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And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson. It is a blustery Monday here.
Yeah, it was a wendy walk on in here.
What it's always a windy walker, but there's wendy everywhere else around here today as well. I don't know what's blowing up from where.
But it's just marching in the Burg. I assume it is.
Marching into the Burg and we are marching. Well, it's March twenty fourth, so we're getting closer.
And closer, thirty days away something like that.
Something like that draft is right around the corner, right around the corner.
Which means there's this lull before the storm too. A little bit, yeah, a little bit.
So I did a little research over the weekend and some I did some research as well on in the comment section on YouTube and looking into what we talked about early last week.
Yeah, this is interesting to me with how difficult.
It is to replace a true Hall of Fame franchise legend quarterback, and so I looked up, the guy either has to be in the Hall of Fame already or is going to be in the Hall of Fame. So like Breeze and Brady qualify, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, I didn't do like Eli Manning or they didn't get in first try, So it's not a slam dunk, right. I also went two thousand and on basically.
Because part Star and Brad John.
Yeah. And I did that because, for example, when the forty nine ers moved on from from Joe Montana, they won, it was pre free agency. Yeah, and so Steve Young was on their roster and he wasn't He wasn't going anywhere. You could sit on Steve Young for five years.
I mean, to their credit though, they sent a Bucks the first round pick with the foresight, foresight to think that through. But that's obviously a really weird situation too, And you probably couldn't couldn't.
You couldn't do that today They'd both be fifty million dollars player. You just you just couldn't do it in today's game.
I would just say free agency might be my line of demarcation too.
I looked at it that way, and I thought, you know, that's.
I forget what year it started.
Okay, my first year covering the league was the first yeatcha true free agency Okay. Uh so I looked at the Broncos post John Elway.
And then they even had a guy in place. They had Maddox.
Well, no, they had moved on from Tommy Maddox because Elway wouldn't talk to him.
Okay, Maddox was drafted when matt When Elway retired, Maddox wasn't.
There to The replacement was Brian Greasy.
Okay, second round pick, though, I'm just trying to think how these teams prepared. At least they had the idea in mind with the Maddox pick.
Now, remember they won two super back to back Super Bowls with Elway.
And he wasn't. I think he's one of the most underrated players in NFL history, not because of those two, because he went to three with I bet these two younger pups couldn't name you a whole lot of Broncos on that Lway team. People are like the three Amigos. I'm like, Bok, name the three Amigos. They're not three amigos. It was not for Lway, you know what I mean. There's like Carl Mecklenberg, but they're not loaded with.
Hall of famers Martin short.
Dancing, singing bush and.
So six and ten, eleven and five, eight eight.
He left a good team, though he left a good team eight a super Bowl team, right who should be in the Hall of Fame.
Shanahan was still the head coach section ten, eleven and five, eight and eight, So twenty five and twenty three with Brian Greasie as your quarterback, and he wasn't a terrible player, Yeah, he wasn't Lway, but Miami posts Marino. This actually looks pretty good.
But I'm trying to think what those teams look like.
Eleven and five, eleven and five, nine and seven that was coming off to Jimmy Johnson years.
Oh okay, so Johnson and Marino overlap.
That wasn't a shit retire Johnson basically retired when Marine or left when when Marino retired? Maybe smart Lee because this was Dave wan stat at this point. So eleven and five, eleven and five, nine and seven, they did win a playoff game. They went thirty one and seventeen won a playoff game. Jay Fiedler starter Mitchell had got traded beat the Colts in overtime in two thousand. Wow, they haven't won a playoff game since since, right, I mean they have not won a playoff game since two thousand. We're talking about the Miami freaking Dolphins.
Yeah, their search for the next Marino is still ongoing though, the Miami Dolphins.
This is one of the corners, the Broncos and Dolphins. If you're looking at the hierarchy of the the AFC, the Steelers, Broncos, and Dolphins and Raiders where.
The cornerstone right even before Lway, Yeah, before Marina, they.
Were the four cornerstones of the AFC for a long, long, long time.
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. And Denver and Miami have not had a lot of playoff success lately, at least.
The forty nine Ers post Steve Young. Okay, now I remember they I couldn't go with with with Montana because he was based.
Really a strange situation on that one.
So they went six and ten, twelve and four, ten and six. Okay, so they went twenty eight and twenty. They did of a playoff when they beat the Giants thirty nine thirty eight in two thousand and one, but then went nine consecutive seasons without a winning record.
I said, then there's a lot of barren time.
Without a winning record. Yeah, almost a decade.
I'm sure you're way more tuned into this, But I mean, like Miami's a good example, or Elway is a real good example of these guys retire kind of on top when they've a good team. Or they wouldn't have come back for the last year if they didn't have a pretty good team. So maybe caretaker quarterback wins your ten games the next year and then the bottom falls in the bottom. Yeah, and there's no one waiting then.
Wings Dallas after Troy Aikman, I bet this is bad. Five and eleven, five and eleven, ten and six, twenty and twenty eight with no playoff wins. They did have the one appearance when they went ten and six, but they didn't win a game.
And their playoff success since isn't good, not great? Yeah, right, who's that quarterback? Oh you're talking about Quincy Wilson. Yeah, okay, I mean there.
