love him. So I come home for Christmas and I meet Roger and he's actually really nice, funny, charming, handsome, the whole thing. But something kept hugging at me, Like he says, he's this really successful entrepreneur and he's founded all of these companies. But he's living at our house. It's weird. So the two of them go out to see a movie and I figure, why not do a little snooping in his stuff? If this guy is really so perfect, I'm not going to find anything. Right. It took me under an hour to unravel this dude's entire identity. He had boxes in my dad's old crawl space, dozens of them, and they're all filled with these legal documents. So I start reading them and it suddenly becomes very clear. Roger's actual name is Chuck Raspittoli, which explains why he's the only human on earth you can't google. Now. Roger might not have a police record, but Chuck sure as hell does. Embezzlement, aggravated assault, restraining orders. There were crimes he was accused of I didn't even know existed. Now, naturally, I lose track of time because there's like thousands of pages, and before I even realize it, he's standing right behind me. Do I Jesus you know you shouldn't go through other people's things. Oh, I was just looking for my pictures. Good because those boxes belong to an old friend of mine and he's pretty private guy. Chuck Raspitoally, yeah, Chucky boy, he's trying to turn over a new leaf. But when you put him in a corner, who those what'll do? Okay, Chuck, I mean Roger, I'm going to go downstairs. You forgot your pictures? Mom, We really need to talk about this. I already told you whatever happened between you and Roger, not his name, whatever it is, I don't want to be in the middle of it. You're literally dating a criminal who changed his identity. Do you know how insane. That is, Actually we're not dating. You broke up with him. I married him. Oh my god. Okay, I know he's not perfect, but who is. We all make mistakes. His were just a little bigger than normal. You already knew all this stuff about him before I told you, didn't you? Fine? I didn't say anything because because I thought this would happen. People can change. I know I have, and I hope you can too. Roger's home. I have to call much again, MoMA, And that was the last time I heard my mother's voice. I would text her, not hear anything for days, and then get these really cryptic responses. I'm really worried about you. Oh, well, maybe you should worry about yourself. College is expensive these days. What does that mean? It means Dartmouth just raised their tuition and I am starting to wonder why I'm the one on the hook for it. Fine, be a bitch get ripped off by some carnival grifter. I don't care anymore. Oh and you think I do. As far as I'm concerned, Margaret, you can pay for your own damn college. Well, then you can pay for your own damn funeral, because that's where all this is heading. That wasn't a threat. I was just stating a fact. You lay down with a dog, you're gonna get fleas. Besides, there's no way that that was my mom texting me. She never called me Margaret. It was always Munchkin. She literally had a nickname for everyone. That sociopath Roger Chuck, whatever his name is, obviously took her phone. Maybe you should worry about yourself. College is expensive these days. It means Dartmouth just raise their tuition, and I'm starting to wonder why I'm the one on the hook for it. But you think I do. As far as I'm concerned, Margaret, you could pay for your own damn college. I'm not gonna sit here and rehash every little thing I did or didn't do. Margaret acts like she's some innocent bystander and all this, Well, that's a bunch of bullshit. I'm not the one who profited off a Dana taking a dirt nap. Little miss Munchkin was the one snooping around her mom's house, not me. She was looking for Dana's will. I never even saw the thing until Margaret dug it up the other day. Tell you what you really want to know who killed her, follow them, and you're sure about this? Well, I I feel she's positive. Respectfully, Roger, i'd like to hear that from my client. You already have. She wants to take her daughter out of her will and put me in it. It's not complicated. I'm sorry. Are you a lawyer? I don't know. Do I look like I have horns growing out of my goddamn skull? Roger? Sorry, I'm just a little on edge lately. Dana has a lot of enemies. She stopped paying her daughter's tuition, her ex husband is basically stalking her, plus she eloped with her best friend. I don't think we need to go into the details. Let's just say it's really scary right now, and God forbid anything happens to me. I want Roger to