Cam and Ali are joined by one of the most prestigious figures in Australian law, the Hon. Michael Kirby. Michael Kirby was Australia's longest serving High Court judge when he retired, and was the first openly gay man to be appointed the High Court of Australia. He and his husband Johan over their 52 years together have weathered having to keep their love hidden, the tragedy of the HIV/AIDS crisis, and the fight for marriage equality in Australia.

LINKS

• Visit Michael Kirby's website at https://www.michaelkirby.com.au/ 
• Follow Cam @Camerondaddo 
• Follow Ali @Alidaddo
• Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial

Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them at separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au 

CREDITS

Hosts: Cameron Daddo and Alison Brahe-Daddo
Guest: The Hon. Michael Kirby
Managing Producer: Elle Beattie
Producer and Editor: Amy Kimball

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Separate Bathrooms would like to acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora nation, the First Peoples of the land on which we work. We acknowledge that sovereignty was never ceded, and recognise their enduring connections to country, knowledge and stories. We pay our respects to Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all First Nations people listening.