Was a myriad of guys in there, right, I mean they were running every everybody and anybody out there.
That's a team too, that has not used high picks on quarterbacks since Aikman at all. Yeah, you know.
Brett Favre in Green Bay. Oh hands to Rogers six and ten the first season after going thirteen and three in farvs. Last year.
Wow, so it was a good team.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they went six and ten, then eleven and five. I've lost to the Colts or the Cardinals in the wild card game fifty one forty five, I remember that game. Yeah yeah, and then went ten and six and won the Super Bowl.
Okay, but Rogers was not an instant success. No, he was six and ten. Yeah, I mean his first year starter. Guy, he was first round pickweight in the wings. But he wasn't like MVP. They make the right decision, yeah right, right right, Okay. Interesting the Cardinals post Kurt Warner, Remember he can't be good. He had four starting seasons there. They took he took him to a super Bowl. Yeah yeah, I mean he was pro bowler like every year. He was a really good player for them. I think he goes to the Hall of Fame without the cardinal part.
Right, yeah, that was that was the part to put him over the top. Five and eleven, eight and eight, five and eleven, thirty with no playoff.
I just know the Larry Fitzgerald, the quarterbacks, Kevin Cobb, Skelton. Yeah. I mean it's really bad for a long stretch, rightly until Kyla.
And the reason I only did three seasons with these guys is because it's been three years since Ben.
Oh Steelers three years yeaheah, you have three years to.
The Broncos post Peyton Manning. I didn't include. I didn't include the Colts post Manning because if you remember his last year, there was a really weird one. He didn't play at all.
He was for people who don't remember, I don't know if he was injured in Week one or in the off season. It was the off season was albit and neck. Yeah, I mean it was. He didn't play. They thought his career might be over.
He didn't play it down that year, and.
To show how bad they were without him, they earned the first over we got the first overall pick and got locked. They were horrible, I mean without Manning.
So I didn't I didn't include that in it because really his.
But realistically you should include that season, which was like wow, wins or whatever. It was first pick of the draft. Bad.
So the Broncos post Manning and again they had just won the Super Bowl. They had one of the best defenses in the league.
No, they had great defense. I mean Manning did not win them the Super Bowl. It was the defense Devan.
Miller and nine and seven, five and eleven, six and ten. Wow, twenty and twenty eight. Last year was in this That was twenty fifteen that he retired. Last year was their first playoff appearance. They've since Mann retired.
Yeah, playoffless seasons right.
The Saints post Drew Brees. They were twelve and four in his last season, won a playoff game. Yeah, I think they won a playoff game nine and eight, seven and ten, nine and eight, twenty five and twenty six no playoff appearances.
Wow, and really max out there. I mean they're a weird bill too, Like they maxed their credit cards out then, but then kept trying to keep winning, winning, winning, winning, And it's slowly just yea down the toilet.
The Patriots post Brady, this is bad. Seven and nine, ten and seven, eight and nine. Remember I only did three years. The last couple of years have been really bad. Really, your seven and nine, ten and seven, eight and nine are with the guy that everybody says is the greatest coach of all time, of all time, right, right, right, and you had to and they were really good teams too. Yeah, it made it deep again. They went twelve and four Brady's last year.
I say Belichick's last two years. I thought they would have correlated with that. Must not have were real bad. I mean, Belichick's last two years were.
Horrible, twenty five and twenty five, no playoff wins. They did make one playoff appearance with in mac Jones rookie year.
Okay, yeah, he was kind of a Hakamadi there for a while for one season.
The Bucks post Brady, now that's only been two seasons, but they've gone nine and eight and ten and seven, nineteen and fifteen. They did win a playoff game. They beat the shell of the Eagles last year.
Yeah. Yeah, but they've been good. They've been good.
I'm impressed with that again, nine and eight and ten and seven, right. The Steelers post Ben nine and eight, ten and seven, ten and seven, twenty nine and twenty two. Two playoff appearances. Again, no wins. We know that, right, We know that well aware. But it stacks up as well as any of the others. Twenty nine and twenty two into three years without your franchise quarterback. And oh, by the way, you've started what five different guys.
I know you didn't do elive, but I bet they are like three wins, four wins, five. I mean they were miserable even at the end and haven't been good since. But Ryan's been bad.
The funny thing was looking at some of the guys that some of these teams turned to, Oh, that's got Quincy Carters and yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's yeah.
I mean, not many of them went to Russell Wilson or brand name guys. You know, let alone had a real good succession plan in place. Either it's hard, it's real, you know, and this is what we want to hold on to the end of the breeze. I mean, I can't harp on enough. I mean, the last time the Saints use the first round pick on a quarterback was Archie Manning.
Yeah, so that the two thousand and one Cowboys.
They go along stretch without taking quarterbacks.
To They started four different guys at quarterback that year the year after Akman, and they.
Still hat Irvin and Emmett and Quincy Carter. Bad off. I mean, a really tough offensive line, and you know that was still a good team.
Quincy Carter, Anthony Wright, Ryan Leaf, Clinton, Stoner Nice. They all started at least two games that year. Wow, Ryan Leaf, Ryan leaf Man. The next season in two thousand and two was Chad Hutchinson and Quincy Carter. So they had drafted Hutchinson, but he was like, what a twenty eight year old?