be taken care of. I will see what I can do good. I'm heading out of town tomorrow, but when I get back next week, I expect this to be handled. I said, I'll see what I can do your I'm well getting paid enough to about tuesday, we'll be expecting those papers. I gotta take this. I should probably go to Dana. Yeah, be careful, Dana, What did you mean by. Be careful. It's two in the morning. You've said it before I left your office, and I can't figure out why you would say something like that. Is Roger nearby? He left last night. I think you're married to an extremely dangerous man. That's no Roger wouldn't He loves me, Dana, I don't think you called to tell me Roger loves you. You call it? It It goes steep down. You know something's wrong. Jesus, What Mike can I do? Hallen? Was it gone for a few days? Good? Go through his stuff, take pictures, videos, document everything. There's no telling what he'll do, and you're gonna need evidence if this goes where I think it's going. Hi, my name is Diana Carson. The date is June PM. I'm in my home and I found this safe. It belongs to my husband. I'm going to try to open it. Okay, it's not his birthday, it's not my birthday. Ship Okay, wait, Chuck, Chuck, yes, holy shit. Please thank you for reaching the offices of Stagner and Current. Please leave your message at the town I think you were right. I know you were right. I opened your safe and I someone's on the other line. Call me when you get this. Jeemes, good you picked up. I wasn't. I wasn't expecting that. There is so much I want to talk to you about it. Come over, come over to the house now. I need you. Of course. I can't tell you how good it is to hear your boys. I have been thinking about Dana. I don't even know where to start. Let me go first. I've made so many mistakes. I thought you were stopping me from having a life, and now I know, Dana, you are my life, sweetie. No, let me finish. I will do whatever it takes to win you back, to win our family back. Sweetie, I know you want that too. Why else would you call me here? This isn't about you, asshole? What are you talking about? You know? Actually it is about you. It's always about you. You treated me like some item on a checklist, our entire marriage, and as soon as you checked it off, you didn't give a ship. And then somebody else comes along and they care about me, what I want and what I need, or at least they pretend to, And it feels so fucking good that I can't see five inches in front of my own face. What is that on your finger. It's a wedding ring. I tried to start over, and somehow I'm even worse off than when I started. And it's all because of you. You're joking, right, You already got remarried, Dane. It's only been six months. Oh oh, you want to see a joke. Come on me. Here look at these guns, bullets, my bank codes. Oh, and there's my Social Security number? Because of you, this is my life. I can't believe you would do this to me. Anybody is that him? Be right there? He is supposed to be out of town. Wait? Does he have this place bucked? Dana? What the hell is going on? His car? Is that in the driveway? Hello? What are you doing with that gun? It's her husband's car. I've been waiting for this day, really, because I had no idea you even existed. Keep mad talking me like that, and you're gonna find out just how real I am. Or you can get the funk out of my house and I might let you leave in one piece. Okay, how about you both leave just right now? Your house? You hear that, Dana? His house? Say I didn't want you? Oh my god, oh my god? Nine one one? What's your emergency? My husband and my ex husband are fighting in my house six twenty late road. They have a gun. I tried to get him to stop, but a man, where are you? I'm in my living room. They're blocking the front door and there's a lot of blood. Okay, I need you to go somewhere safe and lock the door. The police are on their way. Okay, I'm in my room. Block stop working. Ma'am. Wait where you some coming? Hello, James Roger. Mammy, you need to leave the house right now, baby, baby, please, no, no, don't do this, Please don't do this, please, ma'am. Man are you there? Oh, my god, ma'am, ma'am are you there? Hello? Are you there? You've reached the end of the investigation. It's time to decide who you think Dana's killer is. Here are your suspects. Dana's daughter Margaret. Look, I love my mother, but like she wasn't exactly a rocket scientist, especially when it came to men. Danna's ex husband, James, I didn't kill my wife just saying I even have to say that. We were married for twenty five years, happily. Her former best friend Barbara. I see, I see where