CW: This episode contains discussions of suicide and mental ill health. 

Earlier this year, Gemma Stevens husband died by suicide. In the wake of his tragic death, Gemma is determined to help others by shining a light on this issue, and being open and honest about her relationship with her late husband Adam, and how she has been dealing with his death.

If this episode has raised any issues for you, help is available:
Call Lifeline on 13 11 14 or via their websitelifeline.org.au.
Call Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636 or visit beyondblue.org.au/forums.
Call MensLine Australia on 1300 789 978 or visit mensline.org.au.

LINKS
Follow Cam on Instagram @camerondaddo. 
Follow Ali on Instagram @alidaddo. 
Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial. 

Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them atseparatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au. 

CREDITS

Hosts: Cameron Daddo and Alison Brahe-Daddo. 
Guest: Gemma Stevens
Managing Producer: Elle Beattie. 
Producer and Editor: Amy Kimball. 

Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au.

Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we recorded this podcast, the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation. We pay our respect to Elders past and present.

CW: This episode contains discussions of suicide and mental ill health. 
Earlier this year, Gemma Stevens husband died by suicide. In the wake of his tragic death, Gemma is determined to help others by shining a light on this issue, and being open and honest about her relationship with her late husband Adam, and how she has been dealing with his death.
If this episode has raised any issues for you, help is available:
<ul>
<li>Call Lifeline on 13 11 14 or via their website <a href="https://www.lifeline.org.au/">lifeline.org.au</a>.</li>
<li>Call Beyond Blue on 1300 224 636 or visit <a href="https://forums.beyondblue.org.au/">beyondblue.org.au/forums</a>.</li>
<li>Call MensLine Australia on 1300 789 978 or visit <a href="https://mensline.org.au/">mensline.org.au</a>.</li>
</ul>
LINKS 
<ul>
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<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1">Follow Ali on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alidaddo/">@alidaddo</a>. </li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Follow Nova Podcasts <a href="https://www.instagram.com/novapodcastsofficial/">@novapodcastsofficial</a>. </li>
</ul>
Got a question for Cam &amp; Ali? You can email them at <a href="mailto:separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au">separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au</a>. 
CREDITS 
Hosts: Cameron Daddo and Alison Brahe-Daddo.  Guest: Gemma Stevens Managing Producer: Elle Beattie.  Producer and Editor: Amy Kimball. 
Find more great podcasts like this at <a href="http://novapodcasts.com.au/">novapodcasts.com.au</a>. 
Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we recorded this podcast, the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation. We pay our respect to Elders past and present.

Cameron Daddo, alongside his wife Alison, chat about the journey of their 30 year marriage. They chat about the highs, the lows, and all of the lessons learnt in-between.

They're also joined by some of the most interesting couples in Australia to take a look behind the closed doors of their relationships. It's humorous, it's vulnerable, it's inspiring, it's full of relationship wisdom you just might need to hear. 

Ali and Cam are both patrons for Rize Up - supporting the many families affected by domestic and family violence.

Cameron Daddo, alongside his wife Alison, chat about the journey of their 30 year marriage. They chat about the highs, the lows, and all of the lessons learnt in-between.
They're also joined by some of the most interesting couples in Australia to take a look behind the closed doors of their relationships. It's humorous, it's vulnerable, it's inspiring, it's full of relationship wisdom you just might need to hear. 
Ali and Cam are both patrons for Rize Up - supporting the many families affected by domestic and family violence.

Cameron Daddo, alongside his wife Alison, chat about the journey of their 28 year marriage.

Separate Bathrooms

What One Grieving Woman Wishes People Knew About Depression

In this episode of Separate Bathrooms, Cameron and Ali sit down with connections expert Mark Groves. He's the creator of "Create The Love," where he shares advice on building healthier, more meaningful relationships.

Cam and Ali have a notebook brimming with questions for Mark, covering topics like public breakups, overcoming cheating and rebuilding trust, codependency, and setting boundaries in relationships. Packed with valuable advice and heartfelt conversations, this is an episode you won't want to miss!

LINKS
Check out more from Mark at createthelove.com, where you can also porchase his and Kylie's book Liberated Love: Release Codependent Patterns and Create the Love You Desire
Follow @createthelove on Instagram
Follow Cam @camerondaddo on Instagram
Follow Ali @alidaddo on Instagram
Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial. 

Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them atseparatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au. 

In this episode of Separate Bathrooms, Cameron and Ali sit down with connections expert Mark Groves. He's the creator of "Create The Love," where he shares advice on building healthier, more meaningful relationships.
Cam and Ali have a notebook brimming with questions for Mark, covering topics like public breakups, overcoming cheating and rebuilding trust, codependency, and setting boundaries in relationships. Packed with valuable advice and heartfelt conversations, this is an episode you won't want to miss!
LINKS 
<ul>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Check out more from Mark at <a href="https://createthelove.com/">createthelove.com</a>, where you can also porchase his and Kylie's book Liberated Love: Release Codependent Patterns and Create the Love You Desire</li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow <a href="https://www.instagram.com/raisefoundation/?hl=en">@</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/createthelove/?hl=en#">createthelove</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/raisefoundation/?hl=en"></a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/vickicondon/"></a> on Instagram</li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Cam <a href="https://www.instagram.com/camerondaddo/">@camerondaddo</a> on Instagram</li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1">Follow Ali <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alidaddo/">@alidaddo</a> on Instagram</li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Follow Nova Podcasts <a href="https://www.instagram.com/novapodcastsofficial/">@novapodcastsofficial</a>. </li>
</ul>
Got a question for Cam &amp; Ali? You can email them at <a href="mailto:separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au">separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au</a>.

