Ed Rush is a former F-18 pilot and five-time bestselling author of books such as "The 21 Day Miracle", "Warrior", and his latest book called "God Talks". He gives an insider look into the inner workings of some of the world's most iconic jet fighters and even comments on the declassified reports on UFOs.
In "God Talks", Rush explores the conversational nature of the personal relationship with God. For the skeptics, the black-and-white rules of religion are just guides, but once a personal relationship develops, it is possible to experiment, ask God questions, and get answers. In Rush's experience, even phenomenally supernatural things are possible after opening up a conversation with God.
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Rat Awesome to be here, by the way, So I had I just sold it a few years ago. Back I had a collector's edition Corvette twenty eighteen. Beautiful Corvette. And it's a horrible combination for a fighter pilot because I drive fast anyway, Like when I'm driving my family, like in the past Suv, I drive fast, but like when I'm in a Corvette, I drive really fast. But the greatest part about this is I've talked to myself out of nineteen out of twenty of the tickets that I've been pulled over for. I have a technique. It's a very simple technique. I'll tell you, I'll tell you nothing behind the scenes. You admit everything. So when the guy says, do you know how fast you were going? You say, yes, sir, I was going eighty four and it was a sixty five zone. And it takes them so off guard they don't know what to do. That's how We'll start today with the best piece of driving advice I could ever give you.
Is just be straight up be like hey, yeah, oh, they're like, but you're not lying to me, and you're not trying to pull it over. You're not saying you're like a sovereign citizen, and you're not gonna roll your window down. You're like, I was doing eighty four.
It's crazy. So the human brain, you know, works off of patterns, and police have a pattern. Right, they pull up, the person gets upset, they tell them how marrible the police are. They cry, So they're used to that, right, So when you nail the number, because they've got a radar gun, right, just like you know raidar on the front of the F eighteen that I flew, and it's very accurate. So if you were going eighty four, it shows that you were going eighty four, like you know it. He knows that the digital readout on the curve of corvette knows it, and so and so, uh, I'm gonna get myself in trouble right off the bat. So, but I have a lot of friends where police officers. I told them about this, so they always say, Surge, you know, I pulled you over and I always say, yes, sir, I do. I was going and I say the speed and I say the speed limit, and it so discombobulates them. They literally they have to take your license and registration to make sure, you know, like.
A terrorist or whatever.
Right, And but so they come they do it, they check it, check out you're not a terrorist. And they come back and they always go, you know, you seem like you seem like a good guy. I'm just gonna go ahead and let you off of the warning. And they say it the same way, I'm just gonna go ahead and let you off of the warning. I had one guy out of twenty who gave me the ticket. I have to say he was he was hold holding true to his guns.
I was.
I was the one shock to that day. Yeah, but there that's not even on the script of our interview discussion. I wasn't one of the questions.
No, And I love it no because it's it's real, right. And it's what's funny is I'm right outside Hill Air Force Base here in Utah, and I have a friend who flies F sixteen's and here you go. His call signs Moses. So if you watch this, Moses, Okay, because he was like thirty four when he commissioned. So you know, yeah, yeah, so Moses, okay again you're gonna know who you are. He also has the Corvette right driving on base. Twenty miles an hour in a Corvette has got to be like the most daunting thing for the Corvette to ever go like so slow, like you know, you can't go fast. I mean it wants to go fast first gear. You're like ninety miles an hour plus. You have a heads up display system and that of course you have that vehicle.
It gives you you can time zero to sixteen. The corvette so used to go to the mountains and set the timerund to see what at full manual By the way, seven speeds. So and now we're talking my language. Man, yeah, American muscle right there, baby it is.
And so what do you think about these new Is it the C eights that have the engine in the rear of it? Are you a fan of that? Yes?
The SA eight is a center mid engine.
Oh miss so yeah, yeah, yeah.
So the corvette had a see one through seven. The corvette had a massive engine in the front, massive engine in the front, basically nothing in the back, which is a major issue for the first series of Corvettes. That car was one of the worst cornering cars when you were up up to speed because when you're driving fast, the weight actually moves towards the back of the car. So, for example, the Porsche I raced. I raced Porsches in Atlanta and Rode Atlanta. So the Porch nine eleventh, Yeah, it's great, it's great. It was fun too. Speed does anything that goes fast?
Right?
Yeah, So the Porsche has the engine in the back right, which means it actually gets great. It turns well under acceleration or under braking, but it actually doesn't turn very well when you're under acceleration because your weight pushes all the way to the back. Well, this mid mounted engine is designed to solve that whole thing. But the went engine right in the middle. And some of my buddies are executives a Corvette. They had some issues with the airframe twisting a little bit when they first built that car. But it is awesome, dude, that car is a phenomenal car in Corvette. Thank God for Corvette, because General Motors hasn't had had a good twenty years, you know.
Yeah, what other supercar American made other than maybe like but the Corvette, it's like so available. I don't really know, like Ford has, like musta be you gotta have some dough to shell out for a McLaren or some type of Shelby. But the Corvette's I mean, for what it is. You can get him in the eighties eighty thousand for a C eight, you know, maybe a nice twenty twenty three or something.
I mean, so the McLaren.
So this is the common question I got with my Corvette because the Corvette is two seater right left sat, right seat, drivers in the left, like a normal American car. And everyone asked, I have four kids, right, it's family of six. So everyone always asked me, They said, don't you wish it had more seats? I said, I wish it had less seats. I wish it had one seat. Like when I was planned Fighters, I had a car. I sat in the middle of the of the of the car. There was no other seats. And McLaren just came out with a car. They're producing twenty five of these, or four million dollars apiece. Just watch a video on it that is literally a single seat car, just like a for Formula one I'm like, dude, sign me up for that.
So you're just racked around it. It's just like you're snow Piercer, where you're just the yeah, the handler of the vehicle. You just got to do the you know the movie the Little Handjester from snow takes some it takes the human element no matter what. Okay, the machine still needs the human element. Now, you said something earlier about the F eighteen having radar. Of course it does. Well, I haven't flown at F eighteen, Super Hornet A or any of those. The radar does that tell you how fast like UFO's coming at you if you have an unidentified flying object? Is that We were like, hey, it came at me at like seven hundred knots.
That's good. That's a good question. By the way, I just did a podcast. It was like two weeks ago. The entire entire podcast was about UFOs. We talked like an and a half. And I'm happy to talk about this topic too. By the way, there's no topic off limits. There's some topics I'm not very good at talking about, but there's no topics off limits.
And yeah, so the APG sixty.
