Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rad and I Heart Radio and two time People's Choice Award winning podcast Hello everybody, We're scrubbing in. Wow, lots has happened since we were here last This last week has felt like a year in the best way. You what it's Celsie, isn't It's so bubbly And I just didn't want to be disrespectful to you, Okay, um So anyways, Yeah, So we had Mark's birthday, which was on Tuesday, and then did you celebrate Saturday? What was the Saturday? We had a party here at the house and it was just absolutely perfect and I couldn't have asked for anything more. It was wonderful. I did I Did I know that you and Tanya were both cancers? That I know this? Yes? No, Mark, I feel like it's a balance between you and I. He's not like an well I don't know about men cancers, but no, he's very cancery. Okay, we're very emotional. Yeah, very Um well, I have to get back to something else about you too. And then but then we had Tanya's birthday which was on Sunday, but we celebrated on Saturday, correct Because Red Star, who is still such a mystery to us. All, I just like calling him Red Star for continuity purposes at this point, you know what I mean, can we just switch it to his name? It's like, I know, weird and like he had shown up on the Morning show on that in that Instagram post on the what am I'm blinking on the morning show on air? And what's the thing you do? That's small show that you are part of, UM, and you all kind of talked about like his name, and He's like, you can call me whatever. So then when we were on the way to his house for the surprise, like do I call him his name Red Star? And so like conflicted. Now I don't know, I kind of like red Star. Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm into Red Star is like the podcast name. Even though sometimes I say his full name on accident. I don't know if it ever gets naturally shift. But you know it's odd though, to hear Ryan call him by his real name and not Socrates. I agree, I agree, So for now we keep him as a Red Star. So Red Star UM basically planned Tanya's whole birthday party. Like so he was texting me my mom was in town, so I was like very worthless and this whole birthday planning because I was like he was asking me questions and I would be the late getting back and he's like, oh, I got it handled, like totally, just like handled the whole thing. So Tanya, I mean, I'll let you tell your half. But when she arrives, she immediately goes to do help him with this, and I was like, no, he literally did everything because I was just like I was shocked at the attention to detail, like the bar menu was. Then he named him like rat on the Rocks, which is like, my my favorite drink was to keel on the rocks, and then he did like a Sonsia's strug or something and the modern Woman, and then the menu was exactly what I like to eat, like beat salad and fish and stuff, and the all of everybody's place setting had little butterflies on them. And one of my girlfriends, Jerome, he like had her make this cake and it had like red starburst on it and butterflies, and the balloons had a little butter but it wasn't like an like an obnoxious amount of butterflies. It was just subtle details, subtle details, and there was like it was like it was just so above and beyond that I thought for sure you played a part. But then I realized he did every single thing, and I was just like I started crying all over again. So, you know, for years I've been Tanya's significant other when it came to birthdays, because you know, as the best friend, and it was, you know, my role, and so I really had to kind of relinquish control because it ended up being that, like my mom was in town, and you know, I would have made it happen if I needed to, but he just like fully handled it. It was impressive. It was impressive and like, in like a two week span, really organized, and like I got ahold of people that I didn't even know. I was like, how did you get ahold of her and like her and them? And he was just like these are people that you've mentioned and I just like DM them on Instagram and like did it all yeah? No? He fully. He was like texting me and be like, do you have son SE's number? And I'm like I don't and I don't even follow, like we don't follow each other on Instagram. He's like, I'll figure it out. And there were people that were like Sharon was like, yeah, he added me on Facebook and then he messaged me and he was just like he really if he needed some gold stars he earned about The crazy thing was, I guess because he basically told me, like at the beginning of the weekend what I needed to pack for the weekend, right, Like, he basically was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna take you Saturday and Saturday night and we're gonna have some activities during the day and then I'm gonna take you to dinner on Saturday night. I was like, okay, And I kind of was like annoying in the beginning and just asking him a million questions trying to figure out like what was going on, and he wasn't answering. I knew one wasn't gonna crack him, so I eventually just kind of said, you know what, I'm just gonna go with it and started going with it. So in hindsight, now all of the things like makes so much sense and like I should have known, but I think I'm just so oblivious to stuff. But the girl who plans, like the girl who does all the decorations for when we have barbecues of her name is Emily. She has She actually used to work at iHeart. She um started her own company during the pandemic because she was furloughed, and so her name is Emily and we've used her a bunch and so Red Star changed her name in his phone to Emilio Parte. So I saw Sam texting and Emilio but he was I was like, who's