American legal scholar Richard A. Epstein, Laurence A. Tisch Professor of Law at New York University (NYU), joins the show by phone with in-studio guest Hugh Hallman, Attorney, Educator, and former Mayor of Tempe, for the full hour to talk about his recently-authored book The Myth of Birthright Citizenship: What the Fourteenth Amendment Really Says. They dive into the complexities of the Fourteenth Amendment, exploring its history and the concept of birthright citizenship. Professor Epstein shares his expertise, shedding light on the nuances of the amendment and its impact on modern society. With a focus on the intersection of law and history, this conversation is a must-listen for anyone interested in constitutional law and its relevance today.