Five seventy three is the sweeping radar that that's in the front of the legacy Hornet. I flew ABCD model which is legacy Hornet, the e FG where are super Hornet variants?
So I was in the Marines.
Marines typically don't have a lot of money, so we had the legacy version of the airplane. What happened was as they developed the Hornet, the newer radar is a is a radar, it's not a dish. The normal radar dish moves back and forth, sweeps back and forth, sends its signal down range, receives its signal, switches on and off to receive and send. A phase array radar basically is a bunch of radar of microchips that send a beam wherever you want to send a beam. So it actually allows you to shoot radar beams simultaneously into different directions, which a traditional dish can't do. You have to wait for the dish to come back and forth. So the newer models like the for example, the F twenty two, F thirty five all have phase array a agis cruisers, Patriot missile batteries or all. This is not new technology, but the radar and the faighteen that I flew was the normal legacy radar, which was capable of picking up basically anything that was flying as long as it could pull it out of whatever the ground ground clutter was. I didn't see an UFOs. I know some guys that did, or at least thought they did so thought they saw something.
Huh.
So the government declassified a video video was shot back in twenty fourteen. They declassified it in twenty twenty one. And the most fascinating thing rad about this, Like, during those first two years of COVID, like twenty twenty to twenty twenty one, the news cycle was only about COVID, Like the only thing anyone ever talked about was COVID and the election that was it. And so like right in the middle of that, the government released this video and they're like, here's this video, so like UFOs kind of exist, and like that's kind of.
That's what they said, and then nobody's.
Covered it, did they say in like in like a like a in a congressional hearing or something, and even like talk about it, and like they were like yes, but everybody's like, Okay, let's not all die UFOs are here. That's cool, but let's not you know.
They like said it out loud, you know, and I have some local TV that will call me if something happens. And they said, can we send a crew down to your house? And said that's fine. So they said, they said the government just admitted UFOs. I said, well, the government steaky because technically UFO means it's a flying object that we have not identified, right, So the government didn't say there's aliens, even though you know they probably are, right. The government just said, hey, here's something we have not identified. But I will say there are some there's some videos. There's some for looking for infrared flear footage from two separate F eighteens watching something do something that things can't do. The second footage you can find it online. It's not classified. We can talk about this all we want. With a second piece of footage shows a single aircraft moving from like ten thousand feet to eighty thousand feet and then back down again. And I'll just tell you, no airplane, you can't. You will if you're a pilot inside there, your body will be destroyed by the time you get to eighty thousand feet unless you're in an SR seventy one and to pressurize cockpit or unless you're in a spaceship, but then coming back down again, same problem.
So yeah, because your body's just going for like so fast up and down. It's just not even I.
Mean, most vehicles can't even do that. Like, you have to have a very specialized aircraft. The F eighteen max ceiling was fifty thousand. The F sixteen that your buddy flies moses fifty thousand.
Roughly.
There's airplanes SU twenty four's. We've got, you know, intercept airplanes that we build that fly higher than that SR seventy one blackbird. Yeah, you've got airplanes that are like surveillance you two, that fly over that. But you have to have a very specialized airplane to get there. And we have radar tracking for looking in for.
D as well.
And actually it was an AGES cruiser that was tracking it, like highly accurate altitude that shows this thing go from ten thousand feet to eighty thousand feet and back down again in the space of like two minutes. It's impossible, by the way, I mean, it's possible, but like not with current technology that we have.
Right you know. And here in Utah we have a place called skin Walker Ranch, which is like south in Vernal, Utah. And a friend of mine owns it. And he was a former Security forces for twenty three years in the Air Force and wounds up owning this place. And it's called Ufo Alley, Okay, because like there's all sorts of things and like they're the Navajo have like the skin the skin walkers, Okay, you know with the hands. So here in Utah, it's really you know, there's some lights. He's got to say, Hey, it's probably you know, I've bet Okay, I'll tell you something. So we do war games. I do airsoft war on a large scale. And we were guarding a SAM site literally like out in the desert. It's all built out. The whole area is all built out, and me and my guys are taking watch and I'm like, you know, I've got a night vision on what's the odds that I'm just gonna like drop my night vision down and look and see somebody at the SAM site, Okay. And it's pitch black three in the morning, and I'm just like, I'm gonna do this movie moment right now. No, they're not there. I'm gonna do this movie moment right now. No, not there. But what I see is this bright light in the sky from my PVS four teens, and I was like, yo, joker, joker, we're not under the flight path. And I'm elbowing him. He's like kind of behind me in the bunker and he gets up on it. He looks and we're like, Ajax, Ajax, wake up, wake up, look, look look, you know, check this out, you know, cause it's a total three am ambush. I'm on guard and they're just kind of resting, so I'm just like getting their attention and it just comes at us in this weird white light and just kind of disappears. But I wouldn't have seen it if I'd have my nods because then it's just like amplified. So to get back to the sam site here I am. That happens, we're quiet, back quiet again, and again I go for that movie book and there they are three guys coming into our samsite to try to like dismantle it. And it was just like pop pop, pop, pop pop. I love doing war games. It's very super awesome and it gives us that shoulder shoulder camaraderie that a lot of folks are looking for, like especially guys that get out of the military, they like, where do I go? Who do I turn to? How can I get back into a team? If it's a softball, is it some type of outdoor sport or maybe wargames with us, you know where we're not like, We're just like, let's have a fun time, dude. You're just gonna unbuckle your commuter seat belt, come out to the desert with us in some gear and we're gonna run around and do some crazy fun times in the desert, you know, and just get your mental bearing just straight, maybe just a little bit right.
So I'm a what did you see?
So we chalked it up to like an it had to be an airplane that just went black, because it did it. It was a light coming in and it was just this really weird hourglass shape. It wasn't like a circle. And I'm just watching this thing come in and we were all watching it and then it just kind of disappeared. So yeah, and so we just thought, well, maybe it just turned. Maybe it was an aircraft that had turned and we just didn't see any more of its light signature. But I mean, I'm out in the middle of the desert and Dougway is to the west of me, and then south is like all shut down airspace for Area fifty one and Dougway. So we fight out and those desert lands out there, away from everybody, and you know who knows, right, who knows? I've been marching out there with my dad when I was a little kid, and we'd go rabbit hunting. My dad was a former Green Beret, so he's like, hey, Aaron, let's go out a little rabbit hunting and we I'm gonna take aeron out. We'd go out to the desert and he's like, we're walking. He's like, why do you think there's a C one thirty landing out here? And he would just bring that up like a normal question when landing gear down. It's up here coming on into something. You know, why is there a stovepipe popping out of the ground right here? Do you think as we're looking for rabbits in the desert? And I was like, Dad, Now that I'm older and he's no longer around, I just think about these little moments of him taking out to the desert and pointing out these little things, and I was like he was showing me, like, you know, some things. Bro, I'm just saying it's probably still out there, and you know, I hope he's where God talks to him. Right now, I'm going to segue into your book with God Talks, okay, And I know it's not a religious book per se. When you call it God Talks, why don't you give me a little synopsis, so my listener, here is what we're going to talk about.