you're going with this. My best friend has an affair with my boyfriend and I want revenge, so I killed her. Well, let me stop you right there. Or her current husband, Roger, that the woman didn't have a man in her life, and honestly, I felt bad for and I know what you're thinking, But I didn't find Cupidsaro. It found me. We'll have the answer after a word from our sponsor. Yeah, so who killed Dana. Dana's killer was her best friend Barbara. She thought Dana stole Roger from her and wanted revenge. Okay, I see, I see where you're going with this. My best friend has an affair with my boyfriend and I want revenge, so I killed her. Of course, Barbara would say that she was obsessed with me. Did she tell you She used to park her car outside the house and just stare at us for hours. What gave Barbara away was Dana's dying words, maybe baby, please, no, no, don't do this. Because Dana had a nickname for everyone. She never called me Margaret. It was always munchkin. She literally had a nickname for everyone. Can you call me that right now? This is serious. You are my sweetie, to win our family back, sweetie, but We'll take it. I love you, Peaches. The name Dana called the Killer was the same nickname she had for Barbara. I'm serious. She really took care of me. She bought me chocolate flowers. She even made me this playlist and all the songs had her cute little nickname for me in it. Actually, Dana made this playlist for me ever since she is whoa you know, until I listened to baby Baby, Please, no, No, don't do this. This episode was inspired by a true crime that occurred in two thousand and fourteen, when a wealthy divorced woman began dating a man who had a secret criminal past despite warnings from her family that her life was in danger. The two got married and moved in together. Shortly after, the husband tried to extort the woman for money and was killed while attempting to kidnap her daughter. Dana was played by Lisa Fussen, James by Andy Milder, Margaret by Serrie Miller, Roger by Roy Samuelson, Barbara by Nadine Ellis, Shanna by Anne's son, Mistress by Sam Valentine, Nine on one Operator by Angela Quintana, Concierge one by Angelie Kane, Concierge two by Michael Muresma, Concierge three by Piper Gillen, Written by Adam Letterer, directed by Walt Palmer, produced, recorded and mixed by Salt Audio Executive Produced by Corey Search and Walt Palmer. Sound designed by Jasper van Dyke for Salt Audio. Original music and score by Noah Gersh and Jamie Scheffman at Salt Audio Production Coordinator Liz Lamy. Recorded at todd Ao Studios. This episode of Salve was hosted by me Courtney Falsey. Next time on Solve, a college student is killed in cold blood. You're now learning that the body of twenty one year old Rob Holt has been discovered in the backseat of his car. The victim is said to have been found with gunshot wounds to the face and chef, and the verdict is in. Julia Harris has been found guilty of first degree murder in the killing of her ex boyfriend. For two years, I've been locked up, away from my parents, my friends for something I didn't do. I've used all my appeals, I tried hiring new lawyers. Nobody believes me, but I know that these podcasts sometimes they clear people's names right, get them a new trial. Listen, you're my last chance. Here. I swear to you I'm innocent. Tune in next week to find out

And I'm won one. What's your emergency? My husband and my ex husband are fighting in my house, six twenty Lake Road. They have a gun. I tried to get him to stop, but man, where are you? I'm I'm in my living room. They're blocking the front door and there's a lot of blood. Okay, I need you to go somewhere safe and lock the door. The police are on their way. Okay, I'm in my room. Block stop working, ma'am. Wait near some coming Hello James Roger. Ma'am, you need to leave the house right now. Baby, baby, please, no, no, don't do this. Please don't do this. Man, ma'am are you there, ma'am? Welcome to Solve, the interactive mystery podcast where you don't just hear about crimes, you solve them. Each episode will present you with a different case inspired by a true crime. You'll interrogate suspects, piece together evidence, and investigate the crime scene. You're the detective. This is your case. Can you solve it self? Presents until death do us part? I didn't kill my wife. I didn't saying I even have to say that. We were married for twenty five years. Happily. I have a daughter enrolled it hurt mouth Christ. Our family photos look like the goddamn picture that comes in the frame when you buy it. Yeah, I admit I might have royally fucked things up last you were