He went from the "Jersey Shore" to the hardwood floor on Season 31 of DWTS!
Vinny Guadagnino joins Cheryl to chat about his time on the competition show, including how he felt about the low judge's scores, partnering with first-time pro Koko Iwasaki, dealing with stage fright, and what he would do differently today.
Plus, his time on Chippendales, whether he's hooked up with fans, Jersey Shore updates, and Rapid Fire Q & A!
This is sex Lies and Spray Tans with Me, Cheryl Burke and iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to sex Liizes and Spray Tans. Get your fists ready to pump because today we've got a treat for you. This keto, Guido from the Jersey Shore, was on season thirty one of Dancing with the Stars, and when he's not eating his way around America with his mother, he can be heard on the airwaves with his podcast Something Went Wrong with Vinnie. It's a good one. Please welcome to the show, my friend, Vinnie Guadanino. Welcome to sex Lizes and Spray Tans. Vinnie, Hey, how are you?
I'm good? Long time they'll talk. This is a real catch up. We just started playing this second.
This isn't it sucks that we have to catch up only for doing a podcast.
Well no, I'm on the opposite, but I am down for it. You know whatever. You know, this won't be like our real conversations that we right right right right right.
Okay, So this is heavily. Have you heard sex Lize and Spray Tans before.
I've seen a lot of clips.
Okay, that's good, that's good. So how first of all tell me about like you as a little boy really quick.
Well, little Vinnie went to Catholic school, Oh, from kindergarten through eighth grade, got it. Little uniform, very shy, very quiet, not really popular. I had like one popular year in the seventh grade, and then I hit puberty and it all went downhill from there and then and then I came back around at like twenty twenty one years old. Okay, yeah, you know, family, mama's boy living in Staten Island, simple life.
Do you have siblings?
I have two sisters and I'm in the middle, got it.
Okay, So lots of women around you.
Lots of women, and I have a niece and a nephew now in love with them. It's great.
Does that make you want to have babies?
Well, that doesn't make me want to have babies. Crazy, but I want to have babies eventually for my own reasons.
Yeah, for sure, for sure. That's good. That's a good side. Who was your mentor growing up?
I don't know. I don't really, I didn't really have a mentor. I was really I was really close with my mother in terms of just like you know, just being a mama's boy, and and the love that she gave me. But I don't know, I kind of like I kind of had a like claw my way out of like the Staten Island way of life where I'm from. It's very cookie cutter and it's like, you know, before I wanted to do the TV show, I wanted to be a lawyer. And even me saying that was like almost like forbidden. It was like yetaut of here, like I'm gonna go to law school, Like it was like a land of make believe. But I always wanted to do something more. No offense to my city worker, fireman, sanitation worker friends, but I always want to do something more than that. So yeah, I kind of had to like make my own path. I'm the first. I think I was the first boy in my whole family out of older cousins and everything to graduate college. Well, I always tried to, like, you know, be something right.
And so was this just not from someone in your life? This was just because you wanted more for yourself and just general.
There was no one in my life that was doing you know, everyone in my life was was doing very humble jobs, working in you know, maybe like owning a pizzeria was like that, right, the highest level of something that.
I startup company. Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. So you go from Staten Island straight to Los Angeles? Or no, you didn't shoot Jersey Shore in Los Angeles, I'm assuming, or so Hollywood? I know, right, I skipped a bunch of years, but we don't have all day.
So been in the in the machine?
Is that a green screen you shot in front of this whole show? Because that wouldn't be shocked.
Actually, the reason Jersey Shore was such a hit was because it was based on a real place that we went to. And then the Hollywood people came to us, right the film must like they were landing on another planet, yes, and capturing this subculture of humans in the wild.
Okay, so before that happened, how did you audition or like, did you know these people meeting your castmates?
None of us knew each other. I had. I was actually going to the Jersey Shore from my first legal time because I had just turned twenty one, and because I was doing that and I was starting to you know that, what do you turn twenty one?
The whole hell breaks loose.
Well, when you're from around here, it's like a rite of passage going to the Jersey Shore. Everybody. I don't know where you're from originally, but everywhere area by area, I mean usually people have their little area vacation like hour away weekend spot, you know. So that was ours and I was actually doing that and at the time, you know, just timing is everything. There was an application kind of floating around for these like muscly tan, spiky hair guidos, that's what there we call the Italians. And I filled it out and I said, I said, look, this is my first twenty one year old, twenty one year year old summer. I'm from here. I party here, but I don't look like that. I'm like, my family is actually Italian for real, and I don't have big muscles and don't have spiky hair whatever. I didn't have a spray tan, And that's kind of what hired me. I was kind of like the diversity higher on the show. And there's like a gweedo spectrum. There's like one side of it which is like my boy PAULI d and then side of it, the pale, skinny.
One where does Mike fall in the in the middle, like way.
Up there now He's like he's like number two. I got it. It's so extreme totally.
And also Nicole like the same on that. Yeah you're the only You're the one and only.
Well, yeah, I'm a one of one for sure. But when when the show started getting famous and everybody was doing like the Dancing with the Stars and theody nobody knew who I was, I was really yeah, like I was left in Staten Island because you know, the network and everybody they didn't, you know, prop me up as their aricature was like the craziest.
Looking he looked way too normal for that.
Yeah. I looked like just like a camera assistant.
Right, but look at you Now.
I came into my own Yeah.
Absolutely. Okay, you go from Jerseys to a bunch of other reality shows. I do know that much. But we're just gonna skip to the good part. We're gonna go to Chippendale's for a quick hot minute. Here a quickie.
Some people have gone to Chippendales for a quickie.
Yeah, that's a part of my rapid fire to you later. So hold that thought.
This isn't really fire already.
Jeez, No, you are funny, okay, Keto the Keto Guido tell me more. Are you still on the Keto?
Diet.
Why are you so passionate about it?
Well, when I was in like so, Jersey Shore got off the air for a couple of years and it was completely finished. It came back now we're still on it as Jersey Shore Family vacation. During those off years, you know, I was not losing the weight like I used to. I had just been eating a lot of the food and kind of like just the the let me get in shape for the summertime worked out way of life wasn't working for me anymore. So I had to find something that was like an all year round way of life type of thing. And I used to hear about Keto. This is way back before Keto is even popularised, to hear about it on a lot of podcasts, and I'm like, oh, I could get behind like steak and butter and eggs and stuff. And I did, and it made me like shred the weight I lost like fifty pounds, and you know, it kind of became my shtick as Jersey Shore was coming back. That's why, you know, everything just aligned and I was like promoting the Keto guido. I got Chippendales right after that because now I was like, yeah, taking my shirt off. I taught me a couple of years before that I was I was heavy, I was, you know, fifty, I was like two hundred pounds twenty five thirty percent body fat at a dad bought. Wow, And the Keto thing helped me. I will say. Now I'm more of like a paleo guido. Now, right, you eat healthy, but you know you kind of just got to listen to your body. You know, like, you know, some keto food works for me. I still live low carb, but you know, if I want to make some like almondflower muffins and they have bananas in them, I'm no, it's not keto, you know what I mean. So yeah, no, for sure, no ish way of life, Paleo. I live by that. It makes me feel great.
Call a flower pizza, that's not call aflower.