Yeah, that's awesome, thank you for asking. So the short and dirty sort of like background to this. You know, I was a fighter pilot, like we talked about. It was in the Marines for eleven years. After duty, two years drilling reserve is, flying F fives. Most of my career was in the F eighteen. It went to Iraq twice, you know, went and flew Adversary and the F five kind of the bad guy airplane like in Top Gun, the fun the fun side actually, and then then I got out started building businesses, started speaking. That was what I was really doing. Most of speaking and writing books, I was working with business people. You know, most military guys, especially fighter pilots, kind of go in one of two directions. There's only kind of two roads either they go kind of a contract route where they end up flying for airlines, where they work for Boeing or something like that, where they turned into entrepreneurs. There's really not many other roads. It's like that's kind of where we went, and I ended up as an entrepreneur. So I started speaking. I was working mostly with business owners, teaching people like branding stuff, communication skills, like a lot of leadership stuff, a lot of peak performance, how to manage your time really well. I have a whole thing that I teach on time and compression. As a fighter apology, you know, you're going sometimes you're going twenty miles a minute towards your target, you know, and that you have to be able to think at a massively fast pace to be able to do that. So when I teach people who feel overwhelmed, especially in the business environment, especially as entrepreneurs, entrepreneurs get very overwhelmed very quickly, I teach them how to compress time, how to you know, breathe and make your life very simple. And so in the process of all that, you know, was a very I was always a very theistic person. I always, you know, believed in God and and felt that that that was important with the church and stuff like that, but I did not. I did not have any inclination at all that there was any sort of conversational nature to it at all. In fact, if you had interviewed me even twelve years ago and you had said, Hey, I had this guy on my show who has the who talks to God, I would have told you twelve years ago, well, that guy's probably a lunatic or a heretic. Okay, so I'm just telling you twelve years ago me. We'll be looking at me now, be like, dude, what's up with that guy?
Right?
But what I started to do is there's journals behind me. I don't know how much of the video you can see what I see it back to journals, right, Yes, And so that's my mom is by the way, my mom's in the Basketball Hall of Fame.
That's her home fame.
Legit. Sorry, I get excited.
It's a side note.
My mom is one of the greatest college basketball coaches of all time, and I was there sitting right next to her when he got she got ducked into the Basketball Hall of Fame.
She's an epic.
Yeah, that's awesome. It's another story. My dad's a famous basketball referee. I'm horrible at basketball. It's like there's a whole story.
You know, you could be the son of a referee. Dude, if I look at you and you should oh yeah, black white shirt.
Yeah, oh dude, I have.
By the way, we have my dad and I have mentored fifteen hundred basketball referee. So that's another business that was actually one of the business I started, like when I started companies and stuff. Anyway, so back to the story. I'm sitting in my chair, my little chair, in my journal. I'm just doing like a thinking exercise, and I'll teach people, you know, especially entrepreneurs. I'll teach folks like the importance of like just thinking. You know, most people don't actually think. Most people don't take time to like pause and to like think about their thinking, which is another layer of thinking.
Right.
Thinking is one layer. Then thinking about what you're thinking about it's like another layer. And I'm sitting there and all of a sudden, I started having this conversation with God and he's communicating back to me, okay, and I will just tell you it was not a like it wasn't like flowery and sort of like ethereal. We were talking about a business deal that I was going to have later on that afternoon. Sure, and he was giving me very strategic intelligence about how much to charge, how to structure the deal, and I was like, wow, this is crazy, Like I did not think that was possible, you know. So I started doing it, and I was doing it all by myself, because the truth is I didn't want to tell anyone about I didn'ven tell my family about it, dude, I didn't tell my friends. I was sitting there for years developing this practice of learning how to ask these questions and get answers. And then one day I had a friend of mine who I had been sharing this with, and he's he's like, dude, why don't you just try it at one of your events. Why don't you just do an optional session and tell people how to do it, you know. And I'm like, I don't think you understand, Like I don't do events like this. I don't do I called it wooy WOOI I said, I don't do wooy wooy mindset stuff. I teach marketing, positioning, branding, peak performance, time management, hardcore stuff dude, Like I'm a marine, you know. And he's like, just try to try like an optional session. So It was a three day event that I was having. I had two hundred and fifty people there, and on the third morning, I said, look, if you want to come early, I've developed this method of asking God questions and getting answers, and if you want to come, you're welcome to just you know, come and we'll do an hour early. And I had two hundred and fifty people at this event, and two hundred and forty nine showed up at the optional session. And it's all walks of life. Man, it was like Christians, Buddhist, Hindus, Muslims, skeptics, atheists, agnostics, new ag people, everybody. And I said, look, this is all you're gonna do. Take out your journal, I'll put some music on. You're gonna ask these two questions. And the two hundred forty nine people start asking questions, and I kid you not.
First of all, you could hear a pin drop.
Second, what happened is about three to four minutes into the exercise, there's people literally like weeping as God's bringing them into some sort of memory, or he's bringing them into some cataclysmic moment. There's some massive transition happening in these people's lives and I'm like, I'm like, I'm not even sure what I'm doing at the moment, like you know.
So I'm like, okay, you know, yeah, He's I feel you. I love it, but I get it.
So after this exercise, this woman walks up to me. I read about her in the book by the Way. Her name is Maya, and she has a yellow pad of paper like the one I have in my hand right here. And she comes up to me and she goes, I have a question for you. She said, I'm an atheist and I have two pages of notes right now from God.
How does that work? That's what he asked me, she said, she said, how does that work? Now?
