Paul Murray Live | 21 January

Published Jan 21, 2025, 12:22 PM

Paul provides an update on National Cabinet's meeting to address rising antisemitism in Australia. Plus, Donald Trump is back and so is America, and the alarming assault statistics coming out of Victoria's schools.

From the sky in Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank you, Sherry Would of the man K.

Breaking news is that we have some result out of National Cabinet which has met in the past few hours to discuss what to do with the situation involving antisemitism and the antisemitism attacks that have now resulted in, as you know, the firebombing of a childcare center. Now I understand that the meeting was convened well the best.

Part of four hours ago.

They spoke for a significant amount of time, but the results are not impressive. The Prime Minister has released the following statement that all that has come of today's National Cabinet meeting is leaders agreed today to establish a national database to track anti Semitic crime and antisemitic incidents and behaviors. The Commonwealth will work with state and territories to develop the database. The purpose of one national apporting system is to better inform and coordinate responses to anti Semitic incidents.

That's it.

You saw Chris Mins in an excellent invidew with Sharry Markson speaking about hate laws and how hate laws in Western Australia should form the model of what will be brought into place in New South Wales. Where is the discussion of such legislation in that National Cabinet meeting which took place today. Literally here it is one, two, three, four pages from the Prime Minister. Literally the Prime Minister convened today to address the shocking anti Semitic crimes.

Pad pad pad pad pad pad.

They unequivocally condemn anti Semitism and reaffirm to stamp it out in Australia. Pad pad pad with old announcements. It's also a collection of data that's come from press releases from state police agencies in the past few months.

Now.

No one is going to be able to solve the scourge of anti Semitism in one afternoon. But the idea that a Prime Minister who's been drag kicking and screaming to the meeting that he has had this afternoon with all of the people in charge of all of the police forces in all of the states, that the best that they can come up with is let's get a whiteboard and keep score of what's going on. I'll have more to say about it a little bit later, but that is the breaking news which is coming out of Canberra as we speak. More from the Prime Minister no doubt about this tomorrow, but of course the focus for us, and why.

Wouldn't it be.

We've been on the journey the whole way, from the Golden Escalator all the way through to meeting a president, the exile of twenty twenty, the return to the political arena in twenty twenty two, and the triumphant victory in twenty twenty four. Yeah, I'm going to talk about Trump tonight, but like most shows, we always try to find a different way of doing it, and we'll have a better and longer conversation with Analyse Nilsen, because I want to start to look forward as well as look back as to what has happened in the past twenty four hours. Also, the Prime Minister was absolutely blown away today by Chris Mins. Chris Mins didn a phenomenal job and to see the Prime Minister of Australia reduced to a nodding head at somebody else's press conference tells you everything about how diminish the Prime Minister has become. And a bit more information about cricket and Australia Day, including some new polling which tells us just exactly.

Whom are the people who would like to change the date. Surprise, surprise, it.

Is not a majority of people, But how can I not take a moment? And I know I've heard about it all day, but please forgive me for having my say. Today was an extraordinary day for those of us that have followed the story of Donald Trump and care about the future of the United States. Put simply, today can be described in a series of images.

Out with the old as.

Biden was packed out the back door, and in with the new, as a new president was sworn in. The day started in a church, It ended in a spectacular series of ballroom dancers. It was a day of endless ceremony, something that America is unique in its ability to mesh many parts of its culture with its politics. Of course, the Brits do things beautifully for the Royals, and there are plenty of places in other parts of the world that do a good ceremony. But when America turns it on, unsurprisingly, they always turn it up to eleven. Which is why I loved that the speech that Donald Trump delivered in the early hours of this morning Australian time, bang on midday in Washington, d C. It annoyed all the right people. He stood right in front of the person who wanted to be president and the current president and just verbally smacked them about the room. Put simply their behavior, their actions over the past four years gave a rebirth to Donald Trump and created the very moment that they had to sit through today. The speech that was watched by the powerful, be they financial and business tycoons or the people who have had their turn at leading the United States, But more importantly, it was cheered on by millions of people who never gave up, people who took to heart fight fight fight when when win and they had their moment to savor today. These people have lost friends, jobs, all the things that have come with supporting Donald Trump, but today was their day. And as always on momentous occasions or elections, I always try to circle in on to five things, five things to remember, five things that we've learned, five things that stood out to me. And again some of these will be different than what you have heard all day long.

