Paul Murray Live | 27 January

Published Jan 27, 2025, 12:38 PM

Anthony Albanese's leadership slips through his fingers, Donald Trump's crack down on immigration receives a major boost. Plus, Peter Dutton announces a Coalition cabinet reshuffle.

The Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Hello, Happy public holiday all around the country. Come on into the man Cave. If this is your first time of reconnecting with the news after a summer break, I hope you've had fun. We've been going for a couple of weeks where he's Sunday through Thursday. You can always find highlights of everything we've got to say and do. It's Goynews dot com dot Au Tonight, big one on the show. No shooks, no lefties looking forward to this. Also, I'm going to explain to you why lefties are freaking out about just enterprise taking an even bigger role in the upcoming federal election. To one of them at Cole Flint, who is going to try to take back a seat that she had in the Federal Parliament for a while Boothby in South Australia. Well, if the covalation needs to get close, she needs to win. We'll have a chat to her about her plan to do so in a moment or two time. And the Great Donald Trump, the man is winning even when at times he's not even trying. The new broom that is sweeping the world. Now, I know we've heard all day about News Poll. We told you, of course about it first last night. That's why Sunday Night hard cause it doesn't matter if they're sport on another thing. The final of this the semi five. Make sure that you series link this program if you're watching it and can do so via Foxtel. Make sure that your favorite it like it if you watch it in all the other platforms, and make sure that you get that podcast and suggest it to a friend. As we told you, the Liberal Party back in front after the summer summer. That was yet again another reset for the Prime Minister. But I want to take some time to talk about some of the other things that are deeper inside the poll, including people's perceptions of what is about to happen at the federal election now primary vote. Under the News Poll, it is down from the last election for the Labor Party, down by a couple of points for the Libs anounce it is up by quite a few points as you can see there, up to thirty nine down to thirty one. The two party preferred is now ALP forty nine and the Coalition at fifty one. But the angle that Simon Benson put on the story about the poll has been much of the discussion today that a majority of voters now believe that the coalition is going to win the next election. Now, remember the poles have been pointing this way. The bookies think that's the case. And forty seven percent of people say that a Labor government majority or minority will end up being the one put in place, or it's going to be a Liberal National government to the tone of fifty three percent. I lacked out the numbers for you if you want me to, but there we go forty seven. Interestingly, fifty one percent of Labor voters think that their government the best they can do is form a minority. But I want everyone to sit down and have a chat. Who would like to see a change of government? And the Liberal National Party being the one that formed forty six percent of people told news poll of Liberal and National voters that they think that they won't just get their via minority, they'll get their majority. Okay, there's also a bit of a gender split here. You know how the Liberal Party's got a problem with women are not quiet. You see, men think that Labor will get there via a minority at fifty one percent versus forty nine, and it is women who believe that the Liberal National Party will be the next government of Australia fifty eight percent to forty two. Oh, but the Liberals have a problem with women. Get ready for that to be one of the tactics that Labor plays and plays hard in the next little while. Now, the reason I want to have a chat with you about this tonight is that I want to deliver a reality check. Not because I don't think the government is terrible, not because I don't think that the issues are going their way, not because I think that at no other point in time has the establishment and access media sources been as ignored as they are right now. But more so, I want you to understand the hill that needs to be climbed because it is quite significant for the LMP. Let me explain here. So you need seventy six seats to form a majority. LAID currently has seventy eight, meaning of course that they can lose two seats and still be in a majority. Lose three they go into a minority. But with the Greens you now start to see the numbers have to push down to like seventy four seats, or even if they start to push down to seventy two, the Greens would be able to save them, depending on how many of the Teals stick around. Well, that two could mean that we're not talking about losing four here and four there. They could end up losing almost ten and still have a pretty viable, negotiable path back into government. Now that means that what you do with your preferences matters more than ever before, because it's not just about the seats that the Liberal Party will win in its own right or return back to the fold. Places like a being Along in New South Wales or a Gilmour in New South Wales. Both were sites that were seats that were decided by about one thousand or even less than five hundred votes in the of Gilmour, which is in and around Bateman's Bay and the South Coast. But they do need preferences to go their way. Meaning if you are somebody who is about the twenty percent of Australians that are currently sitting outside of Team Read or Team Blue, well what you do with your number two is going to determine what happens here now. Interestingly, some eageroid people have noticed about the opinion polls and about how they have been pulled apart and how we get to say fifty one forty nine is that we end up getting there because it's based off the preferences at the last election. Now, in two thousand and nineteen, the surprise election result was because people who didn't vote for the Liberal and National Party first did put them at number two, meaning that preferences were flowing let's roughly say two thirds back to the coalition, and that meant that they were able to get enough seats to get a majority in their own right. Now, there were no teals back then, but still that is the mats