This is her story, and I will tell you. She told me the whole story, and she told the whole story publicly. So this is something that I'm free to share. From age five until age seventeen, this woman, Maya, was sexually abused by her adopted dad from five to seventeen. She went off to college, disconnected from that relationship and went hard court. She was a big wave surfer, a lawyer, high powered skier like ski patrol. Everything she did she went crazy. But she never told anyone the story. For forty years, dude, forty years. She didn't tell anyone the story about what happened. When she was five to seventeen, she walks into my event. She asked, God, what lies do I believe about me? God says, you believe that you're ugly and not worthy of love, and he took her into a memory and the memory was her father, you know. And then God healed that during that time in my session. And then he brought her back and she said, well, what's true about me? And he said, You're beautiful and I've always loved you. And she's journaling these things as God is speaking this to her. Three months later, who had never told this story before, standing on the stage at my next event, telling this story to two hundred and fifty other people, literally, this atheist woman who had this massive breakthrough. And it was about then that I was like, I think I'm just gonna go ahead and tell everybody about this. And so I wrote this book. But the book is really designed for a skeptical person who may have been hurt by religion. I have a lot of people that have been hurt, like by the church or by somebody who is connected to the church. It's not a denominational book. It's not like a religious like. It's not from any religious angler or whatever.
It's it's a read.
It's from a It's a story based book that just shows you, step by step if you're curious how to ask God questions. And most people tell me they come into the exercise they do. They come into the book or the exercise. Most most people say, I'm not expecting anything to happen. I'll just ask the universe. Some people are like, I'm just going to ask you universe. I'm like, you're asking, but.
Yeah, and so, dude, I've had I'm not kidding you.
It's probably twenty thirty thousand people at this point that I've used the tools inside the book. And every day on Instagram or on email or we have a community online. Every day I hear another story every day. It's unbelievable to see the life breakthrough and then the business breakthrough. We even talk about business, but I literally will teach business owners seven figure, eight figure, nine figure business owners, we're just starting out business owners how to ask God strategic questions about their business and get answers.
And dude, this is from.
A guy who twelve years ago thought I would have called myself now like crazy or whatever.
So anyway, it's been a fun ride.
No, I can actually relate and I'll give you something, okay. So here I am. I'm evolving my business into having a shoot house and a pro shop, so I need something with space and something with a pro shop space so I can have all of this going on at once as an amusement facility. And I'm just like, I need something that's like, you know, eight to ten thousand square feet, and I'm just racking my brain. I'm driving all over late in Utah as I know the city and my dad raised me there, and I'm just like, you know, I used to have a skateboard shop when I was a young man. When I was thirteen years old, my dad helped me open a skateboard shop. So here I am thinking to myself, my dad's passed away, and I'm like, I have to move out of this location I'm paying rent. I no longer want to pay rent. I want to own my own building and pay myself the rent. And I'm like, well, I can't find anything, and the rent's coming like my agreement's coming up with the place I'm currently in and I want to get out, and I'm just like finding buildings and I'm like, I can't quite use this one. And I was like, Dad, I was like, just tell me, you know, I'm going crazy. I'm looking for the building. Dad, Just can you please tell me what I should be looking for. And he's like, go to the place that I wanted to make a skate park out of. And I was like, what the hell? Dad? All right, fine, you know, because when I was younger we looked at this building. He's like, one day, if you could ever own this building and make a good indoor skate ramp park and all this kind of stuff. At the top of Hillfield Road in Layton. So I'm driving and I'm like, all right, let's go look at that old space. Right. There's no for sale signs out there or nothing. I go drive. I pull in the parking lot and I remember this middle section is abandoned. So I look in there with my glasses and through the darkness, and I see a sign that says for sale in there, like he had taken it out of the grass and put it in this room. I call the number and the guy's like, yeah, I'm for sale, but you know, it's kind of hard to get this building. So he helped me get the building. He was the real litter, and I was just like, this is blowing me away. So today it thrives. It is the place, and I attribute it to talking to my dad, you know, having an internal prayer, having some type of like can you help me out? Now. I was raised in the Mormon Church from birth till you know, twenties, where you know, then at that point I started to taking on my own skin about everything. So I don't doubt that there's something greater than me, and I don't doubt that somebody kind of held my hand, whether it was my dad or it's within my own self right that brought me to that location, but that I got an answer and today I'm there.
Yeah, that's super cool man. So yeah, it's interesting.
We had we had one of the leaders in the Mormon Church who was connected to me and my events for years. He came up to me after a year he said, honestly, I'm just so envious of the personal nature in which you talk about, you know, And I thought, that's that's so cool for him to say that, even transparently, like I really respect him and really like him. I thought it was interesting how he just talked about that that relational and by the way, everybody who's grown up like in a really.
Religious, like really religious background, I was grown up. I grew up in that background.
There's always this set of rules and it's a very black and white sort of world. And if he knows something about training, which you obviously know something about training, your audience knows something about training. The person watching and listening to this clearly knows training. Like if you're training someone to fly an airplane, if you're training someone to fire in M sixteen, if you're training somebody to go and patrol, or you're training somebody to do basic nots. You know how to how to steer a ship in combat, riverine operations, whatever it is that you're training someone to do. You start out with a very black and white way of doing things, Like when you learn a weapon, you learn the four weapon safety laws, Like you know that your fingers straight off off the trigger until you intend to shoot, the weapons on safe until you tend to shoot, like you have a set of rules that you like run by, and that's when you're training someone, like the very basics, like when they're really young and immature and like they're just starting out. But there does come a point where you mature to where the world is a lot more complicated and more dangerous but also more fun, you know, right, And what happens with traditional religion often is they get stuck in that infancy where because the rules are frankly, very comfortable, like this like black and white world. But then when you get into this new when you mature, you start to realize, well, first of all, the earth is a lot more complicated than we think it is. It's why this really religious black and white people have an issue. We're recording this right in the middle of the twenty twenty four election. Most people have a problem choosing one or the other candidate because there's neither of the candidate is Jesus, Like nobody's perfect, right, So like you don't have you know, like, oh my gosh, you know, like this guy had an affair. You're like, well, like, you know, welcome to the real world. You know, like people are messy, you know, like there's a lot that's a lot of problems in the world, and nobody's you know, so both of them had affair. How about that? Everybody?
How about that.
You know, now what you know they both have you know, I mean, like come on, you know, I mean, I mean that that's a thing. So you got to really just go at it with. What I like to say about being an American is I don't have to say who I want to vote for or anything. I go to the curtain, open it up, close it, punch it, close it. I'm out. I don't have to say it. I don't have to flex it. I don't have to like wave it on the back of a truck. I don't have to do any of that. I don't. You don't either, and no one does. Yeah, it's your choice to sit there and open your gap about whatever you want to open it one side or the other. But you know, I get that they have to make their candidate known, and they have to put out the billboards, and they have to say we're the best, or I'm the best, or I'm your man, vote for me, or you know, you know, give me a shot. Let's look, Alice Cooper, dude, should be the president. Let's elect Alice Cooper.