This is the biggest story in the world. Why wouldn't we give it the coverage that we have both live, which started this morning at three o'clock. I was thankful to be there with Pete and then Laura for a big part of the morning and of course into primetime here on Sky News. But five things that we learned about upon Trump's return to power. His speech was fierce and it was fearless.

After being sworn in, every president has the opportunity to frame with soaring rhetoric or straight talk, their sense of where the country is and where they want the country to go. For the soaring rhetoric part, the bit for the history books, the grab that is played in the montages for years to come. This was Trump's effort.

The golden age of America begins right now. From their stay forward, our country will flourish and be respected again all over the world. We will be the envy of every nation, and we will not allow ourselves to be taken advantage of any longer. During every single day of the Trump administration, I will very simply put America first.

I mentioned the part of the speech where he was just verbally giving it to the people who tried to put him in jail, who tried to scandalize him, who effectively defeated him four years ago. But because of the decisions that they made, chiefly and most importantly dismantling a border protection system that Trump had established that worked, that resulted in open borders that they pretended weren't open, where the person in the vice presidency had responsibility for the root causes. She became the borders are but then they told us that wasn't her title, and millions of people entered the United States illegally. And the United States, like Australia and any other great country around the world, is built on immigration. We need people to come from all over the world to commit to the future and the prosperity and the blank pages of history yet to be written by our great countries. But what makes a country a country is a border. A border that is defended. A border that can be defended, yes, by your army, your navy, and your air force, but it must be defended by making sure that the people who cross into that border are people who have raised the tests for citizenship or will come and go as visitors to your country. Anything else means you don't have a country. And while there may be a small sliver of people who may meet in everywhere from Davos to a beatnik club in the nineteen sixties who don't think that countries should have borders, we all demand that those borders are defended. The failure to do so by Biden and Harris in part was a stirring reason while the American peace people who had rejected him four years earlier went back into his embrace and rather than tell stories after the event of what you wish you could have said, or what you might have said in private, Donald Trump did it for the world to see, and it was magnificent.

We now have a government that cannot manage even a simple crisis at home, while at the same time stumbling into a continuing catalog of catastrophic events abroad. We have a government that has given unlimited funding to the defense of foreign borders, but refuses to defend American borders or more importantly, its own people. By recent election, has a mandate to completely and totally reverse a horrible betrayal and all of these many betrayals that have taken place, and to give the people back their faith, their wealth, their democracy, and indeed their freedom. From this moment on, America's decline is over now.

It is depending where you were watching and what you were watching. But some of the TV pictures were wide enough to see the discomfort, the obvious discomfort of Joe Biden, who you could tell was half wanting to roll his eyes and half wanting to heckel and Kamala Harris, who of course dreamt that this would be her day, was grinding her teeth as hard as you could possibly imagine while trying to pretend that she wasn't showing it. But the message that Trump delivered was not just too the current administration, but it was to the living presidents in the room. The living presidents who presided over an explosion in government spending under Obama, the Forever Wars under George W. Bush, and the trade deals that resulted in better deals for countries other than the United States Bill Clinton. They too, were just as uncomfortable as they should be. Trump will be, no doubt criticized for not following the usual path here of saving such things for a private dinner, but Trump doesn't do it that way. Whether you like or don't like Trump, you have to admire a person who is willing to be that direct. It doesn't mean that they're automatically right. I happen to believe that he is, but I would prefer that sort of transparency and directness rather than people spilling their true thoughts in a book years after they no longer have any consequence or are not in a position to actually change people's lives. Which brings me to the second thing that we learned about on Trump's return to office today, as forty five became forty seven, voters wanted change and they got change today. From the moment it was clear that he was going to not just win the swing States, not just win the electoral College, but eventually win the popular vote, there is an absolute and clear mandate that the country was headed in the wrong direction. We knew it in polls, we knew it in our guts, But the result of that election couldn't have been clearer. The country had gone too far down the wrong track, which is why it elected Donald Trump in the fashion in which it did. And one thing that a president can do on day one is to sign a series of executive orders. Now these do not work as laws, but they work as directions to everyone in the federal government, from the person who will see you a stamp in the.

Post office, all the way through to the High.

