SNR Drive with Matt & Dale (Pittsburgh Steelers)He is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
And welcome to the Drive, Happy Friday. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and Matt Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, visiting the Steelers today, and I know we talked about this earlier in the week a lot, but this tells me that Aaron Rodgers has come to the conclusion that he's not going to retire.
Yeah, I would assume, so, I think that's safe to say. You don't bother doing this, and maybe he takes another trip, who knows what happens, But I would think he's dialed into play football and made that decision, which, again, he has the right to take his time. I mean, he's earned that, he's good enough. The teams will wait. We'll see. I think it's kind of exciting though.
Yeah, we'll see how where this goes from here. But Aaron in town today, visiting with Mike Tomlin, talking about maybe the direction of things, and that's the problem. It's one of the reasons why the Steelers have put forth the rule or change proposal regarding.
Free agency yeah, yeah, yeah.
That Their proposal is that the teams can have a have contact at least one phone call or a video call with a player in the legal tampering period, because right now you're not allowed to talk to the player. You're only allowed to talk to the agent, and the agent talks to the player. But it's kind of like a buffer, a little phone call game that you do in grade school. Tell this guy and then it goes down the line.
And I'm sure not only do do the Steelers have questions for Rogers and personality fits and want to hang out with them like they would a draft prospect, but he probably does for them too. Yeah, what's just going to look like?
Yeah, you know what, what's what are your plans with your vision here?
You know, right?
How does this work? And so? And then there's just the whole personality thing. You can you know, Mike, Mike Toma loves Aaron Rodgers looked. They winked at each other in a field. I don't know if they've ever had an actual conversation.
I don't know if they broke bread together or had lunch or hung out for more than five minutes or shake hands after a game. Who knows.
You know, I saw him at the Pro Bowl right years ago.
Or some banquet or event or whatever. But that doesn't mean that they're close or you know, have a working relationship obviously.
In the same way that I mean they brought in Russell Wilson last year.
Yeah.
Yeah, once he became a free agent and and you know, you talk to him and it wasn't a way to other offers and then he.
I was kicking that around in my cranium too, like did he come in and sign that day or was there no.
There were That's when the phone calls went out to you know, Cam Hayward and TJ. Watt and micka Fitzpatrick. When and he talked to those guys about it. Maybe the same thing happens this weekend, Yeah, yeah, and we get some kind of conclusion early next week sometime.
Would it shock you if Rogers went to New York over the weekend or you know, checked out the Giants or anything like that too.
Although you know, he maybe knows a little bit more a he knows the town.
I assume he has a house resident. It's the same stadium, yeah, yeah, so that's an easier visit. Yeah, and could go under the radar without people noticing too. He's not walking through the Pittsburgh International Airport either, you know, past Franco.
But yeah, so that's where we're at with that. You know, the offer remains on the table. He'll decide what works best for him, and the Steelers will decide. You know, if he just said, well, I'm thinking about the Giants offer, they can decide whether they want to up their offer or whether no, that's our offer, that's what we're sticking with, and pivot somewhere else.
I mean, what's clear is there's obviously mutual interest, you know, which has been bandied about. But I mean the fact that he's on a plane and got here. He's serious about the Steelers, Steelers curious about him. Maybe it does get done over the weekend and he just decides that's what I want. Yeah.
I could see him taking another couple of days and decide which opportunity offers him the best chance sure of success.
Yeah, yeah, and what he was looking for.
For Rogers, who you know, quite frankly had a losing season last year with the Jets. I would think team success is very pretty relevant.
Right, chances of playoffs.
This is not a guy who's lost a lot during his career.
No, I'm much like the Packers. I mean over the his lifespan as an NFL player. The Giant success versus Steelers success is polar opposite. Let's talk about that.
I want to I want to dig into this a little bit.
I was thinking about this art selves and Lawrence Taylor Long Gon Long.
When people talk about, well, the Steelers, they've been in no man's land since Ben Roethlisberger retired, and you hear nausee hear has come out and say, well, you know, we didn't really have a there were no leaders on that offense when you know after Ben. First of all, Ben was there. Ben was the leader of the offense. One of the reasons they drafted Nauji Harris is because they viewed him as a leader. So if if you were lacking leadership on that team, Naugy, look.
At the mirror.
You were supposed to be that guy. You were supposed to be what the offense was built around. You were the guy. You were the first round running back that was supposed to be the identity of the team.
You know, they were going to be young.
If the team didn't have an identity that kind of falls back on you, part of the guy touching the ball three hundred times every year, you know, a third of their offensive touches basically went to Nagy Harris, you were the identity and you you didn't create enough there to make that the identity.