Yeah, he was overaged rookie year.
Yeah. And then the following season it was Quincy Carter the whole way.
Quincy Carter's the second round pick that they kind of had hope for.
Yeah, seventeen touchdown passes, twenty one interceptions, Like I.
Urge people to go check out, like the Falcons after they drafted Matt Ryan and the Cowboys after they drafted Aikman. The quarterbacks they invested in for like fifteen years, there's none, I mean before until they get the Penix in Atlanta. It's like a seventh round throwaway pick. It's nothing that Dallas is kind of the same way. I mean, just totally ignored the position.
And I get it. I mean, you're trying to win and win as many games as possible while you have your franchise.
I right, and knows. Some of the logic is, well, if our guy gets hurt, we're well the man in Colts. If our guy gets hurt, we're gonna be terrible.
Anyways, Yeah, you know, there is no just so happened for the Colts.
It worked.
It actually worked out semi well for them, not in the long run, but Manning went down in the year. You have the generational talent right right that anyone would have picked lot if that have happened the previous year. That was the two thousand and twelve draft.
Is that like the EJ manual is the first guy off the board draft? Yeah, you're picking first without a.
Quarterbacking, Yeah, picking first and there's no quarterback worth taking.
You may ended up with luck again the next year. Yeah, because you've been so bad. Wow. And again those were good teams. They still had Harrison and Wayne and A right, Yeah, hall over the place, Glen Saturday. I mean, they were pretty well in place.
But so when people talk about the Steelers A having no succession plan in place, b oh, they're in a quarterback wasteland right now. Welcome to the club.
Yeah, yeah, and he had it really good for a while.
This is what it's like when you don't have that guy and you keep trying to get that guy until you get one.
I mean, it's just kind of how the world works. It's how sports works. Like if the Chiefs start to fall off a cliff, no one's gonna cry for the chief Now, when the Patriots fell off a cliff, no one's boohooing about that. You know, Like Mahomes he's thirty now, right, Yeah, I would say, yeah, yeah.
He could decide. Let's say he plays two more years.
Maybe does see Andrew Luck thing and says, I've done enough. I've done enough.
I got a bunch of young kids at home now I just want to go do that. I've got plenty of money in the bank.
Oh yeah, I'm good. Probably gonna go bad.
It's gonna go bad.
It's gonna go real bad. Yeah.
I mean, besides, when Andy Reid's retires, I'm done. I don't want to I don't want to play for another coach.
I can't talk enough about the Luck situation too. Like I don't know if Luck would ended up in the Hall of.
Fame, but I do believe onret he really was. When the day he retired he was a top three quarterback. I mean he was behind Brady maybe, and he was not Mahomes. But I mean it'd be like at Burrough retired today and he retired like not even this time of year was after the draft. And they've been pretty bad since, you know what I mean, they've been looking, They've been searching like crazy, Matt Ryan, Rivers and now Richardson. I mean, like you talk about retreads and not having a plan. How could you have a plan?
Yeah?
The one thing that the Steelers haven't done yet, and I say yet. Yes, they drafted Kenny Pickett, but he was the twentieth pick in the draft.
That's different thing.
They didn't go up and get a top ten. They didn't trade up to go get Anthony Richardson.
We love this dude. We're gonna put all of our eggs in that basket. Right.
They weren't the forty nine ers and said we're going to trade up and go get Trey Lance right right, the rock Purty falls into their lap like they haven't taken that swing at this yet.
No, and I don't think it'll happen this year. No, who knows about a year from now. I mean I don't think it's something there against.
No, I don't know. They're certainly not against it, right right. And I think that's why when we talk about the compensatory picks that they've collected this offseason, doesn't mean that you have to use them necessarily next year.
And I'm sure that there's quarterbacks that they really liked that didn't turn out to be great ones. But I know for a fact, and you know for a fact they were really high in Ma Hoomes, they were really high on Lamar.
But they like Dak Prescott the year he came, h Yeah, and had meetings with him and looked at him. Okay, he's a third round guy, and then he gets a duy. Yeah, if everything happens and he bump them down around, the Cowboys take him instead.
Yeah. There's a lot of that kind of stuff too. So I don't know that that's didn't have.
To love a guy in the draft right right, doesn't mean that you can get him.
The Packers approach is just so weird, like the Colts manning the luck thing fell on their lap. That's Tim Duncan falling to you whenever.
Year and it took a catastrophic injury.
I took a catastrophic injury right where Rogers and we talked about this last week. I don't think they had any attention to taking Rogers. He was just sitting there in the green room forever. And it's like we didn't plan on going quarterback year. They didn't trade up for them, you know.
So I I I in that regard. I do get the Steelers taking swings with the guys that they're taking swings with. All right, you bring in you bring in Russell Wilson last you drafted Kenny Pickett that didn't work out. You bring in Russell Wilson last year, future Hall of Fame guy, and say, okay, let's see what this looks like. Maybe you didn't like it. There were maybe personality classes. There weren't tons of options.
That's the this year.
If you decide, okay, we're gonna try this, it's not.
A rolodex of well, we'll just call it my homes, we'll callout you know.
