In this episode, the famous AstroTwins offer our fiery Aries a reading we probably shouldn’t be privy to, but this is a ‘chart’ topping talk, and we are totally going to listen!
Plus, they explain why Oliver is the way he is. (Hint: it’s because he’s a Virgo)!
Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are sibling.
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You don't do that with your mouth revelry. That's good.
All right, we're back with the asterixpens. Let's just get into it.
There's it's so fun. It's so fun.
I think we need to get more into me because it's just all for some reason, all about like you're weird.
I got I got insecure about it too.
I'm like, what is that, Kate? Like that's part of my that's part of my problem, I think where I can't just be selfish.
Because I know WoT like you. I'm like, well, they're talking about me too much? Like what about Kate.
I know Kate's probably thinking they're talking about all of her too much. I'm like, I know she's thinking that, so I'm going.
To say no, I was loving it. I even wrote down the dates and you didn't. That's how much I care.
About you is a little crazy right now, I do it.
I would love to know, like is there anything like about past lives or like future type stuff that comes up in the chart like.
Oh yeah, definitely. And we did what's called a composite chart, which is a blended chart of both of your charts to see like what you are as a duo too, tell you that, yeah, let me grab it. But together, yeah, together, you guys are a cancer with an Aquarius moon and a Gemini rising, so you're very much about family. But the moon the interview is like taking the subjective, kind of distant look at how thing you know, like Aquarius moon would would not be close in their childhood, but like as you started to form as people, your bond did too. And the Gemini rising is like talking about things. So hello, having a podcast together. That's perfect.
Yeah, oh that's so cute. There were cancer together.
Yeah, there's a there's a protective thing you have for each other, heartfelt energy between you, but also objective with the Aquarius mood. But yeah, you asked about what are their north and south notes to get Yeah, your north and south note are aries south node and Libra north notes. So it started out as a relationship of you know, it did start probably a sibling rivalry and fighting and even like bullying each other a little bit. Or just like, you know, till you found that Libra north node middle ground peace, so but like really wanting to end viduate. But then when you did come together and we're able to each bring your strengths, it was probably pretty epic. So that's cool.
Yeah wow, did kids come up on there, like our children or does that?
Sure?
Yeah?
What's like who's the bear.
The stricter one that Capricorn moon? Yeah, like and the Virgo north note probably surprisingly involved, and what your kids eat and they're structured bedtimes. I'm not right, my poor kids, and you're like, let's just have burgers every night with that Taurus south wond you're about the fun and indulge in. Yeah, pushover with your Pisces moon and like hardcore with the Capricorn.
That's so interesting.
Yeah wow, it's m M yeah you know yes, I mean you can look at everything in a chart, you can look so much.
You worry though more Oliver, you worry, but then you're like, you know, what's of dessert for dinner?
Anything? I worry exactly?
I do?
And I yeah.
Then you're like fuck it, yeah totally.
Yeah.
I feel like your aries rising hasn't been fully discussed Oliver, because it is does make you like, you know, maybe you can yell at them sometimes get a little frustrated with them or that's where that that's where that patient stration, that impatience comes in. So yeah, yeah, a little time to yourself. Yeah, also wanting to be a good dad, like you know, just whatever you're doing, you're going to like compare it to what you're not doing and make sure it is not enough. So stop doing that. I know now, I if it was that easy. I also see Kate that you're a twenty two four numerology, which is like a heavy master number to the master builder. So you really like to build relationships and then together create something that lasts. And Oliver your three life path, which is like a lot of different interests like okay, yeah, okay, well you do tend to be a little bit tortured souls in terms of their.
But like you activate, you are exalted, You're a master builder.
But strangely, yeah, Oliver.
You really you really love to hold onto that, don't you.
I mean, like, Hay is my idol God?
Yeah yeah, but I'm just saying it's that tortured thing is strangely romantic to me.
That's why you should be writing exactly bore quiet right, a character that's I literally think a show with a character that's.