And that was one of the allures of him coming out was considered a leader in a very say it's a.
Bad guy, the team captain heading into a second year. Yeah, yeah, and that wasn't after that.
I'm looking now because I retweeted it and you mentioned the touches and he's he accounted for two hundred ninety nine touches last year. I mean that's almost eighteen touches per game that are open.
Especially at the third of your offense.
Yeah.
You know, if you if you run just over one thousand plays, thirty percent of your offense went through nausey hairs.
Right, that are going to go elsewhere elsewhere, And you hope you even run more plays this year. So maybe that's eighteen nineteen plays a game that aren't going in his hands.
Anyways, where I was going with this, you mentioned the giants, who's there, who's been there quarterback since and Eli Manning's not even a a.
Oh no, Ben was around later than Eli.
Right, But what I'm saying is Eli Manning was their quote unquote franchise quarterback. What has their plan been since since Daniel Jones? Was they took a swing at Daniel Jones? Yeah, you know, look at the people.
They extended him when they shouldn't have his way.
But well that's where they stay there, right, you know the Colts. After Luck retired, you take a bunch of different swings. You take a you know, you reach it for for Anthony Richardson. You could even go to the let's say Denver and Manning was only there a few years, but he was there quote unquote franchise guy.
He was like grabbing Rogers now, right, But.
After he retired, they went nine seasons without making the playoffs. Was not winning a playoff game without making the playoffs?
Yeah, there's a lot of packs and Lynch and a lot of search in there too for a franchise that in our lifetime won a lot of games, like the Giants, but I mean the Giants.
But he wants to bring up the Packers model. Well, they had they had Brett farre and then they drafted Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, he was the twenty fourth pick in the draft.
I don't think they planned on it, but sit in the green room forever and whatever it was.
This guy's too good for us to pass.
Yeah yeah, I mean we're gonna grab him.
And quite frankly, I don't know if we know yet about Jordan Love. No, they're happy with I don't know if he's a franchise quarterback.
He's not far of a Rogers at this point, clearly, let alone.
He's closer to being Derek Carr than he is those guys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean they're happy with him, and he's encouraging, but that doesn't mean that they've hit three in a row.
Look at what's happened to the Patriots since since Brady left them. Oh yeah, they've been in a bad football team.
No question, like the worst in the league.
Right, this is what this is. You know, when I've heard the people say, well, the Steelers have turned into the Browns. No, they haven't turned into the Browns. The Browns brown pretty sick. And the second the draft, they yeah, they've drafted quarterback after quarterback and failed on it. Yeah yeah, And then when they had one in Baker Mayfield, who might have been the guy they decided they wanted to go in a different direction and go for watching. Right, that's not where the Steelers are at right now. The Steelers are in that area where post franchise quarterback having a franchise quarterback. And it's again, I just went through like five examples of teams who had a franchise quarterback, and you know, you don't just fall into the next one.
What would be interesting and could be one of your like five for Fridays And it's definitely a better project for you to do than me. But pull up. All the Hall of Fame quarterbacks are soon to be Hall of Fame quarterbacks. What's the winning percentage of the five years after they retired? And some of them will even be bad there last year Eli is a great example or whatever. But I bet it's pretty poor. It's post always bad post Manning's bad with Denver, you know, I mean a lot of these dudes. You're too good to draft the new one and you've been relying on this player, so you weren't gonna, as we went through earlier in the week, even your second round pick on a quarterback that's going to sit there and you live for today.
And somebody can say, well, what about the Ravens did it with Flacco? They drafted you know, they.
Drafted Laos on the same level.
Is not that guy, right? You know that was always the joke in pitback. Well, Joe Flacco is a franchise quarterback.
He's elite. Blah blah blah blah blah, elite. Oh he wasn't. No, he's a good player. He's a borderline pro bowler in his best days. He's but never going to the Hall of Fame. He's not even going to get on the ballot, you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean he's below Matt Ryan and those type.
Look at the Saints since Breeze retired.
I was thinking about them too.
Like this is not something, this is not uncommon, But it doesn't make you the Browns.
No, No, that's a different world.
The Browns have never had that guy.
I mean, like the Bears have never had that guy, right.
I mean there's a lot of some franchises just haven't. The Jets haven't had a good quarterback since Joe Namath, right, Yeah, you know, and.
They tried with Rogers and injury and age and other things gotten away too. But sometimes it's not you, it's me.
Look how long it took the Bills, the Buffalo Bills between Kelly and Allen went twenty years, not just not making the playoff or not winning a playoff game, not even making the players didn't make the playoffs for two decades after Jim Kelly retired, a.