We got we got some got close a couple of times. Jesse Ventura, you know, is governor of Minnesota. And Arnold Schwarzenegger.
If he was an American, if he was like actually born here.
He would have he would have won the presidency if he was If he.
Was if Arnold was born in America, he could run for president, you know, Republican or Democrat. I would think that he would give it a good shot. Yeah, you know, at least we're gonna have an actor run the country. But you know, nobody beats the predator. Bro come on, you know, Arnold dude commando.
I just remember what.
Was the movie?
What was the movie where he was holding the guy over the cliff and his name was Sully and he's suddenly my arm, my arm is getting so.
He dropped him. He was one of his early movies. I'm trying to remember that.
Someone coming down below. When you learn what that movie is, that Arnold hold him over, it's like.
I have my almost saw it. And then he threw him off the fledge. They said later on, they said, would you do a sell? He said, I let him go.
That's good, that's good. Yeah, Arnold man not to like divert off of you know, talking to God, you know about your like very inner self. But I feel that, you know, once you get to this point of what do I do? You know, an entrepreneur's definition. The definition of being an entrepreneur is like, you know, you're someone out of a job. Yeah, yeah, yeah, unemployable, Yeah, you're unemployed. You know, You're like, okay, I'm an entrepreneur. It's like okay, when you get to this point of like how am I going to do it? What am I going to do? Who do you talk to?
Interesting like hearing your hearing reading first, getting to know you before the show, but then yeah, hearing your bio. Your dad really encouraged that entrepreneurial spirit and you, like thirteen years old, opening that open shop that you had. Most parents wouldn't, you know, And that's that's really that's really commendable parenting, Like the ability to put someone out entrepreneur.
Entrepreneurship is risky. You can lose everything.
I've lost a lot, you know, like like I've made a lot of mistakes, but it was really cool that your dad did that. We in the book, I talk quite a bit about neurology. In fact, the first four chapters aren't even about conversation with God. They're about how your brain works. And by the way, no matter what, no matter where you come from. Understanding how to code and recode the software of your brain is a is a personal development skill that you must have period. The mind works in it like a computer system. I could show you videos of neural networks disconnecting and reconnecting. There is a way using your words to physically I mean this, I don't mean this even so much spiritually, I mean physically neurologically literally recode the wiring inside of your brain. There's a method to be able to do that, and I talk about in the book. And most people first have to uncode what their parents taught them about certain things and then recode those like for example, if you're like the if you grew up with like money doesn't grow on trees from your parents, well you have to like uncode that and then recode something else if you want to be successful as a business person or entrepreneur. And really kind of kudos to your dad because that kind of experimental entrepreneurial thing that he taught you so early on was actually coded into your brain. It's given you the success that you have now and created a situation where you were much less averse to risk than most people are.
A little more fearless.
You know. I agree with that because when I had my skateboard shop, I was thirteen when I started selling skateboards. It started with grilled cheeses because everybody had a lemonade stand back in the early nineties, and I was like everybody in the neighborhoods a lemonade stand. Well, my dad, being a Green Beret, he worked in an armory which was adjacent to the junior high school, and it had the gym, gymnasium for pe in a couple of classrooms, wrestling, basketball, everything went in there. So he got a coke machine and a vending machine to say, hey, I'm going to have this in here for my guys so when they get out of their ruts they can come over and get some I'm gonna make some money off my guys for sodas and candy. And then when the events happened, he was the vending machine inside the armory, So my job was I carried a key around my neck. He's like aaron. If you walk by these vending machines and they're turned off, you take that key and you just turn them on. Okay with you and your friends and my friends would all walk with me to the vending machines. They were turned off by the teachers, and I'd just be turn it on and then they would just put their money in and get all their sodas their candy. Was like the old cigarette style of vending machine. Yah yeah, yeah, so have I still have it. I still have it in my garage. I don't know what I'm gonna do with it, but I have it. So that went to my skate shop. But what happened was having the coke machine allowed me to have a stock of like soda in my garage and some candy bars. So I started selling grilled cheeses and diet cokes outside of my house to the neighborhood moms and they would come and buy all the diet cokes two for a dollar. My dad comes home, he's like, what are you doing. I's like, I'm selling the diet cokes and I'm making money and I'm selling grilled cheeses. He's like, how much are making grilled cheese sales? And I said about thirteen dollars. He's like, how much are making soda sales? I sold two twelve packs and he's like how much? I said two for a dollar. He's like, well, you know they're sixty cents now, and I was like, oh, I forgot that they bumped up to sixty cents from fifty cents. Yeah, throwing the dollar off the whole nine yards. So I had to pay him for the sixty cents back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you taught me. And then I had to pay him for the dit dit cokes and pay him for the grilled cheese Velveta and the bread that I used. He said he made me, but I kept about twenty bucks.
So I have to ask you. Really now, I'm gonna ask you. So we're talking like wonderbread and Velveta cheese, grilled cheese, right, world's greatest grilled cheese. So to go completely completely off the topic, Yeah, tell me the greatest sandwich I've ever made in my entire life was a velvet to grilled cheese wonder reread wonder bread, another Velveta grilled cheese, one of read water bread. So you have two grilled cheeses, right, with a burger in the middle with grilled onions and cheese and an egg on top, and the bread the bread is grilled cheeses. So I'm saying like, if you really want to have a fun weekend.
Dude, we should party. You know, like you're here, I'll make it forever's listening.
Your spouse might think, you know, I might not agree with you, but it is it is just just it's a party in your mouth, that's.
All, you know, I'll tell you. And I sold a slice half of a grilled cheese for a dollar to my friends. And I was selling a whole grilled cheese for two bucks. And this was in like nineteen nineties, and so my dad's like, well, the bread was only like eighty seven.
So triangle cut or square cut? That's the only other question.
So I would triangle cut. Yeah, so there get you. I did it.
You'd perfect score so out of ten from the East German judge on the grilled cheese.