Like you, because look you are even though you have that aries rising and turists south the note, which is very red blooded. Guy, you're very in touch with like the kind of touch with your alpha and your beta.
Me.
But I feel like a character based on the torturous themes that go through your head be very interesting and instructive. Yes, yeah, for real.
Yeah, it's weird. The underbelly. The underbelly is so it fascinating interesting to me because we all have it.
Yet we put on this facade of like everything's good, but everyone has their their dark shit, and I'm interested in that.
Orbist about it. You're transparent about it, which a lot of men aren't. So I think you need to turn that into sort of a strength and make some money off of it. Yeah, okay, script, and of course Kate will executive produce it.
Yeah.
What about relationships?
I must my my chart must be very interesting when it comes to relationships.
Your moon is in the relationship house. What what signs are your partners? Are your spouses?
Aaron is February twenty six, So she's a piscey okay.
And Danny is a Gemini.
Oh yeah. Venus and Mars are the planets to look at for love. So Kate, you have your yours are in really interesting placements, so Venus in they're actually and really like they're in happy places. You have Venus and Pisces, which is it's like most romantic, free flowing place for Venus to be. It's the exalted position using that word. That really is what astrologers call it. And then Mars and Aries. So that's where things get a little bit tough because Venus and Pisces is like, oh my god, take me away. Let's just sweep me off into La la land. And then Mars and Aries comes in. It's like I'm in charge, bitch.
You know, you've just like summed up my relationship issues and like one one sentence.
Yeah, Gus, Yeah.
That's so true.
Gemini men do not mind being as long as you don't like interfere with whatever it is, like, whether it's like eating cereal while playing video games one Saturday a month until three pm, they'll like you boss them around.
Yeah, I feel like I feel like for an Aries Mars, which is what I am as well as the sun in Mars which and mercury.
Yep, because I feel like.
I feel like for me.
It's also now that I've gotten older, it's like I I will always say what is on my mind, you know what I mean. It doesn't mean that it's personal. It doesn't mean that I don't love you, it doesn't. But I am gonna tell you the truth, Like I'm gonna tell you exactly what is on my mind.
Yeah, but you have enough water in there to kind of balance it out. I think that Venus and Pisces softens it and you don't mind. It's not like you have to be in charge all the time, but you do need someone who can like meet that Mars and Aries and be like a man with a plan, Like there's no like pussy footing around.
Yes, that's yes, this is right on it.
Yeah, you will be direct, but then you'll like follow it up with lots of love and soothing. But you are going to make sure you say the thing that you mean. You might cushion it, but it's getting said.
I'm really good at I'm getting better. I'm like really good at cushioning. Yeah you are.
And then Oliver you are you are you know, it's like you have the north note and Uranus so Uranus is the rebel. You're just a rebel and whatever other people are doing you are almost like this. You've adopted a contrarian role. I think in really Mars and Venus and Libra Thos. Yeah, so you so apart. So you do want to harmonize, but you don't want to lose yourself in the harmony of it all. So it's I mean, the theme all over your chart is like you want to be connected.
You do like the high harmony, Yeah.
I love it usually, but make sure that you stand out and don't blend in. So it's it's Relationships for you are more of like a learning ground than anything, but a safe haven when you do feel like you're with someone who really understands you. And your wife's a Pisces, that's your moon signs you're gonna feel emotionally safe with her, Like then you kind of chill out with all that other stuff and you're just like, all right, let's just enjoy the good times. Wait to both of you sing? Do you sing? Kate?
Kate doesn't give me as much credit for my voice as you should. Because it is.
What do you mean You've got an amazing false incredible.
Stop with your vibe.
Okay, you're yachting like crazy.
I literally.
You play that you did when you were like playing a rock star on like the w B or something, and I was like, I.
Was so I was so glowingly loving about your voice.
Oh yeah, it's it's all there, you guys.
This this Libra North node that you have, Like there's maybe there's a harmonizing track that needs maybe you need to start singing together. Maybe maybe it's an album and stuff.