in twenty twenty two, when some of the messaging that was out there was bugger them all, kind of two out of three ended up not going back. They may have eventually, but they were sent on a very long journey. It meant that say some local independence were able to end up getting to the two party runoff with Labor as opposed to the Liberal and National Party. But again I want you to understand that where it sits right now is not Hallelujah, this is going to happen. The spin that was put on it today from experienced people writing at news dot com. Do you say that the best interpretation of the polls is a potential win of between seven and fourteen seats. Now, as you can see, the coalition desperately does need an awful lot more seats than that to be able to get close enough to a position where literally they have to have more seats than the Labor Party, And then the Teals and Independence and people like Rebecca Sharky, who most likely would get re elected in the seat Mayo in South Australia, and Bob Catter have all sort of said that basically, the team that has the most number of seats is the one with the first right to govern, and that's out the negotiations begin. Remember that Anthony Alvenizi's job at one of them in twenty ten to twenty thirteen was to wrangle the cross Beach. Now, of course he was easily able to do it because there were turncoats like Oakshot and Windsor who would do anything to deny their former party any path towards government. But we all know that that twenty ten to twenty thirteen period led to the massive win of Tony Abbott, only to be squandered by twenty sixteen when again preferences and primary votes started to change. So let's have a look here last night on and every Sunday night. Again a reason why I want you to watch that Sunday night show, Record that Sunday Night show, watch it the next day, whatever, but be here on Sunday night, because we're going to do a segment every Sunday night. We've done this since we came back a couple of weeks ago, where we sit down with Michael Kroger, who knows and the best case scenario for those who want to see a change in government. But we also have a chat to the people from Redbridge. These are the people who are doing serious data and analysis. They're not just doing polls, They're doing focus groups, and they are at the moment the people who are willing to tell us a lot of what's happening behind the scenes when it comes to part of the data. Now, the Red Brig group will join us each and every Sunday night to go through the very latest data and also what they are hearing out of the focus groups. Now, again, none of this is an exact science. As we've said before. With the United States, look at where the bookies are probably more so than the Poles, but all of the bookies right now. So there will be a change of government. So if that's going to come from somewhere, where does it come from? This was their suggestion last night. The election is going to be decided in New South Wales and Victoria. Lives could pick up a couple of seats in WI, but it's only a couple of that you're going to make up the eighteen seats. So you need numbers, you need those big number, So those pig numbs are in New South Wales and Victoria. So I had to look at this today of all of the seats that are needed to get the coalition into a majority government. So again the most unlikely of the scenarios, but the best case scenario for Peter Dutton and his supporters and no doubt many people watching right now who would like that to be the case. Well, where are the most marginal seats? I had to look at about eighteen of the most marginal seats for the Labor Party and this is what it shows you That six of them are in New South Wales, six of them are in Victoria. Twelve seats is great, but twelve seats may not get you into a position where you have more seats than the Labor Party, and the Labor Party would then be in the box seat to be able to potentially negotiate its way back to power. It would be a terrible inferior government. But I'm trying to temper the expectation. If the largest number of people who plan to vote for the coalition are saying that their expectation is a Labor sorry, a coalition majority, there's a lot more work to do outside of New Southwald Victoria. Potentially two of the most vulnerable seats for we are in Western Australia for Labour two in Tasmania taking the clean sweep all the way from the north down to half way through Tasmania. They don't have many seats up for grabs. In Queensland one is the one most likely and again Boothby in South Australia. Put all that together, yeah, you get to a coalition majority. But as you can see, we have to try to have a look at what is happening state by state, which takes us over to the resolve political monitor. These are the polls that come out on the Channel nine websites and newspapers, and it shows that nationally Peter Dutton is the preferred prime minister right now, thirty nine to thirty four. In the seats where twelve are up for grabs, Dutton is leading by a huge number in New South Wales, a very strong number in Victoria. And then once you start to add a thirteenth seats, say in Queensland, Dutton is absolutely thumping home there. But again let me caution you, thirteen seats does not a majority make the rest of Australia by a slim margin. So we're talking about Western Australia, South Australia, Tasmania and the Northern Territory, but not too much polling happens in the Northern Territory. And yes there's a seat up for grabs in the Northern Territory and two in South Australia, and sorry, two in Tasmania, and two in South Australia and two in West Australia. And if all that goes their way, then of course a majority government. But it's so fascinating to look at the picture that nationally, the strength on the east coast of the mainland is pretty obvious here where the lot bulk of the seats are, and a couple of surprises might turn up that that is where the best shot of pulling it all together is because that's the most number of seats, the most number of contented contested seats, and the most number of population. But the wrinkle is that outside of those areas, still and ever so slightly, it is Albaneze who is the preferred prime minister. So watch this space now again. The purpose of this show and the purpose of what we try to do here each and every night is I've got a very strong opinion