SOFREP RadioZeroed In: Former SEAL Team Six Rob O'Neill on Life, America & Beyond with SOFREP's Brandon Webb
Robert J. O’Neill is one of the most highly decorated combat veterans of our time. He served at SEAL Team Two, SEAL Team Four and eight years at the legendary SEAL Team Six. Having taken part in and leading over 400 combat missions, Rob operated in Liberia, The Balkans, The Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean, Ukraine, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Having been decorated 53 times, his awards include two Silver Stars for gallantry in action against the enemy, four Bronze Stars with Valor to denote heroism against the enemy, a Joint Service Commendation Medal with Valor, a Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal with Valor, three Presidential Unit Commendations and three Combat Action ribbons to name a few. Some of Rob’s qualifications include Military Free-Fall Jumpmaster, Tandem Tethered Bundle Master, Naval Special Warfare Scout / Sniper, Breacher, Master Naval Parachutist, Master Training Specialist, Diving Supervisor, Range Officer in Charge for Small Arms, Close Quarters Battle, Breaching, Laser System Safety Officer among many others. Rob took part in the rescue for Operation Red Wings, which extracted the Lone Survivor, Marcus Luttrell, he was the lead jumper for the rescue operation that saved Captain Richard Phillips from Somali pirates and he was a Team Leader for Operation Neptune’s Spear, the mission to kill Osama bin Laden. Rob is co-founder of Special Operators Transition Foundation, specializing in assisting Special Operations Forces veterans with the successful transition from the service into their next great career in corporate America. Rob is the author of the NY Times and London Times Best Selling Memoir THE OPERATOR: Firing the Shots that Killed Osama bin Laden and My Years as a SEAL Team Warrior. Rob has been interviewed on Fox News, CNN, CBS, Newsmax and others.
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It's different, Like America has better infrastructure, better flying culture. But the fact that I created my plane over here in a container twenty foot container, just took the wings off and then put it.
Back together, that's cool.
But now it's here and it's US registered, no one can with me like they I got into one argument with the controllers because I had to install a new radio and the guy forgot to connect the antennas. But it was they tried to like give me ship and I was like, they're like, oh, what's your what's your European license number? I was like, I'm an American pilot, and there's like a fuck it.
That person like that's like the scene and spies like us, it's okay, we're Americans and I'm sudden you're hanging upside down.
Yeah, yeah, it's amazing flying. So I'm in this summer, I'm gonna like road trip all around Europe, Switzerland, Italy, France, so it'll be a good time.
No kidding. How's your how's your how's your language skills? You're speaking anything else?
I mean, living where I live, you really don't need to speak anything but English. But I'm learning Portuguese like a.
Little oh yeah, that's that's a good one. Well Portuguese is gonna take over just because of the m m A. Yeah, that's yeah. Basically that's just a cool language. Portuguese sounds like a warriors language, doesn't it.
Yeah, especially the European Portuguese. It is definitely. I mean I read the history of Portugal on movie here and it is a very violent history. Yeah, there a lot of a lot of that going around, definitely colonizers.
I went down to I gave a speech speech in salth Paolo a couple of months ago in Brazil, and yeah, man, that's just And I've never been to a place where there was such little English being spoken, like zero English, Like like you go to France to try to speak French, I'll just say, look, my English is better than your French. Let's just talk English. But yeah, I went to try to get an iPhone charger in salth Paolo and the woman that was working didn't even understand iPhone, which I thought was universal.
I haven't been to Sal Pauliat, but I heard it's pretty sketch, Like you can't sketchy ship.
Yeah, that's I guess Rio is the place to go in some part South Paalo. I was hosted by a really really great company. Great dude, and he was like, yeah, there's a a lot of murders here, a lot, so don't tell you you don't need to be venturing out of the hotel, which is which is fine with me. I'm at the point in life where I can just sit in my hotel and be fine.
No, I know, honestly, like I'm where was I? I was in Paris. No, I was in Madrid at the fourth season, and one of my friends had given me ship and I was like, look, man, I fucking slept in caves in Afghanistan. Like I don't fourth season, I'm all about it, man, give me.
I'm fine.
Yeah, give me a spot. Oh I'm good to go.
Yeah, yeah, I'll do. I'll get a pedicure. I don't care. This is I'm not sleeping with pitt vipers in a damn hole. I dug.
So, dude. I think the last time I saw you was at my friend John Bush's rooftop right before COVID in New York.
That is true that I thought we had a lot of a good spring and summer coming up in New York and then that hit. It's like, what the hell was that?
Yeah, I mean that pushed me out out of the city for sure.
Well we did too, we moved to Tennessee. So that was Tennessee was a different animal than New York because in New York, I was they completely lost their shit. But in Tennessee everyone's like, what does this even mean? And they decided it's like, well, if you go golfing, just don't touch the same pin. Okay, that'll stop GOVID. I don't know what that means.
I mean, not to go on a COVID tangent. But I was shocked at just how the level of stupidity that existed, because I had my home in Puerto Rico and they're like, oh, you can't go surfing, Like dude, I can't like paddle out in the ocean and then surf because like, what's that going to do like spread COVID in the marine life?
Like it was just so no, it's oh, it's ridiculous too. And then you, I mean, look at how people were tell just dying to tell on their neighbors. People were dying to yell each other about mass I mean, I remember in the city they literally had cops going around on Saturdays knocking on houses asking for Jews. I don't know if they know their history, but that's happened a lot before and it never ended well. And NYPD was doing it's like, why are you well, I don't know. The mayor told is because the governor said, it's like, look at what you're doing, man, this people lost their minds. And then the passport to get in, like you don't need an ID to vote, but you can't go to a restaurant unless you got the JAB And it's like, what the hell is going on here? Yeah?
And then people like even I know very smart people in New York like given some friends, but they we don't just we disagree, uh politically quite to the extreme. But and people wonder why Trump got elected right like and and everything he's doing now dismantling I think it's great, Like I'm like, good, no, it is.
Great too well, I mean and too just again at the level of stupidity, like there are people that want Elon Must to fail and Tesla to fail because all he's doing is showing the corruption and the people like this this the politicians have been stealing from you all this time. He's showing you what it is in your chairing against him.
It's just a Costio's comments for great. She's like, Oh, he's not even an engineer, and he's just a guy that like watches the rocket get caught by the catcher, you know. And I'm like, how stupid can you be? Like this guy literally single handedly save the US space program, right, among a lot of other things.
The guys, the fucking one.
Of the richest guys in the world donating his time for free. He's not doing it to make make more money, right, And it's just like ridiculous.