He really does have a good falsetto. It's an impressive false Yeah.
Freddy Mercury, he was an aries I mean a virgo. Yeah yeah he was. Yeah, yeah he was good.
God, that's what you need.
That's the Scorpio North node needs more, Freddie Mercury.
Yes, like, oh my god.
The winds might show up.
Were all these guys start showing up like leather pants and like a white king of going to be like queen.
Yes, oh wow.
So for me, like what about like near future other than this next like year where you were saying goes into the twelfth house and yeah, right now.
Right now, Saturn neptune right on top of your mercury. So get your just get out there, get on social media more. I hate to say it, you know, like be out publicizing, talking like out in the world, out in the world and with your art and yeah, talking about the album or talking about the show, but just like doing more fun kind of just enjoy it. Speaking of whimsical but like little whimsical you know, bits of you performing or things like that. The nodal opposition that you're in right now, yeah, is also like you know, really you might be working on some health stuff right now, like just balance scans, the brain scans, but yeah, like just making sure like your everyday health is in alignment with like the flow the hydration, as well as like some new habits, maybe even like moderate like moderating your workouts in some ways so that they're if they're like weight, like bringing a little more spirituality and in with them.
As well as I love this.
Yeah, but making sure they're like happening in a way that feels pleasurable not exhausting.
Yeah, it's really important.
And that nodal opposition like also examining some of the rules you've put on yourself and like seeing where some need to be a little softer and some there's a little more discipline. Like there's really this balancing.
Of like.
Loving all of this stuff good. It's almost like you're telling you're saying, you're actually saying the things that are are for both Oliver and I said, but like happening in real time right.
Now, you know, well, yeah, totally.
Like I was just talking about that with a girlfriend, about about the difference between like pushing yourself to know how hard you can push yourself, versus when you feel good in your body, like what actually makes you feel good in your body and strong?
But like yeah, but like being in the body being embodied as opposed to like Piscey south note, Like do I really want to be doing this?
Am I? You know right now this free spirited, floating energy and now you're like, yeah, when you're in the Nodle opposition, you really sometimes completely break from the way you've thought of yourself and like find a new expression of your identity, Like you unplug from all these roles. So I mean you're doing that with your show and your music in all these new ways.
So yeah, cool.
I was just writing I do this and we're like right, I just like stream of consciousness right every morning.
And oh cool.
A couple of weeks ago, that was my whole thing, was like this idea that people are so stuck on what it is to when someone changes their mind about something like that, there's no room for people to actually change direction. That one day you actually thought that this was the way you wanted to live your life, and then you woke up the next morning and you're like, well, wait a minute, no, I don't feel that way anymore, and that we don't so many people don't allow space for people to actually change their mind, like to re establish who they are, and then like the whole concept of like if we're not changing, then we're you know, we have a therapist that we love who always says, like, if you're not changing, then you're dead, Like then you're right no longer in that vessel, like you're you know.
It's like, so we're constantly changing.
Both of you are like kind of the leaders of that. With the Ares rising and the Aris sun, like Oliver, you'll be feeling these Aris transits too. It's like anyone who has an aries rising her sun right now is kind of charged with the task of bringing we're moving out of this Pisces energy the last sign like the twelfth house, to the Arias energy the first sign. So passivity or just waiting for things to happen is fine, but I think there's like I mean, all over the place we can see it. You know, the world needs new conversations and leads, new ideas, and people do need to We're going to have to change anyways, So getting through that discomfort with change is like part of I think the Saturn and Neptune and Ares transit that's happening for the world. But you guys, having such strong Aris in your chart and what you're doing here is like helping people to open themselves up to like stepping past the fear of doing something new. So I love that you're journaling about that. That's so right on time.
Yeah, like the download's getting and sometimes you have to get lost in order to find what that next octave.
Or vibration of you. Sometimes there are times in our liveshere we get established and other times where we have to get lost and experiment.