So yeah, exactly. And you know, so up until eighteen years old, my skate shop was thriving in this community. I wound up having an arcade with Street Fighter to Mortal Kombat, NBA JAM. Yeah, I started getting all these things in there. So we actually had like a like a hut, a clubhouse for all of us skaters in Layton to cut. You know, we knew all the police, and I didn't realize why I knew all the police was because they all hung out at my dad's house. They're always like out front, like talking to the Green beret. But I didn't realize that was the thing. I just thought, why are the cops at my dad's house? My mom and dad's house. But I got broke into and then I had about fifty thousand dollars at eighteen years old stolen from me in snowboards and skateboards of clothing. And what happened was these new guys moved in with their parents to Hill Air Force Base transitioned into Utah. Then I never knew them. They took a crowbar to my front door and just took everything. I didn't have insurance because as a young man, it's like do I pay six hundred dollars a month in insurance or six hundred rent rent and inventory? I'm selling right, So I'm like, no one's going to steal for me. I'm radal, no one's gonna still no man who wiped it away? So at nineteen, I had to go back to high school regraduate as a second year senior, and then I joined I went to college and then I joined the Air Force, and then got out of the Air Force and did some security and now I'm kind of just acting and doing moving and television. And here we are today, you know, twenty some thirty years later. I have a full on airsoft shop. I have insurance. I have so you said, it's in you like to not try to have these accidents happen again or these problems, you know. So the first thing I did was location, location, location, three l's of business, and then I went after insurance to make sure my insurance was in my business so if it ever got ripped off, I was covered. And that's some lessons I learned that I thank my father for which you kind of brought up what you got me. Yeah, there you are. There's me opening up, and I know it's you, and this is about you. Hey, you're the man F eighteen. You shoot the watch? Do you guys ever go in there and be like here, I was just coming up on a six boo boo bo bo bo bo bo bobo shooting the watch. Yeah, right.
Do I tell at my events, I will always in the book too. I tell there's there's first three chapters. There's three fighter pilot stories all my stories are about how I almost killed myself or how the airplane almost killed me. The opening story in the book, this is a true story. I was in between Hawaii and Wake Island, which are about two thousand miles apart, and I lost an engine in an F eighteen. The checklist to show you how much fuel you need to get on one engine. When you open up your checklist, it ends at two hundred miles because the engineers are like, why would anyone fly more than two hundred miles.
With one engine? You know, because most of the time you're just supposed to land.
Well, when you're a thousand miles away from either airport, you're gonna have to fly one thousand miles.
So I bring the single engine.
I bring the F eighteen single engine record, which is a thousand miles. I literally broke the record by eight hundred miles. And so yeah, when I tell, I tell the stories. So I shoot the watch, although I will say I the moment I left the Marine Corps, dude, like literally like as I left the Marine Corps, I took off my g shock watch that I had, and I've never wont to watch since then. I do want up training, like sometimes if I'm swimming or running or biking, I'll put the watch on in like time, but I want to watch since then it feels really good actually not to have time staring me in the face all the time.
And it's almost like it's almost like an addict who has to cut it out, you know. Like some people who have the problem, they put the watch on the other hand, so when they go to look at the time, it's not an irregular sequence and they're like, oh, it's on this hand yet, Yeah.
I mean, one of the principles I teach on the time management side is your own timetime, doesn't own use. So like a lot of people feel like they're kind of just being run around by the schedule or the time or whatever.
So that was one of my symbolic gestures to say, own time. I'm not putting you on my hand.
Of course, like a year and a half later, cell phones got really popular, so like I started carrying time around in my pocket all of a sudden.
But that's another discussion how to be master.
Now. Have you ever talked to somebody and they got those fancy digital watches that tell them everything, like including like what's online and everything and they're You're having a conversation with them, and then they look at it like is the training. I'm like, is the train coming? What are you looking at? Are you? Are you in a hurry? Do you have to give somewhere? They're like, Oh no, I'm just swiping away my uh you know spam. I'm like, bro, like, we're in the middle of a conversation trying to sell you five thousand dollars with a goods, you know, and you're looking at your clock like I'm slow, Like, what's up, dude, I find that that's a pet peeve.
Oh dude, I'm with you. And by the way, one of the best ways like when you put wisdom in your life. I mean I teach business owners, entrepreneurs, and fundamentally my job is to bring wisdom, not knowledge. Right knowledge would be how to how to code your Apple Watch properly. Wisdom would be like, hey, how about if you just take that off and spend less time with media? And wisdom operates often in the in the reverse of sort of trends my approach nowadays, like, for example, this week, I'm a five year old. I have four kids, but my five year old's my youngest and it's her birthday on Tuesday. We're taking her to Disneyland. Yeah, for two days. I'm not kidding you when I tell you my phone won't leave my house. I live two hours away from Disney End. We're gonna drive up. I know how to get there. I don't need a map, Yeah, right, Like I know how to drive on the five and look at the sign.
You know, you know where you are? You know? Yeah, Well, how am I gonna know?
If there's you know, you're just gonna drive and then you're gonna get off the exit. And if there's traffic, then you'll slow you down. What are you gonna go around?
You know? You know?
So, so I leave my phone at home. I have a big team, right, two businesses, both like growing really fast. Yes, And I've already told my team last week. I said I'm completely unavailable Tuesday and Wednesday. And when I say completely unavailable, I mean if the whole thing burned down on Tuesday morning, I'd find out about it on Thursday morning.
I'm not kidding you.
Like in Communicado, so the amount of peace that you deliver yourself when you disconnect yourself from technology, it's unbelievable.
What I can tell you, having worked.
With thousands of entrepreneurs, is most people panic an hour into that disconnection, and that will show you the level of addiction people have to being connected. There was a time, dude, like you remember this. There was a time when we had the phone, not your phone, Like we had a phone on the wall that I remember. My mom got like an extra long cord for so we could like walk into the kitchen and still talk on the phone if we needed to. Well, when you went on a trip and you had the phone, you checked in, Like I remember calling my parents like two days into it, Hey I got here.
They didn't know where I was like to, you know, so it's like a collect call from I'm at Chevron.
Exactly.
Yeah, collected because we gave it all the time.
Bro, I was the only one that knew the collect call tricks.
So I grew up in that same time.
You know, I forgot about the collect call trick, that right, So true, fiver under you got to google what we just said because that's an old era.
Yeah, and we're not. I don't think we're too old, bro, We're I'm forty six now, so you know, just put I'm seventy seven, nineteen seventy seven. So I grew up. I grew up with Zelda, you know, Zelda video games and uh you know Donkey Kong and and now Halo and now call it Duty and now war games on the desert floor with my crew. You know, it's like we just took it to that level. So we grew up playing Capture the Flag, as the boy scouts like to call it. You don't call it steal the flag no more. It's capture the flag.
Do do Do Do Do Do Do Do doo?