But yeah, it's well, I mean, he rescued the people, the astronauts from the ISS and doesn't even get coverage Like Joe Biden could have rescued him a long time because Elon Musk offered, but he wouldn't for political reasons. That's what the swamp does. They don't give a shit about people. They care about their personal power, and it's just it's almost frustrating to watch people, uh just fall in line like even like a rage against the machine. Hey, why are you cheering for the machine? Guys?
I thought, Oh, I know, that's crazy, that's crazy, But.
It doesn't make it doesn't make sense to me. I'm not gonna have an aneurysm trying to figure it out. But it's just just common sense is in common It's to a point, like even cancel culture. I've been canceled before for telling the truth. It's like, you you can't tell the truth because you might offend stupid people.
Yeah, I know, it's it's something I actually I was just prepping for the interview. And even the cancel culture. Like I would say that the conservatives in the US really complain about the cancel culture, but they can be just as bad. Like even Yah, you know, you and I have talked about that. Just the way that the community eats their own and like the latest with with Tim Kennedy and I called Tim. I was like, hey, man, like I got your back, dude. It's just like ultimately, I mean personally, I think Tim's a good guy, is good stuff. And just the fact that people just like trying to look at any little thing to like tear each other down. It's just a shame, you know. And it's the same thing like rising tide lifts all ships. I don't know what to call the drainage, but it's like you take everybody down, you know.
That's it too. Just cheering for someone's failure doesn't make sense to me. It's like Governor Tim Wall's cheering for Tesla stock going down, which I bought a ton of today because that's not going anywhere anywhere but up. But yeah, just the negativity and the uh. I remember my first day at Red Squadrons at Seal Team six, the commanding officer said, when we retire, which will happen if we all work together, we could all be millionaires. But it's never going to happen. And it didn't make sense to me. He just kind of knew. Is like, for some weird reason, a lot of these veterans do not want to work together. And that I mean, man, imagine if we took all of us and just like did something like if we decided to make the best windows for houses, we would make the best windows for houses as a team. But for some damn reasons, like well I don't like the way he built the windows, so fuck that guy. It's like what are you talking about?
Yeah, I mean I've I've written about a bunch and I and I thought about like how to fix it, and I mean, just speaking on the seal side, I think the only way to really make the situation better is you need a official alumni. Not not this bullshit seal reunion which is basically just a drinking contest. That an official alumni. You know, guys that serve, they volunteer to be president or whatever. And it's that bridge between the active duty community and the guys outside because I mean, honestly, like you and I both submitted our books through the duty review process and you know, but we probably could have published, you know, went it went down the other route too and published it and maybe we get it recalled. Maybe not. But but if you have this like professional alumni association, they can at least communicate to the guys in the outside and say, hey, guys, we'd really like it if if you're going to write a book, just make sure you submit it. We really don't want you talking about this stuff. It creates the kind of communication bridge and then somebody to be an adult in the room. It's it's like I watched this drive to survive Formula one on Netflix, and you see a lot of the similarities between the teams and the team managers for F one because everyone shit talking each other, but there's limits because the F one board will be like, hey, guys, enough, you know, you got to like take a time out. And I just feel like having that official association would go a long way to making sure that we just play nicer together on the outside, because I like seeing guys like you, Jocko whoever doing well. You know, it's like, yeah, I helped Mike Ritlin get his book deal direct with Saint Marn's pros. I'm extremely happy to help guys like that, and it should be the way.
There should be something. I mean, even guys who have been out who can assist guys with stuff like that, with the process, because it's important, I think, for people to know their history. I personally was really happy that George Washington brought a biographer with them when he crossed the Delaware to fight the Hesians. Like that, that's good to know the history, and guys should tell their history as long as has done the right way, as long as you're not you know, have a group to help people do that and then tell the story because even with like seal training, like even dudes that quit will have a unique story someone will be interested in and like everything from from the transition process to little things like here's the shoes you wear with a suit, spit the goddamn dip out when you're doing the interview. Just helping each other like that. But I mean that makes sense to it with the community of and if there's an issue instead of blasting each other, just talk about it in a room and get over it, you know that then we could all of us, every branch could do that. But I mean, especially in the in the seal teams. Now, I don't. I don't want it to be a spot where the word brotherhood makes her think yeah, maybe maybe not. I'm not digging that. When when if we if seriously we move forward together even to like how hard is it when someone says, hey, you know this guy, Yeah, what do you think of stud that's not hard to say?
Yeah, yeah, I mean just and all. I remember Smitty Rob Smith, the rusco founder, was saying he was at war Com and he was like he was telling me how ridiculous it was. There was like a PowerPoint slide and they're briefing on the decay of the seal culture, and it was like Marcus the Trell, myself, maybe you Chris. It was like everybody off on this PowerPoint side and it's like, dude, not once did anyone for morecom reach out to me? Ever and not saying and for sure. It's like guys, like you're worrying about us, like you got bigger problems.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean there are problems in there they could be handling instead of like, yeah, I mean I I like to think I did everything the right way. I joined the Navy through the front door, I left through the front door, and did everything right and just told the truth. It's like, what's the big deal?
And now?
I mean now too that I've even heard some senior officers that were upset about some books being written. They're saying, well, now is the time for people to tell the story. And that's true for history's sake, but also think about the recruiting. There's a lot of really good young men out there that are thinking about being a seal. What are they going to think when they get on social media and people just bashed each other. Why would I want to be a part of that.
No, it's bad. It's bad. The social media is really bad.
Because yeah, it's a it's the point now to that. Part of my advice for success is don't check social media at least until after lunch. Like the first thing you do is turn on X in the morning, You're not gonna have a great day. However, if you do a little meditation, go to the gym, you will be better. Then when you have the positive you know, pheromones going, then you can check social media and take it with a grain of salt.
Maybe yeah, exactly. I want to definitely hear about the new business, but you want to just like catch me up, like what are you up to? Like from the last time we saw saw each other in New York.
Yeah, we just uh, you know. Obviously with COVID it changed everything up. But I was about that time, right before COVID, I was given about two hundred and fifty speeches a year, which turned was like my that's it would it turned from this could be fun to my income. Uh, And it's just it was one of those like the process to get to the airport, to go through security, to get to an event, to you know, do the everything with the av check to the meet and greet, to the photo line.
There's maybe it's three or four a year, with three or four and it's an inc convenience for me. I like to do it.