Really long time, right, Like I mean, post post Marino wasn't great, and you know all those dudes.
It's it's it's unarguable. The Packers are the outlier, and they fell into Rogers in the Rogers. Yes, it wasn't a situation where they said, oh, we're going to go get Aaron Rodgers, because if that were the case, they would have traded up to get.
Him, right, they wouldn't have waited twenty I think they tried. I think love was much more of a planned thing. Yeah, Rogers was Why is he sitting there? Why is he sitting there? I mean again, I was in the war room that year. That was the years with the Browns, and we had the Browns had a higher grade on Rodgers than Alex Smith, who went first. Overall, maybe they did too, maybe ten teams did, but they just didn't have the need or the stones to pick them.
And you know, even for the Steelers at that point, Ben Roethlisberger's twenty eight years old. You're not drafting Aaron Rodgers.
No, No, that one's not even a consideration. Yeah, right, Neither were the Giants or Chargers or right SATs.
There were a lot of teams that had gotten their quarterback early in that decade. They're like, okay, you know, yeah, so it's not uncommon for teams to go through this.
It is uncommon, as to go from far of the Rogers uncommon. Yeah.
The other thing that is uncommon is for your team in three of the four seasons since you've had that guy, to make the playoffs. Right now, I understand people want playoff wins. I get it. Everybody wants playoff wins. But look what, you know what happened to the to the Patriots, They've not been close to a playoff team again. After Kelly retired, the Bills went twenty years without even making the playoffs. When Manning left the Broncos, they hadn't made the playoffs until last year. Yeah, I mean, even like that's the The Steelers are actually an outlier in that regard.
Even like a borderline Hall of Famer, like I don't think Matt Ryan gets in, but he had a really good career run MVP. Unfortunately Arthur Smith inherits end of year Ryan, and then until maybe now you know, I mean there's a four year stretch, three year stretch that was nasty at the quarterback position and.
Starting Marcus Mariota coming out of the out of the gate.
We gotta go to Ritter and you know, I think there was a Heinikey stretch there somebody like him too. End of career Ryan. I mean, there's a lot of them that are really rough. I mean, no question about it. There was another example I thought I don't remember, but you know, it's to go Hall of Fame or franchise guy. Franchise guy is pretty.
It doesn't happen the mister Yoda Mantle, right, it just doesn't happen. And in between that, you have to try to get your bridge quarterback. They tried to do it with Mitch Trubisky. He wasn't necessarily the bridge quarterback. They drafted Kenny Pickett. They thought he was going to be the long term answer until he lost his mind. Yeah, yeah, he got that was a benching. That bench that was a bench he got bench for for Mason Rudolph. You know they they field didn't get benched, which fields didn't get better? That's where I went with that. Yeah, you know, they tried it last year with use Wilson, another Bridge quarterback, and you try to continue to take bites out of the apple, you know, signing Aaron Rodgers this year? Is it really what you're doing is you're just saying, okay, we we saw what looked like with Russell Wilson. It was okay.
Yeah, yeah, it was good for a while until it wasn't.
Until it wasn't. We're gonna try something different again this year.
And I still believe Rodgers is a better football player than Wilson today, and I have a feeling they do too, or they wouldn't, or they wouldn't be waiting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My only question with Aaron Rodgers, and I've said this before, is the off the field stuff. Is he going to still do the McAfee show. Is he gonna is he going to show up at OT? I don't even care about I could care less about his political views.
I doesn't care about.
That doesn't affect me one way or the other. He's nuts. You don't know him. There's a lot of nuts, trust me. I talked to a lot of guys. You have no idea what their political views are or what they believe in or whatever. It doesn't matter. I could care less about that. What I care is is Aaron Rodgers going to be in Is he going to be there at Otash? Is he going to be at Mini campus and not Egypt? That's what I care about.
And if things go bad too, I don't need to hear about every little detail on McAfee for the world to know. There's things that should be behind closed doors, that should be kept in the family business.
That being said, the Steelers have kind of dealt with that on a lesser level with Roethlisberger.
Oh yeah, yeah, mostly post his career.
Well even like he had his Tuesday radio show. Yeah yeah, and he would say whatever on his Tuesday radio show and people, well, did you hear what Ben said today on his Tuesday radio show? Through this guy under the buster? He said this about the offensive coordinator or that, like.
And everyone on the planet has a podcast in a voice.
Yeah they all do. Some guys have better a better filter than others. So the McAfee that doesn't even bother me. No right to me, it's is he going to be there in the off season? Is he going to work during training camp to to be what he needs to be for this football.