Command of the Pentagon, from the Education Department to the Transportation Department, the health sector, environment, and today Trump chose change, not one little change, but many many changes, order after order after order after order, stretching from controversial pardons of people involved in January the sixth all the way through to common sense about gender. And he wanted everyone to see, you hired me to change things. Let's change things.

So this is a big one. That's a big one. That's a big one. Posessions, Oh, that's a big one. That's a big one. I love it again.

Not behind closed doors with somebody pushing a press release out at five minutes to midnight, Bring the cameras in, bring the world in. And amazingly as he was doing this, and think about this as a comparison to the man who much, if not all, of the US media was trying to tell us was the smartest and greatest president at the absolute height of his intellectual powers, when we knew Joe Biden was crumbling from before he took on the presidency, let alone when he fell up the stairs in his first year, or fell asleep at conferences, or completely collapsed before.

Our very own eyes.

At that election debate, Joe Biden barely spoke to the media. He barely led in the reporters to ask whatever questions they want and answer them as if he was playing a game of tennis. Well, like any player who's currently doing phenomenal things in Melbourne, Donald Trump wasn't just playing tennis with the reporters. He was playing it with both hands.

Full pardon.

We have about sex commutations and there.

Would you think about ordering US special forces into the.

Mexico to take them out? Could happen?

What's going to be your priority or foreign policy?

It's going to be to keep America safe.

How do you plan to end the crane worn Well, we're going.

To try and get it done as correctly as place.

Again, I love this rock and roll Now.

Four eight years ago, people referred to this as chaos because it was the first time that a modern American president had done multiple things in one day. You see the way that things are supposed to work, the way they've always worked, The way that people have come to expect the communication to come from the most powerful office in the world, is that it's one thing a day, or it's one message a week, because the dear people only need to be fed every now and then to be reminded that there is someone in charge of their country. Trump runs at a break neck pace. He is a bull in a china shop, and that does mean that things get broken. And eight years ago there were plenty of things that seemed like in the early days they were being broken. But it feels like in twenty twenty five things are being targeted to be broken up, reformed, and to use the lefty term, built back better. Anyone who knows and loves the United States knows that it is a wonderful, incredible country. But it is one with incredible flaws. And one of its flaws is the distance between its citizens and the people in charge now, Donald Trump, and every decision that he will make may well please or displease plenty.

Of people, But what they asked for was change, and by goodness, did they get it. Today.

Number three Biden proved exactly why Trump is back in office. Let's go in the way back machine to when it was Joe Biden's moment to assume the presidency. This was what he said about his plan for the country, and this is what he said about the concept of giving people in your own family a magical get out of jail free.

Cod uniting our people, uniting in our nation, uniting to fight the foes.

We face with unity.

Well, it's it concerns me in terms of what kind of precedence sets and how the rest of the world looks at us as a nation of laws and injustice. You're not going to see an our administration that kind of approach to pardons.

And as I say on the internet as you scroll light at night, this is how it started, this is how it ends.

The only garbage I see floating down there is his.

Supporters major breaking news coming from now former President Joe Biden. He has issued pardons for multiple members of his family, his siblings and their respective spouses. And I just want to read for everyone a part of the president's statement, the former president's statement explaining why he just to take really this extraordinary move.

And unbelievably many of these pardons extend to the members of his family whom we know to be part of the pay portrayal of peddling influence, which is why the pardons are not for the past twelve months or for the past two years. Some of these pardons go all the way back to when he was the vice president of the United States, all the way back to twenty and fourteen, when Hunter was being paid millions of dollars for a job that he was clearly not qualified for, and his brother James was involved in the operation that business.

Partners said had a cut for the big guy.

Again, Biden has yet again proven why Trump is back in the Oval office and he is hitting the bricks.

President Baden, who would going to Piden and his whole family because that makes him look very guilty.

I could have pardon my family. I could have pardoned myself my family.

And I said, if I do that, it's going to make me look very guilt out, or they're going to be sitting here.

Frankly.

Fourth thing, establishment media in the United States has learnt nothing, nothing since the election. Now, as I said on the rooftop in Washington back in November.

Part of the result was a rejection of the media that had scandalized anything to do with Donald Trump in the four years when he was not president. And in my view, many of the people who ended up voting for Trump, well, they don't engage with this media anymore now that at times can have all sorts of consequences for a democracy.