and i am going to chase these people as hard as I've ever chased them because the future of the country is at risk. Three more years after the three years that we had cannot be tolerated. Will not be acceptable to the vast majority of Australians who have been doing it, particularly tough demographics and a whole bunch of other reasons, including that block of teals is the difference. But I'm also not going to hide from you the data, the polling in the context of other polling that is going to give us a slightly clearer picture of how realistic the options are. The four options on the table from labor majority to labor minority to liberal national minority to liberal national majority. Now increasingly in polls there are lots of undecideds. When they are breaking, they are breaking the coalition's way. But we are only at the start of a process, the start of a process where the Prime Minister has attempted yet another reset and it hasn't moved the needle. But you know the air cover he's going to get from his mates in the press and the activists who will promise to make life hell. You've got to hope that people will see the difference between the two teams and make a conclusion that obviously you and I would be hoping for. But I'm not going to muck around, and I'm not going to happy talk. I'm going to tell you what's really going on. And yes I'll have my opinion, and we'll point out plenty of holes in everything that they've done. But my promise to you is to always tell you what's really going on, not just to times what we like to be going on or the message that we would just love to float amongst the population. So it was cautionary to me to see the people who are voting Liberal National who think they're going to go for a majority. Great, keep up the confidence, but you've got to convince your neighbor. You've got to convince your friend about their preferences. You've got to do that work to amplify some of the facts that you hear on this program. By sharing some of the content, you do all of that skynews dot com dot you and share on any and all of your socials. Of course, cost of living number one issue in the country. It doesn't matter what pole when it's been the same for the past few years. Of course it was before the last election. And never forget the promise that Anthony Albernezi had made. It is one that I think some I don't know whether our production team can get access to a printer a three poster. I'm going to whack it behind me to remind everyone. Their promise was a labor government will lower the cost of living. That was the promise. But the reality is interest rates up twelve times on their watch. When you go to the supermarket, does anything cost less than it did the best part of three years ago. Petrol ever hitting new highs. It's so frequently got a two in front of it. Albanzi was trying to score political points back when it was a dollar seventy five. He's increased taxes by the way on things like petrol. But that's all right, no one's going to notice. You're going to focus on how scary and trumpy and Peter Dunton please. And then there's the explosion in excise tax. The excise tax which exists on things like tobacco and beer, the types of things that some people might choose to do. Not amazing for your health, certainly in the case of smoking when it comes to your own recreation, but you know that it's a pint, a pot or a glass. And even as an on drinker, I notice how expensive this stuff can has become. And I want to say, well under the good people of bunderberg Rum, because as I have shown you many times before, this wonderful special personalized bottle of bunderberg Rum is a perfect symbol of how the excise tax under this government has got wildly out of control. And they are deciding not just to let people know once they go around and find the details, they've decided to launch a new website and a campaign through the federal election. Hurts. Some radio adds about this and it tells you that that bottle of Bundy that I just held up. Sixty three percent of it is tax. Now, of course, at some point in time businesses that have that are making things, but the actual sticker price more than half sixty three percent of which in fact isn't going back to that company to employ people to up their operations in Bundy and around the country. No, it's going straight to the tax man. Now, we all understand that nobody wants to pay higher income taxes. A national debate about increasing the GST, while in my view valuable or changes when it comes to company tax probably not going to be accepted. So they are all these sly little ways that they introduce extra taxes. This mob that says, oh, we're all about cost of living, We're totally focused on cost of living. They have made the decisions to increase the taxes on everything from Bundy to petrol. All of that has made life in Australia harder. But the Prime Minister now getting into a standoff with the Reserve Bank, who have previously said that things like government spending like hiring more public servants than ever before, giving pay rises that is the highest in a decade, not to mention all of the money that is going on projects around the country. Well, it keeps the inflation high. If inflation remains high, then interest rates don't come down. Now this government has said, oh we've got on top of inflation yet, but remember it's not the real number. The number of inflation is artificial at the moment because of the three hundred dollars for mansions through the one bedroom units in the bush. When it comes to power prices, you don't see that money. It's given to the power companies. Then the artificial reduction in price is put up as a reason why inflation is getting better, but it is not. Now figures cross. It does get better because that's what Australians want, but it's not going to be because of this government. But this government knowing that it is run out of time and two little too late tax cuts and removing fifteen hundred dollars for ten million taxpayers in one of their first acts as a government, and increasing the tax on beer, on wine, on cigarettes and on petrol has made their life harder. Now they're just outright bsing you and again they will play the game where it's the reserve banks fold not the governments. That inflation is not where it should be. When it is where it should be in other countries around the world.