It's fun because well, I got to talk to like I was at the point I was talking like personally at about ten thousand people a week. But so I got to get the pulse of the country, like instead of believing a bullshit poll, I got to talk to a lot of people. And I even learned in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen that I knew that Trump was going to win before the election because I was I would ask people. I wouldn't ask him, who are you voting for? I would say who's your neighbor voting for? And it's like, there's gonna be a landslide. Donald Trump's gonna win this. So that was cool. But now I'm you know, getting older, just had a new kid. My daughter's one, so I've got three in college and a one year old, which is just awesome. But I mean as opposed to my first kids, where I'm you know, being a seal with training and war, I'm out of the I'm away from home three hundred twenty days a year. But now I get to see my daughter and it's like fun. I enjoy it. I'm older, so it's like I'm the old dad that goes to the park, but I get to enjoy it. But I still have to pay the bills, so I'm trying to figure it. I'm trying to figure out a way to do a little work from home. So it's been exciting. It's fun. It's busier. Speaking pays well, but you got to travel. But other stuff's a blast. So I'm doing the apparel business, which is a blast. The sign books have been successful because I don't use an auto pen like a president sometimes does, and I don't do I don't do the platelets because that's you know, you've seen him, just sign the platelets and stick them. I take orders with inscriptions that people want, and then I sign it personally, so you know, it takes a little longer to get a book, but I'm signing it and some people are funny, man. We have we have interactions some of these books. My my favorite one to this day was some dude bought a one of my books for his buddy's birthday and he had me sign something like dear Jeff, you kill it selling mattresses like I killed Bin Lad and love Rob O'Neil, Like it's funny shit like that. It's an honor too, Like I get it. I get stuff from from proud fathers that want to buy their marines a book, and so I always signed marines in red, put us a good cempify and they're good stuff. But wait, occasional I'll get some funny ship that dudes are just like they're ribbing their friends and I'm just like honored to be a part of it. So the book sales are fun. I just got into the cannabis industry, which is really exciting. It's in right now in New York. We're trying to get into Florida. Obviously, get down to New Jersey took a if you can imagine with the New York government, get about two years to get a license, which is fun.
But you guys got it. New York is a good market man because.
Yeah, and.
I'm gonna say I'm personally so, I just got stem cell treatments in Columbia. Yes, but I'm using I was using edible t C CBD for years to deal with the pain management.
So it deals. It deals with the pain really well, and it deals with other other issues mine personally with a little bit of PTSD or anxiety. It really helps because I've noticed too drinking didn't help. And since I've been in cannabis, like I've never smoked a joint and then tried to start a bar fight just doesn't happen. And it does. It does get rid of a lot of the noise. And and with PTSD, a lot of a lot of people have it. You don't need to be a combat that to have anxiety or PTSD. So I've, as you know, getting away from whiskey and trying psychedelics and Mexico and stuff like that. It's a shame we have to go to Mexico when it works. But then with cannabis, I just I wanted to get into that and it's a it's been a fun I'm learning a lot about it, different strains and stuff like that. So that's it's fun. I get to meet the cannabis community and they're just a trip man talk about just fun people. So the cannabis is going well, and then the podcast is still going. I gotta get you on my podcast at some point too.
The operator yeah, man, anytime. So what's the what's the name of the brand, And there.
It's Operator Canna, So it's operator Cannaco dot Com. I'm gonna make sure of this. Let's seah operator Canna dot Com ce A N N A. And when you get on a Operator Canna dot com, you're gonna see the strains. We have Indica, sat Via, and a hybrid. So the Indica is like a mellow, it's like chills you out a little bit. It's more for a like I use that at night. And then the the sat the Sativa is it's an energetic strain, and then the hybrid is is a it's a combination of the two. But they're really good stuff. We're growing really really good strains. And we actually have we have these packages that come with five pre rolls. So like if you our first package says front toward enemy, it's kind of cool. And then the other one there's a there's an army manual that it's an old school like World War two teaching basically how to shoot like a saving private Ryan Bazuka. So but and and all it says on it is fire like this, So but I did that, And it's just it's a dude instead of a bazuka. He's just holding a really big joint and those are cool man, seriously, like instead of and again, look, anything in moderation is fine. I've just proven to myself that sometimes the booze doesn't work, I had switch it up.
And no, I mean, I think anyone that's done cannabis knows that. I think it's it's a lot, a lot more easy going than than whiskey. But what are you guys doing edibles too?
Is it just not just yet? We're gonna we'll get into it. We're doing right now just flower uh and UH and we're doing the pre rolls. But you know, we just we've only been operational for a couple of weeks now, but it's selling really well. People love it. I love it uh and I enjoyed like I've been going to UH stores around uh uh Saaten Island, upper west side of Midtown. I'll be going out to Long Island. So we're working hopefully up in in Westchester County and stuff like that. And I've been down to some spots in in Florida too, Hopefully gonna get into that market.
I hope you got to get the edibles, because not for me. Every time I come back to the US, I just stock up on edibles and fly them over there.
Yeah, edibles are edibles. They're nice. You gotta you gotta make sure you know before before you uh you know, take one, take half of one, and give yourself a few hours to see how it works.
Yeah, for sure. No, that's great, man. So so you've got the cannabis going and the speaking and any anything else in the mix.
Yeah, I mean we're doing the apparel business. And then I'm having a blast on the on the Operator podcast. Uh, I haven't had guess in a while because I've been moving. I'm still moving into this studio. So it's just you know, I but it it gives an opportunity because just to talk about current stuff, for past stuff, for fun stories, and I'm able to yell at the camera. And then I look at at the Operator podcast on Instagram and I actually read the comments there. I won't I won't read them on AX, I'll read them on Instagram. And then if but if I say something that's out of turn or out of line and I wasn't one hundred percent correct and someone corrects me, I'll actually look it up and if I'm this is weird. If I'm wrong, I admit it. Not a lot of people do that. So I'm just you know, I'm trying to make that work. And then and then uh yeah, I mean I'll travel stuff, but I'm I'm really just enjoying it now that you know, second day of spring and and for yeah, second day spring. So just looking forward to the spring summer and you know, raising the kid and hopefully teaching her how to shoot a basketball or you know, she might just get into figure skating and princesses, who knows, but whatever she wants.
Now, my daughter's about to graduate from university in London for industrial design.
But wow, that's awesome. Yeah, graduating her.
Thanks. Her brother graduated last year from Saint Andrews. I actually sent Hunter, the older brother, because of the wacky DEI stuff in college because this kid, this kid graduated four point three gpa, was a nationally ranked debate champion. Oh wow, all American and he couldn't get into Stanford. And like the college counselor is like, yeah, he's he's white and you you have too much income, so he's not going to get into any of these ivy schools that he wants. So I just said, you know what, all right, just go to the UK. So we sent him to Saint Andrews in Scotland.
So do you guys not as bad in the UK? No, not at all, I thought. I still didn't know.
I mean, you have you have, it's not compared to how bonkers the US is not even close.
So I didn't know that.
Yeah, no, it was way away. But I still believe in the meritocracy over here. But he's yeah, my old yeah, go figure. But yeah, he's got a software company now he's doing really well. But yeah, I can't imagine because I'm still single. I'm like, and I inevitably the problem I have is these girls want a baby, and I'm like, you and I don't both know. Like, it's a lot of responsibility and a lot of fucking work.