When Compromise Goes Too Far with Mark Groves

Today, Cam and Ali are joined in the bathroom by raise.org founder Vicki Condon AM and chairman Leon Condon. 

The couples talk about the loss that led Vicki to start Raise, the lessons they've taken from running the charity into their partnership, the three levels of communication in a relationship, and Leon's realisation that everyday transactional communication had replaced deep emotional intimacy between them. 

LINKS
Get involved with raise.org.au
Follow @raisefoundation and @vickicondon on Instagram
Follow Cam @camerondaddo on Instagram
Follow Ali @alidaddo on Instagram
Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial. 

Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them atseparatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au. 

Today, Cam and Ali are joined in the bathroom by raise.org founder Vicki Condon AM and chairman Leon Condon. 
The couples talk about the loss that led Vicki to start Raise, the lessons they've taken from running the charity into their partnership, the three levels of communication in a relationship, and Leon's realisation that everyday transactional communication had replaced deep emotional intimacy between them. 
LINKS 
<ul>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Get involved with <a href="https://www.raise.org.au/">raise.org.au</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow <a href="https://www.instagram.com/raisefoundation/?hl=en">@raisefoundation</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/vickicondon/">@vickicondon</a> on Instagram</li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Cam <a href="https://www.instagram.com/camerondaddo/">@camerondaddo</a> on Instagram</li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1">Follow Ali <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alidaddo/">@alidaddo</a> on Instagram</li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Follow Nova Podcasts <a href="https://www.instagram.com/novapodcastsofficial/">@novapodcastsofficial</a>. </li>
</ul>
Got a question for Cam &amp; Ali? You can email them at <a href="mailto:separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au">separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au</a>.

Teenagers Need Adults in Their Lives (That Aren't Their Parents)

In today’s episode of Separate Bathrooms, Cam and Ali are shifting focus from romantic to platonic love. For the first time, it’s a friendship taking centre stage, not a romance!

Join The Age and SMH lifestyle editor and author of Just Friends: On the Joy, Power and Influence of Friendship, Gyan Yankovich, along with her friend, author and returning guest, Gina Rushton, for an insightful exploration of friendship.

Listen as they share their own friendship 'love story,' and discuss the lack of language and milestones for friendships compared to romantic relationships. They also chat friendship breakups and breakdowns, male vs. female friendships, and how life can be richer when romantic relationships aren’t the main focus. 

LINKS
Check out Gyan's book Just Friends: On the Joy, Power and Influence of Friendship
See Gyan at the Sydney Writers Festival www.swf.org.au/program/season-2024/best-friends
Follow Gyan on Instagram @gyanyankovich
Follow Gina @ginarushtonauthor
Follow Cam @camerondaddo
Follow Ali @alidaddo
Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial. 

Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them atseparatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au. 

In today’s episode of Separate Bathrooms, Cam and Ali are shifting focus from romantic to platonic love. For the first time, it’s a friendship taking centre stage, not a romance!
Join The Age and SMH lifestyle editor and author of <a data-ti="overview" data-ved="2ahUKEwityJz6v_WFAxU7hlYBHYB2Cq8Q_coHegQIThAB">Just Friends: On the Joy, Power and Influence of Friendship</a>, Gyan Yankovich, along with her friend, author and returning guest, Gina Rushton, for an insightful exploration of friendship.
Listen as they share their own friendship 'love story,' and discuss the lack of language and milestones for friendships compared to romantic relationships. They also chat friendship breakups and breakdowns, male vs. female friendships, and how life can be richer when romantic relationships aren’t the main focus. 
LINKS 
<ul>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Check out Gyan's book <a href="https://www.booktopia.com.au/just-friends-gyan-yankovich/book/9781761152146.html" data-ti="overview" data-ved="2ahUKEwityJz6v_WFAxU7hlYBHYB2Cq8Q_coHegQIThAB">Just Friends: On the Joy, Power and Influence of Friendship</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">See Gyan at the Sydney Writers Festival <a href="https://www.swf.org.au/program/season-2024/best-friends">www.swf.org.au/program/season-2024/best-friends</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Gyan on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gyanyankovich/?hl=en" data-ved="2ahUKEwjx8tSK0vWFAxW6ilYBHefQAxIQFnoECC0QAQ">@gyanyankovich</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Gina <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ginarushtonauthor/" data-ved="2ahUKEwih68b60fWFAxWgqFYBHTs6DlgQFnoECBoQAQ">@ginarushtonauthor</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="1" data-aria-level="1">Follow Cam <a href="https://www.instagram.com/camerondaddo/">@camerondaddo</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="2" data-aria-level="1">Follow Ali <a href="https://www.instagram.com/alidaddo/">@alidaddo</a></li>
<li data-leveltext="" data-font="Symbol" data-listid="1" data-list-defn-props="{&quot;335552541&quot;:1,&quot;335559684&quot;:-2,&quot;335559685&quot;:720,&quot;335559991&quot;:360,&quot;469769226&quot;:&quot;Symbol&quot;,&quot;469769242&quot;:[8226],&quot;469777803&quot;:&quot;left&quot;,&quot;469777804&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;469777815&quot;:&quot;hybridMultilevel&quot;}" aria-setsize="-1" data-aria-posinset="3" data-aria-level="1">Follow Nova Podcasts <a href="https://www.instagram.com/novapodcastsofficial/">@novapodcastsofficial</a>. </li>
</ul>
Got a question for Cam &amp; Ali? You can email them at <a href="mailto:separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au">separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au</a>.

What One Grieving Woman Wishes People Knew About Depression

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