It's just all about priorities. To me, being the best quarterback for the Pittsburgh theis priority number one other than his family, religion, and you know that whatever it is, it's most important to him his life as opposed to his brand, you know, or you know, being a public spokesperson or becoming the next Jeopardy host or whatever. That needs to be second mind. Ye. I mean it doesn't mean to go away, but it needs to not be ahead of being the quarterback of the Pittsburshi.
And that's likely the conversation that went that took place between Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers today. Look, if you're here, you're buying into this. You're buying into this. Yeah, we're not here for what we want. We can't have one foot in and one foot out. I saw what happened with the Jets and you can that's a.
Very lenient organization that doesn't have Frankly the backbone to do enough about.
Robert Saler was not going to put his foot down.
It comes back to ownership.
He went out, he was he was enabled in New York.
Oh yeah, you want Randall Cobbyers around.
Oh wait, you want the Fante Adams. We're gonna We're gonna go get DeVonta Adams. Sure, Like, you need to know you're not the GM area. You're not the GM here. We're not bringing in your your hand picked offensive coordinator who couldn't coach the you know, and got fired midway through the season last year. No, we're not doing that stuff. If you're here, you're here.
I mean Denver did that the first year with Russell Wilson too, Like he got his own parking area and his own office. Like no, no, no, you're just part of the team. You're part of the team right right, You've got a locker next to whoever, and you're gonna show up every day and we're gonna do this right yeah. And if by chance you're two and six eight games in, I don't need your tune to change or you know, all of a sudden, I'm backing out of my commitment. You know, that's the kind of stuff you need to work on. Now and have a trust.
Yeah, that's where we're at with the Aaron Rodgers situation. So we'll see what happens maybe by Monday when we come back on the air.
I mean, it's certainly encouraging news for those that want Rogers to be.
We're just some resolution to this whole thing. Right Anyways, He's Matt Williamson. I am Dale. You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.
Matt.
Now, I'll be back with more right after.
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Welcome back on Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson and Matt turning the page here from the previous segment. Let's let's talk a little bit about Shadoor Sanders. Okay, Shadoor Sanders, the big twelve Pro day was yesterday. He chose not to throw there, fine and gonna have his own private throw. Says that's fine. Yeah, he's not alone in that. But he did do some interviews and he was asked about some of the evaluations going on of his game right now, and he said it's a lot of critics. It's a lot of haters, but we know what to do. We know how to handle that in every way, so we remain happy. Is this guy talking about is he talking in the Royal Wei here?
Does he think? It? Sure? Seems like his camp and dad and there.
Is so okay. If it's not the Royal Wi where he thinks he's the king of something and we give you, grant you permission to do this, then it is his quote unquote camp which includes his father. Oh, no doubt, which is one of the things that teams are concerned about.
Yeah, so some of his earlier quotes from a month or so ago, and he went to the Shrine Bowl and didn't participate just to kind of talk to teams and all that, which is weird because he's too good for the Shrine Bowl but didn't go to senior bl blah blah. Think these were at the Shrine Bowl and he basically said, Hey, all you need to know about me is I turned around or we or I don't know what word. He used two programs that were down and out. First of all, the first one, I give him all the credit in the world.
And also Travis Hunter was the number one freaking recruit in the country.
And he went to Jackson State. I'm like, you guys should probably win some games there, you know. I give them credit. I give Dion credit for going to a historically back college and making a name for it and helping that whole atmosphere. But when you're elite recruits and Travis Hunter at Jackson State, you should win something.
You should win some games.
Yes, yeah, Now Colorado is a different story. They were really down and out, but I don't know that they like or all of a sudden in the top ten program.
Didn't transform them as much as his dad transformed him. Brought in a whole bunch of recruits, brought in a whole bunch of transfers.
Yeah.
Yeah, First that went on TV a lot. They were on TV a lot. And before that you saw some of the team meetings and you heard some of the stuff like He's just like, none of you guys going to be here because I'm bringing a whole new group of guys.
Yeah. Yeah, and didn't bring me enough time in, but yeah.
Bring him enough. But he brought him in enough to be competitive.
Yeah, And I think Sanders is a good quarterback prospect, a good quarterback prospect. I mean he's going to be a first round pick. He's going to be a starter at some point, whether succeeds or not. Hunter is the special one.
Hunter was the special player.
That was the special one that never leaves feat.
He was the unicorn.
Yeah, went in doubt. Let's throw it to him, you know what I mean?
Like, you got twenty two starters on a team and he was two of them.