We have done all we can is a government to create better conditions for monetary policy to work together with what the governor has done.

I couldn't disagree more. We've got the receipts. If you've watched this show every night, then you know it by chapter and verse. If you check it out once a week, you know it by chapter and verse. If you pass by us every few weeks, you know it in chapter and verse. Because you are living it, you know it and you know how hard life has become. The promise was for it to get better. It got worse. How would our national media have reacted if Tony Abbert promises to stop the boat's boats, but more boats ended up turning up. We know exactly what would be the case. It's interesting that in all of the promise trackers that say the government has delivered on many of its commitments, I noticed the one to promise that cost of living would go down is never counted. Jeez, I wonder why. Something that also happened over the long weekend was Peter Dutton rearranged some of the people that are taking on the federal government at the upcoming election in the shadow minister or portfolios most importantly and most noted. And I know you've seen this with everyone else, and it's great to see everyone back and firing it to full cylinders here at Sky News. Remember from five PM with Chris all the way through to reader at eleven o'clock, we are on all cylinders here at Sky News. Juice the Price moves out of the Indigenous Afairs portfolio. She is now moving into the specific responsibility of going after government waste. Now this most importantly means that rather than the media seeking her out to only speak on the specific policy areas of Indigenous Australia, she now has a wider portfolio to be able to go after the government. And as she showed when it came to the debate with the Voice, she is formidable. There are few politicians that I have ever seen in my life that can draw a crowd, draw attention, or convince a room with the clarity that your sin to Nampa Jumper Price does. He's Peter Dunt't explaining her promotion.

She will take on the important role of shadow Minister for government efficiency. Work that you sent it will do, which will come under the prime Minister and cabinet portfolio in government will be to find Labour's waste.

Now important to note in all of this here that going after government waste in government is nothing new. There have been multiple people that have been fighting this front on multiple sides of the political aisle with named portfolios for at least a decade or certainly multiple election cycles. But because the left's narrative is that they want to turn Peter Dudden into Donald Trump, then because Donald Trump also has Elon Musk looking after the efficiency or the lack thereof at times with the American government, oh they're out. So get ready for a blitzgreg of garbage like this today, which was from Doge to Smoge. Peter Duttan's coalition is an eerie echo of Trump and Musk's America and an eerie echo of Trump's plans to radically cut government employees. Dunton has recently stepped up his criticism of the growth of the public service, as well as criticizing woke progressive causes. Now, for some people, we're going to have to go back to our old metaphor about Goldilock's politics, where for some people and certainly the left, they're going to say that he's too Trump for the people who want to ignore the practicalities of how you actually can win an election in the cay. Oh, he's not Trump enough. So we've seen a couple of things where he's not going to go the full Trump when it comes to things like a Paris. He's not going to go the full Trump when it comes to things like gender. And you can think what you want about it. But Peter Dudden sort of thinks that the Goldilocks position of what has successfully happened with elections in the UK where it was the Labor Party doing it, but more importantly conservatives in places like New Zealand that have also taken on a whole bunch of woke and of course what happened in the United States and potentially what's about to happen fingers crossed in Canada, is that he thinks that the Goldilocks moment is to focusing yes on social issues where things have got widely out of control, where the people who never ask for permission but just change everything, and then if you argue about it being changed, that somehow you're fighting a culture war to start to give more support to those people to have clearer sense of Australian values and the want to implement them, regardless of the opinion pieces and the handwringing that may happen on parts of social media or taxpayer media, but certainly going after government efficiency in a government that has promised us with their very own intergenerational report that their decisions on spending will put the federal budget into a federal budget deficit for not the next one, five, ten, twenty or thirty years, it's for the next forty. That's where this government has got us. That's why just Enterprise with the facts with the ideas is going to be hell for the Labor Party to deal with. So it'll be very personal and that will be only a greater sign of how effective she and Dunton and the team are going to be at taking on the mob because it is a big mountain, but it's a mountain where they can take some pretty big chunks out of it between now and whenever it is the time that we get to vote now. Interestingly, I've said all this year, and I've thought about it for many years, but I've certainly spoken about it this year that I think that at times our politics has become a little bit too small. I am tired of the daily announcements from political leaders saying we've got one million dollars for this in a local area, hoping that the people in that electorate will all flip and suddenly say, oh wow, are they going to help us out with something, when the reality is that we are not voting for a local councilor of course, we are voting for national leadership and we want big nationwide leadership. Interesting piece today by David Crow, who I normally never agree with in the Cydney Morning Error, but he writes in the Race to be Australia is Lord Mayor alber Easy has spent one point two billion dollars. So this is one point two billion dollars on sort of very small announcements which are all to justify the press conference of the day. I want to see the strength of these people's character to have big ideas, announce them all at the start of the campaign, because a lot of people vote early now like half of people vote before the week of an election, lit alone the actual election. So waiting for the taxpayer funds to dry up when it comes to your travel and announcing things, you know, the fine a week. It doesn't cut mustard with people, and the idea that we need to have an announcement a day to keep everyone happy. No no core values, big ideas, Ramdom home, have a look at this. Labour has ramped up its spending on local projects and a bid dissway voters in some of the toughest battlegrounds in the federal election, pledging more than one point two b four billion dollars this month amid the political rail with the Coalition, who, of course see our previous comments about spending. Local spending ranges from Labor pledging a new aquatic center in Perth to Liberal Party promises to fix lights at suburban cricket fields in Melbourne. The Prime Minister Anthony Aberinezi has promised twelve point seven million dollars for a theater and an arts center in lon Cesson. That's because they want to win the seat of Bass. Five million dollars in Nara for housing projects in Gilmore, six million dollars for the living city projects in Davenport, which of course is all part of the marginal seat in Bradden. Now again, Coalition is guilty of making some of these promises, but it's the Prime minister who's doing the rats and my stuff of one point two billion dollars.