Right, we're gonna try this approach this year. We're gonna sign Aaron Rodgers and see what that looks like.
So an example I wanted to bring up two is Stafford not him necessarily going from Detroit. That was kind of a win win for everybody. But I have a lot of respect for the Rams organization. I think McVeigh is one of the absolute best coaches in the league. I think they're head above the rest of their division right now after DeVante Adams. But they have no plan in place at all for life after Stafford and they're not gonna take one in the first round this year or I mean, like when he retires, everyone's gonna be like, well, they had no plan to play. I mean they have, They've ignored it completely. And there's a lot of teams like that, you know, And I think he's a Hall of Fame.
Well, it's hard with the way the contracts are now structured for these young guys, you know, not.
How much longer he's gonna play.
Look at look at the situation that the Packers had with Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love. Jordan Love sat behind Aaron Rodgers his first two years. They then decide to move on from Rogers and trade him to New York. Well, now you're you're putting it.
You can't pick up a fifty year option.
You're you're putting You're putting Love in there and you're saying, Okay, they had to give them basically a new contract.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they didn't. They they did. I mean that was a really weird conversation too, because we're going to extend you give you give out a contract that really doesn't exist in the league. But you've never played. We've seen in the preseason practice, right, and we know Aaron's getting older.
One game against Kansas City, then yeah, it wasn't great.
It wasn't great, right, And it's worked out for the most part. I don't think they're I think they made the right choice. And they got picks for Rogers too. They didn't just let them walk for nothing. But that was put up a shut up. Now, if you draft one the first round, you can't just sit around. Yeah, you know. I mean, if the it sounds weird, but what if the Steelers would have taken Lamar and Mahomes They'd been sitting around a long time. Doesn't matter how good they are, they're not going to beat up Ben. Yeah, you know, And you.
People need to understand that the Steelers weren't going to trade Ben unless unless Ben wanted to go.
Sure, sure, you.
Know, if Ben had decided, like I want to go play my last year wherever. But the thing was, he's coming off an elbow.
In the elbow injury, right, which happens to older players.
If he didn't have the elbow injury, and after the twenty twenty season says, well, I want to go play somewhere else. Okay, he's got value, maybe you could trade him. It's to the Jets, right, But coming off that, you know, the elbow injury, you're not going to trade Ben Roethlisberger for a fifth round pick.
Right, right, right, that doesn't make you better. And he's older and he's expensive, and you know who's trading for a guy come off elbow injury at his age?
He won, you know, he won two Super Bowls with the guy. There is some loyalty there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And they are human beings. It's not fantasy football, right. And you have a locker room that's played with this dude and won a lot, and they're like, you're gonna give me a third round pick and not him? You know, that's what we're going to try to win with us here. Yeah. It's tough, it is tough.
It's again, it's it's it's no man's land in football. Yeah, when you don't have the franchise quarterback doesn't mean you can't still win, sure, but it is more difficult.
I bet if you wasn't even back further. I mean, like obviously, the Steelers past Bradshaw's not much better. It's not better worse. I mean, Steelers post Ben is better than Steelers post Bradshaw. Yeah, I mean clearly.
Yeah, And the Steelers post Bradshaw had a plan draft. They drafted Mark Malone in the first round, first.
Round, right just around on a super Bowl type team and not do anything.
He had the longest touchdown reception wide receiver. Yeah, playing wide receiver because he was at you know, that kind of athlete.
I wonder those seventy teams though, like post Well Grease, he kind of went to Marino post Stabler couldn't have been It was actually pretty good. Stabler would have been good because they had Plunket and those guys.
You could Yeah, Jim Plunket was the number one overall pick in the in the draft.
But the thing is back to the original point.
You could stash a guy, and you know, the Cowboys went to Danny White. Well, Danny White had been on their roster back up and you know, yeah, because you just could and the.
Key back to the original point though, like mil One's taken Art Shell and Gene Upshaw off the Raiders because Stabler retired, right because there's no cap and there's no you know, he's still those guy were a great team.
They couldn't move, they couldn't go anywhere else, no, right, which is why I didn't even look at that era.
Right, that makes sense. I mean, it happens that the Steelers lost their super Steelers kind of the same time Bradshaw did. But with all respect to Terry, if he hangs, if he gets hurt in seventy eight or seventy nine and you stick somebody else in there, Danny White, they're probably a contentment.
Yeah, I mean they're they're are gonna be pretty good.
They're gonna be good, right yeah, right, It's not like so there's not a one hundred million dollars Mahomes investment.
They one game to right crew check, Yeah, yeah.
Right, right right, I mean they were gonna be good.
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You get that.
Yeah, there's some names on there that are sort of interesting. That's what I wanted to roll through this and see. Yeah, if there would be anybody that might pick your interest.
And I'm sure there's a couple that they're just reaching them really you get on their right, you know.
For the Cardinals it's Jonan Williams.
I think they could draft their line. He's a free agent after this year too. He doesn't interest me, but some team should. Twenty seven yea, yeah, yeah, for twenty seven.
Yeah, the Falcons, it's Kyle Pitts.