Amelia And he was like, that's a client and I was like, I didn't even think anything of it. But I was like a smart move for him, a change, because if I saw Emily, the name pop up on his like, you're what are you planning? And you're you know what I mean, backyard. So anyways, uh so he basically just needed to get me out of his house the whole day Saturday, and so he was gonna take me to this butterfly farm that's an Encinitas, which is like a good hour and a half away from where we are. He didn't calculate in the traffic in l A because once when he looked Saturday morning, it said three hours and he was like, oh my god, like I'm not doing that. So he's like, it's okay, I have a plan B, which is like this Butterfly pavilion in downtown Los Angeles. So we go to like our uh coffee shop that's that we go to like every morning when we're together. And he had gone the day before to given like a candle to put in like a pastry to like sing to me when we got there. Um, but the candle didn't light and so like that was like the or spail and then like the and so new is the traffic. The butterfly farm was like another fail. And then we show up to downtown to get to this Butterfly pavilion and it's sold out. It's like completely sold out. So it's all just like all these things just keep failing. And I felt so bad because it was really thoughtful and just like beautiful, and we had a really nice lunch and I was like kind of drunk, and I was just like in a good mood, so I didn't even cares the thought that counted, you know, like nothing was really going his way. So it's like, we have to get ready at your place because dinner is on your side of town. Think nothing of it really, so come here. We get ready and then he's like, shoot, I forgot your I really want to give your gift before dinner, and I forgot it in like our in your intentions burning or you're like you're burning thing, you're burnington And I was like, oh, we can do the burning when we get back from dinner. I was like, I really don't want to stop it. I was so annoying, Like at this point, I was getting annoyed. And he's like, it's just your gift was in there and I really want to give it to you before dinner. And I was like fine. So I'm like, just I've been right at this point. So we get in the car and he and again he was asking me questions about like his outfit. He was like, but do you really like this, Like is this what you want me to be in for your birthday? I was like I don't care. Whatever makes you feel like it's all like adding up right. So then we go to his house and we just run out. I was thinking running out into the house to get the gift. He's like, leave your person, leave everything, and there was being for us. Let's just go grab it. I walk in the house and like everybody's there. There's not a caudancy, a single car and site like he everybody popped out. I started like I freak out. I'm like so happy, like my heart is just like exploding. And then I walked into the backyard and I see all the like detailed things, and I'm just like a mess. Like I just literally was crying. I had to make up everywhere. Everybody was like tiny of like go to the bathroom, and I was like I can't because I just kept crying. And like I've been. I've been crying the whole day, even like him taking me to the butterfly pavilion and like all of these little things. And when he surprised me on the morning show, I was like started bawling and it's this news, like why are you crying? You see him every day, and I'm like it's not him like showing up with balloons, it's this. It's it's like for so many years. Because I really sat with myself, remember, I wanted to like examine, like why I'm being so Like why am I so much? So I know I'm a cancer and we're emotional and we cry a lot, but like I've been really particularly emotional the last week, especially in regards to him. And I feel like for so many years throughout my twenties. I was going to like all these bachelorette parties and weddings and like seeing it happen for all my friends. And I would get on the plane and I would come home by myself, and I would like cry and I would pray, and I would just like ask for like the meaning of like why you know, why it hasn't happened for me? Is this gonna happen? I always was hopeful for it, but it's like when it's actually happening, and you get this like love that you've always wanted in return, and it's like starting to feel more normal, and like I feel like we're both in this really good groove of our relationship and in such a good phase. It's like almost like um, you don't feel like you just or of it or like it's hard to accept it when it's happening. And so it's like I just get really overwhelmed with emotion and I started like crying. Well, I mean what he did for you, Like I know a lot of people who have been in relationships for a long time and their significant others never gone to that extreme to plan something like that, Like that was just very like you said, he thought through every detail. He gives this like beautiful speech when he's when we're about to eat this beautiful toast, and he said something along the lines of like this is all the love that you give to everyone giving like being given back to you, something along those lines, and it was just like so true and beautiful and being in that space with all the people that like mean the most to you with such a reflection of the person you are and everyone I was reading your Instagram comments on your post, every single one was basically the same sentiment of like you deserve this, like you have, you have waited for this, and everything that's um is yours because you deserve it. And I think you talked about so often the imposter syndrome and even in that caption how it