We will have to clean up Labour's mess after the next election as well. The Albanizi government has spent money like drunken salors.

Watch this space. It's not their money. It's not their money that they're dolling out. We shouldn't be thankful for what they promise. It's your money. And yes there are local projects that need to be supported. You're not going to hear a lot of argument about me out of that. But the idea that every single day we're going to say, oh, look, we're here in beautiful insert area to announce insignificant to the rest of the country announcement. Here's the local candidate which no one will see on their television at night, to justify them, standing behind the said leader, nodding, nodding, nodding, nodding, nodding. Everyone holding a brochure with their big plan, tell us your plan. Commit to some big values, some big ideas. Because Australia can cop it, I get it. Compulsory voting means there are a certain number of people who somehow can be BSD and can be bought. But I believe there's a lot of people who know the case for why we need to get rid of the government and do not need to be bought as a way of trying to change the government. It's about values and hammering that nail every single day and speaking in and around of other people's money. Worth noting here Northern Beaches Council in Sydney, beautiful part of Australia, very teal and thanks to the wonderful Don Harwin, he says, with their quotes, there were no Liberals who of course were running for that local council. Of course, you know they forgot to fill out the paperwork, so pretty much Teal or even further left control of one of these beautiful areas that has previously given us great political leaders like Roman Bishop and Tony Abbott. Well, they want to increase their rates on the very people of the Northern Beaches. And yeah, there's some cashed up people there, butch there's a lot of people who aren't, a lot of people who rent, a lot of people who struggle, a lot of families that are holding on tight. They want to put up their rates by forty forty four zero percent. How's this for the excuse from the mayor. The mayor added that the high inflation, storms and floods, COVID and the shifts in cost to council from other areas of government put pressure on the council's ability to maintain services. Now, I have no doubt that there are many local councils that need more money as long as it's four things like potholes. But I cannot help but notice that the Lord Mayor is presiding over a council that is very similar to many other councils around Australia, where they say they're doing it tough, but there's something on their own website which might explain how they're losing their money. This is the mayor. For the last few years. We've had a finely balanced budget, but the gap between the high cost of building and delivering services is outstripping the income from rates. We've found millions in savings year on year, and we continue to look to save costs wherever we can, but it's not enough. Well, I would suggest that the counselor, the Mayor and everyone else on the council just has to look at their own website. There are so many jobs available in local government, and many of them do good old fashioned hard work. But have a look at the amount of money to work for a local council, not across all of Sydney, not across all of New Soid Well, it's not across the country, but in and around one peninsula. Look at some of the jobs they have. Now, I don't know what an application analyst is, but they're going to pay you up to one hundred and fourteen thousand dollars. Surely there is some sort of either unified system that works in all other councils. But the idea that you're going to get one hundred and fourteen thousand dollars to be the application analyst in the council that wants to put up your rates by forty percent the library operations officer. Now, librarians are important, libraries are important, but how do they get paid ninety thousand dollars? Think about what a nurse or a police officer and aged care nurse to work in a library in the Northern Beaches council ninety thousand dollars? And then what about this to be a a spin doctor for the council. You are not fixing a single pothole. You are not handing out any toys to kids ninety six thousand dollars. Now, I know that this does not automatically put all of the money back in the budget, but goodness me, when you are trying to tell the residents we have to put up your rates by forty percent to advertise at the very same time a spin doctor for the best part of one hundred thousand dollars, to me would suggest the priorities just a little skewiff to use the old term. Now, I hope you're a Simpsons fan. If not, you've probably got one in your family. And I always love a little Simpsons reference. Remember that episode when Homer Simpson and a bunch of other people who had sort of outstanding bills or warrants with the Springfield Police Department were sent to note saying you are going to win a speedboat. All you have to do is turn up at the police station, of which many of the people, including Homer, do so to claim their prize. But of course it ends up just being a ruse to arrest them for the thing that they needed to be arrested for in the past. That said Homer of course turns around says after signing the confession there now could I police add my motor boat. Well, an example of this may will have actually played out in New South Wales. It's out of a crime in Wagga involving drugs. So was Police today said they are searching for the missing for the owner of a missing one million dollars. The one million dollars was apparently found in the vehicle of the person whom it was arrested for the drug situation. But police would like to know is anyone missing a million dollars? Could you police come forward and claim your bunny. If there's no claim within sixty days, it'll get forfeited. If there's a claim, obviously we'll go through the processes assessing that, says the Assistant Police Commissioner. But if nobody comes forward to claim that money, then it will ultimately be forfeited to the state of New South Wales. I've got a feeling no one's going to claim the money and hopefully it goes to the pcycs around that local area. Anyone missing him million dollars? If anyone looks particularly frustrated and he is looking a little lighter in the wallet, that might be the person Mori sec here, no sooks, no lefties, and looking forward to talking to Nicole Flint about her battle to herb to get her bid to get boothbe to change its mind and for the country to change its government. Thanks for watching this Monday night here on Paul Murray life as always carry out a champ on a Monday night. Is the great man of common sense, that is the LNP senator from Queensland. Our mate always got a good message behind him, Senator Matt Canavan, lovely to see you, sir. Need zero equals high energy bills. Correct. Freil Leitch does her great work at the Means's Research Center and so often here it's guy news and very pleased to have you both here. So Matt, let's get to the Prime Minister. Oh, we've done everything we can, really, I repeat, sixty three percent of a bottle of Bundanes tax okay, how much on petrol? How much on everything else? The interest rate rises that happened as a result of their decisions, and the Intergenerational Report tells us that the federal budget is going to be in deficit for the next forty years. Does anyone fall for this garbage? You apart from the people at taxpayer funded media who just want to change the subject to Lord Musk.