Yeah, I like that. What about my what about my career moving forward?
Like bigger, longer longevity stuff, like it's going to stay creative because.
I don't know anything else. But yeah, no, I'm always in limbo.
It feels like between sort of doing what makes me money and then sort of really discovering.
Well you've had You've had Pluto, which is this like intense shadow worker in your career house for basically over ten years, and it's at the end of that cycle, so I think you're like really starting to crystallize a lot of those lessons. At the very top of your chart is a point called the mid Heaven. It's the beginning of the tenth house, and you have a Capricorn mid heaven, and that's great for like you're sort of supposed to be the dad of the at work, Like, well, I was gonna say what was coming to me with Pluto finishing that long journey for you as like what part of your dad have you not let go of or forgiven? Because whatever that is, you're gonna want to not You're going like, sometimes you define yourself in opposition to a person who's hurt you or let you down, But you'll be limiting yourself if you can never let yourself kind of play in that area because he was like that and I don't want to be like him. So Pluto is where we project unto others. So if there's any of that still lingering around after Hoffman, I would explore that before Pluto leaves. And I don't know if that resonates at all. Yeah, yeah, okay. Your money also will come from investments, probably with your Scorpio North node. Yeah, that tech investment is definitely coming through. I mean that might be bigger than you actually realize. And I feel like maybe that's does that tie into the dad thing like letting yourself really be successful with money or I don't know.
I mean, look, I there's money, and then there's there's art, commerce and art.
Right Like I.
Money, I'm always living sort of on my heels, you know, and I feel like if there's an influx of cash, it's like, oh, it's.
Just relief for me, that's all. There's just relief.
I know, money can't buy you happiness, but I'm pretty happy. So I fucking back up the Brinks truck, you know.
Yeah, tourists South now needs resources and a certain baseline level of security in order to go into those other realms.
I know it sounds crazy too, but let's just say that Brinks truck is back up. I feel like it would free myself up to just be more creative or to just do things like without fear.
Essentially I'm crazy.
I'm good, I've got I'm good. I'm secure now, families secure, everything's fucking good.
All.
Let me just be weird and like expible.
That's the Taurus energy. And when I said entitled before, it's really kind of this. It's that is like one expression of a tourist south, but another expression is like I need resources. I need to make sure I'm Taurists as a provider, you have lifetimes where you are like a hard working provider also, so in order to go into those mysterious Scorpio realms and explore new things, you want to make sure you have a certain baseline. But that's the challenge. You know, There's that saying seeing is believing or believing is seeing, So you need to work on the believing before, like because that like when I had I had a mentor who once said to someone like that, they were like saying to a fireplace, like, well give me some fire and then I'll give you wood. And that that always stuck with me because look at maybe where in your life you're walking around like that, refusing to actually give wood to the fire and then being pissed off that it isn't lit.
Good analogy. I love that.
What about someone like me who walks around too much fire?
I know we need to.
Oh my god, I chopped so much wood?
Oh I know you just yeah, you need to let someone else's hand the acts to someone else missing libra point. Yeah, Well, actually you have in that system that we made, we call it the I M system, there's three archetypes. We look at basically how many fire, earth, air, and water signs you have and how many we are called cardinal We call them the innovators, fixed we call them the authorities, and Maven's the mutable signs. So you have seven innovator signs and only one authority, which is the disciplined kind of the that's Taurus Leo Scorpion Aquarius. So and then you only have one air sign out of out of all the use thirteen parts of your charts, so you're you're heaviest on water. So you have one air sign and one authority. So I think like when someone is low on air, they're actually not always proactively spreading their ideas around like you have a lot. There's probably a lot more to you that people just don't know about, which is you wouldn't think because you are so well known. But there's this part of you and that's like the stories, the books, the right eating, all the journaling that you do. Like that part of you is not as known but could be really inspirational to people in some ways. So does that make sense?
Literally, in the fires, like I don't know if you can see behind me, but I.