isn't just like work related. That's why I feel like I feel like I have imposter syndrome in my relationship. Like I don't deserve it to be like this good right now? You know what I I mean? Like it just don't. It's like and he he was tanking, he was saying, He's like, you don't have to thank me for this. He's like, this is like you've done this for me, for your friends tenfold and you know what I mean like that, it's just it's it's really hard for me. But it was just like and even like the detail like he got I have some friends that like enjoy weed, so he went and bought this, and yeah, he thought these like made sure he went and got these like weed drinks to have their for that. Like he was like so specific about the people and my friends and really took a lot of time and energy and it was just like I couldn't even just like I can't. Yeah, it was really special. Yeah it was fun. It was like a really really fun night. And and we finally played ping pong a red Star night and he whooped me, but okay, I didn't put my butt. It was eight one three games and then it was twenty like we went to overtime was one, which that one really hurt. But he's really good, I know. Honestly, I'm so happy to have you to play with him, because it's so annoying for me to play with him because he's just so good and I'm horrible. That's not even fun. He's really good, like he was I I honestly kind of think he went a little bit easy on me. To be honest, I was thinking because he was like, well, I think the one that got really close he wasn't because he realized like, oh I could take it, And you know, like that was like our fourth game playing. He had already beat me three times, but if I had won that fourth one, that's the only one that would matter to me. But like you know, when like all your friends are kind of mingling and playing, like we were playing, were playing prosecco pong and they're playing ping pong and everybody was kind of mingling. And when you see all your friends aren't really friends like coming together, it just does something to your heart. I was on cloud and like I literally was like drinking and party. Like I was just going from zoom to the person to person to person and just like so drunk. I was so hungover it, but like it was the best night, Like I didn't want to end everybody when they were like leaving, I was like I kept hearing Tanya. I would just hear her, like in the background of like another conversation I was having been like yeah, I'll have another rat on the rocks, and I was like, this girl is drinking straight to Kiel on the Rocks and that's probably the fifth time I've heard her as from that. It's a good time. It was a good time. So it was just really amazing, Like I'll never forget it. Yeah, Yeah, that's great, that's what it's all about. Yeah. But then I'm like I look back and I'm like, I should have known all these. He was really like his phone is always just out. Our phones are always out whenever we're together. He was very handy with his phone, like in terms of just like not showing it to me. I was so scared to text him anything like she probably changed your name in his phone, like Amelia. Parte was just so funny. Part is a little close. I'd be a little nervous about part there you only see their first name when they're texting. Yeah, he would he would call me and be like, hey, so this is a plan. I just stepped away from Tony for a second, and I'd be like, oh my gosh, I'm so I'm like not even gonna text you. I barely could text Tanya because I was so scared. That's the other thing we had. We did a surprise party for one of my other best friends the night before, so Friday night We did a surprise party where like I went, you know, balls the walls and then so I was just like very thrown off, and everybody there was a really good liar, Like everybody lied, and I was just like, what the heck? Yeah, just really good liars. Yeah. It was so fun, great weekend. The attention to detail was very truly like another level because really the parking situation there wasn't anybody there that he let everybody in through the side, made sure everybody was in by six thirty, closed the gate before we got there, and I was like, wow, this is just it was all of us like wa for her to arrive, and we were we got ready like five minutes too soon. What you know, five minutes when you're waiting to surprise someone feels like an hour and we're all like we see a car pass everyone and it would be like silent and then we'd start talking again. And then when she pulled up, it was just like everyone and it was quiet, and then she walked in and she like it was this reaction and then like an immediate crumble like I didn't have to do. It's like who do you hug first? Like what do you do? Like I was like, I don't know what to do with my hands. Everyone was like, because the video I posted, I couldn't hear it, but I didn't realize you were yelling, like what the Oh yeah, yeah, I Everyone in the podcast or in the scrubbing in Facebook group was like, when you hear telling your cuss or say the F bomb. I was like, well, she always does, I guess, but you don't hear, right, because, like I thought, Brad was in New York, so when I saw him, I was like, what the Yeah, it was so good. It was really good. Um, so yeah, that's a good time. I'm just like really in love and just like crying every other day about it. And you have, both of you and Red Star have really worked on this relationship and put effort in like time and energy into it to get to this point. So I hope that you feel like very much deserving and very much proud because you know, I mean, there were challenges that were part of this relationship and y'all chose to choose your love over it. I think what we realize is like when