Talking to friends in relationships can be great for a bit of perspective on your own. But imagine if your friends were psychologists who ran their own relationship therapy practice! Kerrie and Adrian Lumbewe join Cam and Ali in the bathroom to chat about how they ended up as a married couple working together in the relationship space, what they see breaking up relationships most often, and the small things couples can do every day to avoid it.

LINKS
Learn more about Motivating Marriages https://www.motivatingmarriages.com.au
Follow Cam on Instagram @camerondaddo. 
Follow Ali on Instagram @alidaddo. 
Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial. 

Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them atseparatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au. 

CREDITS

Hosts: Cameron Daddo and Alison Brahe-Daddo. 
Guests: Kerrie Lumbewe and Adrian Lumbewe.
Managing Producer: Elle Beattie. 
Producer and Editor: Amy Kimball. 

Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au.

Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we recorded this podcast, the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation. We pay our respect to Elders past and present.

Talking to friends in relationships can be great for a bit of perspective on your own. But imagine if your friends were psychologists who ran their own relationship therapy practice! Kerrie and Adrian Lumbewe join Cam and Ali in the bathroom to chat about how they ended up as a married couple working together in the relationship space, what they see breaking up relationships most often, and the small things couples can do every day to avoid it.
LINKS 
<ul>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Learn more about Motivating Marriages <a href="https://www.motivatingmarriages.com.au/">https://www.motivatingmarriages.com.au</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Cam on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/camerondaddo/">@camerondaddo</a>. </li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1">Follow Ali on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alidaddo/">@alidaddo</a>. </li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Follow Nova Podcasts <a href="https://www.instagram.com/novapodcastsofficial/">@novapodcastsofficial</a>. </li>
</ul>
Got a question for Cam &amp; Ali? You can email them at <a href="mailto:separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au">separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au</a>. 
CREDITS 
Hosts: Cameron Daddo and Alison Brahe-Daddo.  Guests: Kerrie Lumbewe and Adrian Lumbewe. Managing Producer: Elle Beattie.  Producer and Editor: Amy Kimball. 
Find more great podcasts like this at <a href="http://novapodcasts.com.au/">novapodcasts.com.au</a>. 
Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we recorded this podcast, the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation. We pay our respect to Elders past and present.

Cameron Daddo, alongside his wife Alison, chat about the journey of their 30 year marriage. They chat about the highs, the lows, and all of the lessons learnt in-between.

They're also joined by some of the most interesting couples in Australia to take a look behind the closed doors of their relationships. It's humorous, it's vulnerable, it's inspiring, it's full of relationship wisdom you just might need to hear. 

Ali and Cam are both patrons for Rize Up - supporting the many families affected by domestic and family violence.

Cameron Daddo, alongside his wife Alison, chat about the journey of their 30 year marriage. They chat about the highs, the lows, and all of the lessons learnt in-between.
They're also joined by some of the most interesting couples in Australia to take a look behind the closed doors of their relationships. It's humorous, it's vulnerable, it's inspiring, it's full of relationship wisdom you just might need to hear. 
Ali and Cam are both patrons for Rize Up - supporting the many families affected by domestic and family violence.

Cameron Daddo, alongside his wife Alison, chat about the journey of their 28 year marriage.

Separate Bathrooms

What Tears Most Couples Apart? (Kerrie & Adrian Part 1)

In today’s episode of Separate Bathrooms, Cam and Ali are shifting focus from romantic to platonic love. For the first time, it’s a friendship taking centre stage, not a romance!

Join The Age and SMH lifestyle editor and author of Just Friends: On the Joy, Power and Influence of Friendship, Gyan Yankovich, along with her friend, author and returning guest, Gina Rushton, for an insightful exploration of friendship.

Listen as they share their own friendship 'love story,' and discuss the lack of language and milestones for friendships compared to romantic relationships. They also chat friendship breakups and breakdowns, male vs. female friendships, and how life can be richer when romantic relationships aren’t the main focus. 

LINKS
Check out Gyan's book Just Friends: On the Joy, Power and Influence of Friendship
See Gyan at the Sydney Writers Festival www.swf.org.au/program/season-2024/best-friends
Follow Gyan on Instagram @gyanyankovich
Follow Gina @ginarushtonauthor
Follow Cam @camerondaddo
Follow Ali @alidaddo
Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial. 

Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them atseparatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au. 

In today’s episode of Separate Bathrooms, Cam and Ali are shifting focus from romantic to platonic love. For the first time, it’s a friendship taking centre stage, not a romance!
Join The Age and SMH lifestyle editor and author of <a data-ti="overview" data-ved="2ahUKEwityJz6v_WFAxU7hlYBHYB2Cq8Q_coHegQIThAB">Just Friends: On the Joy, Power and Influence of Friendship</a>, Gyan Yankovich, along with her friend, author and returning guest, Gina Rushton, for an insightful exploration of friendship.
Listen as they share their own friendship 'love story,' and discuss the lack of language and milestones for friendships compared to romantic relationships. They also chat friendship breakups and breakdowns, male vs. female friendships, and how life can be richer when romantic relationships aren’t the main focus. 
LINKS 
<ul>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Check out Gyan's book <a href="https://www.booktopia.com.au/just-friends-gyan-yankovich/book/9781761152146.html" data-ti="overview" data-ved="2ahUKEwityJz6v_WFAxU7hlYBHYB2Cq8Q_coHegQIThAB">Just Friends: On the Joy, Power and Influence of Friendship</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">See Gyan at the Sydney Writers Festival <a href="https://www.swf.org.au/program/season-2024/best-friends">www.swf.org.au/program/season-2024/best-friends</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Gyan on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gyanyankovich/?hl=en" data-ved="2ahUKEwjx8tSK0vWFAxW6ilYBHefQAxIQFnoECC0QAQ">@gyanyankovich</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Gina <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ginarushtonauthor/" data-ved="2ahUKEwih68b60fWFAxWgqFYBHTs6DlgQFnoECBoQAQ">@ginarushtonauthor</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Cam <a href="https://www.instagram.com/camerondaddo/">@camerondaddo</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1">Follow Ali <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alidaddo/">@alidaddo</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Follow Nova Podcasts <a href="https://www.instagram.com/novapodcastsofficial/">@novapodcastsofficial</a>. </li>
</ul>
Got a question for Cam &amp; Ali? You can email them at <a href="mailto:separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au">separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au</a>.