Yeah, it's it's funny with my uh, with my older daughters, my my my new daughter. It's like, well that was easy. Let's just do that whole thing again.
And I'm done. If my youngest son goes so he goes to uh University of Oregon next year, and I'm done. Man, I paid for all the college, all the child support, So I'm like out of the woods. I don't know if I'm right.
Yeah, I had a little child support to pay too, and now I'm looking forward to nothing but paying for weddings.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's fun though It's like, I mean, it is a lot of work, but boy, it's it just there's I mean, there's nothing else like it. So that's and Oregon. What's that going to be like because they're a little uh out there. This is Eugene, Oregon, isn't it the Yeah, yeah.
I mean it's that my ex moved out there with their husband. He's a super nice guy. And I mean I feel like, I mean, Portland has its issues, but they're really trying to like rewind a lot of this like this failed yeah, the failed cultural experiment. That's that took what.
An amazing city Portland used to be. Hopefully it gets back. We did, ah, I actually led a block of training up there for urban terrain. We brought everyone like g F one sixty, the entire squadron, oh man, and it was I mean just like I remember going to Wineharves and Voodoo Donut and walking around Portland and like the beer was awesome, the food was incredible that people were great. There's I mean, if you've ever been to a Trailblazers game, I think they've sold out every game since they won it in like nineteen seventy seven. Just rip city, baby, and then obviously let the liberal communists come in and just destroy everything like locus like they do everywhere.
Oh it was a shame because I remember that that exercise because my friend Bill owns the stargates or farms, and he had a restaurant right downtown in the Pearl District. He's texted me He's like, dude, I got like little birds like flying up skyscrapers vertically. He's like, this is crazy, man, like TF one sixty.
Yeah. Yeah, we were doing those pilots too. I mean, obviously the best in the world, but doing like lip landings on skyscrapers just that it's just I don't care who you are, I don't care how many times you've done it. Every time you're on the edge of a little bird flying around the city. It's like, chicks dig this, this is cool. I love this fun there. Yeah, flat and of course too, like we had the best FTX. We had an FTX planned at the Capitol where we were actually going to do a hay ho in there. We actually surveyed ops on right in front. We were gonna do a hostage rescue for with the The governor was going to be the hostage. We're gonna go get up and go through a secret passage and it's gonna be awesome. We had it all set up and then the uh like the local government decided that black helicopters were They're like, yeah, well you're just invade. This is you invading Portland. It's like, we're the US military. We're not invading you. We're come on, this is cool.
That's crazy. But I actually owned. I owned when my kids were younger, I would I bought a condo in the Pearl District downtown Portland, amazing loft right near the ri I, and then oh yeah, I ended up selling it right as COVID hit. I have this like squatter Airbnb tenant. I'm like, hey man, this place is for sale. You gotta get out. But yeah, I seen the degradation of the Pearl District, like with my own eyes over a few years. They have a drug encampment. They just cordoned off this parking lot like right in the center of the Pearl District with these guys are shooting up and they have like portable showers and bathrooms, and it just went crazy. My daughter's car got broken into. I was like shocked, man. But obviously, yeah, not not good for the home value or the numberho aesthetic at all.
And that never works too. I don't know why they keep re electing the same people that I used to give speeches a lot in San Francisco because a lot of companies wanted to have conventions there, because that's one of them. Used to be one of the most beautiful cities in the world. San Francisco manage gorgeous. Now I was there maybe a year ago, and it's just like you get a nice view off the bridge you go into the city. Bro, it's it's just bad. Like I mean, there's there's something off putting about stepping in human shit for no reasons there all.
Over the place. Yeah, even you know, Venice had its. You know, I would say it's charm for years because it had you know that that's street culture. But it's gotten out of control, like Santa Monic events. It's an Yeah.
I was down at the pier like maybe a year and a half ago.
Yeah, it's a shame. And I mean politically, I think I don't know if you have any opinions, but I I think honestly that if you want to like fix the problem, I mean, I think it's obvious for me anyway. Now I live in in the Portugal two years. The healthcare is better, the food is better. America is an amazing country, but we have the education, Like kids shouldn't graduate high school with good grades and have to pay four hundred thousand dollars in student loans to get a decent education. If your kid gets cancer and you don't have money to pay for the best treatment, America is rich enough to like give the kid the best treatment on the planet. Just things like this, and then you get these you know, this political system that delivers, you know, really bad choices every four years. But term limits, like you get the average average age of the House and Senate it's like close to seven. Now, it's like God's waiting room.
Essentially, we have people dying in office, we have people who are living in retirement homes and their staffers are going to vote for them. It's it's it's so out of line. Term limits obviously, I mean, that's the that's the first thing that needs to happen, and then there's also there needs to be that hope. Hopefully. Pete Heigsath Secretary Hegseth puts in that where if you when you leave as the military, you can't work for a contractor for at least seven years, should be ten. But just the good old boy network in that swamp and decisions.
It's your point, right, these four stars, I mean it should be anybody, right, because that's what they get. They get them and they just suck the content. And it's the contracts don't go to the best vendor, they go to the good old boy network.
And that's that's I mean, that's the reason that Afghanistan, Vietnam I racked. That's the reason we leave everything behind and they'll say, well, just more expensive to bring it home, like they give a shit about how much it costs. No, they leave it there so that they're friends that are building tanks, can build more tanks. That's it everyone's getting. I mean, like we basically we invaded Iraq because George Bush didn't like what Saddam Hussein tried to do to his dad. But Dick Cheney can get really rich because Halliburton will be everywhere. And that's exactly what happened. It's like what I mean, and you see it all the time. That's why the right now, the way that I mean, Senator Kennedy from Louisiana said at best right now, he said, you start trimming the fat, and the pigs are going to squeal. That's what they're doing because big time. None of the money that the taxpayers are paying is going to anywhere good except for the pockets of people based on shell companies for how can they uplift voting awareness in Liberia? And the last time I was in Liberia was two thousand and three. I didn't see a lot of voting booths. The only thing I saw was civil war and cannibalism. Where's that money going.
In the state department. We did a big article on that to state before Trump got elected. But yeah, it was like the state departments that I think twenty thousand dollars hosting a tranny show in El Salvador to promote American America is great abroad, like insane. You know, my tax peremoney going.
They had so many transgender plays around the world they were paying for whatever. And I remember my initial thought was, you know, I definitely want to see that. I want to watch it. I just don't want the taxpayer paying for it. That I mean, I guarantee that's a great play. I want to go stop give me the bill though, Yeah, exactly.
But I think the term limits vote. How about we vote by phone like biometrics. We can bank on here have our most sensitive information, but we cannot. We're still filling in bubbles with a with a pen.