we met, he wasn't in the place to meet the person that he wanted to like be with. Ultimately, you know, but he knew what we had, our relationship in our connection was so special, so he was kind of fighting all fighting through all of those things. Um, but now he's in he's in a different place and he is ready for all of that. And so it's just like it definitely feels like a new phase of our relationship. Like two point oh one, raw when he was giving you, when he was giving the toast, did you think he was going to propose? Everyone was like, Tanya looks like she thinks he's going to propose. I'm like, surely not, surely not. But it was a really beautiful speech. Yeah. So, well, you know that Mark is the one who reached out to him to be on the morning show. I know, and I'm so glad you did. Like I was surprised he said yes, but like that again, it's a big step. Well, I noticed that your birthday was coming up, and then I saw it was gonna be a weekend. But we always try to surprise you with somebody on your birthday. We've got traveled to Booth and Haley and your sister and your parents and all kinds of different people, and and it just occurred to me that well, I wonder if he would do it, because we've kind of been talking about the fact that it's maybe a possibility. So I texted him and I said, I think this would be cool. It's totally up to you whatever you want to do, whenever you're comfortable with and he was totally down. So we planned the whole thing and that was cool because I had to text him when we started the show, you know, or like, you know, when we he had to know like, Okay, she got her I told him before when he was outside the door, I texted him, Okay, she's got her ear buds in so he can come in the front door just in case you wouldn't hear him because you got your buds and that sort of thing when he can't. Yeah, So he and I were texting throughout the show and he's like, okay, I'm downstairs and like, okay, we're almost fair. I think we can right outside the door. Okay, what do you have balloons? But I'm gonna leave them outside because they're a loud Like no, no no, no, no no, leave them outside. That's Keute bringing the blood. Okay, fine, So yeah, I was shocked, like again, so it's like that like really started my weekend off, just like in tears, because I think that was a really just a big moment, big stuff, you know, something he's uncomfortable with, but he's doing because you know, because of me. You know, it's like a compromise. I think he enjoyed it. He texted me afterwards he seemed really happy with how it went. I think so too, And I think he also it also was like I think sometimes this world can be really scary for people that aren't in it and have never really had any experience. It's very um bigger than it is. Does that make sense? Like it seems a lot scarier and a lot of the unknown. But I think once like he was here and he had a converse station and like realized, oh, this is not is big deal. I think if you see, like if you happen to come across the post where you see a lot of like negativity and stuff like that, then you get in your head like the thought of what it can be. Like I know I've had that, you know, I have that all the time when I post stuff where it's like could I get could this be one of those things that's like a negative reaction. If y'all are on TikTok you would know like how ruthless people can be, but you don't get your information from TikTok. So um, but yeah, I thought it was just he seemed very comfortable. He didn't seem like he was just like down to do it for you, which was cool. Yeah, um, Mark, I had no idea your daughter could sing like that. Oh wow, yeah, thanks. Yeah, and that video was the cutest thing a video he posted, Well, I'll let you tell the story, Mark. Well, yeah, and it's on the scrubbing and Facebook group and a lot of you have seen it in you haven't, you can check it out on there. But it was my wife's idea. In fact, so my my daughter knows this theater camp every summer and this year they're doing a Little Mermaid and my wife as soon as they announced that they were doing Little Mermaid, my wife thought, what if she gets arial, if she does get to play Ariel, then we can do a video where we go back and forth between her singing part of that world now and her singing part of that world when she was three years old. She do you have that video? I said, yeah, that video is right here. Okay, so we watched that video like, yeah, that would be really great, but she's gotta get cast as Arial. There's like all kinds of things that need to happen. But sure enough, she got cast as Ariel. And then as soon as she did her show, I put those together and I've watched it every day since and it's uh, it's I will never stop. I don't think. So. Yeah, it's like her on stage and she has a beautiful voice. It's very nice. She's fifteen. Yeah, she's she's has a beautiful voice. But the next which is like switches to an old video of her when she was like three, singing and he edited together. Yeah, it was really Yeah, it turned out exactly. It really turned out actually better than I expected it too, And I didn't really notice that at the end she kind of winks at the camera. That was kind of I had forgotten that far. So that was a perfect ending for it. Yeah, it really turned out. Actually, did she get her voice from you? I always say this, and everyone in the family jokes about that and laughs at me, but I say, yes, I was in every choir offered at my high school. I just don't sing regularly, I don't sing publicly, but yes, multiple times in the shower in my car. It's a concert every single day. But I don't know that anyone would be like, well, I don't know. I think it's from me, but yeah, it was really good. Um