that voicemail, But there is a difference between what I did and cold blooded murder. Hey, honey, calling from the hotel Coombomba. I just want to let you know I landed safely. I'm gonna be in meetings all week. What's new there? So you can't reach me? That's why Anyway, I love you, I miss you. And oh hey, tell Margaret, I'm gonna get her that Japanese Chalok what you like? Does your wife really buy that? Ship? Dan? It's like a child. She believes anything you tell her. You're bad, I am diabolical. Oh oh, oh oh ship, it's just six fol long. Have you spoken to your father? I'm never talking to that asshole ever again, and neither should you not call me that right now? This is serious. He's not perfect, but he loves you. Why are you defending dad? I mean, first he cheats on you, then he divorces you. Now he's moving in with his child bride, Rachel. What her name is Rachel? She actually went to Dartmouth two, or maybe it was Vasser. This is crazy, Mom. You're acting like nothing happened, Like a tornado didn't just rip through our entire life. Exactly do you want me to do? I slept across from the same man for the last twenty five years, and now he's not here, and I can't even leave the house because I don't know who I am when I walk out the door anymore. Do you want me to come home? No, munchkin, it's okay. I I don't want you to see me like this. Are you sure I can book a flight tonight? I am sure. Enjoy school, Enjoy your friends. I am going to get through this. I I just don't know how yet. Promise me you'll get out of the house at least for a little bit, Okay, much, I promise. Sorry, new speakers, I can't get the damn thing to stop playing. Oh there it is? Oh wait, perfect? Actually Dana made this playlist for me ever since she well, you know, that's all I listened to. Poor thing. She just wasn't the same after the divorce, and I tried to be a supported friend. But I was dating my boyfriend Roger at the time, who wasn't dating as big as fan. He used to call her desperate Dana. I never told her that. God I wish I had. What about him? Oh he's cute. Yeah, he's twenty eight, So what you could be a cougar? I hear mills are very in this season. I don't know why I even agreed to this. I'm swiping right, No, please don't don't too late. I'm trying to watch the game over here. Sorry, Han, just trying to get day to some action. Why don't you just tell the neighborhood gets around my house. I'm all for it. You mean my house? Yeah, that's what I said. It's been such an asshole lately. What are you looking for in a man anyway? I don't know. Maybe a guy who's nice, likes to travel, was born before. I don't want to meet them on some sketchy dating apps. I really so much to ask for. Probably I should get going. You just got here. It's okay, I have to be up early anyway, night roads are back at you. You'll call me tomorrow. Yeah, I don't want have anyone else to talk to you. I don't see why you can't be a little nicer to Oh, I don't see why you have to turn my your home into the first wives club for every divorce, say in the neighborhood, Say what you want. But she was there for me when Steve and I broke up. She bought me chocolate flowers. She even made me this playlist and all the songs had her cute little nickname for me. And I know, I know, it's just she's been here every night this I know, I know because I'm trying to find her a date. She's a catch, She's loyal, she's fun. She well, I shouldn't say this. Dana is doing quite well for herself since the divorce, financially speaking. How much are we talking here? Well, I obviously didn't ask, but her ex made a boatload in the real estate industry and he was broke when they met, So no prenup. She is a catch, Roger kidding. I just wanted on record that this all started because Barbara asked me to go over to Danas to fix her sink. I mean, I was trying to be a good guy. The woman didn't have a man in her life, and honestly, I felt bad for And I know what you're thinking, but it ain't true. I didn't find Cubidaro. It found me that should do it. You are a life saver, Roger. Please, I'm gonna sucker for a damsel in distress, especially if she's cute. Let me guess Barbara told you to say that. I'm serious. You're a catch. Okay, Prince Charming. Thanks for the inspiring words. Hey, you wouldn't happen to have a spare shirt lying around since all dirty? Um? Yeah, I should have one of my exes around here, somewhere you can change in the bathroom. We're here, right in front of me. Dana, Dana, Dana. Oh, Roger, Roger, Roger. I think it's really brave what you're doing. It's just a shirt, really, No, I mean with the divorce, I know what it's