Yeah, it's like there's like there's definitely like flower in there, you know. And yeah, and then you know, I have my cheat meals every once in a while, and you know, it works to keep me to keep me good. But when I do Chippendale's, that's like that's like an all year round commitment. That's like, oh wow, six months before I'm like, oh God, like I got to start like counting my calgiy. It becomes a job at that point.
So is that so was that your motivation? I think my next question before we even getther though, is did you ever go through body dysmorphia? How do you ever been bullied for your weight? Or like did you know you had to be on television or you had to be naked basically during Chippendale's Was your motivation or was it just for you to feel healthy?
Yeah? I mean I definitely I never had abs before, even like with the years of Jersey Shore and stuff like, I didn't even know it was possible for me to have abs. And once I did the keto, the abs and everything started coming naturally to me. That's I was like, you know, it's great, right And then like once as because I did, I did Tchipaneus for like a few years. So as I started doing the residencies, it did start to become a job. It got a little bit obsessive because unfortunately I have to now work at it. I can't just like a lot of people have genetics where they could just wake up and be ripped up and that's not me. So I definitely have body this morphia. I look at myself sometimes I'm like, oh my god, I'm so bad. Right now, I'm like dealing with an injury, a back injury. So I haven't been able to work out for real in like two months, and you know, I can literally see like my waistline growing in front of me. It was actually funny on Dancing with the Stars I from, So I was there too long.
You know, we all know that you were not We're gonna get there, but no, no, you weren't. Actually I just watched all your dances this morning. You were were great, by the way, but back then were great. Talk about body this morning, I had dance dys morphia. Back then, I'm sure I'm just gonna finish this. So I was obviously.
You know, you're like losing a crazy amount of weight on that show, not even from the moving, but just from like stress of the depression. And I remember I got off the show, and I only missed one week because I got off in the before the semi finals, and then it was one week, and then the next week was the finale, and I came back for that. They went to put my pants on me. They had to take my pants in in the now and literally like, well maybe it was two weeks, but I had that's how quickly I gained weight that they had. The tailor had to take my pants in. I hear you. But I've gotten better, like forgiving myself, loving myself a lot of different.
Look I go through body. I still have body dysmorphia. It's never going to go away.
Well it's perfectionism, you know, and you know I try not to be you know, I have no such thing. I give myself room for more variability now and like right now, I'm not my best self, but I'm going to work with what I got. I'm going to keep moving forward, and when my interview is I'll get back in the gym. That's really all I can tell myself.
That's amazing because I think this is an important conversation because not a lot of men would ever, I think think that other men go through body dysmorphia. It's more of like a girl's thing and it's not actually, and especially if you're shaking.
Those body builders in the gym all have body dismissing.
Oh I'm sure, I'm sure. And God knows what else they're doing other than just a healthy diet and exercise right, and like, look, I'm not going to say that. I never abuse certain things to try and you know, be like, like you said, my body is curvy and that's just the way it is. I've got hip bones. And a lot of these girls are just naturally tiny. They're just like your partner was naturally tiny.
But you know, no, I like my curve.
I know, oh, I know.
That's why I get confused when girls are like, I'm like, well, I encourage that.
You know, not every guy likes this and the TV doesn't.
Like it whatever, but yeah, I happen to like that. So if you do have them, ladies.
Yeah damn you slide into his dms. But yeah, you know, the TV does add ten pounds. And then when you know I'm trying on poor wardrobe, like the insecurity that would go through my mind. I would just take it out on Daniella, right or like whoever was doing my fitting, and it's it's just not fun.
Well, you guys are also like naked exactly and afraid your stomach's out like you know, and and.
And that's why or backfat if I have a back roll after I'm doing like a somber role, I'm like, oh my.
God, no, that's awesome. Though you guys are like professional athletes and and also you know, we're moving around. I feel I feel like everyone feels. I'm not gonna lie. Actually you don't. Looking back on it, I was like, I can't. I can't unbude my shirt. I had pizza last night, you know, right now. Back on it now, I was like, skin and bones is crazy.
Oh my god, I just had this the same exact experience. I was going through my phone and I was like looking at pictures and I was like, for sure, I was thinking I was fat back then, and I was almost I was I was borderline really too skinny. In my head, I look like a freaking what are they called praying mantis?
We all have to be like Val. You know, I was eating pizza with him one night. The next day he's at practice shirt off. He looks good though too, you know, like he's moving so much that it's not doing anything.
Was Chippendale's your did did you find?
Like?
What did you learn from that experience? Like a lot of dancers from the show or celebrities like my ex brother in law Joey Lawrence, I think did it? I think I could be totally wrong. Iron's eering was one of my part he did it, But you were there for a long time.
Oh yeah, I've done probably like five to six residencies there. There's definitely and Tyson Beckford was just on the last season there. Yes he was. There's a there's a Chippendale's Dancing with the Stars pipeline. That's awesome for sure. And no, it's just like, I'm not doing Jersey Shore and reality shows all year round, right, And I love to work, right, so I like going project to project to projects. So if there was ever a chunk of time, that's the way we would do it. We would we would pick a chunk of time in my calendar where it worked for me and it gave me another project to work on where it's live, and then you know, it's just fun. I mean Las Vegas headlining a show. There's someone new in Vegas every week that wants to come to your show. And I loved being like yeah, like and it's low stakes too, Dancing with the Stars. I used to hit that Chippendale straight stage like this is all because it was low stakes. Nobody cared if you messed up. You know, I was drunk drunk. Everyone's just there to have a good time, And yeah, it was. It was. If it wasn't for the body thing, I would probably do it like indefinitely, you know what I mean. But the body thing, it is tough.
To see you guys are working out constantly after Like is it just you don't just wake up, put on nothing and then perform like you have to work at it.
No, I have to work at it, like I said six months before, you know what I mean. And at a certain point the money doesn't add up for the amount of time money for like when you're there, but the job starts like all year round and you know, you're counting calories and it's like very meticulous and stuff, which I like to do. Anyway. I did like that. It got me in shape. But at a certain point you just got to be like, oh, man, like is this worth it or not? You know? But I will say, when you're there, it's kind of like dance with the stars. I'm moving around so much just having that a little you know, those five shows a weekend, it kind is like gaining an extra couple of days in the.
Gym got you was it because of your live experience? Stripping that you just said yes to Dancing with the Stars.
I wasn't. I wasn't a stripper.
Oh I just saw Prez Hilton's little clip that he made I think years ago. Most likely of you, you were basically stripping.
Sorry, it was art, it was performance art.
I'm not saying strips. Let me tell you something. My father used to own strip clubs. Okay, rest in peace. That ship is hard. It's like it is. It's a you're an athlete.
Well, I look, I do like because a lot of people, you know, they like to throw in my face. You know, Well it's another conversation. But when I'm getting it, when I'm getting into my to my debates, sure, everyone debates. Everyone's like, yeah, but you were a stripper. I'm like, well, there's.
Levels too, stripping not stripper.
Well. Chippendale's is a live show in Las Vegas in a theater, correct one. There is a professional dancer, singer, there's a real artists. There's oh really yeah. People went to like Juilliard there, Like, shut up, they just cast Juilliard. They cast real dancers happened to be hunky guys to be there. Their dancers. They grow a couple of like eye candy guys that kind of stand in the back. Yeah, they do for the most part, like rehearsals, costumes, wardrobe, it is their wardrobe.
Yes, jeans, towels I actually have for my for my bachelorette. I was there.