Yeah ahead. Contra Arnold Swarzenegro Sevester Stallone savings the world from all his aliens, and Contra is a video games plas plas last plas plus. You know that's good man, It is, it is. I just want to see, you know, everybody have a good time in this life that I'm living. And you know, we can only be the best stewards of what we have. And if you are you know driven, you know, you're an F eighteen pilot, You've had things layered into you that you probably don't realize, but it just comes off of as organic from you from that type of training. You know, I really appreciate you putting yourself out there and being vulnerable to say, hey, these are the things that have worked for me. They're not possibly going to work for you, but you can give it a shot. You can look into it. You know. I see you have like a chart behind you, like the wisdom pyramid. It's like how much effort, how much wisdom, how much data reaction. It's all within us. And when I'm talking to my dad, it's really within me of those answers. You know. It's almost like when I talk to some Navy seal who goes and does maybe like mushrooms for PTSD or ayahuasca, what they wind up telling me is rad you have to go with it because everything that you're dealing with is already in you. It's all just you. This is already in here. It's just pulling it out. Like you said, what was it saying to her at that meeting? You know what was God saying? And He's like, you still are beautiful, you can still be loved, and you can still be one hundred percent successful, and you can put this behind you kind of thing like you or however you have to cope with your your traumatic stress. It's out there right. I'm a big believer in snowboarding. I like to snowboard three to five times a week, be outside in the mountains, be outside in the desert. I like to go swim. I like to go to the gym and hit boxing every day. Yeah, just something to keep myself from just going stagnant. My brain, my heart, you know, et cetera.
Yeah, So, frequency wise, Nature's a really good place to go if you want to experiment, especially if you want to experiment with with a conversation with God. And I always tell people that word I just use is the most important word. You are free to experiment, you know, Like you mentioned, you mentioned psilocybin. I haven't done any of the things that my buddy like MDMA the doat the frog molecule stuff I got all my entrepreneurial friends, and I will just tell you having not experienced that, but hearing everyone's story, Essentially, people are telling me the same thing that I already knew, which is there's a natural world and there's supernatural and the veil between those two is very thin. So like there's things that simply happened in the world that we simply can't explain. I believe, by the way, eventually science will explain those things. Like a mom who's trying to save her baby who listened to to our car up overhead and you're like, how is it even possible. You're like, well, it's not possible, but it is apparently possible. Right, So, like earlier day in the interview, I said something like it's supposed to be impossible, but apparently it was possible. Like every single thing that we thought was impossible, that sound barrier, which I broke about a thousand times or whatever, like we did it routinely.
We didn't even feel it half the time.
You didn't even know you went through what we call the number like going supersonic, and John Glenn's like, you know, in clamorous Glennis, it's it's just eventually the thing that's impossible becomes not just possible, but like routine. I mean, it becomes so routine that concord can fly three hundred people right back and forth right and hours. Yes, speed of light, same thing like people are like, you know, Einstein speed of light. It's like impossible. Bearas eventually, eventually, like every impossible thing, we always end up figuring out. And so there's healing methodologies. There's body frequencies, there's things that are coming down the pike. Once Farmer gets out of the way, we can put some of these things in place. And everybody who's had those experiences, those like psychedelic experiences or frankly, anyone has had the experiences that I've had. Like when you walk conversationally with God, as long as as I have, you see an experience some phenomenally crazy supernatural things.
I've seen people. I'm not exaggerating, dude.
I've seen people instantaneously healed from back problems, next problems, hand problem diseases, like literally in front of my eyes, to the point at which I was like, I don't even know what just happened there, dude, Like it's crazy, But there's something scientific, there's something metaphysical. There's somebody supernatural. The mind is so powerful, Like when the mind gets behind something, the body will often follow completely behind it. And if I don't understand it, that doesn't mean it's not possible. It just means I can't explain it, you know. And having that having that experimental being, being experimental, like I said, a very immature approach. Sometimes this is very black and white like like this is right and this is wrong, and this is right and this is wrong, and there's some right and wrong. I mean there is definitely some, like you know, be kind to people, love everyone, don't murder, don't steal, you know, like what they did to your shop that was wrong. Like there is some black and white there, but there's also a lot of room in this world for experimentation. That's why I always tell people, especially skeptics, like this book was written for skeptics, dude. It was written for people who've been hurt by religion, who have been separated, feel separated from God, who are skeptics. It's not like a it's not like a Christianity book with a lot of verses and songs and stuff inside of it is very practical, and I always tell people like just try it. Like the exercises are in the book. I created a series of seven audios and they're my gift to you. They're totally free. You put your headphones on for fifteen minutes, seven straight days and change your life. Like it's one thing to listen to an interview and be like, I don't know, I don't think that's true, And it's another thing just to be like, I don't know, let's try it. You know, it's worth an experimentation. If nothing happens, you know, you could be like, hey, one star review ed, but exactly you know what I'm saying, Like, it's okay, I can deal with it, dude, I've been shot at.
You can you can one star me if you want to. We can still be friends. You know, give it a shot and see what happened. Maybe it might be two stars. Okay, I mean I just see one star might get two stars. Something might make sense.
This world is great too, because no one ever writes threes. Threes are like the never you ever look at any book. So it's either got five and four stars and ones and some two, but there's never a three. It's such our world, like nobody in the middle, who's like, I don't know.
The paper just didn't feel right between yeah, yeah, yeah, I wouldn't. I have touched a book that felt really good though. I had a client that sent me a book and I was just like, this feels good. It was about like bare knuckle fighting, and it felt like knuckle fighting, you know, that kind of a thing. And still it's like wow. So I mean, you can just get three stars off the book.
Yeah, just three basically.
And also if you get any of its books, okay, and you read it and you have a review to leave, please leave a review at the place that you bought it, or you know, if you're online or really support local mom and pops, if they have his book on the shelf, you should snag on from them because they're putting their dime into his book in advance for you to believe that that book should be read by you, especially your local mom and pop neighborhood store. Support them, right Like Weller's here in Salt Lake City. He took it over from his parents who passed away, and he's like, I've got to keep the bookstore going. That's what Sam. I got to keep it going. That's his motto.
And if they don't have it on the shelf, they can order it, by the way, that things available everywhere.
So exactly, And do you ever have your book at an airport? Has that happened yet?
We're still we're still working with Hudson, by the way, So that's Hudson is the main bookseller across the airports and a little behind the scenes on publishing. So that's my six books. I'm very familiar with the publishing industry. Hudson has its own buying system, they have their own shelf stocking system. How you get listed on Hudson can be a pretty penny, by the way, on where you are in the bookstore.
So we're just working with them on location and placement. It'll be soon.
It'll be soon, but we're just don't wait to see you like on TikTok or Instagram, like like looking over your shoulder, like, this is my book and I'm signing it for you, right.
