The second hour tracks how emotional support animals grew from a legitimate mental‑health accommodation into a sprawling cultural and regulatory landmine spanning airports, housing law, generational behavior, and the booming ESA industry. The hosts note that while animals can steady us, they cannot carry the emotional burdens we keep shifting onto them — prompting a sharper question: Is the problem the animals, or our growing reluctance to shoulder our own weight?  The hour closes with Barry Hoffner — global traveler, former international investment banker, and founder of Caravan to Class, the nonprofit expanding educational access in West Africa. His book Belonging to the World chronicles his journey to every country on Earth and explores healing, connection, and renewed purpose after profound personal loss.

The second hour tracks how emotional support animals grew from a legitimate mental‑health accommodation into a sprawling cultural and regulatory landmine spanning airports, housing law, generational behavior, and the booming ESA industry. The hosts note that while animals can steady us, they cannot carry the emotional burdens we keep shifting onto them &mdash; prompting a sharper question: Is the problem the animals, or our growing reluctance to shoulder our own weight?&nbsp; The hour closes with&nbsp;<a href="https://belongingtotheworld.com/about#about.0" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="2">Barry Hoffner</a>&nbsp;&mdash; global traveler, former international investment banker, and founder of Caravan to Class, the nonprofit expanding educational access in West Africa. His book&nbsp;<a href="https://belongingtotheworld.com/about" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="3">Belonging to the World</a>&nbsp;chronicles his journey to every country on Earth and explores healing, connection, and renewed purpose after profound personal loss.

Tune in each week, as an established lawyer, and a self- proclaimed “man of the people,” debate some of the hottest issues impacting our city, state and nation. 

Tune in each week, as an established lawyer, and a self- proclaimed &ldquo;man of the people,&rdquo; debate some of the hottest issues impacting our city, state and nation.&nbsp;

Shake It Off with Mert & Lucas Live

Tune in each week, as an established lawyer, and a self- proclaimed “man of the people,” debate some of the hottest issues impacting our city, state and nation.