If you if people saw the backstage at Chippendale's, it is a full blown, like off Broadway play the way that these guys are getting right, No, I hear you. The show happens to be like a stripper based show.
You know, listen, you guys are very much you guys rehearse. I know that your spacing is perfect, Like it's a full on thing. Like I do know that they're very aware of the space.
There's a dance captain. Like I'm not saying it's Broadway, but it's like it's a Vegas show. There's anyway. Then there's like an actual there's actual male strip clubs where you can go like I don't even know, it's like the Hustler Club or something where you could actually get lap dancers from guys you give them money and those are like actual real male strippers. Yeah, Chippendales is not that totally elevated or whatever. To answer your question, No, I mean that didn't really. I always wanted to do Dancing with the Stars, you know, I always wanted to. I knew it. Yeah, I knew when I saw my castmates do it. I'm a competitive guy. I'm an athletic guy. I always knew that it would be like a show that would be a silly side reality show that actually is kind of fun to do. There's a competition, I like, you know, there's dance involved because people are There's way crazier side reality shows out there that I say no to all the time.
Oh yeah, like what, I don't know, pick.
One, like you're in the middle of the Woods, Big Survivor. Well there, I have been asked to do like celebrity type of survivors, you know what I mean, all those there's a new one every week, you know. Of course, of course, I don't want to do anything that doesn't kind of stimulate.
Me, right, Or your mom was a fan of dancing, I'm assuming of Dance with the Stars.
Oh yeah, well I used to watch it with my whole family, like back oh.
Even before Mike was on or Nicole.
Yeah, way back when when I was when I was in like when I had that short Bob like that back two thousand and six. I used to have.
That wasn't me and Karina? Oh my god?
Yes?
So had they asked you prior to you doing this?
No? No, I never. Oh actually I was in the talks, I think to do it the season before got it and it didn't work out. I said, keep me in mind, whatever because of your Chippendale's schedule or Jersey Shore. No, I think it didn't work out for Oh yeah, probably Jersey Shore. A lot of times they ask you at the last second, like we need to know tomorrow if you could be in some things around, you know, But it worked out for the next season for sure.
How much did the show consume your life.
Every day all day? Uh? You know, I'm sure everyone says the same thing, But it consumed my life. It consumed my life a little too much looking on it, because you know what, I'm what, I've learned a lot about my I have a little bit of OCD and and perfectionism. And if you let it consume too much of your life at a certain point, I feel like it has a paradoxical effect and backfires on you and makes you more nervous, and when you're more nervous, you don't dance as well, so I probably should have put it down a little bit. You know, maybe if you were my partner, you would have been like Vinnie, like take a few shots.
Punched you just punched you across the face. It would have been fine. You would have been out. You would have been out of your head, that's for sure.
Well I will, I don't know if we're going to get to it. But you know, the reason I'm doing this podcast is because I owe Sheryl.
That's right, a lot.
Actually, well just just from nodding veteran being there, and also just you know, having like you were the you were the calm energy that.
Was always around because you put you gave everybody a reality check because you've been around it so much that this is not the most important thing in the universe. And that's what that's literally what it feels like when you're backside.
I know, I know, I know, and I know, and I have so much compassion.
For you what it is though it is a big deal. It is it's a lot, and there's a million people there and you don't know how to dance, and.
It's your ass, your vulnerable ass, literally naked out there feeling like you're naked at least, and just.
Like, no, i'd be good at that.
Then you would have won the damn thing. But like, that's the thing. It's just that I understand that how consuming it is. But this is part of why I left too, Like there's damned if you do, damned if you don't. Right, Like, I've approached it so many different ways in twenty six seasons. I've approached it to where it didn't consume my life, but then it looked like I didn't care when I was out there, and then and I'm like you, I do have OCD tendencies and I am a perfectionist, even though there's no such thing. But my as I got sober, my the voices in my head got just louder, and it was like I couldn't continue on this same trajectory anymore in my life, you know, after like it is so hard for it not to consume it, especially even as a pro answer that even though we know what we're doing, the pressure of like here I go again, doing the same damn choreography, you know, and then that one comment will get to me to the point where it's like paralyzing.
I get it, and I said this on another show or something. I was like, you know, you guys are going Oh. Actually, Coco came on my podcast and I was like, you know, you guys are going through your own pressure. It's not about a dance, about the choreography, it's about your partner and everything that you have to deal with with that. So it's not like the dancer gets off easy, you know, no.
You are you are our work, like you are projecting that right, And for Coco couldn't have been easy. Did she go through insecurities? I'm sure she did.
It was not easy for Coco. We had a rough time, you know. On my season, we got you know, just completely, which is hilarious because you know, you'll you'll watch a season where someone is in my shoes of the of the non dancer guy, you know, like this is like harry him. But also like at one point I was watching it, I only watch first few episodes, but the realtor guy, Yeah, he forgot like a whole move, which is completely fine. Like it's again like it's the hardest thing in the world, right, I remember like one oh, so like when the judges were it's all about how the judges judge you. It's not about the dance move you can mess up ten times. It's all about the reaction from the judges, because that's the narrative of America, right, not necessarily, well, that's how it feels, you know, like if because what they did with him, they were because I remember I did that too. I was doing the chot Shop and it was really quick moving in the beginning, and my brain and my legs just discontinue.
There was no beat though, f yi, I don't know what. I don't know what could have happened that I just saw it this morning. You were off time, but because there was no clear like, I don't know if the band messed up. I don't know.
It's hard. Yeah, you're listening to a band, like everything is different.
Click click click to the.
Live ship, which is completely different. Anyway, I mess it up. There's the only time I ever literally messed up a step in the whole show and finish the rest of the dance. You know, you would think like they did for Mauricio whatever. When you get there, they'd be like, hey, let's try to find one thing that you did right. You know, you just it's not like it's harder to to mess up and then continue and to finish an entire correct correct So they do that for certain people, but none of that was for me. They like, for me, if I messed up, they judged me like I was a real dancer.
You know, right, Your scores were very they were very hard on you, and I can only think, Okay, this is everyone, this is a conspiracy theory. Don't shoot the conspiracy theorist. I believe that they could have given you a four or five during those earlier weeks and it didn't matter, like you would have gone through regardless, because let's not forget here. Yes, okay, First of all, they changed the voting system from when you were on back to the way it normally was, which was they don't judges, don't pick anymore who goes home? Meaning like the reason why they did that initially was because we had Bobby Bones. You know who Bobby Bones is?
Yeah, I know the story.
Okay, So I just had him on the podcast, and because he wasn't great, a lot of people assumed that he was. He didn't care, and that was this guy would cheat. He full one said it, he goes I would after the four allotted hours that they give you blah blah blah, which is BS. But he went to go rent studios on his dime like right of course, and by the way, same of course we all do that. Are you kidding? They put the four hours with interviews. You gotta do this, you gotta do out of studio packages. And it's impossible the show wouldn't be where it is today if that was the case. Anyway, the point is is that because of him and his win was the reason why it flipped as far as the elimination process goes. And then Conrad Green came back to the picture and he let it just go another season, which is the season you joined. And then now it's back to the way it was, which means it was it originally was fifty to fifty, so it's a point system, so it's fifty percent judges fifty percent audience votes. And I don't think you would have been gone if that was the case when you got eliminated in that double elimination with Heidi Dmilio.