like to start over. When my wife and I split, I thought I'd never find love again. Not having that intimacy, the meals, the secrets, the vacations, I don't know, it just made life seem so lonely. Exactly a really good listener. No one's ever told me that before. Maybe you're not spending time with the right people. Mm hmm. You know I should get you that shirt, Barbara, Barbara is probably expecting you home. I've got all the time in the world, so I kind of maybe met a guy. You're kidding, Mom, you're that shot someone would be interested in your mother. I just thought things were going slowly on that front. Well, the name as Roger, and he's an entrepreneur. He iss cute, he likes to trouble, and he wears these sexy cowboy boots. Seriously, Oh, come on, something fun about him. What's his last name? I want to do some cyberstalking. Oh, I don't even know if it's that serious. Mom. You've literally swiped left on half the men in New York and now you find when you like and you're not sure if it's serious. Well, there's some there's complications. He can't get it up, munchkin. It's very common for men around your age. He's doing more than fine in that department, Thank you very much. Okay, too much information? What is it he's dating another woman? Is it serious? I don't know. Well, just ask him. It's not him, I'm worried about. It's Barbara. What does Barbara have to do with anything? Are you really going to make me spell it out? Look? I love my mother, but like she wasn't exactly a rocket scientist, especially when it came to men. I told her the way relationship starts at the same way it ends. So if he's cheating on your best friend, how long until he's cheating on you. I'm not saying what happened to my mom is her own fault. I'm just saying if she had listened to me, all of this could have been avoided and I would be in my policyde class right now instead of here spilling my guts to a bunch of idiots who couldn't solve a murder if it took a crap on their head. I'm I'm kidding. I'm sure if a case literally defecated on your head, you could solve it. You're welcome. We can't do this, Roger, I was going to text you the same thing. Really, it's just not fair to Barbara. She's my best friend. She found out. Of course, just because two people connect on such a deep, primal level doesn't mean they should pursue it primal. Wow, I'm so corny. Forgive me. No, it's cute. You're all I can think about. I woke up this morning and I just wanted to see your face. I've been dying if I didn't think the same thing. Can I delete your number? Otherwise I'm just going to want to text youkay. I guess, by the way, I think I left my shirt at your place. I'm looking at it right now. I guess you can just throw it out. I could do that, or you could come over and get it already on my way. Okay, I see, I see where you're going with this. My best friend has an affair with my boyfriend, and I want revenge, so I killed her. Well, let me stop you right there. I didn't even like Roger that much really. I mean one second he's all lovey dovey, and the next he's telling me I could afford to lose a few pounds. The man is like a roulette wheel. You never know which Roger you're gonna get. Actually, there's only one thing that he likes, no matter what side of the bed he wakes up on, and that's money. Of course, Barbara would say that she was obsessed with me. Did she tell you she used to park her car outside the house and just stare at us for hours? And I forgot to mention that, did she The truth is I would have loved Dana if she was holding a squeegee on the side of the goddamn road, and if you must know, she was the one who wanted to spoil me. Welcome to the Beverly Hills Hotel. Welcome to the Western Club Osaka. Hey Dana, it's James, just trying to get all of you. Kind of an emergency. I don't know. I guess i'll called back a. Welcome to the Aloha Spirit Resorting Spa. Your room is ready for you on the third floor. Thank you so much. I thought we got the penthouse. I'm not seeing that here. Well, maybe you should look a little harder. It appears there is one room available. There will be an extra fee. We'll take it. I love you, Peaches, you more, honey Bunny. Hey James again, listen, we um we really need to talk about mark with tuition. Thanks certain, well, they're not really great right now, We'll have the lobster bisc the clams casino, the linguini, the chocolate lava cake. Screw it, just bring up the whole damn menu. I take it you're still avoiding me. I guess I deserve that. I really didn't want to do this over voicemail. But um, I'm falling apart over here. Remember my partner's in Japan. They