Seth reflects on the importance of patriotism and American values and how some individuals, including politicians, have lost sight of these principles. He contrasts this with the patriotism and love for America shown by figures like Frederick Douglas, John Marshall Harlan, and Martin Luther King, Jr. The conversation also touches on the role of education, technology, and the need for discernment in today's society. Seth invites listeners to consider the state of American values and the importance of staying true to the country's founding principles, especially in this year of our Semiquincentennial. Producer David Doll updates Seth and the audience on his holiday experience at Tiki Oasis Arizona over the weekend. We're joined by John Dombroski, founder and president of Grand Canyon Planning Associates. Labor Secretary Lori Chavez-DeRemer will be leaving the Trump Administration.