Yeah, we get the winner. We get the winner of American Idol within a few hours and there's millions of votes. Yeah, we can't. We had to go no idea. I voted in New York for the first time this last election. There was a dude out front, no kidding, screaming he worked there, a government ployee screaming, no ID, no ID, do not pull out ID. It's like, what are you doing? And even if you like, even if you ask people, because they say, well, people from underprivileged communities don't get ID. That's the most racist ship you can say. Ask anybody out there, hey, are you smarter to get an idea or use the internet? They'd punch in the face. Well, the politicians are saying that that you're too stupid, and that's what they do, and they and they, and yet a lot of people still vote Democrats. Don't know why. Yeah, And for the record too, I'm not a Republican. I'm a registered independent.
I am to My last crazy idea is I think the presidential term should be a flat term, either six or eight years, one and done, because then it's like, you get what Trump's doing now, he doesn't give a ship about the polls. He's like, I'm just gonna do what I think is is right for the country, regardless of you.
Know, totally got to figure too. I mean, look at, uh, what what does a president in a in a term start doing? As soon as the midterms are coming up, they start it's all running again. Yeah, give him a bit one big long term and that's it. You're good, you're done, and that that's and then and then with the Congress, uh to your term might be too short because they get, they get they swear in, then they start campaigning again.
Yeah. No, I didn't they the term limit, especially for the president, because any if it's so short, such a short cycle, to your point, especially if it's if it's a second term president really after two years or they become a lame duck. And and then guys like Putiner's using ping that is outweight outweaited. It's like, yeah, we do what ever he wants, wait till that guy, that guy's out of there.
Yeah, but yeah, we have They've been around forever. They're not changing. And yeah, and and then just with our political system, the way that a lot of politicians both sides use the stuff like social media like that a lot of a lot of youth in this country doesn't realize that the algorithm the TikTok is using. The Chinese doesn't even let their own youth see it. And we're pretty much the only country that makes our kids hate themselves.
And it's all, yeah, the TikTok thing. I'm shocked because we for a long time, we just the guys coming to me like, hey, we need softwarep on TikTok, and like, guys, this can't last because they're collecting data on the US kids like they've got on like outlaw, and it just keeps going like all right, maybe we should have got on TikTok.
I was thinking about that too, because I mean, I've got millions of views on TikTok. I don't have an account for a number of reasons, but I mean one of them is just general principle. Also too, I don't want to give my my infot play. And I'd be a hypocrite if I would tell people don't be on TikTok, and then I'm on TikTok. But and I mean, you got I mean, it is funny to watch, but it's on purpose where you get You start getting roped into these funny videos. All of a sudden you get one about how America is the most racist country in the history of racism. And it's just and people are they're buying it. It's just a shame that entertainment is. We're so secluded that we haven't really most people haven't really been to war. We don't realize just because we're not at war with something doesn't mean they're not at war with us. And this is all it's all. I mean everything from go to the campus of NYU or Columbia. Look at how many spies are there from China.
I mean you can see the propaganda and the New York subway system like this, or SVR propaganda. But yeah, no, and you I mean, look, you just have to look at history to understand that there's a reason the governments have always had a tight grip, especially the communist or authoritarian governments that always have a tight grip on the media, because if you control the communication and the messaging, you control the population. And that's TikTok man. And it's like targeting the youth of America. And people just have no idea. But you wonder why this country is like in such a tail spin. You know, it's like an America needs to get its shit together.
What do you think is you have more experience in the media than I do. And I've you know, I've been on pretty much every station. I've dealt with producers and on air talent, and they're all I've had other than NPR. I've had really good experiences everywhere, and the producers are always great. The on air talent is really smart and very professional. But there are people on certain networks that are blatantly lying, And I want to know why they know what they're saying is bullshit? What is their take? What are they getting out of lying? The power?
Well they here, there's all sorts of dynamics of play what I've seen because I've done and then lived in New York City. So there are certain on air personalities that take more of an interest in the in their monologue. And there's certain like big names. I don't want to throw anyone under the bus, but I don't see I'm not going to get invited back too. There are these big names that they don't care. They let some twenty four year twenty three, twenty four year old intern write their monologue. They have no idea because I've been on some of these big shows and I've I've asked questions back and forth, and it's like a I'm looking at the host and it's like a dog staring at a ceiling fan looking back at me, and I'm like, Okay, this guy has no idea about this topic. And and it's just they're just there sitting in the seat. They come in, they put on the steam suit, they get in the seat, and they just read the monologue that's written for them by their team, and then they're out. And they don't they don't fact check. They don't, not all of them. But but a lot of this happens, and.
And what they're doing too that people don't realize is they they got an earpiece and that same producer that wrote the monologues in their ear and they're the one fact checking person. Nah, I mean depends on what they want the facts to be. But they'll just rip it to them and they'll just repeat. It's you know, at a lot of that happens and just no.
It's crazy. And and I think that the American media, I it's tough because like how do you police it? Because I do believe in free speech, But the media needs to understand they can do a lot of damage. Like even you know, it's like okay, now they're back on the hate Trump thing. Yeah, but they're they need to realize, like they they they can do a lot of damage and they sway public opinion. Or the first time Trump got elected, they this whole Russia Gate thing, which is complete bullshit, like, look, we don't have to be Russia's best friend, but we have a lot in common and there's no reason to make an enemy out of Russia.
And they both they can't agree with anything. The Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump had an hour or so conversation a couple of days ago, and blah blah blah, yeah, there was nice cities because Trump knows just calling him a tyrant's not going to help. You don't want to insult them, butter them up a little bit. But if you can sift through the bullshit, the realization of Russia and the United States both agree that Iran should never get a nuclear weapon. That enough. That's enough right there for you would think some of the Democrats across the island and say, yeah, I agree with that, but no, I mean, look at look at Chuck Schumer, who is one of the worst of the worst. He he votes for a bill that that Donald Trump liked. They're coming after him now too, and the fangs are just out. They're just coming. I mean, they're eating their own. They don't care. And there's no leadership there in the Democrat Party either. And it's almost depressing as an American to realize that, you know, like, well, the years of the Kennedy Democrats are gone, but just to just to see them just implode with there's no like, yeah, we need a fresh face like Bernie Sanders, so he should go on tour with AOC who plans like you know, Jenny from the block who went to I think high school scars in Scarsdale, not the Bronx, but whatever. It's just it's like I'd always hoped that, again, I'm an independent, but I'd always hope that combat vets who get into office both sides of the aisle could at least get together if you get imagine if you had like a group of combat veterans Democrats Republicans walking down the hallways in DC and whipping up votes, they could get more of a following than just their stupid party leadership that will primary you if you say anything. You get a good, solid group like that, it could do something. But there's no leader, especially on the left, there's just no leadership. No one's gonna step up. Everyone's hate Trump, I hate Elon Musk, and let's go firebomb Tesla trucks Like, okay, you're doing that.