Lord Musk, well, you have to question now, Paul, why the Prime Minister is standing for reelection. If he's done all he can, why is he trying to have another crack here? I mean, he's effectively washing his hands now of the Australian economy saying there's nothing much more I can do. My work here is done. Good luck Australia. That's the message that the Prime Minister is sending to the rest of us. It's unbelievable. We've got an election. I have to have an election within the next four months and the Prime Minister has zero economic agenda. Now he's just admitted he's done all he can. He's nothing more he can do. Even though we still have some of the highest inflation rate in the world, we have the highest in interest rates in the developed world. And this governments has been increasing public spending like it's going out of fashion. Their first two budgets. We're the biggest spending in terms of new policy decisions outside of the COVID years since the days of Kevin Rutt, and as I often say, at least Kevin Rutt had a global financial crisis to respond to.

We had an excuse.

This government had no alibi for their wasteful government spending. They are, in fact, instead trying to get rid of inflation. They should have been trying to control inflation. They're spending just fuel inflation, and so may while the prim is to say my work here is done, while the rest of us have had a massive drop in our standard living under his leadership.

Freya, That's the point, right, is that people, I mean people are not going to be able to be convinced that their own circumstances are better than they actually are. But certainly I don't want a scenario and we'll get into this in a second where the people who would like to vote for change of government think, oh, all the case has been made. It's been made because they're watching shows like this, reading the reports that you put out there, but them turning around and you can cannot show you what Jim Chalmers said today. Jim Chalmers is out there pretending that again after promising to make everything better, but everything got worse, he's now saying that if you vote for the Coalition, you're going to be seven thousand dollars worse off. How does he get to that number, Well, he's part of his garbage.

Australians would be thousands of dollars worse off if Peter Dutton had his way, and they will be worse off still if he wins the next election. Because of the position that Peter Dutton has taken on tax cuts and energy bill relief and on wages, we know that Australians would be thousands of dollars worse off if he had his way.

Please, that is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, when they broke their promise that they made on ninety two occasions to slash household energy bills by two hundred and seventy five dollars, I think they killed any shred of credibility they have on this supposed economic modeling, And when you look at the sum just that went into it, it's even more ridiculous. So they just need to stop with the fake modeling, like I think they If they just stopped with that, I think that would be better. But then also maybe Albo could just stop with the economic agenda because a lot of the inflation that we're seeing is a result of the extra three hundred and forty seven billion dollars, and you compound that with this push towards renewables, and now you've got extra government spending plus higher energy prices that filter through the entire economy and have flow on impacts everywhere, and that is what is causing our cost of living crisis. So I actually say it's probably a good thing Albo has given up trying to solve this issue because he created it in the first place, and maybe if he just stopped trying to be prime minister, we would have a much better country.

Yeah. I mean, look again, it's up to people to make the argument, not just for us to know it and spread the information, but I mean the idea that this tactic Matt, that they're going to turn around and say, oh, everything's going to be worse under done. It's been worse under them. I mean, people can't be gas lid to that level, can they.