Yeah, yeah, and the best two yeah, and Sanders was number three.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think it's Manzel to Mike Evans, you know, but someone made the other.
Watch some of the throws that he made. He was just throwing the ball up and letting Travis Hunter go get it.
Yeah. I mean, I think that's a spectacular superstar player that if one of the two ends up in the Hall of Fame, I'm betting on Hunter. That would be my guest too, you know what I'm saying.
And so I here's the problem. Dion the Dad is long known to be a guy who doesn't handle criticism. Well oh yeah yeah when he's in the Atlanta Braves locker rooms.
I didn't say he's a draft cross, but he was the same age he went he was playing for the Braves. I know you're talking about they win.
That they beat the Pirates to go to the World Series. He wasn't a great baseball he was not. He was an average baseball player.
Gets forgotten, right.
He went out of his way to dump multiple buckets of water on Tim McCarver because Tim mccar who broadcasted the game, because Tim McCarver said was critical.
Of him as a baseball player, which was sound like it was pretty damn petty.
This is who this guy is. This is the guy who when he didn't like one.
To those highlights. It's not a good look for no, not at all. Mccarver's a legend at this point. You know, he.
Banned reporters from the Colorado from Colorado press conferences and games because they were critical of the program. This is not a guy. This is a guy who has very very thin skin.
Yeah yeah, and he's been the best at what he's done for a long time. But I mean, he's the one the best football players ever seen.
But he wants no criticism whatsoever. You're a quarterback in the NFL, yeah there's going to be criticized.
To play for the New York Giants.
They're going to be criticism. Ye people were people are going to pick your game apart in the pre draft process.
Mahomes is getting it now right because he lost the Super Bowl, Right, the guy's overrated. I don't know it. Man.
We may have a plan, we may know how to handle it in every.
Way, but Josh Allen m he might not do it.
We might not do it real well. Yeah, because if if I'm judging from the way his father has handled criticism, Dion doesn't handle criticism.
Well right right right, And they're all involved, they're intermingled. I mean, it's not just my dad's like this. So I'm like this. I mean, obviously they're a team team saying right now, yeah, which I get. I mean the Mannings did this. I mean I get it. This is the first time the always did that. Yeah, I get itspects, but it does.
Raise some concerns about if I'm the team drafting him, I better have a pretty damn solid backbone as a headcat. It's almost like the Aaron Rodgers thing. You're gonna have to put your foot down with him stulf.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he has many pelts on the wall.
Yeah, he didn't have the He's not a Hall of Fame player like Aaron.
With millions in the bank. And Rogers could say I'm done and walk away, and you know, fine, but Sanders is still trying to write the book.
I'm sorry, you're not coming in here. And and Dad, he's not calling the head coach on Monday and saying, hey, why did we why did we throw that on third and four and we could have run it?
Yeah, and this this is in eighth grade where my kid needs to play, and blah blah blah. I mean, all that stuff's out the door. And you wonder his shador ever been coached by other one, anyone other than Dad. I don't think so. I don't think he's ever had a head coach.
You think his high school coach wasn't the one that I don't even know it was. And Dion, I don't believe.
I'm sure his high school coach was very happy to have him.
He was very happy to have him. But when Dion called, he picked up the phone.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. I mean Dion might be given back to the high school or whatever as he should. I again, there's something wrong. This is different. This you're pro now, but this is the first time that he's going to have a different head coach. It's not related to him. Yeah, you know that's going to be difficult. Dice question. It's dicey. So what from what I understand and I wasn't in the meetings, but several people have reported this or insinuated that Sanders meetings at the combine, Let's say he had ten of them. I have no idea he had. I don't think he probably had more than that, probably had more than that. I mean, I'm sure he chose to show up to them. Yes, apparently most of them. He came across very disinterested. And the way that it was phrased was we didn't get the impression that he cared if we liked him or not. You know, like you sit down an interview like this, don't really carefult want this job.
Raph This is a job interview, right, But there was a couple that he did and because they were the higher picks, it's the.
Giants in the Browns. Supposedly or two of them where no bad reports out of that conversation, you know, So I don't know if they're hand picking where they're wanting to get there trying is they're trying to persuade teams that might take them not to Does he just want to be the highest pick he possibly can for prosterity money wherever? I mean, I wouldn't think the Giants and Browns are your desired landing spots of quarterback needy teams. But if you just want to be the highest pick you possibly can be, well, those are your best options. And I think he's gona end up at one of those places.
I think so as well, and I just don't know how well it's going to work out.