It's a disaster, man. It's just like this cultural decay, which makes me sad because I love America and I thought a lot about it, like, hey, here's how you fix it. But the only way to fix it, I think if you look at history, these kind of changes only come about one way. It's through some type of revolution, either non violent or violent. And that and that's I mean, you saw a little bit of that bubble up during the January sixth uh issues Trump, But people are fucking fed up, man. And and like I was, I had a ex girlfriend in Zurich. I was living in Zurich for six months, and I was the first time in my life I was like, wow, I can see the tax money at work, Like this place, literally the town of Zurich, that was like a well oiled Swiss clock. I'm like, I would pay the tax I would pay that people have great healthcare, great education, you know everything. Yeah, no, we could and we should. And it's just a shame because you know, in that situation, I would gladly pay my fair share of taxes.
No kidding, no kidding, I've said too, because you know, I didn't know what my f our share was until I got out of the navy. Uh. And it's you pay a lot. But like even you know, And it's not just I love when people they'll ask me to like, so, how much you are getting back? I'm like getting back, yeah, checks every quarter man. But I just I'm to a point seriously where I wish I could just go to Harlem and find a single parent family and say I'm gonna buy your apartment now and just buy it. That would make me feel better instead of just shitting it to some retard in DC that's gonna wipe his ass with it and then send it to you to figure out. Figure out what happens when you cut a rat's dick off. Yeah, perfect, let's figure that out.
That's funny, man. Yeah, I hope. I hope America gets it together. I really do.
But I well, I mean, we're to a point where we don't have a choice. And even though it gets uh, it gets sugarcoated, especially a lot of these college kids bitching about the student loans. You know, what's gonna happen to the dollar if we hit a fifty trillion dollar deficit. It's a lot worse than your stupid student loans for getting a gender studies degree.
Yeah, but let's uh, I mean, I hope it happens. But yeah, it's I've thought along and hard about it, and I'm like, Okay, it's gonna have to be some type of revolution because those in power, they're not going to change it. There's just no incentive to change.
You know, no, And I don't want to obviously, don't want to see that either. But like you said, even even with January sixth, and there's a lot of shit that was going behind it to rile them up, a lot of a lot of FBI tactics and whatnot, and piles of bricks that happen to be laying around and pipe bombs that are being set up by whatever. And then you have like Minneapolis getting destroyed by paid activists communists Antifa, even though that's not there's not real Americans. Those are people getting paid by communists to destroy some event. I mean, we're seeing violence. We're seeing it now, and I don't want it that way, but this is unfortunately how violence starts. And it's just I mean, open borders, and you know, it's just frustrating some of the jokes I have though some of my liberal friends in the city when they say, well, what you know, because I always say, it's like, yeah, well, you can't even tell time on o'clock. I guarantee you can't start a fire if something happens that the EMP hits and we have nothing that they said, I had a liberal frank, but what are you gonna do? I said, well, I'm gonna eat you first. Like I could lift of you.
Exactly.
I have guns, you don't. I don't know how hard that is.
Understand, Yeah, exactly. Well, I want to get your opinion on the Ukraine War, like I have my own opinions, But what do you think the conclusion is there with Trump, Putin and Zelenski.
Well, yeah, Ukraine has been I was. I went to Ukraine the first time in nineteen ninety eight and I got to work with They were actually former Russian spetsnot skies, Ukrainian now and actually that's the first time I heard about Afghanistan. They were telling me about cutting throats with this knife and I'm I remember looking at them as a young seal first PLATWO and I'm like, damn, man, I'm glad I'm never going to see Afghanistan. That place sounds horrible, But I was working with a very very corrupt government, which I'm here to tell you, if you are working with the corrupt government, it is fucking awesome. It is awesome being able to go anywhere, do anything, get everything for free. I was single at the time, needless to say. It was fun. But it's corrupt and it's mony money laundering and whatnot. Too and then but if you read a little history, the agreement originally in the early nineties was as long as NATO doesn't keep pushing East, we won't have a problem. And we just kept pushing East. And you know, I remember I was in a Lithuania in two thousand, two thousand and one, and they wanted to be a NATO country, sort of Latvia and Estonia. And then we're just pushing towards Russia. So something's gonna happen. We saw it in Georgia, we saw in Ukraine. Long story short, the United States politicians have been laundering so much money in Ukraine that they don't want to get busted. They certainly don't want to turn off the money money spigot. So that's why they're fighting so hard. That's why Democrats are waving Ukrainian flags on the floor of the House, which is insulting as shit for anyone who's ever fought for this country. They're fighting for it because they don't want to they don't want to get busted. They wanted to keep the money coming. The shame of it is a lot of innus, A lot of innocent people are dying for obviously war.
Like world War two. Yeah, statistics on the couch.
They got they're doing World War one trench warfare, except now they get they're peppered with suicide drones. I'm so happy I don't have to do that. Imagine that ship. So they're dying. There's people getting pulled off the street into vans, like a fucking scene from old school. Now you're going to the trenches. Uh. And and I hate to tell you this. Ukraine is not going to win this. They can't. They're going to have to because Eastern Ukraine is you got your native Russian speakers there. Uh. I don't want to say what's right and wrong, but if you lose a war, which Ukraine is losing, even though we're backing basically NATO's fighting, Uh, you don't get everything you want in negotiation. And unfortunately Zelensky is not a serious person. So Trump and Putin are negotiating. We've agreed on Iran. China's very interested. There's gonna have to be. They're looking for a ceasefire. What they need is a permanent piece. I think it's doable. I mean, Vladimir Putin's by no means a good person, who's a complete fucking psychic path. I'm not defending him, but he's been doing it for a long time. Former KGB, you got to put up with a little bit of the buttering up. There will be a difficult conversation. He does know that. Donald Trump serious. I think it's I think it's winding down. I hope. I mean, the last thing we want is anyone from any country launching a nuke, because I don't think people realize when nuke gets launches, the reaction will be a nuclear arm again. And if you don't, if you don't know what nuclear winter is, don't even bother looking it up because you'll just depress yourself. You're not going to survive if we get there, unless you come to my house when we eat my neighbors.
Yeah, no, I think, yeah, I think it ends this year. I think they're going to have to give up that Eastern territory.
They have to. They're going to and uh and.
