When an astrologer tells Mangesh that he’ll (probably) die early, he takes it in stride. But his family and friends (not to mention all the Don’t Die longevity influencers on his FYP) feel differently… and besides, if science can keep his brain sharp and his tennis game strong for longer, why not take advantage? So he visits Dr. Nir Barzelai, the world’s leading aging researcher, and Dr. Ron Primas, an elite longevity doctor, to figure out what he should do. Plus: A chat with Ken Reid from TV Guidance Counselor about age in pop culture, from the Golden Girls to “I’ve fallen and I can’t get up.”

Disclosure: The experts we spoke with want to be clear that although they have some minor quibbles with Bryan Johnson, they’re grateful for the fact that he’s started the conversation on longevity. Any insinuation that he’s got weird vibes is ours.
Listen to Ken Reid’s podcast, TV Guidance Counselor
Learn more about Nir Barzelai’s Longevity Genes Project and his book, Age Later
Learn more about Ron Primas’s longevity and concierge medicine practice
Read Cynthia Kenyon’s groundbreaking 1993 study of worm longevity
Check out the Ray Kurzweil Library

Special thanks to Azadi Records and Bliss Samsa for their beautiful tracks, and Botany for the score. 

Episode collage art by Vahini Shori.

When an astrologer tells Mangesh that he&rsquo;ll (probably) die early, he takes it in stride. But his family and friends (not to mention all the Don&rsquo;t Die longevity influencers on his FYP) feel differently&hellip; and besides, if science can keep his brain sharp and his tennis game strong for longer, why not take advantage? So he visits Dr. Nir Barzelai, the world&rsquo;s leading aging researcher, and Dr. Ron Primas, an elite longevity doctor, to figure out what he should do. Plus: A chat with Ken Reid from TV Guidance Counselor about age in pop culture, from the Golden Girls to &ldquo;I&rsquo;ve fallen and I can&rsquo;t get up.&rdquo;
Disclosure: The experts we spoke with want to be clear that although they have some minor quibbles with Bryan Johnson, they&rsquo;re grateful for the fact that he&rsquo;s started the conversation on longevity. Any insinuation that he&rsquo;s got weird vibes is ours.
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Listen to Ken Reid&rsquo;s podcast, <a href="https://tvguidancecounselor.com/">TV Guidance Counselor</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Learn more about Nir Barzelai&rsquo;s <a href="https://einsteinmed.edu/centers/geroscience/research/human-longevity-studies">Longevity Genes Project</a> and his book, <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250413536/agelater/">Age Later</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Learn more about Ron Primas&rsquo;s <a href="https://drprimas.com/">longevity and concierge medicine practice</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Read Cynthia Kenyon&rsquo;s groundbreaking <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/366461a0">1993 study of worm longevity</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Check out the <a href="https://www.thekurzweillibrary.com/">Ray Kurzweil Library</a></li>
</ul>
Special thanks to <a href="https://azadirecords.com/">Azadi Records</a> and <a href="https://linktr.ee/blisssamsa?utm_source=ig&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_content=link_in_bio&amp;fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQPOTM2NjE5NzQzMzkyNDU5AAGnAk6C4DXTX6m8NeOWJ0-skDMYgx5opCMGwkZ9tasSTyomtzXcE_krGMqkmfY_aem_lOvLBI_4bT1Th12lEIu5oA">Bliss Samsa</a> for their beautiful tracks, and <a href="https://botany.bandcamp.com/music">Botany</a> for the score.&nbsp;
Episode collage art by <a href="https://www.vahinishori.com/">Vahini Shori</a>.

Mangesh Hattikudur (Part-Time Genius, Mental_Floss) dives into the booming business of living forever—meeting the scientists, biopunks, and entrepreneurs trying to turn immortality into reality, and framing death as a choice. But the more he learns about an immortal future, the more he finds himself drawn to the people he loves…and wondering if an endless life can be a meaningful one.

Skyline Drive: How to Live Forever is the follow up to the beloved Skyline Drive (season 1), named a “Series Essential” — an Apple Podcasts honor for top-tier narrative podcasts — and highlighted on several Best of Year lists including NYMag, Guardian, and others. 

Mangesh Hattikudur (Part-Time Genius, Mental_Floss) dives into the booming business of living forever&mdash;meeting the scientists, biopunks, and entrepreneurs trying to turn immortality into reality, and framing death as a choice. But the more he learns about an immortal future, the more he finds himself drawn to the people he loves&hellip;and wondering if an endless life can be a meaningful one.
Skyline Drive: How to Live Forever is the follow up to the beloved Skyline Drive (season 1), named a &ldquo;Series Essential&rdquo; &mdash; an Apple Podcasts honor for top-tier narrative podcasts &mdash; and highlighted on several Best of Year lists including NYMag, Guardian, and others.&nbsp;

Skyline Drive: How to Live Forever

Skyline Drive has been selected as an Apple Podcasts Series Essential! Listen ad-free for a limited time.

When Mangesh Hattikudur (Part-Time Genius, Humans Growing Stuff) set out to do a big, sweeping show on astrology, he didn’t realize the first interview would change the course of his life. But as he tries to put his world back together, he realizes the incredible ways astrology presents itself in modern society: from NASA employees who keep their belief in astrology in the closet, to world leaders who’ve used astrologers to guide foreign policy, to moneyball statisticians who use astrology more than statistics to build baseball teams, to a little shop in India where your fortune was written for you centuries ago, and is waiting for you to come claim it. Over the course of 8 episodes, Mangesh tries to decipher why we keep looking to the stars for answers, and what happens when you don’t believe in astrology, but astrology keeps happening to you.

Skyline Drive has been selected as an Apple Podcasts Series Essential! Listen ad-free for a limited time.
When Mangesh Hattikudur (Part-Time Genius, Humans Growing Stuff) set out to do a big, sweeping show on astrology, he didn&rsquo;t realize the first interview would change the course of his life. But as he tries to put his world back together, he realizes the incredible ways astrology presents itself in modern society: from NASA employees who keep their belief in astrology in the closet, to world leaders who&rsquo;ve used astrologers to guide foreign policy, to moneyball statisticians who use astrology more than statistics to build baseball teams, to a little shop in India where your fortune was written for you centuries ago, and is waiting for you to come claim it. Over the course of 8 episodes, Mangesh tries to decipher why we keep looking to the stars for answers, and what happens when you don&rsquo;t believe in astrology, but astrology keeps happening to you.

Skyline Drive

The Longevinauts

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