About the Hosts:

Janet Evans is an ex-M&C Saatchi advertising creative with a successful history in the industry, having won numerous radio and TV awards. Her expertise and creativity have been recognized in media beyond advertising.

Dr. Amelia Haines is an experienced medical doctor with 30 years of experience, specializing in sexual health, mental health, and relationship counseling. She brings her extensive medical knowledge to a wider audience through her public speaking and written work. 

Episode Summary:

In this final episode in Season 1 of “She Wasn’t Born Yesterday,” Janet Evans and Dr. Amelia Haines explore the universally challenging transition known as the 'Empty Nest Syndrome'. This podcast promises to be a sanctuary for women over 40 who are navigating the complexities of life after their children have flown the coop. With a blend of humor, medical insights, and real-life experiences, the hosts delve into the emotional turbulence that often accompanies this significant life stage. 

Janet and Amelia offer personal anecdotes and professional advice, discussing how sudden changes, such as children leaving home, can impact parents. They touch on the varying degrees of adjustment disorders, the importance of maintaining a strong relationship with one’s partner throughout parenting, and the need for personal fulfillment beyond child-rearing. With their book “Empty Next” as a backdrop, they provide honest reflections on coping with change, managing relationships post-parenting, and redefining oneself in the face of an empty home. 

Key Takeaways:
Empty nest syndrome, while not an official medical syndrome, is widely recognized as an adjustment disorder with a varying impact on parents when children leave home. 
The syndrome can last for a relatively short duration but has the potential to lead to depression if not addressed. 
Maintaining and nurturing the spousal relationship during child-rearing years is critical for the transition to post-parenting life. 
Engaging in personal interests and community connection is vital for newly emptied nesters to find fulfillment and establish a new sense of identity. 
Cultural perspectives on empty nest syndrome provide a diverse understanding of this global phenomenon. 

Notable Quotes:
Dr. Amelia Haines on the inevitability of children leaving home: “I think I’ve always just been aware that that’s what life does.” 
Janet Evans on the unanticipated nature of her son leaving: “I just sailed along, not really… It never crossed my mind.” 
Janet Evans on maintaining a connection with grown-up children: “I think one thing that I missed the most was the shift from being his somewhat of a confidant.” 
Dr. Amelia Haines on in-law relationships: “It’s hard to get on with, […] You need to be super generous.” 

Resources:
The hosts discuss their collaborative book titled “Empty Next,” available for purchase on Amazon. 

For more episodes and insightful conversations, follow our podcast and join us on our journey to explore life’s adventures and complexities for women 40+ fabulous!

About the Hosts: 
Janet Evans is an ex-M&amp;C Saatchi advertising creative with a successful history in the industry, having won numerous radio and TV awards. Her expertise and creativity have been recognized in media beyond advertising.
Dr. Amelia Haines is an experienced medical doctor with 30 years of experience, specializing in sexual health, mental health, and relationship counseling. She brings her extensive medical knowledge to a wider audience through her public speaking and written work. 
Episode Summary:  
In this final episode in Season 1 of “She Wasn’t Born Yesterday,” Janet Evans and Dr. Amelia Haines explore the universally challenging transition known as the 'Empty Nest Syndrome'. This podcast promises to be a sanctuary for women over 40 who are navigating the complexities of life after their children have flown the coop. With a blend of humor, medical insights, and real-life experiences, the hosts delve into the emotional turbulence that often accompanies this significant life stage. 
Janet and Amelia offer personal anecdotes and professional advice, discussing how sudden changes, such as children leaving home, can impact parents. They touch on the varying degrees of adjustment disorders, the importance of maintaining a strong relationship with one’s partner throughout parenting, and the need for personal fulfillment beyond child-rearing. With their book “<a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Empty-Next-Janet-Evans/dp/B0BQ9L2PDQ">Empty Next</a>” as a backdrop, they provide honest reflections on coping with change, managing relationships post-parenting, and redefining oneself in the face of an empty home. 
Key Takeaways: 
<ul>
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<li data-leveltext="•" data-font="" data-listid="1006" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335551671&quot;:0,&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:480,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;•&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="0" data-aria-level="1">The syndrome can last for a relatively short duration but has the potential to lead to depression if not addressed. </li>
<li data-leveltext="•" data-font="" data-listid="1006" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335551671&quot;:0,&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:480,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;•&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="0" data-aria-level="1">Maintaining and nurturing the spousal relationship during child-rearing years is critical for the transition to post-parenting life. </li>
<li data-leveltext="•" data-font="" data-listid="1006" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335551671&quot;:0,&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:480,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;•&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="0" data-aria-level="1">Engaging in personal interests and community connection is vital for newly emptied nesters to find fulfillment and establish a new sense of identity. </li>
<li data-leveltext="•" data-font="" data-listid="1006" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335551671&quot;:0,&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:480,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;•&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="0" data-aria-level="1">Cultural perspectives on empty nest syndrome provide a diverse understanding of this global phenomenon. </li>
</ul>
Notable Quotes: 
<ul>
<li data-leveltext="•" data-font="" data-listid="1007" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335551671&quot;:0,&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:480,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;•&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="0" data-aria-level="1">Dr. Amelia Haines on the inevitability of children leaving home: “I think I’ve always just been aware that that’s what life does.” </li>
<li data-leveltext="•" data-font="" data-listid="1007" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335551671&quot;:0,&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:480,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;•&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="0" data-aria-level="1">Janet Evans on the unanticipated nature of her son leaving: “I just sailed along, not really… It never crossed my mind.” </li>
<li data-leveltext="•" data-font="" data-listid="1007" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335551671&quot;:0,&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:480,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;•&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="0" data-aria-level="1">Janet Evans on maintaining a connection with grown-up children: “I think one thing that I missed the most was the shift from being his somewhat of a confidant.” </li>
<li data-leveltext="•" data-font="" data-listid="1007" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335551671&quot;:0,&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:480,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;•&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="0" data-aria-level="1">Dr. Amelia Haines on in-law relationships: “It’s hard to get on with, […] You need to be super generous.” </li>
</ul>
Resources: 
<ul>
<li data-leveltext="•" data-font="" data-listid="1008" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335551671&quot;:0,&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:480,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;•&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;multilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="0" data-aria-level="1">The hosts discuss their collaborative book titled “<a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Empty-Next-Janet-Evans/dp/B0BQ9L2PDQ">Empty Next</a>,” available for purchase on Amazon. </li>
</ul>
For more episodes and insightful conversations, follow our podcast and join us on our journey to explore life’s adventures and complexities for women 40+ fabulous!