Look, and I think to your point on the NATO encroachment, like there were there were agreements made in lines in the Sandron and the US just kept in the EU just kept pushing, pushing, pushing, And I do see the like Putin's perspective, and I get what he went and the timing and why he went in because he knew Biden was going to be a weak president and there was going to be nothing done about it. And I do think he underestimated how hard it was going to be. And then they had the defense tech issues, like the Russian defense tech is terrible. Yeah, their new radios relied on cell towers, and they forgot that when they went in and destroyed all the cell tower.
Yeah, that's that's something you That's that's a poor logistical planning right there. You might want to double check a math on that one. Yeah. I mean, I hope it winds down to it again. I mean both sides. I actually feel bad for the North Korean soldiers that are getting smoked over there too, because those those brainwash fools don't even know where they're going. They didn't know they were in Ukraine. They didn't know what it is, and you can just tell they don't know. They don't have a clue what they're doing.
They the ones that were captured, they actually said they were getting sent to fight to South Korean.
Yeah, well, I mean they these are people that that think Kim John unplayed one round of golf. He shot eighteen holes in one and he has no butt because he doesn't need a poop because he works so hard he use up all his energy. Like they don't know anything. They there are no there are no wild animals, birds or leaves in North Korea because there's no food. People eat them like these and and it's still you'll see notes from these guys that died fighting saying what an honor was to die for? For Kim Jong on, it's like this, this is what extreme communism, actual fascism until talitarism looks like it's not. It's not someone driving a Tesla truck. You have it a lot better than you think. But again it's proof to Kim Jong Ladimir Putin don't give a shit about human life. They want the power. Donald Trump's different. He cares about people. He wants to end it. Then he got the left. They want endless wars like down is up ups down right now?
Yeah, no, it's crazy. It really is crazy. Like they can't put the ideology aside, just do it's right. And that's one thing I actually really agree on Trump as this foreign policy. It's like he's like, guys, like we've been doing making a big mess for many years. Time to stop and clean up her own backyard.
Well, and you would think that, I mean, isn't it crazy that we're a spot where you would think everybody, and I mean everybody would want no war. I thought that would be a common thing. How about no more war? Boy? Some of these people just love war. You got the nine the U Jan sixth Commission, you got a couple of Republicans over their warhawks. Baby love, love the war, love the money. The Cheney family got really rich, like I mentioned earlier, a lot of money, and they just don't want to shut it off. And it's it's just crazy what we could do with the Like we don't even need an income tax, like the tariffs work. It takes a minute, which unfortunately with this generation they want instant gratification. You don't want to It's like they don't want the cold plunge where this is gonna suck for fifteen minutes, but man, in twenty minutes, I'm gonna feel amazing. It's like I want it now, and that's it's unfortunate, that's what it is. You gotta be realistic, You got to be smart about being stupid. Maybe that's why I'm so happy. I'm just dumb.
I am happy with Pete Seth's what he's doing. I am to apply in some freaking common sense. I actually I didn't realize follow me on Instagram and I sent him a note. I was like, hey, man, keep up with the good work. Five minutes He's like, thanks, Man.
Yeah, he's busy, he's been. Well that's good too, because I've been I've been advocating for years like that status quo is a retired for star general or a uh a DC swamp rat that's gonna do the same thing they've always done. You need a mid level officer who's had combat experience, and Pete's got that. He knows the men. But also he uh like, he played basketball at Princeton and he was known for being the hardest worker out there, staying, you know, getting it early, staying because he wants to be on the court, knows the team, He talks to the guys on the ground. He's set def that does pt with the guys. And then he'll pull aside the E for Mafia like this is the guy we need. This is goin to trim the fat. And I have been in love with that major. Hegseth now outranks every general in the military.
Yeah, that's great. Yeah, especially like renaming those bases too, Yeah.
Name them back to I love what he did with Fort Bragg too, he named it after a different brag. That's a good move. That's its quality shit right there.
Yeah, good stuff. Any thoughts on h on China, Like what's happening in China?
Yeah, China has been fighting the war send I mean since even before the the Opium Wars, when when the UK started pumping opium to get everyone addicted so they could do whatever, and then China was pissed. They started redoing it to our troops and Vietnam and stuff like that. And there there again too. It's the whole The United States has the clocks, but we have the time. They're fighting for the for the future. But the stuff they were pulling before too, like that. I mean, why do you think no congressmen or senators from California ever mentioned China. Well, they bought and paid for the honeypot of the ship out them. Look at Eric Swalwell, Like look at the spy that was driving for was it Barbara Boxer for twenty years? Look at there's Chinese spies everywhere. China knows how to they know how to get They get FCN Island type propaganda and not propaganda necessarily, but blackmail, and they're really good at that. They're really good at buying land here near military basis, putting in sleeper sales here. Then the Panama Canal, which they basically had until I mean, we sort of have it now, but I mean, yeah, it's owned by an American company, but that company is called black Rock, so whatever that is worth. But yeah, I mean they want Taiwan because of the microchip thing and that rare earth technology. Same with Ukraine, because they're smart enough to realize the wars are going to change and it's not necessarily gonna be army after army, it's going to be the artificial intelligence, the straight terminator shit, and that's where the chips come in. So they need Taiwan. We need to be smart enough to realize the logistical issue of having another fight in the Pacific because you got to get our shit obviously from the United States Hawaii over to Guam, stuff like that, and then our allies are no longer going to be NATO, it's more Japan Australia stuff like that. Then NATO might get pulled in. But like even with the the way like we should be out of NATO now's there's no reason for us to be there. But the way a lot of these European countries are thinking is uh, like with the EU. Okay, so the EU means your government needs a government, like what the ship is wrong with you people? You got to thin that ship down. And then the UN, I mean they have some of the You've seen it a bunch of times, they have some of the best property, uh in New York. Why do they have that? Get them out? Kick them the fun out.
No, the UN is totally dysfunction all.
But I think China is uh. China is a bigger navy than us. They are a bigger military. Here's my crazy theory though, because we always say that we you know, we'd be out of missiles in a week and a half and we've lost every war game against China. I don't think that's true. I think we say that. I think that's the whole uh bin Laden is in the cave with the dialysis machine type shit. Yeah, until we go prove it and fuck them up, like I think we could take China. I don't want to, but I think we could.
Yeah, not to get a lot of numbers, but I tell you what, man, they are really good at at the long game and and the using you know, our own freedoms against us to to your point on the dock to the TikTok thing. I was on a production call for a TV series and they were asking the main protagonists of Iran and they're like asking me, hey, well can we change the the protagonists? You know, we just feel like Iran has been you know, done too many times, Like okay, well let's just do China. And they're like, oh, we can't do China. And after the call, I talked to the producer who's made a lot of big movies in Hollywood and he said, look, Brandon, China has so much money in Hollywood. Everyone is afraid to even whisper a bad thing about China because they're going to get the funding pulled. And that's how that's how much this is American Hollywood. How much influence China has. Like they had everyone super scared because they're putting billions of money into into them.