screwed me over, just completely wipe me out. As soon as Rachel found out. I couldn't keeper in guci. She left no surprises there, I guess. And this is hard for me to say. I um, hi, I can't afford Margaret's tuition. If you can cover next semester, just until I'm a little more liquid, it would really help. I miss you so much. Dana. You have to try this lava cake. Anybody. M hm, this is amazing. Wait that I don't anything. No, there's definitely something in there. It looks so shiny. Maybe you should pick it up. Oh my god, it's it's a ring. Dna. You're the love of my life. I know it's only been a few months, but when you're my age, you know I've made every mistake a man can make in the screwed up world, and the saint one of them. Will you marry me? Mom? Please tell me you didn't say yes. It's that I would think about it. What is there to think about? You barely know this guy. I know how he makes me feel. I know I knew your father for twenty five years, and look how that turned out. Promise me you won't say yes until I at least meet him. I can't even find this guy on Google. And if you end up a lampshade in his basement, I'm gonna feel guilty. Why I can't think I would make a cute lampshade. Mom, promise, okame on Skain, I promise, trust me, you aren't gonna love him. So I come home for Christmas and I meet Roger and he's actually really nice, funny, charming, handsome, the whole thing. But something kept hugging at me, Like he says, he's this really successful entrepreneur and he's founded all of these companies. But he's living at our house. It's weird. So the two of them go out to see a movie and I figure, why not do a little snooping in his stuff? If this guy is really so perfect, I'm not going to find anything. Right. It took me under an hour to unravel this dude's entire identity. He had boxes in my dad's old crawl space, dozens of them, and they're all filled with these legal documents. So I start reading them and it suddenly becomes very clear. Roger's actual name is Chuck Raspittoli, which explains why he's the only human on earth you can't google. Now. Roger might not have a police record, but Chuck sure as hell does. Embezzlement, aggravated assault, restraining orders. There were crimes he was accused of I didn't even know existed. Now, naturally, I lose track of time because there's like thousands of pages, and before I even realize it, he's standing right behind me. Do I Jesus you know you shouldn't go through other people's things. Oh, I was just looking for my pictures. Good because those boxes belong to an old friend of mine and he's pretty private guy. Chuck Raspitoally, yeah, Chucky boy, he's trying to turn over a new leaf. But when you put him in a corner, who those what'll do? Okay, Chuck, I mean Roger, I'm going to go downstairs. You forgot your pictures? Mom, We really need to talk about this. I already told you whatever happened between you and Roger, not his name, whatever it is, I don't want to be in the middle of it. You're literally dating a criminal who changed his identity. Do you know how insane. That is, Actually we're not dating. You broke up with him. I married him. Oh my god. Okay, I know he's not perfect, but who is. We all make mistakes. His were just a little bigger than normal. You already knew all this stuff about him before I told you, didn't you? Fine? I didn't say anything because because I thought this would happen. People can change. I know I have, and I hope you can too. Roger's home. I have to call much again, MoMA, And that was the last time I heard my mother's voice. I would text her, not hear anything for days, and then get these really cryptic responses. I'm really worried about you. Oh, well, maybe you should worry about yourself. College is expensive these days. What does that mean? It means Dartmouth just raised their tuition and I am starting to wonder why I'm the one on the hook for it. Fine, be a bitch get ripped off by some carnival grifter. I don't care anymore. Oh and you think I do. As far as I'm concerned, Margaret, you can pay for your own damn college. Well, then you can pay for your own damn funeral, because that's where all this is heading. That wasn't a threat. I was just stating a fact. You lay down with a dog, you're gonna get fleas. Besides, there's no way that that was my mom texting me. She never called me Margaret. It was always Munchkin. She literally had a nickname for everyone. That sociopath Roger Chuck, whatever his name is, obviously took her phone. Maybe you should worry about yourself. College is expensive these days. It means Dartmouth just raise their tuition, and I'm starting to