That's what I wanted to bring up. My vote would be no, don't get me wrong, but there's an obvious Arthur Smith connection. He's had injuries. What's weird about Pitts is and Bowers doesn't have this problem. But teams now just look at Pitts like he's a wide receiver, which is what he is. Which is what he is. I mean, so whenever they do well eleven personnel, twelve personnel, we're going to be in this formation. They just count him as a wide out and compared to wide outs. He's big and he can run, but he's not just Jefferson. He's not gonna beat you without routes. He's not Antonio Brown, you know what I mean. Like, you have to have some tight end to get the matchups against linebackers and safeties everybody wants. If they just put you know, Patrick Stain on you, well, he's not getting open. I'm curious if they do move him though.
For the Ravens it's a Dafeoway see up after this year, I believe.
So, Yeah, that would make some sense. I would think that would be if you draft. I just don't know what he's worth. Yeah, he played pretty well last year. I think he's coming around, but I don't know if they even moved him.
Yeah, he's's twenty six years old. They're going to make a decision on him. They don't have the other dudes are getting a little older.
Yeah. Yeah, that's a potential first round pick for them as an edge guy.
Uh. For the Bills, well, they just kind of re upped his contract here, Matt Mulano. They're not going to trade him.
No, I don't even know who on that. There must not be any good candidates on that.
An offensive lineman or something, or a defensive line you can move. But maybe for the Panthers, it's interior offensive lineman Caid May's.
They're gonna get a whole lot for Cad May and I don't think so either.
For the Bears, it's Andrew Billings.
Okay, I mean a different style defense. I mean he's a nose, it's been around the block. Basically, you're not gonna get a lot for him. No.
For the Bengals, it's obviously Trey Hendrickson.
You think he goes or not?
No, you think they just waited out on him and make a mad and yeah, eventually end up signing him to some.
Kind of deal. Yeah, I mean that's the best chance. They don't have any cap space, but no, they don't. But he also does not have any leverage. I mean he's under contract for this year. Yeah, he could sit out. He could, he could.
Come back in Week eleven or whatever week it is and play out the string for the Browns. It's Greg Newsome and.
He's up after this year, and they just have a lot of future cap issues. If they're not going to resign resign him, I mean, I think he might get something in return. He's been miscast a little bit, forced to play a lot of slot, yeah, because they kind of have three outside dudes. But he's done it well. Yeah, he's good play.
He hits a free agent market, he'll make money for the Cowboys. Michaeh Parsons.
Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's gonna happen. I don't think it will either. It's just he's gonna want the most money of any of these dudes. He's want more than Chase, more than Garrett, which if I was his agent, I have a really strong case I deserve it. Dallas. I don't know how. I hate to say this because every team's different, but they don't seem super interested in winning lately. I mean, they don't they invest in their.
Own whether there's no pressure on the GM at all.
No, right, because he owns a team and they make more money than any team in the league, and why change what they're doing. But they'd be a really frustrating team to root for right now.
This next guy would be someone I would be interested in if I were the Steelers. Denver Bronco's John Franklin Myers.
Ah quality veteran, knows what he's going to get. They're kind of in it to win it, though. I mean, I think Denver is in a different place than they were a year ago, like when they were talking about it.
They're not going to extend him though.
They're not going to extend them. Zach Allen's really good. They'll probably draft. They don't have a ton of needs either. They should draft something in this D line pool. It'd be a good sealer though. Yeah. How old maybe even little you see here?
Uh he is twenty eight?
Wow, Okay, it'd be useful. I mean rotational piece. Yeah, different style, but probably play as many snaps as Ogan Jobi did or something like that. Yeah. Uh.
For the Lions of Meek robertson the cornerback.
They've drafted too high and they signed one the signers, so yeah, it's getting pretty crowded.
For the Packers, it's Romeo Dobbs I.
Think that's legit. Yeah, he's kind of stuck there.
Although what could be out The Watson could be out for the year, so you probably don't move.
Dobbs and Wicks has been Maybe they trade Wicks he has dropped problems. Yeah. Yeah. Uh.
For the Texans safety Jalen Petree, I don't get that one. Yeah, I don't either, don't.
I know he was injured quite a bit last year, but I thought he was a big fan. I thought they were big fans.
They did just trade for C. J. Gardner Johnson.
Yeah.
Kind of redundant they are.
They are the slot safety, do it all types. I just think if Petri was on the open market, he'd get a lot of money. Yeah, he would get paid. He wouldn't get haul into money, but he'd be the next year mow Rig money.
Uh. For the Colts wide receiver Alec Pierce, I wonder.
If they trade Pittman too, that he makes some money.
I don't know what the contract details are, but.
This is interesting. I mean pitching Pierce and Mitchell were kind of redundant. Yeah, Mitchell was forced to do a lot of slot stuff, but down the last guy. Yeah, I mean Pittman was really hurt a lot last year too. They do have an extra outside guy.
Yeah, for the Jaguars running back Travis Atn.
I think you can get him cheap. He's been kind of been rumored for a while.
Yeah, and believe it or not, people, Naji Harris has been has been a better professional football player than Travis Atm. I got killed Friday for I ripped nausea. I wasn't ripping nause I was making a comment on something he said. He was a good football player for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, and he was a valued football player. He was the best running back to come out of that draft. And it's not even close.