Yeah, right out there.
Yeah, so I could do that. I'm going to give you another secret. So I started today on the interview by telling you how to get out of tickets. I want to give you another secret. You can't tell anyone though, like watch the podcast delete it. Don't tell any when I told you the story. A friend of mine eleven twelve years ago told me about this and I've been doing it ever since. It's called reverse shoplifting. So if you're an author, oh, reverse shop So so just you know, black and white shoplifting is illegal, Like you can't walk into a store and take something out of the store that's not yours. But what you can do is you can leave something in the store for them. Okay, So so reverse shop if lifting works like this, like this is the book, right, yeah, this is the hardcover version of the book.
Right.
If I took this book in my backpack into Barnes and Noble or Hudson booksellers, which I've done, by the way, don't tell anyone, and you stick it right up there on the shelf like very prominently there, someone can buy it. Hudson keeps all the money, right, it's all there's like it's got a bar code. So and often what need to do is trigger a reorder, so they're like, oh, we're out of this book.
From downtown. He's going for three Oh oh like that. Your mom is a basketball coach and your dad is a ref so I'm going to use that analogy.
Bro, holy my buddy Craig does well tell me that story. So so yeah, I love I love reverse reverse shoplifting. It's totally legal. Uh, you will get trouble, you won't get troubled. All stick it right there prominently on the bookshelf. And often I'll reverse, like if I'm heading through the airport, like I'm transiting through like Chicago. Whatever, I'll reverse shoplift my book, take a picture of me and the book and then drop it.
I would be for that. I need to write a book just to do this. That's awesome company me. It's not me, it's not on the cover. I swear, I don't have that beard. That's not me. The other guy with the beard left it. Oh. Well, Ed, you have been a wonderful guest and I would like to just extend an open invite to you to come back. I haven't even cracked into this that I think it is a deep inside of you. Well you know what I mean. And and your books, you know, God Talks, Warrior, the Twenty one Day Miracle, take the shot. These books are already out everywhere. God Talks. Has that come out yet or is that going to be released?
I know, so God Talks is out there.
We just hit like a whole bunch of whole bunch of bestseller lists again, massive months, by the way, huge month this last month. Lots of media and stuff. That's the book to start with. Twenty one Day Miracle comes right behind that, and that that is a book about speed. So it is a book about how to accomplish a lot in a short period of time. I routinely do this in my life. It's strategic sprints, but I would start with God Talks. It's definitely my most in depth book. It's for sure the most fun. If you had a good time with this interview, like we were laughing, you know, I have a very light light approach to life, and there are a lot of stories, a lot of self face humor. You will laugh. It's a fun, funny book. There's a lot of good fighter pilot stories in it. Like I said, give it a shot, Like you have no idea, what's available to you on the other side of a simple conversation with God, there's transformation.
We cover a lot of different different areas.
The most common experience is somebody, first of all, feels a lot more purposeful. Second, a lot of times people break through money barriers. There's quite a few money barriers that happen sort of mentally. Quite often, someone gets a change to their body, maybe even wanting to lose weight, maybe put on some muscle, sleep a little bit better, feel more vital. All those things come through a rewired brain. Like the way you think about things affects every single thing in your life, and there's nothing better to retrain your mind than a simple conversation with Heaven that comes down to Earth and changes your life. So yeah, the website is god talks dot com. It's the easiest website to remember, God talks dot com. You can go there buy the book in any format that you want to. I'm very available and accessible, by the way, So if you connect me and read the book and tell me your story, if you send it in through any emails in the book, it will get to me.
By the way.
Eventually, it meant not come right away, but I love hearing your story. I'd love love to be able to connect with you. Thanks, by the way, Rad for the interview. Also thank you for the invite back. I had a blast. I love I like how I kind of like the interviews whereas free form and we get to laugh and tell stories and talk about Arnold Schwarzenegger and things like that.
I mean, I really enjoyed that because a lot of a lot of folks that I interviewed, they're like, rat I've I love this. This has been like one of the best things. It's almost like, well just want to hang out or like can your mom let you sleep over? Tonight. Let me get the phone. Let me go get the phone with the long cord to see if I can come over. You'll ed, can you come over? Okay? I met chevron. Click.
That's good. That's good, it's good.
I should come up and go go shooting with you with with one of these uh, with one of your paintball paintball.
Airsoft, airsoft. I got a.
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Nah, you'd be surprised, you know. Yeah, a lot of guys see it's great because the air Force wants to be infantry, and the infantry want to be the air Force outside of a military air Force base. I got all these guys in like is this where I could put boots on and maybe hunt somebody? And I'm like, come to me, Come to me, you know. So if you want to go get in the trenches or fragg a grenade or you know, shoulder to shoulder. We're not here to mop up your tears, just your blood. So if you're going to show up, don't cry about it. Like if you get shot by a nine year old, take it all right, give them a high five. Say you're on my team next time, kid, I tell you man, I'm very passionate about it. I love war games and I've been doing it for twenty years at this level, let alone growing up through my father and his team and just being around the whole environment and just going on their normal hikes up the mountains where we lived with like ten twelve guys all in plaid and Levi's and like belt buckles and stuff. It's a whole a team though, And they never once said, why's little radal? Why is little air in ten year old repelling off of waterfalls with us up here on our fun little time off and stuff. So I'm really blessed to have grown up in that life. And now I get to talk to guys like yourself and you know, here we are, bro, It's just a great time. Yeah. I gotta say thanks to Brandon Webb who runs this website and he gives me the opportunity to talk to the ed Rushes of the world and you know, be able to bring their stories to our platform, which you can find everywhere soft rep Radio. Soft rep dot com is the main resource. You can also go to all platforms like iTunes, Spotify, SoundCloud, and if you want to listen to me more in a book format, you can go check out I read Cold Fear and Steel Fear, which is the Finn. I am Finchief Finn Navy seal and all the other characters in the book. By the way, hey, you know what that's like, huh? Sitting in a thing for eight hours reading every single character in a book in finish in Iceland. I loved it. Thank you for leaving comments and ed On behalf of god Talks dot com and your book. I want to say thanks for hitting us up to be on the show and again you are invited to be back. Yes and to my us again. Check out soft reap dot com, Forward slash Book, hyphen Club, and also the loadoutroom dot com. I'm gonna be putting up stuff on the loadoutroom dot com. You'll see that start to pop off. Go check it out, give a like and subscribe Colmic down below. Find me on the internet. My name is rad On, behalf of ed saying peace.
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