yeah, I'm trying to think what else. I mean, it felt this weekend. This week felt like a blur blur. I'm sure it did for you, but yeah, I was like, oh, yeah, my mom wasn't Yeah, my mom was in town, which was so much fun and helped me with my house and just like it was really a much needed trip. Like when she left, I was devastated because that was her first time being out here and like over four years, I think, because like normally we always go back to the South to visit family, and um, finally last time I was there and um, may I just I was like, will you please come out and just visit like my house and help me with it because she has a real eye for like design and stuff like that. And so she came out and it was just fun to kind of show her my life because she hears about it, but she like her being a part of it was really fun. You forget how like no matter what age you are, how like how much you need your mom like I. She I woke up every morning because I don't really drink coffee unless I get it like ice or something. But she makes her coffee every morning. So I bought a coffee maker for her, and I woke up every morning to like her rearranging furniture, drinking her coffee. So it was cute. I had a lot of fun. That is fun. Oh, I forgot to mention that Becca, like, uh, I posted the video of the post its that you made in my house. Uh, and everybody's like Becca. That was such a Tanya move of Becca, like you know what it really is? Like she really wanted to speak to my love language. So yesterday we came. Last night, we came and brought a red Star and I came to bring all the flowers back to my apartment so that I didn't have to do it Monday morning when I came back to do the radio show. And so we were bringing the flowers in and I noticed, Uh, these like post it's on the thing I like my kitchen. It's like a who's been in my house? Like this is super weird, I said, I after something like after you gave Mark your homework assignment on the podcast or whatever. I thought about the thirty four reasons why I love you, and so she wrote on these like post it and posted them like all up, been down, like my my banister, my penis banister staircase, and then like it led up to my studio with like all these balloons like a son, and there was thirty four reasons why she loves me, and then like I think around reason twenty it said I wish you were turning fifteen. My hand hurts, well, I haven't written. I realized I haven't written anything in a long time. And it was like and they weren't posted, so I had to get tape because they weren't actually sticky, so I had to get taped. Yeah, I put tape on all of them. But my hand, my handwriting so ugly, and it was like getting worse by the note, and I was like, I have to finish, Like I'm halfway there. I have a lot of things to say. I just my hand is cramping up. But um, it's very cute because it's very not a youth thing. Yeah, no it's not. And I had my Alley wrote me and goes it can't wait for my befre She was like Wow. She sent me your story and goes, wow, this is impressive, and I go, I was like, yeah, you know that's it's Tanya's birthday and she was like, can't wait for mine? And I was like, this is specific to Tanya, right. It was like you literally spoke my love language, like you like that isn't such a that's a really great friend thing. It was very much not your thing. Yeah, well, you know, I figured I didn't I I my gift isn't here yet, so I wanted to do something that was for you. I ordered her a gift, but it told me it's shipped today. Don't need gifts, like I don't need gifts or not because you need. I know. It's very true that every everythingthing. Do you know what happened though, is because I was It was like I was shopping and like when when my mom was here, we were like shopping and stuff, and I just like I couldn't think of anything that was like, oh, Tanya would need this or want this, And I was gonna get her jewelry, but like everyone got her jewelry. ACT wouldn't have even had a space to wear jewelry back. And so I found something else that I think will be a hit. It's a puppy notice. Si. Although you have to say shout out to Danielle Jonas, I still don't understand. I still don't know how she got Red Stars address. But I got these beautiful flowers from Danielle Jonas to Red I know he goes. They came Friday. I had to hide them from you, like like that is. I was asking everybody's like, how did she get this address? I know that collection was just truly impeccable, insane, like beautiful, a lot of I got a lot of butterflies. Yeah, the butterfly was definitely naturally a theme for Like, I found myself looking for anything butterfly and I'm like, what significant butterflies? That's the only thing that's significant. Um. Well, we have a very fine guest today and someone who really is the definition of a modern woman. Well, Becca's right, I'm actually really excited to talk to. Her name is Rachel Rodgers, and she is the epitome of a modern woman. She has this book that's called We Should All Be Millionaires, And I don't know a ton of her story of kind of how she got I mean, obviously she's insanely successful, and I bet it's like a very long story of how she got to where she is now from like birth. But I'm hoping she can give us some like really interesting and unique tidbits because you know, only ten percent of the world's millionaires are women. It's crazy the millionaires out there are men. Well yeah, but think about like how far we've come as women, but we still have so so much further to go. But and yet we're not millionaires. No, but she basically wrote this book to teach kind of empower women, like, hey, just just because these stats look the way they do, doesn't mean that you don't have all the tools to