But they ruined their reputation. They cried wolf too many times. And now you would have thought after an election that they would at least balance up some of their panels. Instead, No, it's all a collection of people from the same media organizations who called him Hitler, pushing the same stories that the world was going to end should he become elected, all pushing the stories there was no chance he was going to win because the poles were so tired. The poles were so tired. They haven't balanced those people up. They don't have people who represent the benefit of the doubt position for Donald Trump, let alone the full Maga advocacy. Instead, it's all the same people who were wrong eight years ago were wrong four months ago, all bringing in the same token representatives of the Trump world to war wave their fingers and snarl. Just some of the nonsense that has been running today in the American media, including garbage on the people who are barely coping with the election result, let alone the reality of Trump returning.

To the presidency.

Who are pretending that rather than the weather that the experts, the science told us was going to be the worst in forty years, and that was the decision why everything decided to go inside. Now they want the lefty Jiti mind trick for you to completely forget what the weather guy was telling us about what was going to be happening in Washington today and get ready for this as the first hoax of the new Trump era.

The obsession of Trump's rhetoric is always a theme of national decline and national humiliation. It's a little like a cult leader who keeps predicting different days for the end of the world.

Quote as Trump disparate as migrants as criminals and outlines as plans, They're not just million There are not millions and millions of criminal aliens as he claims. Today, a largely white crowd is applied in the rotunda.

Chief amongst them Joey Reid from MSNBC. Listen to this garbage for wine.

It was indoors, presumably because of the weather, though I should know that today's chili conditions were similar to those at President Obama's first and outdoors inauguration in two thousand and nine, calling many to speculate that the move indoors had more to do with concerns that Trump couldn't draw a sufficiently large crowd.

What seriously, there weren't even fifty thousand protesters who turned up.

Eight years ago. It was allegedly immediate I'm.

Pretty sure that if things were held as they were planned to be.

Held, that there would have been probably a bigger crowd.

I would not dare predict the exact number, but a way bigger crowd than twenty sixteen, because people will proudly wear a mega hat now and it barely gets a hiss. Not because every person in America agrees, but because the country was headed in the wrong direction, and the majority of people in the states that out of the most and in fact overall, the majority of people who voted in the election in November agreed. Anyone suggesting, oh, there's no way they would have turned up to mark the occasion is living in a fantasy land, a fantasy land where they will gladly profit. But enjoy your time coping, because you're going to be coping day after day after day. And then there was this garbage over on CNN. Elon Musk gave a speech inside the center where the parade took place. Oh, but is that a Nazi salute that he just did?

You saw him come out with that odd looking salute. Yeah, it was odd looking. We're going to show a screen grab of it. And as he said to him, the future of civilization is assured now that Trump.

Won, so.

They can run it without the sound or you may will have seen a picture, but here's what actually happened in real time, and they were in the room to see it.

My heart goes out here. It is thanks to you that the future of civilization is a shirt.

Thanks to you, we're.

Gonna have safe cities, finally, safe cities, secure borders, sensible spending, basic stuff, and we're going to take Dosee to Mars.

It was about his heart.

Oh, the still frame meant we can get back into Trump is terrible. They're all Nazis.

And finally the fifth one, Baron Trump's a boss six foot nine in the old language or bloody tall in Bogan. How good does this bloke go? He's obviously just off at university right now.

Remember he was ten when Trump became president for the first time. I love that he was rolling his eyes at some of the stuff that was going on today, particularly with Elon Musk cheering, but he owned every moment when his name was called out. He's loving it. And does anyone see a third Trump term sometime in the future, But maybe it's barn I just took that suggestion in to annoy the same people who didn't actually look at the footage of what happened in America today. And again back to that Elon Musk situation, you get the feeling that Baron probably is spending too much time around Elon, or Elon is spending too much time around Donald because he couldn't hide when he was yelling in the Donald's moment.

I love that kid. Huge future ahead, all right, we'll talk.

To Anealise Nelson in a few minutes time about the forward looking here, we all know what happened today, what is into the future, and what is different about America in Trump's second and final term as president of the United States. But first let me turn our attention to the Prime Minister and what I opened the show with convence National Cabinet months after it was first suggested, in fact, more than a year after it was first suggested by Peter Dutton to deal with the anti Semitic attacks, the latest of which was this fire bombing of the daycare center in the eastern suburbs of Sydney. Now, bizarrely, when all of this was playing out on breakfast television this morning, and I was sitting next to Pete Stefanovic. We saw some footage coming in that the Prime Minister was turning up. Now, the Prime Minister is always welcome to go wherever he wishes at any one time, but it was a little bit odd that the Prime Minister was there well as the fieries were this morning.