I wouldn't buy that stock. I always look at quarterbacks like stocks, you know, Like I mean like, if he lands in one of those two spots, I don't think I'm investing in that stock at the current cost, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's like chances of that working out are less than ideal for the second or third overall pick.
In the draft to me, now we have heard some stuff that you know, his floor would be the Steelers at twenty one. I do think that Mike Tomlin has again the pelts on the wall, right right right, tell Dehon to go sure jumping them on.
And I think you might tell Rogers to go jump in the man, right, I mean right. I mean that's this organization is going to be different that way, you know, and I think that's a good thing. So we open the show with the Rogers talk. If Rogers decides in five minutes or over the weekend, I'm going to be a Steeler signs a two year deal. Are you out of round one completely on quarterbacks?
Yeah, I'm not using it.
I think I am too.
Even with Sanders, I just don't love I don't I don't like any of these guys at twenty one, right right.
I just tell him We've had lots of dark conversations this week, and I don't think either one of us is given up twenty one for Dart and Frankly at this point, if you if Rogers is in house, especially if it's more than a one year deal, it's to your deal either way. I think that's I'd consider it round three. With how they're at now.
I'm willing to take a bigger swing at a guy with higher upside who isn't maybe he doesn't play a down this year, Yeah the mill Jalen Milroe right right right now?
Yeah, he doesn't.
He doesn't see the field at all, or maybe just a package here and there. But he has the higher upside from some of these other guys. Some of these guys I just don't see the upside. Yeah, it could be solid NFL quarterback, They could be bow Nicks. Well I think is a a good Yeah, yeah, I think. But I think his ceiling is to be the Kirk Cousins. Yeah, the fourteenth best quarterback early.
Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm still interested in McCord in the fifth or sixth. I mean backup types, you know that maybe a strike gold with but I'm even more interested in a mill Row that could just sit niny, nothing from him, no pressure. If you're two and thirteen, he still doesn't even get in the game, you know, no matter what.
And it's never going to be two and thirteen.
I know, I know.
But people who say that just haven't been paying attention, right, I mean, the Steelers haven't as a franchise, haven't won fewer than six games since like the mid eighties.
And I meant to say this last segment we were talking about post Roethlisberger, because it's been several years now. I put a graphic out on a chart on Twitter, A couple of weeks ago over the last decade, the only team with the better record in the regular season. In the regular season, I know they're on a playoff wins. I mean, I've been here too, We're aware, right, it's the Chiefs. I mean, they's the second best. And there's a lot of different quarterbacks a lot, right, right, the second best winning percentage in the regular season over the last decade to be said for that.
Yeah, so that includes Duck Hodges right right, right, includes Mitch Trubisky.
End of career. Wasn't wonderful for Ben you know what I mean, right, I mean, it wasn't him in his prime lighting them up and they put a bunch of stuff in the bank. It's consistent wins like the Patriots are still on that list, but fading really really fast or at the end, you know. But I would be out on quarterbacks all together in round one the minute Rogers signs.
This year this year, because I don't like I just don't. Yeah, I just don't see anybody that's going to be worth that pick.
I'm not reaching on Dart just because.
Unless unless and again I've just talk poorly about Sanders here, but I still like him. Enough as a prospect that if he were there at twenty one, okay, yeah, I would be a strong consideration.
I would probably be out of it at this point too, just because imagine the circus that could ensue, Well, it would be a circus Sanders, Rogers, Rudolph and not the Rudeolph's going to cause problems. But that's if you.
Think he's a potential franchise quarterback.
That's the thing is, I don't know that he is.
I don't know that he is either, right, all right, I think he's a starter. Yeah, I think his ceiling is toua yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that to me, that's not worth passing on Kenneth Grant or you know, something like that or not hear yet that was not a round pick.
But I think if that were the case and he were available at twenty one, be interested in coming up to twenty one.
Yeah, And that's why I don't even think he'll get that far. If he gets to nineteen twenty, the team that didn't get him early is you know, the Browns or Giants or somebody like that, the Raiders. Somebody that has an older quarterback is going to be aggressive. Yeah, wish me fine. By me if he falls off the board in nineteen, I'm not holding my breathro him to get to twenty one.
Yeah, you know, so that's where I'm out on Shador Sanders. I think he's got some warts and their kind of self inflicted boards.
I mean, I mentioned even the Mannings and the Lways, and people need not remember that Elway was such a better prospect though. I mean, like if you s mel Kuiper even was a better prospect, right, And I mean Peyton was a good prospect, but like people forget half the league wanted Leaf. Half of the league win a Peyton. He was not a luck you know. I mean Elway was a slam dunk. He's lebron.
He was the number one pick.
He had way more power.