This is nothing. There's like a whole thing as all my journals.
Wow, well they're all my journals.
Oh wow.
I literally the fires were happening and we were evacuating and we had to come back in.
I was like, I was like, you know, it doesn't matter.
I got the things that I needed, you know, whatever we could fit in the car.
And then I just had this moment. I was like, all my journals.
I forgot all my journals and Danny and my partner, was like nope, and he went back and he came back to the house in the middle of this like insanity, and brought all my journals and I'd never seen them all in one place. We look back at all of our journals. It's like the same. It's the same thing.
Ever, Oh my god, my Kneear's resolutions for the last twenty five years a verbatim, the same.
I'm like, nothing's changed. There's a problem here.
How many pages of like.
The thing?
Believe in yourself? Oliver, You've got the tent.
About what other people are doing, like let them have their moment, like, don't be jealous.
I mean it's literally the same shit.
Oh god, you know, I'm so glad you use the word jealousy, because jealousy is actually the superpower of your scorpio North note what if you leaned in? I mean Julia Cameron from the artiest way he talks about the envy map where you really used jealousy as a compass. But what if you really worked with that jealousy part and had some fought some whimsy with it, Like the whimsical side is really actually that shadowy, bitter asshole with What if you like made a character out of it, who would wear leather of course, and go around.
Like who is this jealous alter ego?
What card is jealousy? What's a good terror card for the devil?
Like the devil?
Yeah, yeah, I like an addiction and addictions or something to I always said to Oliver, he needs more fox animal.
Yeah yeah, I don't need like addictions to substances. We're not going to touch that, but like emotional addiction.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I'm like a lower case A.
But that's because you're not letting maybe the jealous part of you just fully just play and like take the stage. That's going to be a nice You're so right.
I mean, I don't like to ruffle feathers. I don't want to make people feel bad. I don't want to do this. I don't do that. Like that's what I I when Kate you.
Do when it comes out as sarcasm and snap, it does so I can hurt people.
Yeah, because I'm funny and I can get away with a ton because of the way I sort of present myself and my humor.
But you know, that's what I said about Kate forever.
You know.
One of the things that.
I wish I could sort of take from her, you know that emulate because we have this thing is her sort of fire where she just says what she feels.
Just really give a fuck what people think.
Thinking about your chart, Oliver is like sarcasm isn't an addiction for you in a way, because it's it's like sometimes there's a funny part of you that wants to like make people laugh too, and like you're very sharp and witty. But then sometimes you also use it as a weapon. So just start to be aware of when you're weaponizing it versus because the tous south note is actually very judgmental, and you have lifetimes being very black and white about things, and you're learning shades of gray and nuance in this lifetime.
In fact, fifty of no, that's true. I do. I mean I work on it.
I work on it because I'm like, all right, just relaxing, everything's okay.
Yeah, yeah, because you can elevate a room and bring people together, but it can also be like a little a little like you know, maybe you don't have to do that anymore all that way, right, Yeah, hates card is like the Empress or something, Yeah, like the Nine of Pentacles.
Like, oh, I like the Woman in the Garden, Like just like one of my favorite cards. I really like her, yeah, because she works so hard but she still enjoys her garden.
Yeah, exactly. I feel like your journals maybe the makings of a book, and it could be like a photo scrap book, graphic novel, kind of like not a traditional book.
But that's like what McConaughey did with like green Lights, Mine's going to be like way too many lights, way too.
Much light, yellow yello.
Yellow light is yeah, so many little spectrum yes, yeah, but.
No.
You know what was really interesting is when I started I started looking into my journals and my my twenties, like my the Firs, Like from twenty to about twenty six, there was some really good like song. I was like, I was like, oh, man, like, what a bummer that I I'll do it, I know, but it would have been fun to know what that would have been like then, you know, but you know, it's it's interesting to look back on it, but.
It's cool to see that that's kind of where my head was at.