Well, I'm here to see firsthand what is clearly a despicable crime.

It's to.

Talk with the local community as well with premium mints.

Thank you think I am a lot.

Now again, I know there's not a Goldilocks thing here where if you come to early or you wait too late. And what's the exact moment for a prome minius uel or visit.

Well, I would suggest within a couple of hours of this it felt a little bit early, but presumably he was close enough either at home in Marrickville, but remember at home in Sydney's careabillity, So he's got across the bridge, go across all the rest of it.

And basically he was reacting to what he was seeing on TV at the time and the fact that it involved a childcare center. Men that we now know that we're hitting a new level with all of this. But again, national cabinet. It meets today, it meets for hours, and all it comes up with is let's have a database. Let's just keep score of what's going on.

Now.

Remember he might want to own that this was what he wanted to do, but he was dragkicking and screaming. Dunton first suggested this in twenty twenty three.

What we want and what people want to see isn't more meetings. They want action and what people want to see isn't more meetings. So I want to see more action.

And then there was this weird moment where the Prime Minister decided to do a press conference with the Premier of New South Wales and the Premier of New South Wales in political terms, in performance terms, blew the Prime Minister off the park.

It breaks your heart that we have animals in our city that are prepared to burn down a childcare center to make this point. It is completely disgusting and these bastards will be round up by New South Wales police.

Compare the pair who looks like the leader of the country and who just looks like the passenger at that press.

Conference this morning, As Chris has said, I spoke with him with Rabbi Goldstein. He said to me words that will stick with me. He said, peace, light and love. That's what Australia is about, and indeed that is what people of faith are about as well spreading that harmony.

The problem for the Prime Minister is passion. Now you cannot fake it. You either believe it or you don't. You either think that the country is starting to day by day, event by event, go further and further down the wrong track, or you are responding to what you think is a concern in the community that you don't share. Judge them not just on what they say, but what they do. And in the case the Prime Minister today, eventually, when he had every important person in Australian government in the same room, he turns around and makes a decision.

To establish a database.

Speaking of keeping school, there is a horrible score which is playing out in the schools of Australia. You know I care because I've got two little ones in primary school. But I know you care because it's the future of the country. Particularly in Victoria. Today, the Herald Sign had incredible data that ninety thousand students have been suspended in Victorian schools in the pre COVID year all the way to twenty twenty three. The documents which were obtained by the Herald Sun and the freedom of information laws revealed the true extent of student suspensions. At two hundred and fifty schools, eighty seven thy twenty one, eighty seven students are suspended each and every day. This is up by thirty three zero percent since twenty nineteen. Jeez, I wonder what happened in Victoria between twenty nineteen and two and twenty three. Oh, that's right, the world's longest lockdowns where no one was allowed to go to school, where the kids in the roughest homes were locked in with their abuses to flatten the curve over fourteen days, and then to keep us safe, and then to get a government reelected as it was taking taxpayer funds to poll the electorate about what was popular on what was not. The reality was that if you fail your kids, you fail our future. The Victorian government and any government, any government, and many of which the leaders or the governments themselves have gone. Any government that presided over the disgrace that they did when it came to kids in our schools being kept at home in the most formative years of their life, be it at kindergarten or all the way to year twelve, should be ashamed of themselves and should be wiped from the history books. If you have an opportunity to vote them out, vote them out. Meantime, the age has got some more data which extends on the reporting of the Herald Sun today, and it is about the amount of assaults that are taking place. Again, we're talking in one state here. Assaults in Victorian schools have served by about fifty percent in the past two years. Jesus wondered what had happened prior to that. Teachers now say that their workplace is becoming dangerous. Schools reported more than sixhundred assaults in just one year, the year of twenty twenty three June to June twenty twenty four. To have a look at this in graph form, the number of assaults and related offenses that have been happening in schools, that's the.

Red line, way up, way up.

Meantime, the amount of stalking and harassment offenses again, way up. A disgraceful indictment on a disgraceful government, on a series of disgraceful decisions which has let a generation go adrift more.

In a moment here on Paul Murray Live.