Well, I don't think people put much weight to in economic modeling because they're more savvy than that. I am an economist. I've done economic modeling, and the old joke is true that if you ask an economist how much two plus two equals, he'll tell you, well, how much would you like it too equal, And that's clearly what happened here. They started with their answer and worked backwards. In fact, when you look at detail, you look, you've got to look at the detail of economic modeling. The assumptions are so important. The seven thousand dollars you mentioned, almost all of that, get this. Almost all of that seven thousand dollars is the Stage three tax cuts that the Liberal Party put in the budget. Liberal National Party put in the budget. That's their economic agenda. Now they changed it slightly, they changed those tax cuts slightly, but that money in the budget, the money was put aside by the former LMP government and now they're trying to claim credit for that, and it's about the full extent of their economic agenda. So it's absolutely absurd. And of course people is the Treasurer trying to say people feel seven thousand dollars better off under this government, because the other thing he says there is he reckons that the wage growth would be as low as it was under the Morrison government, not the slightly higher it's been under this government. But of course the wages have been growth has been high because inflation has been higher, and people have still gone backwards because that inflation is not factored into this modeling.

Yeah, look, let's talk about Trump because the winning just kept going over the weekend. The Secretary of Defense has gone from beleagued nominee to sworn in. Couple three senator's voted against it. Surprise surprise. Mitch McConnell is the former Senate leader's going to start trying to do Trump dirty. Wasn't able to happen. Columbia people who were illegal immigrants who have been charged with crimes in the United States. They were to be deported. The Columbian president blows up, we will not take the flight. Well, after a couple of phone calls and not even halfway through a round of golf that got flipped back the other way Freyer surprise surprise. But he's often a good start.

It's so good. I mean America. It's felt like America has been asleep for the last four years, missing in action. Where have they gone? But now with Trump back at the helm, at the lead as the leader of the free world, they are so back and it is so good to see. It's like every single day I'm struggling to keep up with the amount of wins that Trump is making. I'm having to watch Sky every night to just keep up with all the news because it is it is so much every day he's doing something else. And so I think Columbia is right to back down. And I think anyone that tries to stand up to America and go against Trump is going to get absolutely crushed.

Matt. What I like as well is that I like decisive leadership. Right now, I don't agree with everything that's being said, and that all the rest of it. No one's pretending that right. You want someone perfect in politics, run for it yourself. But the wins are clear, and in part they come from not just the decisions made in the transition team. They come from the values that were known in the first term but absolutely established over the last two years. And that's the message for everyone in one to change the government. You don't make an announcement four days before the election and wow, every one or four No, what are the values? What are the big ideas? And ram at home.

Well, you're right, Paul, And obviously Donald Trump is not your typical politician. And one of the things that seemed to mark him out is he actually does what he says. A lot of people felt before twenty sixteen that they were he was not to be taken literally just seriously, but he is. He does do what he says, and that shocks a lot of people, but I think it's also refreshing for a lot. One of the best examples of the last week that I think that I've seen that you didn't mention earlier was his trip to LA where he had that roundtable and he just ran the cameras and exposed the inept leadership there and particularly the local concerns of people. Now he is president, but it's about time that the bully pulpit has made a return, that he can use that pulpit to basically just threaten and cajole and push some local political leaders who clearly weren't being responsible to their own local cons These are all went to sort of planning laws, and apparently now next Monday, LA residents are allowed back on their property surprise surprise, after Donald Trump went out there and embarrassed the LA leadership, but for some reason, they weren't letting property owners, homelowners go back into their own properties to clean things up.

I had an idea to play that very exchange. But a last we are out of time because we had such a good discussion. Thank you Freyer, Thank you very much, Sanata. We'll talk to you guys again next week after the break. If the bricks need to be removed to the current government, it needs to be done to seat by seed. One of the people trying to do that is Nicole Flint in the seat of Boothby in South Australia. She's one of our favorites. She's back in the fight and better than ever before. She joins us next from Adelaide. All right, the race to seventy six, what's going to happen. Plenty of things need to go right for the coalition and that means they need to win lots of seats and they need to have the best people trying to fight for those seats. One of them is the wonderful Nicole Flint. We've seen it plenty of times here on Sky News. But she's back in the fight right now, going back for the seat that she represented for multiple terms, of course, the seat of Boothby, and she joins us now, mate, love to see you. You're in the fight, you're fired up, You've never looked better, and you never look more energized. You look like you're you're ready for this one.

I certainly am, Paul, because I am determined to save my community and do my part to save the Australian people from Anthony Albanezi and his incompetent government. It really is that simple. I have never ever seen my community, my local residents, my small businesses in so much economic pain and it's just unacceptable.

How do you think people in your part of South Australia are going to react when the Prime Minister says, as he did in a rally last year, the worst of it's behind us today. We've done everything we can when it comes to interest rates. How do you reckon it goes down in the real world.