become successful, and which I think is truly a modern, a modern woman message. So we are going to take a break and then we will be right back up with Rachel Rogers. All Right, you guys, we are back, and we have, as I said before, a very special guest scrubbing in today. Please welcome Rachel Rogers. I just want to clap with y'all, and I clap for yourself. I kind of want to set you up because I do think our scrubbers also say we don't set up our guests very well. Okay, So I want to give some context. So you, I guess you're like a multi hyphen in you'll are a lot of things. But you did you wrote a book that's called We Should All Be Millionaires, which is what we want to really dive into. Um. Your intellectual property attorney, your business coach, you're a mother. What else is on your UM? I own a ranch, Um, somebody's wife, and I'm not an I don't practice IP law anymore, but I guess I still have those skills your journey, Yes, exactly so. And the main thing, well, I have kids and then i'm the CEO of Hello seven and those those two things take up most of my time. So I don't even know where to begin. Like so, I mean, you're just listed a bunch of things that are very impressive. Like where did you kind of take the turn of your attorney and you wanted to switch gears? Yeah? Well, um, I wanted to become a lawyer since I was eight years old because I used to watch my mom would watch courtroom dramas and I'd be like, yes, I want to be that person advocating for the little person, you know, and coming in and helping them. Uh. So I went to law school, which I found to be a traumatizing experience. Honestly, I was always a good student, but it was so hard. Like three quarters the way through criminal lot in my first semester, I still didn't know what like men's raea was. There was like so much Latin that I was like, what is happening? So it was a real challenge, um, But then I overcome it. I wound up graduating with good grades, but I really didn't like the vibe and the culture of the legal industry. But I just started to become a solo lawyer because I didn't really want to take a job doing anything else. So you're like your own your own firm essentially exactly. So I clerked for a judge for a year and then went out on my own. And my mother was horrified. She was like, what happened to the six figure job I thought you were getting. Isn't that what happens next? Not this whole solo, scrappy solo lawyer thing. Can we not do that? Like? No, mom? Sorry? So anyway, So I did that for seven years and I was pretty successful at it. Built it too, almost just shive seven figures and then you know, a lot of my clients were women entrepreneurs running businesses, and they'd be like, how are you making so much more money than us? Like what are you doing? So I started telling them for free, and then someone told me I should probably charge for that advice. Then I switched and started charging for the business strategy advice instead of the legal And it was a transition, like it probably took two years to like winding down my law practice and wind up you know, my UM company, Hello seven. But it was just like people asked me for it, and I saw a real need. I think, honestly, the thing that got me the most excited about it was that all of the stats showed that, like, you know, so many women entrepreneurs today, it's like sev still of women entrepreneurs never make more than fifty dollars in total revenues. So out of that you gotta pay yourself, you gotta pay team, you gotta pay taxes, business expenses. It's not enough. And I was like, yeah, we should all be millionaires instead. I like that play better. Wait, so because I read the staff that says only ten of the millionaires are women. M hmmm, are you a millire? I am? I am badass. Yeah, Well, here's what we really need, we really need to know. It's like, what are some obviously, you know, the book really goes into the details of but I think it's like I think a lot. I'll just speak for myself. I don't want to give a general like you know, women whatever. But for me, it's like the drive is there, the ambition is there, the creativity, the passion is there. But I don't know with finances and like strategy and business, I have no idea what I'm doing. Yeah, and so here's what I would challenge. I would challenge you that that's not true. I think you do know what you're doing, and I think you probably should just be charging more for it, you know. And I think we society wants us to believe that we are not good with money, as women in particular, and especially if you're a woman of color, even more so. Um, that's the story that we get. There are media messages that are sent to women every day. Don't buy Latte's cut coupon, stop shopping so much. Even the movies, right, like you know, like Carrie from Sex to the City, right, like she's this badass woman but couldn't afford to buy her apartment when it went up for sale, right, and like, oh she has a shoe purchasing problem. Right, Like that's the message that's always given to us. But men get messages of like there's always an image of a lion and it's like risks invest, go for it, right, And the reality is is risk is required to build wealth, especially if you didn't grow up with it, like I didn't, Um, so you know I didn't. Just to be clear, Sorry, I don't know if that's sounded like. So you know, we are getting these messages all day long that we're not good with money, we don't know what we're doing with money, and we believe them, right when the reality is, learning how to manage money and learning how to make money is just a skill that can be acquired, right, just like men acquire it, women can acquire it too. We're not inherently bad with money. In fact, stats show that we are better