Yeah. I mean, look, I you know, I would have stayed forever if, like I said, each week, they were just being more realistic towards me. But I was just chosen for whatever reason. Like I heard, Harry wasn't, Mauricio wasn't. They didn't choose them as the villain. Not a villain, but guy that pick on type of thing.
No, Harry was picked on, was he? Yeah, no, it was. It actually affected him to the point where he actually had to say something.
He was picked on by the people. I was getting that too well.
He was getting fours and fives like it never it never moved, like I did this whole review on it. It wasn't high, Like he never got an eight.
I didn't watch really, but like I said, just every week, you know, they're they're really the judges were really you know, you had to go into the next week feeling like you had to climb out of a hole with the judges.
And then on top of it, you had the hate from the diehard Dancing with the Stars fans.
Then you start to get the hate from the people. That wasn't too bad, actually that really yeah, because like I don't think I gave the even though people were like he shouldn't be there, I didn't give the impression that like I wasn't trying.
Oh okay, good good, because I thought so I thought initially because you had expressed you know, we talked a lot, and I just I had so much compassion and empathy for your situation. And it's like, sometimes you do have to give people a reality check here because you're not curing cancer. But also it is discouraging, like let's just be real here, we're human beings. We're freaking working our asses off, like it is seven days a week and that is it, right, like, and that is it. It's up to you. Like this formula. Whoever created this formula is brilliant because you're just like, yeah, they can say that you have days off, but you're you're the one that has to go out there and shake your ass off. No, and even like the good dancers, there's no way anyway. My point is is that did they give you I don't remember because it didn't show this on YouTube, but did the judges give you constructive criticism to where you can go back and work on it?
Or were they just mean, you know a little bit by But it was very it was if they did, if like you know, if they did at all, it was very hidden in just like TV a bunch of meanness, you know what I mean? They were kind of mean to Coco too, so like I know we're both we're both getting it. And like I said, just like going into rehearsal that Monday be like another week, you know it kind of it kind of just made the whole process like not that enjoyable at it.
Of course, you know, of course, especially when other people are getting praise and all of that. But look, they used to be really mean back in season one. I'm doing these rewatches right now, and I mean told the winner of season one that you know what, you're just not You're just not You're not fit to be a dancer, and that was it. That was it, that was it. I was just like, that's crazy. But I also know it's television, Like is that what saved you in a way, knowing that you're on a reality type variety show.
I mean, you know, I guess at a certain point though, when you're on Dancing with the Stars, like you kind of want to if you feel like the judges and the people don't want you there, you kind of just be like yo, like I tap out, like this is not for me, Like you know what I mean. If you want a professional dance competition, leave it to dancers, like like more power to you, like you know what I mean, Like I don't want to be here, like like if in that and that's in that case. You know, So it wasn't like, you know, at a certain point, I felt like, you know, guys, like there was half the people that wanted me to be there because you know, maybe I brought some fun to the show you did. But then there's another half of people that are literally judging an actual ballroom competition. And I used to say to them in the comments a couple of times I snap a little bit. I'm like, I'm like, guys, Coco is a miracle worker. I've never learned a dance step in my life, let alone these complex dances she's working with what she has. I encourage you if you want to watch a ballroom competition, which I really encourage you to do because I've gotten to know you guys pretty well, they're amazing, and go watch those. But it's not Dancing with the.
Star, No, no, they know that.
That's taking a goofy reality star and giving him steps to see what he can pull off. And it's actually three days and three days, and it's actually on live TV with a live band in front of a live audy. It's actually pretty amazing what you guys do.
So it's also amazing what you do. Did I feel bad like for Coco too, because it's like, you know, this is the thing, you're stepping into a well oiled machine, and it's like you know, any little thing right, It's like you it can't be easy. Also, Riley Arnold, Lindsay's sister. She was dancing with Harry Jowsey as well, and she's she's gotten a lot of slack. Look the celebrities, I feel like that do this show. I think you're right. I think sometimes the judges may feel like, Okay, this one I can pick on a little bit more. You know, he's got he's a little bit more grounded, or he's a little bit more he's able to take it. I don't know what they're thinking. Obviously young you know he's got his whole career ahead of him. And he was on the Jersey shore like, oh he can he deserve Like they did the same thing to Rob Kardashian when I danced with him, right, it was like people were booing at him, so I was going to cry for him. People were booing at us when we were walking out from back then it was the red room backstage, and then they aired our package and they cut the package to make it look like he was a spoiled brat, because like there was a few soundbites that I had said, like get to work or whatever, but this poor man like and it really messed with his head.
Yeah. Well, first of all, I think there's two ways of looking at it. I don't know if I would have like taken it back the other way, because I feel like it's either and you would know more than me, but it's either the judges like you and the people don't, or the people like you and the judges don't.
The people's winner, yes, exactly.
So like I wasn't getting booed, the judges would get booed when they would talk to me, right, So absolutely, that's that's fine. But also at the same time, you're in the room doing it in front of the judges, and it would still be nice to hear them be somewhat constructive.
And also they don't compare you to other people, just so you know, there's no way, like there's actually no there's no physical way because in real dance competitions, we all dance on the floor together. We're doing the same dance to the same song, not the same choreography, but there's a bpm to each dance, as you know, in each song. But like, there is no way of comparing people like that. You can't you actually to the naked You actually can't. You can't compare it chacha to a waltz.
There's just no way, right, right, But were you going to ask something about the reality show, like, because I was pretty familiar with that part of it. Yeah, I've been doing that for fifteen years. Like, producers can't manipulate me. I know exactly what's going on.
You though, did you know what exactly was going on?
I didn't know what was going on with the like the packages, No, the packages. Yeah, that was fine.
I got you knew what not to say, or like you knew what to because I didn't know. I had to learn hard.
Remember the that we would do the hometown the packages. That's where I became the professional, Yes, and Coco was the novice. Yes. That was fine, it it is. My story just kind of got like a little old after a while because it was like, all right, I would do the interview and be like all right, like you got the lowest score again, I'd be like, yeah, I got the lower score again, now what you know? Yeah, like I had no there was like one week where I had like a good redemption. I got a couple eights and stuff.
Now you got eights a lot. Actually I just saw it. You got eight's like the last two three dances you did, you got it eight eight, seven seven. One time you got all eights.
I want to talk about. Yeah, I was talking about that week. Well, you know, and here's my another another inside gripe I had with the show. Give it the scores. I feel like, go according to what week it is? Oh, Like the way I was working was I feel like I had my better dances up front, but because it was so early on, they didn't want they needed me to have like a like an arc, right, so I would have done my quick step. It was only week two, that's normal, No, no listen, So I did my quick step. It was week two and I got I got like sixes time of the competition. Sixes were high in week yes because like Charlie Dmilio, like she was so happy to get like yes six week one. Meanwhile, at the end, if she didn't get a ten, it would be like what is going on here? You know? Totally yeah, I had some better dancers that dances that had they been later on, I feel like would have been nines and stuff like that, you know what I mean.
I think you improved, though, I think you improved more than Charlie Demilio improved. I think Damelio already started so good. You know. That's the thing, Like this correct and that's not what the show is, like I'm at the bottom, No, but you're you. You were growing into who you whatever it was that you were doing and showcasing. Like, first of all, what you did was not easy. I get listen, I've had them all as far as celebrities go. And the way you executed an exaggerated movement is not natural for you. Like I'm sure Coco is yelling at you, like you have to exaggerate like everything, right, like from your posture and the way you have to hold yourself to the elvis freaking stupid air guitar thing, and then like everything and not.