Remember you can always send an email paultzgdews dot com dot AU Analyst Nielson in the States. Yeah, we know what happened today, but let's start to look forward because the sun's coming up on the first full day of Trump's second term. Thank you so much for watching. Analyst Nielsen has had a front seat to all things Trump two point zero from the announcement of his candidacy all the way through to the election, and of course was part of an excellent cover if.

I do say so ourselves, it's Sky News from the middle of the night to now the end of the night. Here many many hours later, she joins us now from Washington, DC, where it's just gone five point thirty in the morning. Mate, you are the energizer, Bunny, you just keep going. Well done made. Congrats to you the team and everyone else.

Chris as well with this show has been absolutely fabulous and Tom with all the great details. So I do want to spend much of this conversation looking forward, because we've all done the highlight reel and people who are watching it this time in the night have seen it many times over. But what to you was most striking about being in that arena when there was not just the parade. There was a speech of course by the President, much more informal speech to one that he had made at the inaugural, but also those executive orders where that change that people had voted for. Am I sort of onto something here that they wanted it, so he gave it to them, and he gave it to them via a fire hose.

I heard one journalists say that they were drowning in news lines, and I think that is exactly how it's felt, and it's because we've had the water cut off for so long. I mentioned this previously that news organizations when the Biden administration came in, they said that there's not going to be news broken on the weekend. So they had just skeleton staff at the White House on the weekends. Now, news will happen when it happens. And Donald Trump had that impromptu press conference last night, this is what people expect from the White House, and for four years they've had this kind of drip feeding of information from an administration that said that they were the most transparent administration in history. Last night, when Donald Trump had his press conference, his Press secretary Caroline Levett was saying, this is what transparency looks like, and that is true. As he was signing the executive orders, he was taking questions from reporters and he was really answering them. And so this is going to be the new normal. There will be news broken when it breaks, be reactive, and I'm sure it's not always going to be as amenable as it was yesterday. I'm sure there'll still be tense moments. We saw that in the past. There were times when we saw that. Apparently Donald Trump ordered every single journalist off the White House campus and his staff had to distract him because they simply can't do that. But what we are seeing is what the American people expected. And Paul, I tell you, for the last four years, when I've traveled around America and I tell them what I do, tell people what I do in Washington, DC, and they want to know all about it, the first question they'll say, is who's actually running the country. From today, everyone knows who's running the country.

It's Donald Trump.

And look again, what was important to see here was that the interaction with the reporters while he was signing stuff. It wasn't sort of a bunch of North Korean reporters which were saying, do you leader, why is everything amazing? Could you please tell us why you're amazing?

It wasn't a rushing the questions measured.

Yeah it was, or you're literally being called out.

Remember Biden used to stand there with those cards saying I've been told I have to ask, and the whole charade that played out over the past four.

Years, and the whole question would be there.

Yeah, that was the garbage. So again, it is going to be fractious. There are going to be consequences to decisions that are made.

There is going to be things.

But something that I found interesting about the difference between when he came in the first time when he comes in now, is that built into the coverage, the word chaos, which was all sort of the key word for every decision and every thing, like those press conferences. That was built into the narrative of how everyone had to consume the news and that news at all hours of any day. That doesn't exist this time around, does it? Because not only does he know what he's doing, but he's got a professional series of people around him who were his people. He had to compromise with staff at the start, and yeah, he was bumping into the furniture, but he's got people around him, including the person who ran his campaign, Susie Wilde, who is an absolute genie at making sure you shut down leaks, keep things focused, and keep things on the message of the day.

Absolutely.

I think it was just the sense the first time around that everyone was so shocked they got in there. And I think having four years out of the place and it wasn't necessarily the worst thing for him, Having to fight against all these legal cases, I think has really focused him in on getting back in. But these are serious people he surrounded himself with, and that wasn't the assumption going into this. We've watched him with his appointments for the cabinet secretary positions. The business community is really happy with the people he's put in for, especially those economic portfolios. And at the end of the day, that's what Donald Trump wants. He wants to point at the stock market and say I did that, and every American, sixty percent of Americans have at least some kind of investment in the stock market through four oh one K retirement savings or some other investment mechanism. So this stock market does matter. There'll be people that tell you that this is a rich people thing.

It's not. It's a really ordinary American thing.