Remember when John Cena came out and he gave that huge apology in Mandarin. I mean what I mean talk about it. And I love John Cene. I think he's fantastic, but come on, you pussy.
Yeah.
I know again in John cens defense, I probably wouldn't say that to his face, but just I mean, even with like the the the movie The Interview, which to this day is one of the funniest Dan movies I've ever seen. Kim Jong hun didn't like it because China probably told him not to like it. Then Hollywood cave like that movie was funny. It's the humor when you're dealing with China because they're I mean, they're smart. Look at fentanyl. That's not an accident that they open up uh fat Like they're working in cahoots with different cartels in different spots also in Canada, because they can push fentanyl in there knowing that's that's war. That's an act of war right there. Killing one hundred thousand Americans a year didn't really mention as much as we I mean, we say it. That's a lot of people, you know, that's two football stadiums basically full of people that die every year because of this drug they're skinning across. Because we don't do.
Badness.
I mean it ruined cocaine for the rest of us.
I was a quick sidebar. But I was down at the Bioaccelerator Clinic and Columbia doing the stem cells and one of the guys down there, Jowey, he was dating this girl and he was telling we were talking about immigration in the US and he's like, especially under how crazy it was under Biden, like just you know, not to put it all on him, but the fact that this girl he was dating says, yeah, I'm going to go to the US on vacation. He's like, what do you mean, You're not even like you don't have a visa, Like how he is it possible? She's like, Oh, I'm going to take the train to the border of Arizona and Arizona, Texas. But she was like, yeah, I'm going to do this and then there's this group that will take me over and the US will like give me a hotel and cash. And he was like pulling up on his phone and he was showing me. She documented her trip on her Instagram and she's like, yeah, at the hotel with like forty dollars cash at the government gave her. They gave her a lawyer. This is like a twenty something girl. It didn't just went there as a as like a little yeah. I was like, I was shocked.
He was showing me this stuff on the phone, and I'm like, that's insane. Like I had no idea that that's that was the state status of our of our border situation.
That's insane, unbelievable. I never thought of that. That.
Yeah, just people they knew it. They knew how imagine like if that's like something twenty something Wow, would just come for to spend two weeks in America on the US TAC bearer and then go back. Okay, yeah, I saw it. Now I'm home page.
You could tell people this and half the country would would not care that their money is being wasted on just a vacation. And and they always go back to the whole refugee ship like, oh, they're leaving a war torn you know, they're not. How many countries one hundred and fifty different countries are not they're not all refugees. What the why are you taking people in the canty keep their own house in order? Why do we need them? It's and then they spent it to uh oh, you just hate migrants, Like no, I don't hate immigration. I love him immigration. I hate twenty million people coming here illegally. And then and even I saw an interview the Aurora, Colorado stuff where the gang members are taking it over, and I think Stephen Miller, No, it was a JD Vance was on TV and he was giving an interview talking about the apartment buildings. And she said, uh, I forget which reporter, but she goes, uh, well, it's just a handful of him, and he goes, listen to yourself, it's only a handful of our apartment buildings taken over by cartels in America. Like, listen to what you're saying. There's just just a couple of them.
Like no, that's like the press getting mad at Trump for deep like deporting the hardcore gang members like good luck, yeah, good luck trying to get public for.
That, unelected judges turning him around troop movements, like to the commander in chief is being shut down by a judge in Washington, DC. It's like, who who's juris? It's madness. And that again too is Senator Kennedy. He said, you start trimming the fat, the pigs are gonna squeal.
Yeah, No, that's a good Uh, that's a good point. And the thing that I mean, I'm really happy to see what's going on now. The problem is like eventually it's stuff's gonna get unwont like it's gonna unwind, and and the fundamentally of the system is broken. Like we need a we need a system that alects a lot better more competent leaders. Yeah, I mean, the House, Senate, the President.
The only problem is they're the lawmakers, so they're not going to change it. It's like saying, well, Congress, maybe you shouldn't vote on a raise for yourself this year. That's gonna happen. They're gonna get it, uh, and they're never gonna vote against this is this is why I mean, seriously, you need uh, you need someone like the uh like Doge in there to get rid of some of the stuff. And then and then what needs to happen is is DC needs to get broken up, like the White House should be there, the Capital should be there, the FBI should not be there, get the CIA out of there, get get all those and and then you know, then trimming the fat with the Department of Education, the EPA, the aht F, the I R S cut them and and and like shut the people that you got to avoid a government shutdown? Why shut them down? What what is the government does nothing for you? Like look at our infrastructure. Look at the difference between the trains in Europe and the trains here. Our trains here suck because none of them, none of your taxpayer. By the way, we had better roads than trains before we started doing income tax. We're not. I'm just spinning up here too. No cut.
Yeah, And the hardest part I have going back to the US now is the food. Like I can almost taste the GMO. It's shocking food. I get bread delivered my plate, fresh bread, but two days it's moldy. I'm like, man in the US, this would be good for a couple of weeks.
Now that's something too. I'm a one of my hobbies is baking and cooking, and yeah, my bread is sale or sorry, moldy in a couple two days, Like you said, I have, Like I have potato slider rolls. I think have been in my bread box for about ten months and they're perfect.
It's not anything at Costco last year, Like no set.
I'm coming over to Europe this this spring. I can't wait. I'm gonna give a speech, and I think it's Switzerland. I'm really excited to get.
Backwitzerland's amazing, man, it's amazing. It's really really, really well run, the way they divide up the little cantons to like neighborhoods that governs themselves in their own tax money themselves.
Did you get to any football matches while you're over there? Into that? You know?
My youngest is, so we're gonna We're gonna go see uh uh, what's the big team in Madrid. It's a real.
Madrid, real Madrid.
Yeah, but I'm getting into I like watching the big, the big matches like World Cup.
And yeah, well that's coming here to the States too. I'm excited for that. I think I never got to see Michael Jordan play, which is a regret. I think I got to see Ronaldo before he retires.
Yeah, well, if you make it to Lisbon, let me know you guys.
Are Yeah, most definitely can. We can definitely have fun the ship. We can just go to a pub and not even go to the.
I'll take you guys flying too, man, if you bring.
I totally do that. Yeah, it'd be cool.
Yeah, we gotta shoot under the shoot under the bridge. All right, man, it's been a good conversation. I funk I could go for another hour, but.
This is awesome. We just have a conversation and that's good. I'm gonna get in touch to I gotta get you on the operator. We can just we can reattack this.
Yeah, yeah, I would love to and we'll make sure we'll get the operator Canna and the show link and yeah, good luck to everything you're doing.
And awesome, awesome, thank you very much. Man.
We ust to luck.
Man. She has your two brothers, Tukson, great senior.
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