Should There Be a ‘Marriage’ Equivalent for Friends?

Writer Kerri Sackville and her partner Mike join Cam and Ali in the bathroom today — learn why we'll be inspecting the toothpaste tube once they leave!

In her books, and as a columnist for the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age, Kerri has documented her journey through marriage, divorce and years of dating in mid-life. Her most recent book The Secret Life of You: How a bit of alone time can change your life, relationships, and maybe the world is about embracing solitude. But in learning to be content by herself, Kerri also found love.

There's much to learn from Kerri and Mike's unconventional love story. Listen as they discuss dating in mid-life, the distinction between loneliness and solitude, why being single is better than being with the wrong person, and Kerri's quirky method of cutting bread.

LINKS
Check out Kerri's books at www.kerrisackville.com.au/books
See Kerri at the Sydney Writers Festival www.swf.org.au/writers/kerri-sackville
Follow Kerri Sackville on Instagram @kerrisackville or on Facebook @kerri.sackville
Check out the Mens Table themenstable.org
Follow Cam on Instagram @camerondaddo
Follow Ali on Instagram @alidaddo
Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial. 

Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them atseparatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au. 

Writer Kerri Sackville and her partner Mike join Cam and Ali in the bathroom today — learn why we'll be inspecting the toothpaste tube once they leave!
In her books, and as a columnist for the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age, Kerri has documented her journey through marriage, divorce and years of dating in mid-life. Her most recent book The Secret Life of You: How a bit of alone time can change your life, relationships, and maybe the world is about embracing solitude. But in learning to be content by herself, Kerri also found love.
There's much to learn from Kerri and Mike's unconventional love story. Listen as they discuss dating in mid-life, the distinction between loneliness and solitude, why being single is better than being with the wrong person, and Kerri's quirky method of cutting bread.
LINKS 
<ul>
<li>Check out Kerri's books at <a href="http://www.kerrisackville.com.au/books">www.kerrisackville.com.au/books</a></li>
<li>See Kerri at the Sydney Writers Festival <a href="https://www.swf.org.au/writers/kerri-sackville">www.swf.org.au/writers/kerri-sackville</a></li>
<li>Follow Kerri Sackville on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/kerrisackville/?hl=en" data-ved="2ahUKEwjO4KaPpeSFAxVZr1YBHV5XBNIQFnoECCsQAQ">@kerrisackville</a> or on Facebook <a href="https://www.facebook.com/Kerri.Sackville/">@kerri.sackville</a></li>
<li>Check out the Mens Table <a href="https://themenstable.org/">themenstable.org</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Cam on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/camerondaddo/">@camerondaddo</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1">Follow Ali on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alidaddo/">@alidaddo</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Follow Nova Podcasts <a href="https://www.instagram.com/novapodcastsofficial/">@novapodcastsofficial</a>. </li>
</ul>
Got a question for Cam &amp; Ali? You can email them at <a href="mailto:separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au">separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au</a>.

How Learning To Be Alone Leads to Better Relationships

Cam and Ali are hosting an iconic Australian show-biz couple in the bathroom today.

Debra Lawrence and Dennis Coard got together 35 years ago, playing on-screen couple Pippa and Michael Ross on Home and Away. And, according to Debra, they still fancy the PANTS of each other. The couple also discuss keeping their relationship (and marriage) a secret on set, how marriage is similar to a corporation, the changing attitudes towards soap opera acting, and why they don't care about 'keeping romance alive'.

LINKS
Follow Debra on Instagram @debralawranceofficial)
Follow Cam on Instagram @camerondaddo
Follow Ali on Instagram @alidaddo
Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial. 

Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them atseparatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au. 

Cam and Ali are hosting an iconic Australian show-biz couple in the bathroom today.
Debra Lawrence and Dennis Coard got together 35 years ago, playing on-screen couple Pippa and Michael Ross on Home and Away. And, according to Debra, they still fancy the PANTS of each other. The couple also discuss keeping their relationship (and marriage) a secret on set, how marriage is similar to a corporation, the changing attitudes towards soap opera acting, and why they don't care about 'keeping romance alive'.
LINKS 
<ul>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Debra on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/debralawranceofficial/?hl=en" data-ved="2ahUKEwj3w5bJqdCFAxW9slYBHSlYBLoQFnoECD8QAQ">@debralawranceofficial)</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Cam on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/camerondaddo/">@camerondaddo</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1">Follow Ali on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alidaddo/">@alidaddo</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Follow Nova Podcasts <a href="https://www.instagram.com/novapodcastsofficial/">@novapodcastsofficial</a>. </li>
</ul>
Got a question for Cam &amp; Ali? You can email them at <a href="mailto:separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au">separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au</a>.

What Tears Most Couples Apart? (Kerrie & Adrian Part 1)

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