But also just having gas prices come down that is huge. I cannot tell you how many small business owners I've talked to over the last year, and when they all work on small margins and just put their heart and souls into businesses, it will often be the transportation costs the things that is the thing that kills them. And so to say that we're going to start getting oil drilling back, We're going to get in a position where we're not having a Russian oil going through around all these sanctions and actually costing the American tax payer more. At the end of the day, these are all things that are going to make a huge difference. And also just the signaling of Trump coming back in saying I care about business, We're doing this. We're going to see more investment coming into America to keep Trump happy. That's a good thing for Americans and it's a good thing for the economy. It's going to be what changes the tone of everything. Same with immigration. The tone matters, and he's already said that time.

Well, and I remember I was watching one of the mini speeches in the middle of the night and probably on the phone. Are you going, what do you think of this? What do you think of that? We've talked a lot in the past twelve months. My apologies to your wonderful husband.

But I want to know what you thank you.

God loved you well.

Is that Trump would make all of these announcements During the campaign. We would talk about that if you were a company that was operating outside of America and you brought your manufacturing base back to America, your corporate tax rate would be lower than anyone else's corporate tax rate.

He's set a whole bunch of stuff.

But because everyone was focused on you know, well, trying to play the outrage playbook of twenty twenty or following the you know he is Hitler garbage that was being rolled out, they weren't paying attention to these announcements. So all of this has been foreshadowed, all of this has been promised. None of this to this point is any sort of a surprise. Yet the images that people will wake up to and the breakfast TV shows start in about fifteen minutes over there no doubt they will do the first bit about the speech and the second bit about Jesus by and pardons, and then they will eventually get around to the consequences of some of those decisions on day one, and people who had been put in jail in relation to what they did or what the government was able to convince a jury that they did on January the sixth, those people are going to start to come out of jail. They are coming out of jail as we speak. There are going to be attempts to remove people with criminal records who were in the country illegally, and that's going to be some messy pictures. So you can control things in a speech. You can control things when you're in the Oval office. But when the pictures are people coming out of prison or inevitably tears being shed as the person who is being booted out of the country, who should have been booted out of the country is being booted out of the country, how do you think that plays in the next twenty four hours.

There's a reason Trump's doing all this on day one, because he has such good will built up at this point.

And I don't say that to Fangol.

I say that because this is the reality of this election result, the fact he got the popular vote, the electoral college vote, that he won every swing state, that people were so frustrated with Biden having such clear cognitive decline over the last few years and being told that he was fine, the deep distrust in government. Donald Trump is coming in on a high, so he's doing these really unpopular things now and then.

He's going to move on and the headlines will move on.

It was really anticipated for anyone who's been paying attention that these January six people would get a pardon. He's been saying this for years. He promised his base. He doesn't tend to let his base down on things like that that matter. The only thing he's really a sidestepped from his original hardline position has been around abortion. And that's because they took so many hits again and again, especially in the midterms. It was just kind of they had to see the writing on the wall. But this was going to happen. I think when you look at surveys around people's attitudes towards January six, the attitudes have still fall on party lines, but the intensity of those feelings has diminished as time goes on. It was a terrible terrible summer. There were riots in major cities across the country. There was a lot of destruction, and so a lot of people put that part and parcel in it. And for a lot of people, when we're talking about the fifteen hundred who've been charged in some relation to January sixth, a lot of them we're talking about commuting sentences, so they still will carry that guilty conviction. Many of them have done time, and so for a lot of people, they'll just say, look, it's time to move on. I think if there's one headline out of it that's going to hurt, it'll be the Proud Boys getting out, because people are still spooked by that element. But America does have a big history of this. Three hundred and twenty million people in this country. There are militias across the country. There are stockpiles and guns, and they fight for their Second Amendment.

Right, let me tell you.

So it's complicated, but I think in the flurry of news it will people will move on.

Now, forgive me, I'm going to make you blush, but I want to say something. Sky News has got an incredible presence in the United States. Yes, we've got a lot of YouTube support over there a lot of people who love the reporting left, he's losing it. Lots of great stuff that we do, but years ago we didn't have an American correspondent. It was Analysi's idea to create it. And one of the reasons why it is so easy to be a person like me when you go to the United States is because of what we have built.

And we've built that as a result of Analysa's hard work.

And yes, everyone surges in for the Grand Final, but we have our a game there all day, every day.

Congratulations mate, thank.