Only that, what people aren't seeing, which is invisible is like I developed a sense of stage fright from that show.
I never stated I'm just gonna tell you about it.
Yeah, well I was doing You're excited. It is honestly like and again, I now I'm leaving room for variability with that variability of who I am as a human. I was doing those dances at around like thirty percent of who I am. Because when you have debilitate, debilitating stage fright, you're literally moving in slow motion. It's you feel like you have ankle weights on. I know maybe you didn't because you didn't have this problem, but no, I did you feel like you have ankle weights on? You're you're It's pretty much like doing the doing the dance in the beginning, I hear you while you're having an anxiety attack. Yes, the room like.
The stress response. You're frozen in a way, rights in.
And and so all those dances you're seeing me do, I was doing frozen.
Like outer body feeling right.
So you know, it's amazing, How how how now I know more about this stuff now, but the human body and brain is amazing. How even in that moment, feeling like that, I was still able to adapt and pull off the dances from all of the repetition and the muscle memory.
Absolutely, I mean, did you ever feel good. I don't feel good, like I don't know, Like I'm listening to like literally like beats in my head like that mess with your brain, Like I mean still still as when I retired like that last dance freaking out, the voices in my head just got louder and I was listening to this like what is it called? I forgot what it's called, but it's these like beats, like binural beats that would calm me in my anxiety down because I learned this from doctor Andrew Huberman, like it it's a real thing, and it did help. But still, man, like I get it, and did you know that you had stage fright.
The only time I felt somewhat calm up there was that week where I h I messed up during the chat cha because the mess up was in the first five seconds.
It was only the first five second, yes.
Right, So then after that, once you mess up, I know, now your brain stops effing with you because it's like you're already messed up. You got it out of your system. And then I felt completely calm.
And I just it was great. After that, I was like, oh.
I know this dance, you know what I mean? The brain tries to mess with you until you mess up. It's like, are you getting myself? Are geting myself? Do you have it? Do you have it? Do you have it? You know it's crazy. It's just you're dealing with a lot of like a psychological battle that people don't see. You know.
I always say that it's a the battle of not physical, is all psychological. Do you okay? So when I guess you didn't know, So you didn't know you had stage fright, not even for chippendales.
I never had stage fright, like, not even.
Chippendales at all. You didn't feel like this at all.
No, I've been on stages my entire life. I literally, you know, I can like host when.
You do stand up, you didn't feel it.
And well stand up, I do get stage fright because it's pretty much like anything that's like really important to you. You know that you're that you feel desperate to do a good job.
Crazy, I get it.
What is what gives you the biggest nerves? I mean it makes sense, you know, and sends you into fight or flight.
Mm hmm.
But still like nerves are good to a certain point. So like I've always had nerves with other things, But my love for the entertainment aspect of it always outweighed the nerves. So you would use the nerves as like adrenaline and then you would outweigh it. But on dancing a kind of like I said, like, the nerves are to outweigh the Let me be a ham and entertain here because the margin of error is so small, it's like a micro friggin inch. It's live too, yeah, mess up and it's live, so it can't be like, oh, I'm just gonna go have a good time.
I hate when people say that, shut.
Up, Why aren't you having a good time? Just oh no, No, you need to relax and lose it up. That's the best one.
No, how about like when I ask people on this podcast, what is one regret that you had?
I just wish I had more fun. First of all, that will never happen, Like I never just had fun. Maybe if you were dancing like regularly somewhere.
But how about with the group numbers, did you have fun?
Oh a little bit, because now your brain is not as desperate to pull it off because you know you have support around you and stuff like that. I will say all of the process in between show time was fun. I loved the rehearsal rehearsals. I loved, you know, learning with Coco. I love, I love Coco.
Did you work with Kiki her fiance?
Yeah? I love I love Kiki. He's great to hang out with them. It was just really once it became showtime, it's serious.
Yeah.
I was going to say, like another funny comment I would get. They'd be like, you need to loosen up or something. Meanwhile, like I'm doing and the whole.
Thing is like, yes, you can't break hold correct like you don't know what. It's so crazy. Okay, So, speaking of all this anxiety and like stage fright, do you understand why maybe like Mike may have been numbing through his process of like you know there it was obviously he wrote a book and it revealed a lot of him smuggling pills. I mean, I think the word smuggling is a little bit weird. I don't know, I don't know if he was smuggling from like Cuba, but it was like just like from across the nation.
Uggly Jordan sneaker.
It was like, so it was like, oh, smuggling. But then if you really think about it, you're like, wait, this is a smuggling the pharmacy.
Like I'll take that, right, Like.
You just go to CBS. Do you understand do you think that that was directly correlated to him having stage fright or.
So with his addiction? Well with Mike, you know he had his addiction before, of course, yes, But you know, I bet you Mike was so numb to every project he was doing back then that you know, I mean, I will say, even without the drugs, though, Mike would probably still be better at that show than me, because.
But he wasn't.
No, no, I don't mean physically, I.
Mean mentally got it.
Because Mike only sees as far as his nose there is. He's like a goldfish. We all wish we were more like that, right, you know, so like, uh, he sometimes I feel like he's too stupid to know he's stupid or something, you know, totally, which is great and uh but back then, though, you know, he just you know, he was just on a world win of being like one of the biggest stars in America at the time, while dealing with a drug addiction, while being on Dancing with the Stars, and you know, but for him, like he did the four weeks and he was good.
And he did it with your girl Karina.
When you do the eight weeks, it starts to get rough.
For sure, because it's not just eight weeks. Wait, so you mentioned that you also cheated. Did you rent studios or you rehearse or you brought codd.
I would do it. I would do it. I would. I would call Coco up. I would actually send her videos of me doing it in my kitchen. Cute. Yeah, like I would literally, But it was too much though. I had to put it down at a certain point because sometimes you rehearse so much that you start to forget the first thing.
Well, then you jinx yourself. You're like, wait, wait wait, you're like Bobby was saying this, he goes. I just was like psyching myself out one time, and I was like, what's the beginning? Yeah, I don't even know the beginning to my routine.
I would never say this to Coco, but like, I don't know if you've ever been there as a teacher, because I learn weird, wacky things all the time, like people. I have an Instagram jump roping page. It's it's called Vinnie Jumps, right, And I do like old choreography and athletics.
That's awesome. There's this one hot jump rope I follow. Actually, maybe I'm wonder of the series that.
I'm like, dude, yeah, yeah, I was doing it before him.
You know what I'm talking about, right.
Because everyone sent it to me. I'm like, guy, go to page.
He says a little awkward, but when he's jump roping, he's hot.
Well he just like has a great camera and he's a good guy. He could do anything. He could like be like reciting the alphabet. But no, So like the way I learned better was like not watching the super technical professional people. It's watching the people that are a few levels below them, so that it's like I relate to those people better someone. For example, Well, I'm saying like if I was learning a jump rope, move right, I saw a professional person just I'd be like, what the hell is going on? But if I saw someone that was like one step above me that was doing it, I would be like, okay, Like I can kind of see. It's attainable how the brain is putting these things together. Right, So the same thing with like dance, like I know that we're learning it so perfectly for the judges and the fingers and the arms and chi. But I'd actually probably learned the dance better if I was watching another celebrity do it. Got it that, Like, wasn't that great? Because I used to do that too. I still go watch other celebrities. I'm like, how were they pulling this off? Because this is something I can relate to more because if you put the overall picture, yeah, because then you just finish a dance, and like it's TV, they're not looking for the celebrity to be completely perfect.