investors, that we we build more profitable companies when we are leading versus men running companies of a similar size. Right, So like we actually, according to statistics, are better at managing businesses and money and investing. But the messages sent to us all the time and also the laws, right, Like our grandmothers couldn't get a credit card because it was legal, they had to have a male cosigner. That's not that long ago, right, So like it's relatively new for women to control their own money. Um, and so we have to remember that, like that society is actually set up for us as women to not win financially, and so this book is really about how do we do it anyway? How do we make sure we win? And part of it is like the changing the story. It starts with that. The first chapter of the book is called million Dollars Story because it's about we have to change the story in our heads that we're not good with money or we don't know what we're doing with money. Nonsense, we do know what we're doing. We're actually really smart and we're strategic and we're capable, and we create all these amazing brands all the like I mean, look what you all have done with this podcast, right, like very successful women, right, So like we just need to charge accordingly, right and raise our prices. That's a big part of it too. So I do find like the there's like this aside from the media message and like what we're told because even Tanya, before you came on to it, is like, oh my gosh, only ten of of millionaires or women. And I was like, well, think about I mean, we've come so far, but like we still have so much further to go of like feeling the the empowerment to demand what we deserve. And I was gonna say, like, starting out, do you find that there's because you I feel like talking about money and finances and how much you make is kind of like still a taboo conversation like some you know, people are scared ask and then people are kind of feel like, well is that anyone else's business? But I think having someone like you who has made it happen and to be able to offer that advice is like a very powerful tool. Yeah, representation, right, we need to see examples and be like, oh this is available to me, right, Like we need to see that visibly. And we're shamed. We're like, we're we're shamed if we have two little money, and then we're shamed if we have too much, right, and we're not supposed to talk about Trust me, I get hate mail all the time from people who are like, stop talking about how rich you are and I'm like, no, I will not. You know why, because the world needs to know that this is possible. Like I grew up my parents were in food stamps, and so if I could do it right, it's available to so many of us. And it's not even rocket science. It's just that we have to believe it's possible. And then we have to focus on our value and you know, and charge accordingly, right, because I think so much we'd think like, oh, well, I couldn't possibly charge that, or I'm not worth that, or I can't ask for that raise, and it's like, yes, you can, yes, and absolutely can. Trust me, some mediocre white guy who does who's not as anywhere near as accomplished as you is asking for that raise and getting it, And so we need to start demanding it for ourselves. And like I think we have to be really clear on what our value is. We have to be really clear on what we bring to the table, what our skills are, and then and really learn how to sell ourselves, like whether we're entrepreneurs or not, we need to be entrepreneurial and how we approach our careers um and ask for the money and really be able to make an argument in a case as to why we are worth it, right, like, of course you're not just asking money for money because you can you can back it up, right, but we may we can't. We have impostor syndrome because of the laws that were in place, because of the media messages that we're getting, Like there's a it's by design, right, because of sexism. That's why we have imposter syndrome. And so you know, we have to just start recognizing our value um and asking for the sale and and really turning towards our money. Like half of it is just pay attention to your money, and pay attention to how much you're being charged, and have conversations with people, well how much are you charging for speaking gigs and how much are you charging for these kinds of appearances. As soon as we start talking each other and stearing that information, guess what, everybody starts making more money because it gets out in the open. You know, you know it's so true because so I had I have a friend, we have a friend who also does another female lad podcast, and will never forget the day that she came to me she said, I want to give you numbers of what we are making on this podcast because I want to be transparent and so that you know, so that you can you know, you and Becca can really have like a a better gauge of you know, what you guys are making. I was like, that is so freaking cool because we're basically the same thing. We're like, you know, in air quotes competition. But she's giving me her information so that I can stand up for myself and my value and it's something that I think is So it's been a battle for me because I struggle with imposter syndrome too, and I'm very grateful because I love what I do and so I always do things for free. Like I'm just like, oh, yeah, they want to do an extra phone call for this event that I'm doing. Sure, And I remember, I remember our boss Amy was like, no, I'm gonna get you paid for that call, like you don't do things for free, and I was like that's awesome, you know what I mean, Like that's another woman, like helping another woman because I just like, yeah, it's fine, it's gonna