You, Paul.

And just while you're letting us say nice things, the reality is, I'm only here because my dad told me to and it's actually his birthday today.

He's the one four.

Years ago that So come on, let's go cover the Iowa Caucuses.

You can do this. You should be a US correspondent. I'll help you make the pitch. So really, it's my dad. I love you.

I love Mum to of course you don't upset Mom. We love you too, Mum. All right, thank you guys, we do appreciate Thank you. Analyse love your done soon. Analyst Nielsen, honestly, she doesn't phenomenal job in the US for us all day, every day, and yet it's been awesome to hang out with her. And she's just leaps and bounds, leaps and bounds, all right, quick break back with more, including more polling data showing a change of government. Very horribable here in Australia. Will it happen? Let's have a look at the data next.

Thanks for watching late debate less than ten minutes away. Let's make the most of our time together tomorrow and night. Of course, Meghan Kelly our special guest.

We love her. She of course played.

A role in the rally just before inauguration Day. She was in and around DC and spent time with the Donald just before he became president.

Again. Ple need to talk about with her, including pushing back.

Against many of the lefty media that is around, and I look forward to talking to her tomorrow. New pole came out today regarding the election regarding the future of Anthony Abernezi. This one from the Turnbull Times otherwise known as The Guardian, and I got to say I generally like this pole because they ask interesting questions pretty consistently, right. I also like that they publish all of the data which means I can show you this now. Obviously, no primary vote is normally put out by everyone. In this case, it shows that the Labor parties vote is lower than it was the twenty twenty two election by about two point six percent. Also, the Liberal National Party's vote is up nowhere, not quite at the forty that other polls that I've shown you this week, and that's because they keep in things like other and don't know into their poll. Green's basically the same one nation basically the same and other. Now remember other can be everything from libertarian through to teal. So that other factor in some poles is at ten percent in their one is at seven percent, but just five percent of people sit in that don't know category. Now, remember if they split fifty to fifty and five percent, what's hard to do that. But basically let's imagine, well, you still end up in a scenario where the Liberal Party gets closer to forty Remember forty percent when it comes to its primary vote is where an average normal election would most likely result in a coalition win. The asterisk, as always is that seven percent. Where we're talking about tels, independence and a whole collection.

Of other things.

But also interesting in the polling that they put out is this graph here, and this is about.

The national mood.

Now, I mean, I'm happy to stand by their stat because we.

Quote it all the time.

But you may well have noticed that it was above fifty percent for month after month after month after month after month. That's the blue one at the top, and then the wrong track number has dropped ever so slightly. The right track number has spiked, which would suggest to me that we need a few more of these. But it is a trend that the Prime Minister would obviously be rather excited about. But then there's the information that kind of contradicts the information that they have presented inside their poll, including the current state of the Australian economy. Well, very signific number of people will say there that it is poor. How do you feel the economy will go in the next six months? Fifty two percent of labor supporters think that it's going to stay the same, which of course.

Is bad, or fifty.

One percent of Coalition people say the same. In fact, bigger number says worse. But interestingly that independent and other number put that together, we don't know. It starts to paint the picture if people think that things are going to stay the same, which has been bad or is going to get worse. None of that is good for the Prime Minister. Plenty more here to have a look at about an in and around this pole, and there's more polling data. As we get it, we'll talk about it and all the rest of it. Interestingly as well, we talk about election spending. Now, I must have overcarried one or two last night, because I presented a number to you that I think it was fifty billion dollars in spending. Thankfully, it is not fifty billion dollars in spending. That's already come up with Albo right now, it's about twelve point two billion dollars. But still we are not even at the end of the first month of the year, and the Prime Minister thinking that he can buy his way to your heart. He thinks that he's able to do it with promise to day billions of dollars and currently twelve point two billion dollars. Me think he's probably not done with spending, as we like to say, other people's money. Also worth noting too that politicians have got tens of millions of dollars which they are able to just dole out without really having to ask anyone. In fact, interesting reporting which was again served up today in the Financial Review. It says that all political parties, in fact all sitting MPs, have got a special fund of which they can personally say, donate to raffle tickets of a couple of hundred dollars, or they can fund promises up to many thousands of dollars. In fact, it's about twenty two million dollars of other people's money, which of course only means the people that are already there have a financial advantage to being able to campaign to stay there See tomorrow.

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