If I always say that, like when you mess up, it's probably a close up of your face, like no one's gonna see you, right.
So like I would almost like, instead of like teaching the celebrities to do it so perfec like you would teach an actual ballroom dancer, It's like, how do I teach the celebrity this almost at like fifty percent so that it's like attainable for them? Then? Don't get me wrong, if I can nail something every time, and then you'd be like, all right, you know what, while you're doing that, just like close your fingers or something like that.
You know which you did? You did do that hard to do? But wait, hold on, how would you teach you, can you walk? Can you walk me? Email listeners? Just through like a typical week of how of everything, like after Monday night show you got start from like Tuesday.
First of all, Coco and I we clicked instantly. We were like an other and sister. That helped a lot. We just loved hanging out with each other. We're like aligne we have we have the same like, we like the same food, we like the same humor, same music, all that. So that was that was great and then we would get together. Now I was doing chippen Nails at the time, so uh for like the first like five six weeks of the of the show, so I would be in Vegas. She would fly to me. We would rehearse in a dance studio all week in Vegas. I would fly Uh no, no, I'm sorry. I would be in La during the week Sunday for camera blocking Monday, no Monday through Friday, I was La. Friday, I would fly to Vegas. Coco would fly to Vegas with me. We would do two rehearsals there. Sunday I would in the morning fly back Land and go to camera blocking.
And Coco had already left Saturday night Coco.
Had already left it, and we were so we weren't we weren't getting that extra night because.
Well there would have been no extra night technically, technically.
But you know, we have whatever. Yeah, but you know what's funny like, and this goes back to the perfectionism and a lot of my my issues that I deal with today. You know, I actually feel like I was probably having a better time while I was doing all that distracted and I was a little distracted things going on, and instead when I got to La, when Chip and Nails was over, and my whole life became all consuming with totally.
But weren't you shooting Jersey Shore?
So at the end, right? Uh? What not the semi finals? What did I make it to quarterfinals? Quarterfinals? Yeah? So I'm in the quarterfinals, right, And people don't know this, but this is kind of messing with the celebrity too. As you're in the quarterfinals or like even before that, the production people are already.
Asking asking you about your friend Finaley dance. You know, I actually have this question written down for you. Isn't that crazy?
No, I'm like, I'm like, guys, can I just get through this one?
So you thought and I'm sure Coco thought too because it was her first season. Did they you guys think that you were going to make it to the final because of that?
Well, because I kept making it through me being like the more I was suffering, the more people were through. At one point We're like, are we going to the finals? Yeah?
No, It's sure looked like that, right.
So it kind of became like a win win situation for me because I'm like, if I lose, I get to be done with this. I've made it far enough. But you were sad when I'm like, holy shit, like I made it to the finals of Dancing with the Stars, Like this is great. All the stress was like kind of worth it.
Isn't that the worst? What's your music? What's your music that's the worst?
Or Coco is planning full choreography?
God, I was gonna ask you what was.
It she had?
Well, I hope you had the damn Shippendales in your freaking freestyle because that would have been a damn shame.
No, No, the freestyle was I can't believe you guys. Never incorporated was the song from Napoleon Dynamite, which one did ever see when he dances at the end, it's like it just cweeks or something.
Well, yeah, that's a good one.
That's a good one. I was actually looking that would have been funny. I would have given like a performance to like anything goes, I can't believe I'm here, and then like and then the Jersey shortcast would have been there and we would have like fist like it would have been like epic.
You know, I can't believe you did. Never thought of incorporating your hot friends from Shippendale's to come in and do something.
Maybe for the finale, like they would have. I never ro honestly got to the point where you could start having people on stage with.
Here the audience over there's all women just saying if you ever do all Stars, Yeah for sure.
Oh my god, I forgot about this. I'm like, no, I don't want to go back, no, no. So we were so in the quarterfinals, Like if I had made it through to that next week, the semifinals, I would have had to fly to New Orleans, film a week of Jersey Shore twenty four to seven, go to a dance studio every day with Coco, learn two dances because the semifinals.
Is two and they're longer ninety seconds each well at least.
Fly Back to La performed the dances and at a certain point, like God just took me out of it at the right time.
Thank the Lord Jesus. I mean, mind, you remember we talked about We talked right before you went out or right before you got eliminated, and you had said this to me, and I was like, you know what everything's meant to be, dude, because it just gets worse. Like you have two dances now, but you have two longer. They'll like even three seconds. You're like, yeah, what three seconds? And that's more like ninety seconds.
That's it.
I'm like, that's a long time.
And that's why having like some like like an inkling of dance experience as the I don't think it helps at the celebrity you don't think so.
It doesn't help. I'll tell you that much.
Listen.
I've I danced with Ajmclean from the Backstreet Boys, And it's harder to untrain your brain than to train it. So like even when I went to Argentina to really learn how to Argentine tango, like authentically, I couldn't untrain my brain. Like for example, you know, we do like these arms. But in Argentine tango they want everything natural and it's pedestrian like and it's not manufacted. Nothing is manufactured. And let me tell you something it I mean, it just killed me that I couldn't untrain my brain. And like with someone like Emmett Smith that I danced with, it was so much easy. Easier to train someone who has zero nothing to compare it to because he's never done this before. But what he has naturally that you can't teach either is rhythm a little bit. He has musicality, he has soul, you know, he had charisma. You can't teach that.
So I was just thinking of like Sorley or like Wayne.
Even her, I'm sorry, she wasn't too perfect. She was like, if you're really gonna dissect it, and even Wayne no way, of course.
But like at least like you know, they know what counting.
Is, so that you know you have rhythm, you know what.
I didn't know how to end counts and count.
She didn't even need to say that to you. Coco could have just sung it like that that we did.
We did ziggy ziggysas and stuff like that. But I think I was a better at a certain and again, this is all the stuff that you don't know. You're figuring it as you go. Am I a better counter? Am I a better music person? Am I a better lyric person? And uh, you just don't know until and honestly, until it's over, you're like, oh, I was better at that.
So what would you do different if you did All Stars?
Well, I would definitely not put as much importance on the show as I do. There's ways like I'll like, like, we'll talk to my therapist about it. But it's like, uh, it's like permission giving, like you can like I get like I give the crowd permission to hate me.
You know what I mean is out of your control type thing that you're surrendering out.
Of my control. I'll leave room for variability to where if I'm not my full self, I'll I'll still use whatever I can to do it. I'm not saying I wouldn't be an animal and rehearse and learn it. But instead of being like when my when my thought comes in at the end of the night, where I'm like, get up and run it more time, I'll be like, no, you did it already.
No I don't. I don't know how to do that, dude, if you ever get there.
Me neither. That's why I'm saying, yeah, try to do that differently.
That's awesome, rapid fire. Hold on to your seatbelts. Who falls in love first the celebrity or dancer the celebrity. Have you hooked up with the fan?
Sure? Yeah?