She Wasn’t Born Yesterday tackles the many unique issues affecting women who are 40+ fabulous.

“Nothing’s off limits and we dive headfirst into topics from homelessness to women using porn, true crime obsession and life after divorce and DV,” says Janet. “We think women (and hopefully guys too) will resonate. 

She Wasn’t Born Yesterday is available on the Hope 103.2 app and major podcast platforms.

Listen to more from our Hope Podcasts collection at hopepodcasts.com.au. And send the team a message via Hope 103.2’s app, Facebook or Instagram.

She Wasn’t Born Yesterday tackles the many unique issues affecting women who are 40+ fabulous.
“Nothing’s off limits and we dive headfirst into topics from homelessness to women using porn, true crime obsession and life after divorce and DV,” says Janet. “We think women (and hopefully guys too) will resonate. 
She Wasn’t Born Yesterday is available on the <a href="https://hope1032.com.au/listen/#apps">Hope 103.2 app</a> and major podcast platforms.
Listen to more from our Hope Podcasts collection at <a href="http://www.hopepodcasts.com.au/">hopepodcasts.com.au</a>. And send the team a message via <a href="https://hope1032.com.au/listen/#apps">Hope 103.2’s app</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/Hope103.2">Facebook</a> or <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sydneyshope1032/">Instagram</a>.

She Wasn’t Born Yesterday tackles the many unique issues affecting women who are 40+ fabulous. No topic is too controversial!

She Wasn't Born Yesterday

How do you deal with the ‘pause’? How do you know you’re dating someone with a narcissistic personality disorder? How do you move on from divorce? Behind the scenes of a 40+ influencer and how to reverse the aging process, are just a few topics tackled.

SWBY features Janet Evans, an ex M&C Saatchi advertising creative and Dr Amelia Haines, a sexual and relationship therapist, who have written Australia’s first book on empty nest syndrome called Empty Next. A chance interview on radio station Hope 103.2 about the book inspired the podcast.

“So many unique issues affect women of our age, including empty nest syndrome, and nothing’s off limits in SWBY! We really dive headfirst into them, but hopefully with lightness and relevant wit where possible,” Janet commented. “We were incredibly lucky to chat to some very high profile guests, including CEOs of important organisations, who shared their expertise with us and our audience.”



Listen to more from our Hope Podcasts collection at hopepodcasts.com.au. And send the team a message via Hope 103.2’s app, Facebook or Instagram.

How do you deal with the ‘pause’? How do you know you’re dating someone with a narcissistic personality disorder? How do you move on from divorce? Behind the scenes of a 40+ influencer and how to reverse the aging process, are just a few topics tackled.
SWBY features Janet Evans, an ex M&amp;C Saatchi advertising creative and Dr Amelia Haines, a sexual and relationship therapist, who have written Australia’s first book on empty nest syndrome called Empty Next. A chance interview on radio station Hope 103.2 about the book inspired the podcast.
“So many unique issues affect women of our age, including empty nest syndrome, and nothing’s off limits in SWBY! We really dive headfirst into them, but hopefully with lightness and relevant wit where possible,” Janet commented. “We were incredibly lucky to chat to some very high profile guests, including CEOs of important organisations, who shared their expertise with us and our audience.”
 
Listen to more from our Hope Podcasts collection at hopepodcasts.com.au. And send the team a message via Hope 103.2’s app, Facebook or Instagram.

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