Yeah. I can't think he was there after Atn and Williams, but they were the top three he had. Don't remember he.
Has Like I looked it up, but two months ago nag Harris had like twelve hundred more rushing yards than any other player in that draft. He has like the third most catches or something like his most touchdowns. Like, it wasn't even close. He was the back to take in that draft.
I mean he is. He's near the top of the list of rushing yards since he's been in the league. Yeah, I mean, including McCaffrey and Henry and a lot of it's durability. I made it's a reliable but there was an argument. Was it last two years ago when at n got off to a hot start? Oh he's the better back to nause He can't stay healthy and he can't. They don't trust him. I think you can get it for a fifth round pick, and they'd be happy just to go Bigsby in the third round pick this year.
Yeah, you know, uh for the Kansas City.
Cheese also not good in protection right things. People don't think about it. Yeah, Nausey doesn't fumble and you.
Know, cornerback Jalen Watson, Okay.
I assume he's up after this year. Why they move on? Not that he's great, but they've had they've had some revolving doors at the corner position. They have a lot more needs than people think though, Like they're dtackles next to Chris Jones are really rough. We know about the O line stuff. I would draft the tight end soon. If not, you talk about succession plans. You know they got a lot of need. I think we trading guys away for the Raiders.
It's tight end. Michael Mayer he's been out there.
I mean, I think somebody would give you something decent for him. I know we've got I would have to know.
Remember he missed a large chunk of last year for Shawn personal reasons. I would have to know reasons. Yeah, what those personal? I mean, did somebody and his family die?
If that's the.
Case, Okay, I you know, I get it, Sure, Sure if it was something beyond that, I don't know.
The psychological issues. Does he have something? I mean, who knows? It could be a thousand different things. Is he I'm not trying to spread rumors. No, he might be a drug addict. He might be I mean, he could be anything.
Any number of things. I don't know what they are. But I would have to delve into that a lot, a lot deeply to know exactly what.
He lose interest in the game. I don't know. I mean, I'm throwing things out there.
Because they drafted Brock Bauers. Sure, I don't know.
I don't know. I know that. I'm sure Dallas Goddard is the Eagles one. But those are legit tight ends. Yeah, somebody could use, you know, right.
For the Chargers, it's guard Zion Johnson.
Well, they signed Beckton.
Now they got They brought in Andre James as well. Yeah, they still have Bradley Boseman and Trey Pipkins.
There was talk that they were going to try to make Zion a center this year. Well that's I don't know that will happen. Now Bozeman's a center. It's not great interior line, but beck Then's going to start, and all of a sudden it got kind of crowded. Yeah, no, it's fifty year option time. Yeah, someone should throw something in their way, Cowboys or somebody like that.
For the Chargers, it's safety Cam Curl.
He's only been there a year, I think, and some of their younger I should know their secondary better. But they landed some guys in the late.
Kinchins round won the third round pick last year.
Some of their later picks hit for defensive backs that weren't huge names. Yeah, you can get safeties deeper into a draft. Well, I bet they don't want to. They're gonna invest in Irwin, They're not going to invest in both.
For the Dolphins, it's Tyreek Hill.
That's cool down, but I bet you could pry him away.
For the Vikings, it's defensive lineman Harrison Phillips.
He's more of the run stopper than the two guys they signed, but they're all like the same age. Yeah, that's a little redundant in terms of just team building.
Now, Harrison Phillips is twenty nine.
Is that much different than Alan or Hargrave though, Harve that Yeah, okay, that's pretty decent. Buck on three guys.
Yeah, I mean I would have some interest in here. Yeah.
Yeah, he can still stop the run in old man strength.
Yeah. For the Patriots, it is linebacker Juwan Bentley.
Yeah, between the tackle thumper.
They signed Splane. They added Jack Gibbons.
The new scheme to Belichick. I mean, he's a Belichick guy, and he's kind of the Land and Roberts.
They extended Johnnie Ty like okay, yeah, yeah, you're only going to keep a certain number there obviously, so of an need.
I wonder how many of these names are actual, like June first couple right.
For the Saints, it's linebacker to Mario Davis.
I mean you want from those Saints. I mean you could get car I don't know if you can get a Lave and anyone's been drafted in the last two years.
I just can't imagine anybody's trading for thirty six year old to Mario Davis, right.
I mean to me, that might be like a trade deadline deal that Fred Warner gets hurt and we need a guy to rent for the rest of the year, or something like that.
For the Giants, it's caveon Thibodeau.
Especially if Abdol Carter's sitting there at three and they don't go Sanders. I think it's his fifth year option time, which it is, I would think they pick up. But it's not a slam dunk. He's a good player.
But he's not what everybody thought he was going to be.
No, but if you were like the Lions or a contender, I might throw you a fourth I get it done. I don't know.
I don't know. For the Jets, it's guard Elijah Vera Tucker.
That's an odd one too, because they're lying. He just hasn't been He's probably their best line hasn't been healthy. He can play four positions, but his fifty year option time, how about that one. I mean, I'm thinking about Ciamalohu's replacement a year from now. I mean, he you wouldn't trade for him, not to start him this year, right, I mean, that might make Isaac one of your trade candidates, but a lot of that would be my medical staff.
