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Hour 2: Should ICE Cool It? Interview with Stuntman and Author, Eric Jacobus.

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The hosts open with a deep dive into ICE’s expanding enforcement under Trump’s second term, exploring how the agency’s mission has collided with questions of civil liberties, public safety, and national identity. The episode closes with Eric Jacobus—stuntman, martial artist, filmmaker, and motion capture performer—discussing his book, If These Fists Could Talk, a behind-the-scenes look at the philosophy and craft of screen fighting.

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