Yeah, in twenty different drafts.
Yeah, yeah, no question. I mean, like melsaid, that's I've heard mel Kuiper say, it's the highest grade he's ever given a quarterback coming out. Yeah. Okay, that's a pretty good company since nineteen eighty or whatever.
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And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli and he is Matt Williamson, and well, Matt, we spent a lot of time talking quarterbacks here and apparently I don't even know where this happened at, but somewhere I just saw something tweeted about it that Jeremy Fowler went out on something in front.
Of the show, and I like, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's good.
Guy said that, Well, you know, the Steelers even if they sign Aaron Rodgers, that doesn't take them out of the quarterback market this year. They could still take one, you know, on day two or by the end of day two, or you know, they could they could take one next year. And people look at just like it's news.
Yeah right, I don't think it is.
That's not news. You don't have quarterback. I mean, shigning forty two year old Aaron Rodgers doesn't take you out of the quarterback.
Especially from a year from now. I mean to me, I just said five minutes ago I think I'd be out of the quarterback market at twenty one. Yeah, and I feel pretty strong about that. That doesn't mean I'm not all over the rest of the class, or hey, I might give you a future first to go get whoever we love next year. At this time when we're talking drafts, I mean, like that's what they've This isn't the answer for the next deck No, right, right right.
We're looking at the wrong way. The NFL, as I said before, is a year to year league at this point unless you've got the guy, right and if you don't have the guy, you're going year to year trying to set yourself up to get the guy, Which goes back to the comp picks that we've talked about.
All right, right, right, they got a lot of amma.
You've got all your ammo next year, and if you have to make a big move to go up and get a quarterback that you you think is the next Patrick Mahomes, you think is the next Josh Allen, you're positioned to go do that because you've got a lot of extra ammunition in next year's draft, and you know, if you have to also trade away a future first, Okay.
If it's for that type of picture.
If it's that guy, if you've identified that guy.
And frankly, i'd love to see how I'm going to assume Rogers is a Steeler. I mean, that's not an assumption we can make. But for argument's sake, if they win twelve games in two playoff games, Aaron Rodgers, maybe I'm not using a first round pick on a quarterback next year. I mean, I know he's not going to be here for five right, but if you're looking at it like man, if they only have one more receiver, they might be the best team in the league. Well, then maybe I would push my chips in in a non Steelers like way. If Rogers is one of the best players in the league, you know, let's see how the season goes. Yeah, but it's never a bad idea to me. It's the McCord's or the Shucks or the you know. I mean, if you got one of those dudes, see what they look like a camp and go. But I'm not in the first round market this year, but I probably will be next year.
Look at how Tampa Bay handled this with Tom Brady as an example. They got Brady when he was going into his age forty three season.
It was that later. Wow.
Yeah, so he was even older than Aaron Rodgers. And I understand Tom Brady's eating all the avocado ice cream and the specials. They come right, right, But Rogers is a better thrower of the football.
Oh, he's more talented. More. Brady would tell you that, right.
Yeah, the pieces were in place. You had Chris Godwin there. It was pretty good, Evins.
If he was a good team, he replaced Winston.
Folks had turned the ball over forty times to previous.
I think that was the thirty thirty year, right through.
Thirty interceptions and he lost ten fumbles. He turned over forty times just at the quarterback position.
And Brady wisely had a lot of suitors and looked at this team like they just drafted Tristan Wurfs. They got a defensive minded head coach, kind of a quarterback. Away, I can maybe convince Gronk to come with me. You know see what I'm saying, you know right, see what you're saying.
There. Brady comes out and throws forty touchdown passes and twelve interceptions, throws for forty six hundred yards. He hadn't thrown for forty six hundred yards were more than forty six hundred yards since twenty fifteen, and he herds thrown forty touchdown passes since two thousand and seven, when he threw fifty.
And if you remember, the first ten eleven twelve games weren't great. I mean it wasn't terrible. They weren't the worst team in the league. He wasn't a bad player. They had a very late late bye week and they kind of had to come to Jesus moment where what I like to do and what you guys do a little bit of oil and water. We need to get together, and they said, Tom do your thing.
That's because Arians offense was just let's drop back and chuck it deep. Yeah time and Tom again, Yeah right right right.
I was forget trying to remember who the offense coordinator was, and that adds up one hundred. I mean, Brady's gonna dissect you by death.
By a thousand twel Arians got fired here, Yeah, yeah, because all that, it's all he wanted to do. The quarterback is getting killed.
And I don't know what the Bucks lost again, I know they didn't in the playoffs.
Yeah, I mean, if you look at that season, what do he gets sacked that year.
