Episode 104 opens with a sharp look at how a small Nantucket church politicized a unifying civic tradition by canceling its annual July 4th reading of the Declaration of Independence to “reflect on our own whiteness” — a move that turned a quiet island ritual into a coast‑to‑coast argument over patriotism, race, and who gets to define America at 250 years. From there, the hosts pivot to a conversation with Craig Shirley — the New York Times bestselling presidential historian and definitive Ronald Reagan biographer, whose body of work spans Reagan’s campaigns and legacy as well as WWII histories including the bestsellers December 1941 and April 1945.

Episode 104 opens with a sharp look at how a small Nantucket church politicized a unifying civic tradition by canceling its annual July 4th reading of the Declaration of Independence to &ldquo;reflect on our own whiteness&rdquo; &mdash; a move that turned a quiet island ritual into a coast‑to‑coast argument over patriotism, race, and who gets to define America at 250 years. From there, the hosts pivot to a conversation with&nbsp;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Shirley" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Shirley&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1783377070666000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0Qp6M6TmY47cj3zduuWAy8">Craig Shirley</a>&nbsp;&mdash; the New York Times bestselling presidential historian and definitive Ronald Reagan biographer, whose body of work spans Reagan&rsquo;s campaigns and legacy as well as WWII histories including the bestsellers&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/December-1941-Changed-America-Saved/dp/1595554572" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.amazon.com/December-1941-Changed-America-Saved/dp/1595554572&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1783377070666000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2cIOd57Ydiqir6ZU2Zw5v9">December 1941</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/April-1945-History-Craig-Shirley/dp/1400217083/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.amazon.com/April-1945-History-Craig-Shirley/dp/1400217083/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1783377070666000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1DxyEXo_kufkm4JMI21Ony">April 1945</a>.

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