And and then I didn't believe in that girl enough to do that to express myself.
That's the theme of the song is that you didn't believe in that girl, but now you're you.
You know, you write it and I'll sing it.
I love it.
You know, there's a moon right there. I'm seeing the I'm seeing.
The believe that you sing about yourself in the past and you bring it up into the present.
Boom, you go from third person to second person to first person. Bang. This is going to be the only.
Episode of Sibling Revelry that I will listen to because I want to hear take it.
All back in again. You know, I don't know shows, but this is one I'm for sure going to listen. Cool, it's so great.
I also love it's also some it's just fun to be like, okay, what are my actions? Like, you know, like when things get when it's just inspiring, it's like, okay, so.
You know you be inspired to maybe.
Look at something, not in a different way, but in like a more focused way.
You know, Capricorn Moon wants a plan.
Yeah.
Well, what's interesting about this as opposed to sort of a psychic reading is when you go through the chart and then you, as someone who's being read, are realizing that you are hitting upon things that are so spot on, you become a believer. And it's not about being psychic. It's about oh, well god, they're so spot on that now these are the things that I can sort of work on. I've believed because it's like, holy shit, that's so correct and now you can sort of try to help yourself.
It's really about embracing every that's what we love to do. It's like if we've done a reading rite when someone comes out like feeling more self accepting, validated. Yeah, like it's okay to have all these different parts of me, Like it's spot on. But it's not bad that I'm like that. It's just how I'm wired. According to my cosmic blueprint. Human beings come with instructions in our you know, rough guide instructions, so why not use it? Like why we already suffer enough? So this is kind of like I like what I like the way you said it, and that was exactly you experienced it. Now you understand. Yes, yeah, now who wants to be a millionaire?
So fun you Yes, we are going to go write a book.
And sid a song that honest investment that's paying off. Yeah, I like that awesome and you know hit.
Us off mine.
Yeah for channel we gotta yeah, and be.
Your personal astrologerss.
What do I do about this?
Let me pull a card.
Yeah, and here's what's great too, and then we'll go.
But what I love is like throughout sort of your readings and your wisdom, like you're actually giving advice too, or you know, just ideas on how to do things. We were like, you do this, or lean into this, or maybe do this, or I have an idea here for you, which is different. You're giving your opinions on how you might better yourself.
We have Capricorn rising and Scorpio moon sagittarius, so we're we can't help it. We are like, here's an idea. Great.
I love that it's proactive, rather than saying here it is good luck.
It's like, but I've got some ideas.
You know you appreciate that. I'm glad that's what you.
Did, which is so fun.
So so much fun, so much thank you, bye bye.
Bye, Ollie.
You know I had you know, I don't know if you still have that book that I did for you from Jill spirit daughter.
So it's very like it's so interesting because.
You know, this is now the third astrologer that I know of who's read you, who've I've also spoken to, who says the same thing.
Your life purpose.
Is so interesting because it's weighted, it's very weighted.
It's it's heavy, and your mask is that aries.
You know, the aries right that you are like have this set of fire in there, which is great because it keeps you afloat, It keeps you, it keeps you.
Like out in the world and tap dancing.
But your.
Like your yacht like that is crazy. That's crazy, is it?
I still don't know where my yacht is. It's it's at the it's at the moon.
And your yacht is a bunch of basically, it's a bunch of different things in your chart that are pointing towards your moon, which is in Pisces. It means that, it means that there's a lot of intense work that needs to be done. That's that's that's where it's like the person who needs to like when they said, like you need to work on your ego, you need to work on the.
In order for said a lot of yacht. That's all. That's all I heard. I was like, they're both they both have.
Very well, they're very well. They were very intensive, like beautiful spiritual people. So the thing is too, it's like it can work for you in terms of how you manifest and it can it can be and it's your great teacher because it's so heavy. A yacht is I guess like a very Heavy Life Experience.
Wow, the whole thing was great, but I loved it.
I loved it. It's like, it's so much fun.