Yeah, he's a good player, have to check it out. As you mentioned. For the Eagles, it was Dallas Goddard. For the Steelers, it's George Pickens. Yeah, I can't imagine him doing that at this point.
I'd lean towards no as well, but he would be the name. I mean, if you got to put someone out there, I don't know who else would even qualify.
For the forty nine Ers, it's Brandon Ayuk, which makes no sense whatsoever since they just gave him money.
It is, I think his injury is pretty substantial.
Well, if that's the case, then you can't trade him.
That's the thing. He's been rumored to the Browns, which I don't know how they would pull that off, but I think they're taking a step back and they're going to go Pierce all and Johnson who they like, Jennings or Johnson Jennings Jennings Yeah, yeah, yeah, And but that's so goofy.
That would be the dumbest thing ever. You just gave him a huge signing bonet, all right, You.
Probably could have got a first round pick a year ago. Now you get a third. Yeah, I mean at most.
And you got to eat the contract, the signing bonus. Mean, yeah, it's nuts. I mean, if you were to move pickings, I'd consider trading for Ayuk. But what what's his hell? Yeah?
I have no idea.
What the hell situation is he toward the Aco in week seven?
Contractually? The new team's in pretty good shape with him. Yeah, the old team's in really bad sha.
For the Seahawks, it's boy A mafe Hm.
I guess he's getting to that contract time. Wasn't drafted by this group. It's a good player though, Yeah, I had a good year. He's starting to come into his own.
For the Buccaneers, it's for shab White.
Yeah, you can get him for a song and a dance. Yeah, he's cheaper than ATM. They love the other guy, Irving, and you could draft in the mid rounds and be fine.
For the Titans, it's safety of money, hooker.
I wonder if there's more on that list.
Oh there's more for this Titans list for sure.
Could you price Simmons away, you know, like real dude, Yeah, I don't think of the I mean you could get like Trailon Burks for a bag of football's, but I mean the rest of the offense, you can't be trading because you're trying to build the warden nest. You can't get Ridley.
But I wonder if you get Simmons for the Commanders. Is Brian Robinson Jr.
I think he's just a guy. Yeah, I'd rather draft past him, you know, without a doubt. Yeah, I mean Eckler doesn't really matter in that equation, but you can get something for Robinson.
Sure, that's the list interesting guys.
There's twenty other names that are going to get camped that are you know, that are floating around out there. So if you're real into this, folks, just go to every team I guess it's on spot track or over the cap, just who are expiring contracts, and especially after the draft when they draft someone at that position, you can I get that he might.
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Oh yeah, he's a big time contributor. Yes, and we appreciate Joey does a good job on the saw this I need to click on it, but okay, coach me up on this please. All right. So every he's a regular occurrent.
Every March, he does his his Pittsburgh media madness.
Yeah. The bracket, right, the bracket.
Okay, so in the three Rivers Stadium bracket.
There's four quadrants like this.
Yeah, we are in the I believe the South Hills three of our stadium bracket. Yeah, all right, you're the You're the fore seed. He goes by Twitter followers. However many followers you have on the x Twitter?
Really?
Okay? For your seeding purposes, I got you? Is there really sixty four names on this thing total? Yeah? Wow? Okay, four seed among sixty four let's go pretty strong.
You're the four seed. On the five seed in the same bracket.
They should not put us in the same bracket. So right now we are du toward a meeting in the around the thirty two here, okay, with one of us guaranteed to make the Sweet sixteen. Wow, that's pretty cool. I think I lost to Missy Matthews last year.
It's all about who you get in the in the matchups.
You're right, right, It's all about the matchups too. Yeah, I had no chance against Missy. I mean, leow me out of the water. Yeah, who do we gotta beat to get there?
So right, you're you are matched up against Dan ken Gerski right now, I'm not familiar.
With this, but I hope I'm favored. I mean, maybe he's a swell dude.
I mean it's a four to thirteen game.
You should be I should win that game, right right.
You're barely holding on though right now he.
Might have to spread the word use a Twitter follower point to.
Forty seven point nine percent. It's a tight match up here.
Joey tagged me again. I need to spread the word. I can't lose it to a thirteen seed. I'm sure Dan's a swell dude, but I gotta win that game. I'm in the media battlin.
I'm in the five to twelve game here against Mike Buckevin, okay, and I'm up a sixty six point five percent to thirty three point five percent.
What's the rest of our bracket look like? Well?
Who are the teams to beat? In the eh, we get the for thee. If you get into the sweet sixteen, you get the one seed.
How does that work?
What do you mean to get through your breat That means we knocked off the twos and threes and no they're in the them part.
Oh, I see four or five? Gotcha?
Madden's the number one seed in our bracket.
That's a problem. I assume he's got a ton of followers. I mean, he's certainly on the air fair amounth.
He is beating the pants off of Cale Burger.
Okay, now, poor Cale had ran into a buzz.
Yeah, he's the sixteen seed. He is the Robert Morris of the bracket.
There's some folks that aren't real keen on double m though there are There might be. It might might be like the most recent political election, people might just vote against somebody.
That can happen that does happen in this in this particular bracket.