Have you hooked up with anyone on Jersey Shore as far as your co stars go?
Well, yeah, it was on TV.
Cast members on Dancing with the Stars hooked up with any of them?
Huh? Not from this season. I'm trying to think if there was any.
Oh my god, no, no, I think you did.
I think you wanted some kind of scandal love story.
But no, okay, wait, I think that was the wrong question. Did you hook up with any dancers on or off this season, last season, or the season you're on.
No, No, Dancing with the Stars people, But there was the whole.
Gabby X Dancing with the Stars. I'm not even talking about her X Dancing with the Stars people. No, you're such a letter audience member.
I know you do.
I oh, come on, you know who exactly? You know who I'm talking about? I have no one talk later, audience member. Do you have you ever hooked up with? Like an audience member had no idea who you talking at Chippendales. You definitely know who I'm talking about.
On another dancer, but it's from another show. Correct, But like, so was she at the wrap party? No, she wasn't the party.
Okay, audience member at chippen Dale's. Did you hook up with anyone?
Yes? I have?
Oh, look at you Jersey Shore dance off, pants off? Nicole versus Jenny? Who would win?
Nicole for sure?
Pollie versus Vinny?
Would he do it?
Oh?
You mean like Dancing with the Stars? Yeah, ballroom, ballroom, I'll win Paul does Polly? Wait? Wait, I would win ballroom over PAULI for sure? Correct? Yes, yes, yes, yes, but he's a good dancer. The DJ is red, you know maybe in other areas.
That doesn't mean you have her you have rhythm.
No, I got it with the ballroom because I'm more of a I got it well, ballroom is like a math equation.
The devil's in the detail. Correct. Yeah, And how about Nicole and Jenny? Do you think Jenny would be good?
No, Jenny has Jenny has Jenny can't even like up and like, say the alphabet without getting petrified. She's still the worst stage fright ever.
Oh this could be good for her though, it could.
You know, And she's like very she's like me. She's like a smart person that can like dedicate herself to it.
Ronnie versus Mike.
Are we going? Are we still ballroom dancing here? Correct?
Definitely Ronnie Dina versus Nicole, because you guys have an audit group of numbers, so I had a repeater.
Nicole Nicole Nicole.
Cole did great Nicole, And did you know that she got eliminated with like a whole like when this happens on Halloween night? She got eliminated, so she looked crazy.
That happened, so cute.
I love her. Craziest thing you've done on camera that never aired?
Go This is the worst question because where you've done so many things were no where Jersey Shore are They always aired the worst things?
But how about on Dancing with the Stars, Well, dance go Ahead?
That never aired?
I'm sure a lot. It's always exacting.
What did I do? And dancing I was a grandpa?
Did you guys ever have to like do like like any type of inappropriate whatever language? And because I know Coco is.
Obviously we would definitely curse backstage. Yeah, we like you know, I might have had some words for the judges.
Sometimes Love is Blind versus the Bachelor? Which one would you do?
A bachelor?
Would you actually do it?
Wait? Am I the Bachelor? Am I?
The one? Would be the bachelor or one of the blinds? So iding love I would be either the main bachelor.
Main bachelor or one of many. Wouldn't be one of many? I'm a one of one.
Oh yeah, that's right if I had to do that.
But if I had to be the one of many, I'd probably do the Love is Blind.
I think they have to do a celebrity like look right, like they should do. Actually, half normal people have celebrities. I've already pitched it.
I kind of want to see what I'm what I'm looking at. I think that show is stupid.
You do?
Yeah? I believe in physical action for sure?
Oh yeah, for sure? But okay, most embarrassing moment on Dancing on the Stars that was never shown? You already kind of answered that, ish, but what's the most embarrassing?
But like people didn't even know that it happened because it happened so quickly. But that literally like made my soul leave my body. What when I like messed up that part?
Oh, I just wanted to dance for you whenever. It's just like I saw it all over your But for the most part, though, you look like you had fun. You looked confident.
This is the worst part about it, Sheryl. The worst part about it. And I even the first time I ever talked back to the judges, you talked back to them well, like not in a mean way, but just literally because usually I just be like, I know, is that horrible? The worst part is that I had just done that dance backwards and forwards eight million times and you.
Did it right perfectly. See, this is what kills me. I'm just gonna let it all out. We know that they're watching some sort of something, right, so normally it's like for me, it's if you mess up during dress, then you got to be extra perfect because then they're kind of going off of that because also in their defense too, how it's not easy. It's a live show, Like you're not going to see everything that you saw on television, right, So, but the fact that you didn't mess up that should be the opposite way they should be giving you.
Yeah, I think that they had a pre planned to hate on me that danced before they even saw me mess up. I don't even know what they noticed.
Dating advice for me go though. I don't know if I should be taking dating advice from you because you're not Are you dating? Are you in a relationship?
But I'm on a relationship.
God see, I haven't dated or been intimate with anyone in almost three years.
So then.
No, I can't. No, it's not that easy.
I refuse to use apps. You're not going to appear in your living.
Room, unfortunately, not in my closet over here into my right Should I try apps?
And I refuse?
But I mean, I guess I'm open to it. I don't know. I don't even know.
I mean, look like you gotta you gotta try it. It's not it's not it's crash, but you know it's better.
It is Oh yeah, rayah ryah whatever it's called.
Yeah, I do, Raya. It's everything is everything is the world is trash.
So that's true. So just day yourself. Did you ever have a sexual encounter with two of your co stars? True or false? Like a threesome?
Mike just went about it on Jersey Shore, but not with Oh, it's talking about with.
Mike then BALI non daily mail bro.
Mike, Mike is me write that in his book? I read it okay to sell his book works. Look back in the day when came out, we used to go out every night where they're after parties and like you know, like I'm bringing.
This listen, I get it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but like I don't ever there was never like an orgy where that people are people are thinking of like this porn that we had, which like I do not know.
No, he told he said that he asked for your permission to write about it. You said, yes, I've did some extensive research on you.
Another line, Mike is slick. Mike is slick, which, by the way, I wouldn't have like that. I wouldn't have said, don't do it.
Just the visual though, just make me made me laugh out loud.
Yeah, but it wasn't as like visual as you think.
I got it, okay, Chip and Dales are Magic Mic. By the way, I'm turning forty in May and I am asking my friend to take me to Magic Mic. I've never seen it because I hear it's actually a really good show. But which one should I go to?
You know, I'm ann alumni, so I'm always gonna say Chip and does you know?
But what if you had to? Okay, have you seen Magic Mike years? Good special Forces are naked and afraid? Which show would you do? You have to choose one.
What we're talking about before, over those two special forces?
Would you actually do it?
Uheretories.
I've heard nightmare stories, but I hear you come out a better person. So it just depends on rare your.
Brain like that, Like you know, I would do that because again, it's something that I can get set some kind of like thrill and personal satisfaction over just like some producer starting to mess with me. Like when I do reality shows, I like I like Dancing with the Stars because the stress for me didn't come from the producers. The stress for me, like the people that work behind the scenes are amazing, the wardrobe, the creative people. I'm not used to that world. I'm used to the other side, where the producers are the ones trying to mess with you and creating stories. Yeah right, so this we're not creating stories, but like just like keeping you locked up in a house that you can't escape, from like they're like your prison guards, you know what I'm saying. So that's where I was like, all right, like this is why I like the show, because I like when the stress comes from the competition itself. But Dancing with the Stars is great as like an institution where they up where they treat the talent. Right, you have trailers, you have airwan On Dale granolas. Yeah, we're good anything.