wonder why I'm the one on the hook for it. But you think I do. As far as I'm concerned, Margaret, you could pay for your own damn college. I'm not gonna sit here and rehash every little thing I did or didn't do. Margaret acts like she's some innocent bystander and all this, Well, that's a bunch of bullshit. I'm not the one who profited off a Dana taking a dirt nap. Little miss Munchkin was the one snooping around her mom's house, not me. She was looking for Dana's will. I never even saw the thing until Margaret dug it up the other day. Tell you what you really want to know who killed her, follow them, and you're sure about this? Well, I I feel she's positive. Respectfully, Roger, i'd like to hear that from my client. You already have. She wants to take her daughter out of her will and put me in it. It's not complicated. I'm sorry. Are you a lawyer? I don't know. Do I look like I have horns growing out of my goddamn skull? Roger? Sorry, I'm just a little on edge lately. Dana has a lot of enemies. She stopped paying her daughter's tuition, her ex husband is basically stalking her, plus she eloped with her best friend. I don't think we need to go into the details. Let's just say it's really scary right now, and God forbid anything happens to me. I want Roger to be taken care of. I will see what I can do good. I'm heading out of town tomorrow, but when I get back next week, I expect this to be handled. I said, I'll see what I can do your I'm well getting paid enough to about tuesday, we'll be expecting those papers. I gotta take this. I should probably go to Dana. Yeah, be careful, Dana, What did you mean by. Be careful. It's two in the morning. You've said it before I left your office, and I can't figure out why you would say something like that. Is Roger nearby? He left last night. I think you're married to an extremely dangerous man. That's no Roger wouldn't He loves me, Dana, I don't think you called to tell me Roger loves you. You call it? It It goes steep down. You know something's wrong. Jesus, What Mike can I do? Hallen? Was it gone for a few days? Good? Go through his stuff, take pictures, videos, document everything. There's no telling what he'll do, and you're gonna need evidence if this goes where I think it's going. Hi, my name is Diana Carson. The date is June PM. I'm in my home and I found this safe. It belongs to my husband. I'm going to try to open it. Okay, it's not his birthday, it's not my birthday. Ship Okay, wait, Chuck, Chuck, yes, holy shit. Please thank you for reaching the offices of Stagner and Current. Please leave your message at the town I think you were right. I know you were right. I opened your safe and I someone's on the other line. Call me when you get this. Jeemes, good you picked up. I wasn't. I wasn't expecting that. There is so much I want to talk to you about it. Come over, come over to the house now. I need you. Of course. I can't tell you how good it is to hear your boys. I have been thinking about Dana. I don't even know where to start. Let me go first. I've made so many mistakes. I thought you were stopping me from having a life, and now I know, Dana, you are my life, sweetie. No, let me finish. I will do whatever it takes to win you back, to win our family back. Sweetie, I know you want that too. Why else would you call me here? This isn't about you, asshole? What are you talking about? You know? Actually it is about you. It's always about you. You treated me like some item on a checklist, our entire marriage, and as soon as you checked it off, you didn't give a ship. And then somebody else comes along and they care about me, what I want and what I need, or at least they pretend to, And it feels so fucking good that I can't see five inches in front of my own face. What is that on your finger. It's a wedding ring. I tried to start over, and somehow I'm even worse off than when I started. And it's all because of you. You're joking, right, You already got remarried, Dane. It's only been six months. Oh oh, you want to see a joke. Come on me. Here look at these guns, bullets, my bank codes. Oh, and there's my Social Security number? Because of you, this is my life. I can't believe you would do this to me. Anybody is that him? Be right there? He is supposed to be out of town. Wait? Does he have this place bucked? Dana? What the hell is going on? His car? Is that in the driveway? Hello? What are you doing with that gun? It's her husband's car. I've been waiting for this day, really, because I had no idea you even existed. Keep mad talking me like that, and you're gonna find out just how real I am. Or you can get the funk out