It doesn't go down, Paul. And I'm just going to share with you through three three examples of how everyone in my community is hurting, and they're hurting in different ways. But one of the earliest phone calls I got when I became when I was announced as the candidate again, was from a lady Maria, Lovely, lovely lady. She's in her eighties, so it's her husband and she was in tears saying to me, Nicole, I don't know how I'm going to pay my power bill. She just bought an electric chair and an electric bed for her health reasons, and she said, we live a very simple life. We are so careful with our money. The next decision I'm going to have to make is whether we whether we cut our health insurance or not, because I don't think we can pay our power bill and we don't know how to make ends meet. The second example is one of my wonderful small businesses. It's a cafe. Ryan's run it for a couple of years, survived COVID, but was saying to me, you know, mid last year, I don't know if I'll make it to the end of the year because rent costs, insurance, power costs, and food input costs have just gone through the roof and again. And of course his customers aren't spending like they used to because they don't have the money. And then just last week, Paul, I've been doing a lot of door knocking. I door knocked six hundred and twenty five homes in some pretty aggressive Adelaide heat last week. But that does not stop me because, as you remarked, I've never been in better shape and better health. But I door knocked a young couple who've got kids who are in high school, and it's in a really nice suburb, a lovely house in a nice suburb. But you know, they're not living in a mansion. They've got a lovely home. They said, they're both frontline public sector workers. So they said to me, we look at real estate dot Com every single day because we are probably going to have to sell our house if we want to keep our kids in private school and give them the best education we can. So they are the real world decisions that my local residents have being forced to make an up being forced to make because of the ubernezy labor government. This is very real, and people are hurting, and labor are incapable of turning their economic mess around.

And I think this is where, you know, the professional political class they're going to say, oh, look, you know, if we focus on Peter Dutton, if we do some ads of him in black and white with some all good book of music and we say cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts, that everyone's going to think, oh, you know, their medicare is going to be taken away from the I think that people are far more sophisticated than that stuff. And I think that certainly the vibe is much different, and they're resistant to it. At the end of the day, this bloke promised to make it better. Every indicy, it's worse. And it doesn't matter if the Reserve Bank fingers crossed for that couple you're talking about, for my own life and for everyone else watching right, hopefully, Yeah, interest rates do come down, but they went up twelve times on their watch. They decided to increase taxation on petrol. They decided to increase taxation on and I keep talking about it. This bottle of Bundy rum. Sixty three percent of it is tax all right. I want people when they go to the bottolow to not just see the options, but to see tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax. When you go to the servo, tax, tax, tax, tax, axtion, it's all there. And it's not that the money is being turned around and spent on things that are going to improve people's lives. Instead, it's billions of dollars to make sure that old people will vote labor before they preference the Greens on things like student debt. They decided in their priorities that in one of their first actions as a government to remove the low and middle income tax offset, which was the guaranteed fifteen hundred dollars tax return to every one. There was ten million people who lost that money. These people might well claim that they are of the people, but they couldn't be more disconnected, and it comes down to their own lived experience. Every MP has got not one with three pay rises since the last election, including the biggest in a decade.

It's just an extraordinary poll. And just on taxes. We had a fantastic announcement last week that will do more to help my struggling cafes, restaurants and pubs. And they are the businesses that have felt this economic crisis the most because they are businesses that are pretty early on when people look at what their discretionary spending is, they say, nope, we're just actually not going to go out and have coffee in the morning. We're not going to go out and have brunch, we won't go out for lunch or dinner. That's one of the first things people start cutting. So we announced the twenty thousand dollars up to twenty thousand dollar tax right off for small businesses with a turnover under ten million dollars and that, so that to get them into our cafes, restaurants and our pubs so they can take their stuff out to say thank you for the hard work you're doing, so they take their clients out for a meal. Because at the moment, if small businesses do that, they have to pay fringe benefits tax, and it's not a tax right off. So we've done something directly addressing one of the problem in the tax system because big businesses, big corporates who have their own boardrooms or in house catering don't have to pay FBT, so it's just hurting small businesses. But labor came out and attacked it and Jason Clair and others Murray Whatt saying that this was to help the big end of town. The big end of town has a turnover well over ten million dollars. This is firmly focused at helping our cafes and our restaurants and our pubs and also helping small businesses out in the community. Whether your trade is rewarding your staff, whether you're the local accountant wanting to bring your stuff in or or your clients in to have a breakfast meeting or a coffee, whatever it is, we are doing practical things that will make practical differences to small businesses, operations, but also to the lives of all of my local residents who, as I've explained, cannot make ends meet and are looking at having to make decisions that they absolutely don't want to make and they shouldn't have to make. Paul and Australians were not having to say do I keep paying my private health insurance or turn.

My power on?

Or do I sell my house or put my kids through private school? They were not having They were not forced. Australians were not forced to make these decisions when we were in government.

You are a powerhouse. I loved you in the Parliament. I love you out of the parliament, but I want you back in that parliament. Niicole Flin dot com that I knew all the information. If you are around, volunteer back the lady in because she should be in the parliament and we love having her on the show. Thank you mate. We'll talk to you very soon. All right, that's our chef and I we'll see you again tomorrow. Nudger Forras joining us from London. But so much more that

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