Yeah, So that's just it was the battle of your own head. Then like special forces.
They don't even need to mess with you because like all all the stress is going to come from the competition, you know, and.
The people is trying to save your life in the closest hospital.
Yeah, next to you.
Who from Jersey Shore would do dancing next you think? Or who should do it? Would? Would Polly do it?
Holly would? But he would never have the time he he mean he DJ's like every night of the week.
Well you're not gonna have to choose.
Yeah, and it makes a lot more money DJ.
I'm sure, God damn it. I was showed the DJ. Long as you've gone without being intimate, like.
Two minutes, no one day, months, months, like shut up for sure, two months.
Guys can go that long. I mean meaning not with your self, not with your right hand, I mean just like in general, like with another human body.
Actually on Jersey Shore a couple like a couple of seasons ago, I did no November for eleven days.
That is amazing, even eleven days.
But I'm also like, uh, I'm pretty sure honestly on Dancing with the Stars, I didn't get late at all.
That is not true. That's not what I heard. I mean, it's not okay everyone, everyone just not not me.
But like like I said, three years, I literally was in l A thinking like when I first got there, I'm like, I'm in l A. Got it's great. Two that I was dancing every single day.
I'm sure I didn't turn you on? How like horrible that experience?
Like as I'm like, you know, intimate with the girl, I'm gonna be like thinking of like.
Figure eight, Run Run, Run Run. What is one regret you have about your time? My god, that would be actually a fun video of make.
We could do it.
What's the biggest lesson you learned during your time?
Yeah, probably what I said, probably like not to be so hard on myself. Leave room for variability. You're not perfect. You don't have to be perfect, and uh, you know, just not everything like a lesson that you taught me. This is just a silly show. You're not hearing cancer. Just take a deep breath and like, while the rest of the world are putting so much importance on things like just be more of like a I don't give a shit type of person. Did it help absolutely? I mean in that moment, nobody is doing that.
Yeah.
No, And also like you don't want to hear that from someone like who's just starting out. Yes, not that Cooco was doing that. No, that wouldn't work, or another celebrity. But it's like, Okay, she's been here before, she's making jokes, she's laughing, she's.
I have to for my own because I get it. I'm like you in that sense.
And you're also telling me in the moment like, look, I know you're getting like ransacked by the judges, but you put things into perspective. You're like, you've never done this before, You're doing great, and this is the way the show works.
Fan questions quickly at Kira dot Softball do you play any sports, because she'd obviously yeah.
I played basketball, and uh, like I said, I just got into this mess. What I played basketball, I run, I was doing jiu jitsu, hurt myself, and I jump rope.
Love it. David Chassen eighty nine, why did you do Dancing with the Stars?
Well, we kind of answered that, but I've always wanted to have been a fan forever and just something I always wanted to do.
At J Massias ten. Did you ever ask Gabby out? Just ask her out? Did you ever ask Gabby out?
No? I would have. But people don't realize this, but Gabby was engaged the entire season. She was the entire season. The bat he was there. You're right, he would come to the Yeah, it was at the very end.
Like you, I still kept in touch. What you guys still had Like.
The show was over, we were, We did the tour together, but I never I first saw her in a city outside of working on the show.
So you guys were just like messing with everybody? Is that what happened? Like it was like it was breaking news.
Yeah. So we would literally comment to each other because you know, everyone gets close while you're like doing the show. Yeah, we can comment to each other like like I'd be like that's my baby, mama, or something like that yeah, like breaking news all over the world. One comment. Yeah, after the comment, we started to kind of mess with each other and do another comment, another comment, But that was when I was off the show already.
Was is she your type?
Not honestly, like aesthetically, she wouldn't be my first type. But Gabby has something about her that is Yeah, it's infectious, Yeah, gravitational. You know, she's she's naturally beautiful and uh. I would definitely have taken her on a date had I had the opportunity. But then by that time we were talking about that and the articles were coming out, we were on opposite sides of the country. And I don't do long this what does that mean? I don't do long distance?
Like how how many miles do you do?
Like? I live in Soho and Brooklyn is too far? Shut up? Honestly, like New Jersey, Brooklyn is too far. I'm being a little sarcastic, but New Jersey to hear, would be a long distance relationship or Connecticut or something.
Yoh, dude, okay, just like age is just a number.
Oh it's not. It's we have to be adults. You have to date people that can actually r right.
But people can move you know, if it's serious, just saying yeah.
But it would be nice to build the relationship with someone locally.
You mean you don't want to just move in first and then I'm getting right. That's why I'm single. This is why I'm single.
I might get there soon because.
Kelsey Bell zero three twenty looking back on Jersey Shore, would you have change anything about it? Well, you got you're still on it.
Yeah, I'm still on it. And that show was so crazy. It is what it is.
Yeah at Lily Mitterhoff. Okay, what kind of car do you drive?
Do you drive? I live in the city, so my I have a black Jeep Cherokee. That that's a good question. I never got that. I have a matte black Jeep Cherokee that I just kind of used to like go visit my family. I pay like hundred dollars a month just to keep it there. How much seven hundred a month?
Yo? Be'stirl crazy? Yeah, why you just leave it at your Well, I guess what's the point leave it at your mom's house?
But then like, see I needed to go visit my mom? Correct, right, correct?
I got it? I kick axe Dad. We all know you hate Angelina Jolie. I have no idea who is the next most annoying Jersey Shore cast member? Is Angelina part of your cat? I'm wait, I get it.
She's like a friend of me that I have on the show.
Didn't you woke up with her?
Yes? It was it was a it was a hate bang.
Oh I like that?
All right?
No? No, I mean it was must have been emotional.
Then those are hot sometimes, you know, yeah.
For sure. And then she got engaged on your birthday or something. Is that the same girl?
Yeah, she's like always engaged?
Got it? Red flag? I'm kidding. Did you answer the question you didn't.
Like the rest of them on My On my Family, we're so close, we're all in a group chat with each other.
Where do you see your future career outside of reality TV? That's a good question.
Well, I've been started a podcast.
Uh, I know it's good. I listened to all your episodes.
Thank you? Something went wrong with Finny. I like the podcasting space if I could sort of find my way in there, because you just said you.
Had a million downloads on one I mean, come on, did you just say on one of your episodes? I thought I heard you say you had a million downloads.
Amazing clips, my clips on social I'm trying to train the people on Instagram to go watch the podcast. Good luck with that, right, But on Instagram, all of the clips get over a million, they go viral, so you.
Know its producing your podcast.
Me. I'm doing it all myself.
Good for you.
Yeah, I pay editing and everything. No, I pay for the editing, I pay for the studio and you know I hire. I have like little I have like little clip people.
I have like a whole clip people from the Philippines. No, I'm kidding. Last one Brooklyn at ray VELA twenty four. Are you dating Cheryl l O L No, that would be a hard No. Oh my goodness, I love you. Thank you so much for doing this.
Wow that was some catch up text me, lafter I want to know who bang during the show or who I like? Oh I forgot I have one answer.
No, you definitely payed a dancer okay on the show that was on the show. Okay, wait, hold on, would you like to tell all three listeners where you're like? How to find you?
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