of my house and I might let you leave in one piece. Okay, how about you both leave just right now? Your house? You hear that, Dana? His house? Say I didn't want you? Oh my god, oh my god? Nine one one? What's your emergency? My husband and my ex husband are fighting in my house six twenty late road. They have a gun. I tried to get him to stop, but a man, where are you? I'm in my living room. They're blocking the front door and there's a lot of blood. Okay, I need you to go somewhere safe and lock the door. The police are on their way. Okay, I'm in my room. Block stop working. Ma'am. Wait where you some coming? Hello, James Roger. Mammy, you need to leave the house right now, baby, baby, please, no, no, don't do this, Please don't do this, please, ma'am. Man are you there? Oh, my god, ma'am, ma'am are you there? Hello? Are you there? You've reached the end of the investigation. It's time to decide who you think Dana's killer is. Here are your suspects. Dana's daughter Margaret. Look, I love my mother, but like she wasn't exactly a rocket scientist, especially when it came to men. Danna's ex husband, James, I didn't kill my wife just saying I even have to say that. We were married for twenty five years, happily. Her former best friend Barbara. I see, I see where you're going with this. My best friend has an affair with my boyfriend and I want revenge, so I killed her. Well, let me stop you right there. Or her current husband, Roger, that the woman didn't have a man in her life, and honestly, I felt bad for and I know what you're thinking, But I didn't find Cupidsaro. It found me. We'll have the answer after a word from our sponsor. Yeah, so who killed Dana. Dana's killer was her best friend Barbara. She thought Dana stole Roger from her and wanted revenge. Okay, I see, I see where you're going with this. My best friend has an affair with my boyfriend and I want revenge, so I killed her. Of course, Barbara would say that she was obsessed with me. Did she tell you She used to park her car outside the house and just stare at us for hours. What gave Barbara away was Dana's dying words, maybe baby, please, no, no, don't do this. Because Dana had a nickname for everyone. She never called me Margaret. It was always munchkin. She literally had a nickname for everyone. Can you call me that right now? This is serious. You are my sweetie, to win our family back, sweetie, but We'll take it. I love you, Peaches. The name Dana called the Killer was the same nickname she had for Barbara. I'm serious. She really took care of me. She bought me chocolate flowers. She even made me this playlist and all the songs had her cute little nickname for me in it. Actually, Dana made this playlist for me ever since she is whoa you know, until I listened to baby Baby, Please, no, No, don't do this. This episode was inspired by a true crime that occurred in two thousand and fourteen, when a wealthy divorced woman began dating a man who had a secret criminal past despite warnings from her family that her life was in danger. The two got married and moved in together. Shortly after, the husband tried to extort the woman for money and was killed while attempting to kidnap her daughter. Dana was played by Lisa Fussen, James by Andy Milder, Margaret by Serrie Miller, Roger by Roy Samuelson, Barbara by Nadine Ellis, Shanna by Anne's son, Mistress by Sam Valentine, Nine on one Operator by Angela Quintana, Concierge one by Angelie Kane, Concierge two by Michael Muresma, Concierge three by Piper Gillen, Written by Adam Letterer, directed by Walt Palmer, produced, recorded and mixed by Salt Audio Executive Produced by Corey Search and Walt Palmer. Sound designed by Jasper van Dyke for Salt Audio. Original music and score by Noah Gersh and Jamie Scheffman at Salt Audio Production Coordinator Liz Lamy. Recorded at todd Ao Studios. This episode of Salve was hosted by me Courtney Falsey. Next time on Solve, a college student is killed in cold blood. You're now learning that the body of twenty one year old Rob Holt has been discovered in the backseat of his car. The victim is said to have been found with gunshot wounds to the face and chef, and the verdict is in. Julia Harris has been found guilty of first degree murder in the killing of her ex boyfriend. For two years, I've been locked up, away from my parents, my friends for something I didn't do. I've used all my appeals, I tried hiring new lawyers. Nobody believes me, but I know that these podcasts sometimes they clear people's names right, get them a new trial. Listen, you're my last chance. Here. I swear to you I'm innocent. Tune in next week to find out