It's a possibility at least if I go against Mark, that's going to be my campaign. Soogan vote for anyone but Mark, right right, right right? And then the eight nine game in our bracket is between Chris Carter and Rich Walsh. Quality competition, Okay, who are the who else is in our bracket? Just total? Uh?
That's in our our little quadrant of the Yeah. Yeah, so I don't know where our games are being placed. I think we're in the South Hills.
That's my home. It's your home, my neck of the woods.
Your home. I'm south of the South Hills. Yeah, it's not too far road trip though your fans travel. So just looking at the open wonder who like who are the other one seeds? And Kolby Armstrong in the Hinz field is a one seed? Is a one seed? He must have a big following on social media. Former player he and j Coffield going, oh that's battand I would think, yeah, I like Coffield doing that. One Joe Block versus Adam Crowley is the eight to nine game. Missy Matthews versus Kevin Gorman. Well Gorman has he stands no chance miss is gonna blow him away. Then you get the five to twelve game. There is Joe Starkey versus Jerry De Paula. Okay, h the two seed is Josh Joey versus Dan Potash.
That's a two fifteen. It's another one that's kind of hits home.
Mike pursuit of the seventh seed against Paul stagger Wall.
The ten seed. Trip is only a seventh seed.
Wow, gotta work harder on his media. Uh, the ten seed is Paul Staggerwall. I mentioned that. I said Jerry Dulac the three seed against Pat Bostick, the fourteen seed.
Jerry's a stalwart.
And then you've got the five seed or the sixth seed. I should say Greg Brown versus Hailey Hunter. Okay, I am not familiar with Hailey Hunter.
No names you mentioned. I don't know what his.
First sports Net reporter says justin Okay, I'll take your word for that.
Uh.
Bob Pompiani the one seed in the PNC Park bracket.
Pretty lovable fella. It's gonna be hard to knock off.
Buddy's squaring off against Ashley li otis the sixteen seed. I'm not familiar with Ashley either Ashley, I don't know if they work for the same stuff. Mhm, but yeah, uh, you got Dorin Dickerson and Alan Saunders the eight nine, Max Starks versus Josh Rowntree. So Max coming in as a four seed is well.
Not a local guy though he's only only flies in for games. I use that against him in the campaign.
Ray fil Apaluldo against Jeff Hathorne. In the five to twelve game. You got Michelle Krazechio is the two seed. Again, not familiar with her.
She must do hockey, You must do something well, right.
Yeah, against Wes Yuler seed Jesse Marshall versus Josh gets Off, Arthur Motes versus Cassidy would and Seth Roerba versus Mike the Fabo and you got the PPG paints. You got day On Kovokovic is the one seed against Rob King the sixteen.
Rob's a sixteen King, Here's a sixteen You talk about Cinderella's story, dude.
He must not be very active on social media.
I think that's a fact. Yeah, because I even remember when the Steelers would tag us for those.
I had to search to find Rob's Twitter hand.
Anyway, it was just and Rob King not even like he has a I know he does, Yeah, he does, but it's he's not real active claimed author though. Yes he is.
Sword and Stone or Jordan Stone, Jenna Harner versus Andrew Stocky, Jason Mackie versus Mike Asty, Chris Mueller versus Brian Batco, Andrew Philippony versus Joe brand, Bill Hillgrove versus Matt Vensel, Rob Rossey versus.
And Bill's not super involved on Twitter. He is not, but he's a sleeper and he's strong. I mean, wh's voting against him?
Yeah, he's a seventh seed, like strong seventh seed. I say, any sixteen seed is a pretty strong, strong sixteen. I think he's actually whopping a day On's butt right now. Wow, it's an easy battle either. I mean Rob Rossy versus Shelby Casssi and Dave Malnery versus Phil Bork.
Well, they match some of the hockey guys together. I mean the Drive team could be going at one another.
One on one. Me and you brother in the bottom part of our bracket. We've gone through the top part of the bracket.
Probably beat me by less than one point. Like the Fantasy League.
Caboli versus Austin Beck told familiar with Taylor Haas versus Chris Adamski, Bob Labriola versus Joe Rudder Old school Battle. How about Labs is a three seed, He's a social social He could end up in the bottom part of that bracket. The six to eleven game is Tim Bens versus Donnie I'm not gonna see. Is what they call him on that show, Donnie. I can't think of his last name now, uh, well, they call him Donny Football, but that's Chedrick, gotcha. Yeah, he actually went to college with my son. Could be Benzi and Labs in the there you go, yeah, yeah, and ask Labs about that on Wednesday. I guarantee he knows nothing about it.
As I say, some of the heaviest hitters aren't real busy on Twitter. Some dudes weren't closest with Rob.
I saw it this morning when I got up. I had some things to do this morning, and we're definitely bring us up. I'm sitting around and I'm like, oh.
Interesting, I did see that, and I meant to click on it and didn't. But anyways, I guess I'm not faring very well in Ron. Joey bagg of Donuts a follower of the show. We appreciate Joey and you can check that out on his his feed, which is I believe just that Joey Bagga Donuts. I think so. Yeah, he sends in a bunch of questions. He's great.
Yeah, one of the best feeds in Pittsburgh and check that out. But let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. That's going to do it for our number one, Matt, and I'll be back with our number two right after this.