Looking game by game, there's a clear delineation from what I remember of post By. Yeah.
I mean even at that he still only got sacked twenty one times because he's Tom Brady and he's just going to get rid of the football.
But sacks are quarterbacks stat.
Yeah, they are a quarterback stat. And you know you look at the So I understand if that, if that's what you think you're trying to recapture here or trying to do.
I get it, I get it right.
Right. The Bucks were not a Super Bowl team with Jamis Winston.
I don't eve think they were a playoff team.
They weren't. Yeah, they weren't. They went seven nine, they were right, five hundred went seven and nine with the same talent, and they took and plucked Tom Brady and put him in the middle of.
That at the similar age of Rogers.
To your point, they went eleven and five and won the Super Bowl.
Yeah, you'll take it.
And they had a lot in place, not saying that's what's gonna happen with Aaron Rodgers, right, But I understand why you would you would.
I understand why he's in town and you're talking to him.
This this was twenty twenty. This is not ancient history. No, this is modern football.
This is the way that you know, this is George Blanda did it.
It's the same reason the Jets tried to take this one. The problem is is the Jets didn't have the same pieces in place, and.
It kind of looked like they did and they gave up some good stuff a ton to get him, a ton to get him too.
That's like, this is this is signing a guy much like you know, Tampa Bay. Did you signed him as a free agent?
Yeah, yeah, give him money. That's he's got a lot in the bank. He's not gonna be the highest paid quarterback in the league. He's not going to destroy your cap.
You know.
No, it makes all the sense in the world to me, right, Yeah, And I could see why it's attracted to him, and so I guess you.
Know, I'm not gonna stand here and say again my only concern, my biggest concern. I've said this from day one is the off the field stuff of Aaron Rodgers.
You didn't worry about that with Tom Brady, No, No, I mean, obviously he does commercials and things like that, but it was never what's his priority? Number one, just to be a quarterback.
Be a quarterback and when Yeah, we'll see how that goes.
I think it's super intriguing if it does actually happen, though, Yeah, I certainly will make well of a lot to talk about when people talk about, you know, this Steelers aren't being aggressive enough.
What's more aggressive than this?
Yeah, that's a pretty aggressive move. I mean, I thought last year was aggressive, but it also was nice because the costs were so great. You got a gift that fell in your lap. Let's try it, and we kind of and they kind of did do it, and they did do it with Wilson. But what if it was just a better version of Wilson? Yeah, you know what I mean, Like Wilson had a presence in camp and you know, locker room and leader and all that kind of stuff, and there's immediate respect, you know. I mean, he's not trubisky, off the scrap heap type of guy. I mean, these guys, this guy's got again up in the Hall of Fame, right, Rogers is definitely in the Hall of Fame, you know. Yeah, so well you're Pratt Fryarmouth. Like I've been in League for a while. But I wouldn't mind getting huddle with Aaron Rodgers all the time. I mean, let's go.
You know, right, he's gonna throw the tight end the ball. Well that too, Yeah, that's gonna happen. That's gonna happen, right, I mean I made Tyler Conklin a thing.
Yeah, yeah, I mean he's had a lot of them. I know, By the way, for our purposes, training camp would be a blast. I mean everything would be a little more elevated, you know.
I just if this does happen, there's the league because one of the big rooms, one of the three teams the Steelers could play in Dublin is Green Bay.
Ah. Okay, they're gonna play him anyway.
You're gonna play him one way or the other. Does the league want to do that and make that, you know, Green Bay versus Pittsburgh at ten o'clock in the morning on Sunday or do they want that as a Monday night game?
I would say, what the do the International Games get more views than a typical one o'clock I mean they're a standalone I know, but they're weird times. Yeah, I don't know if they get great ratings or just good ratings everything. I have no idea I thought it was good as a Sunday night or that one would get pretty good. Yeah, really big. I don't think he played He didn't play the Packers last year. I don't think. I mean the year before, if they were on the schedule, you think they played him. But that's scream Sunday.
Night or to me, yeah, or Monday night football or whatever.
It may be standalone game of some sort.
Yeah, but well, and again, Dublin will be a standalone game. Do you want to do that? Like the media crush on that, people like all the networks will be well, oh, we got to send somebody to Dublin now.
Oh yeah yeah. If they weren't playing on originally.
Yeah we weren't. We weren't going to send somebody to Dublin. But now we're going to send the whole crew.
No, that could be cool. That could be cool. Now I'm rooting for it, I absolutely am.
Anyways, let's get to another break. That's going to do it for our number one of the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back with our number two right after this