be an hour, like I don't care, and she's like no, like you get paid for your time. And I'm starting to kind of it's been a slow process. But as I do it, it's starting, I'm starting to feel a lot like more empowered by it. So my question for you is, if let's say somebody's on a job that's salary, so they you know, they clock in at nine, they clock out at five, and this is their salary for the year, how how do they become a millionaire? They're like setting their salary. Is it important? Do you think that everybody should have some sort of business on their own, like on the side. Yeah, Well, there's a couple of ways to do it. One I just want to say, I love that. And one of the things that you just pointed out about, like the so called competing podcast that's giving you their numbers, is that putting us in competition with one each with each other for men's attention is how we are We are kept small. It's how we're kept out of the financial conversation, right, and how our value winds up going down because we're wasting our time worrying about this fictitious competition instead of getting this money and joining forces. You know. So I think that's so important. And I think what you just said to about that hour that you give away, I bet you every woman and that's one of the things that I asked women to do is actually a time study in those books, and like we walk them through, like do a time study, actually account for your time, and when you do it, you're gonna find that you are leaving money on the table. There are opportunities where you could be asking for money or where you're just giving away your time that that time could be going towards money making opportunities. Right, So, like we have to just really look at our time and see where are we leaving money on the table, because all of us do it. I'm sure I still have places today where I'm leaving money on the table, you know. Um, So I just want to address those two things. But to answer your question, I think the way that someone in a nine to five job can make more, but there's a couple of ways. One they could ask for a raise, right, and they need to understand like how does this business work? And how do I add value to this business? How do I reduce the stress that my boss might have? How does me doing what I do and bringing what I bring to the table. And it doesn't matter if you're a waitress and administrative assistant or some fancier, higher level job title, whatever, it doesn't matter. It's how am I relief relieving stress for my boss and making the case for like why that should be making more money, right, because that's what matters. You have to tap into what matters to the person who's making the decision and then make a case for why you should make more really understand how you help this company be more profitable, you know. So that's one way that you could do it. Side hustles is a huge piece for women entrepreneurs especially, So many women entrepreneurs are starting starting side hustles. Like my sister has a corporate job, but she sells real estate on the side. Now she's also become a real estate investor, and now she's like a landlord and has a couple of rental properties, right, and so she's got these other sources of income. So I think having a side hustle is a great idea as well, where you could just charge for consulting whatever you do in your day job. You could be like, hey, I advise you on how to do that for five an hour, right for example. Um, so that's another way or you could become an entrepreneur as well, become an investor, that's an option. So there's a lot of different ways, but I think it starts with really understanding your value and like how could I max out what I want to make? And what I actually encourage women to do is just create this million dollar or vision, which is just sit down and say, what are the things that I want that would make a difference in my life, whether it's like for me, it was like I wanted to pay for my mom's rent was a big deal for me. I wanted to send my kids to you know, extracurricular activities without stress. You know. I wanted a nicer house for them, to have a backyard or whatever, and to send them to like really good schools. So like I did the math on what is that lifestyle cost and figured that I needed to make at the time of making like a hundred thousand a year, and I wanted to make three hundred thousand. And so then I started, once I had that number in my head of like, okay, two hundred thousand dollars more a year, it's like approximately twenty k a month. What could I do to generate another twenty k a month? And I just started brainstorming, and I came with the ideas, you know, and then I started trying some of those ideas, and over time, within three years, no less than I think it was two years, I was making three hundred thousand UM. So it's just like we just have to look at our money, get focused on and remember what it's buying us, whether that's charitable things, political contributions, right our lifestyle as well. So if we do the math on it and really get clear what is that number, and then start brains Like if you needed to come up with an extra ten k in the next ten days, I'm sure you could write like you'd come up with like okay, I could try this, or I could reach out to that person that I've worked with before and pitch them on whatever. Right, Like, if we really needed to make some money, we could. So it's just like starting to make that our regular thinking instead of conserving it for emergency. It's proactive, proactive versus reactive. Yes, exactly. I love what you said about presenting a case of what you add to the company, because this is like a couple of years ago. But L M. Pompeo from Grey's Anatomy, she kind of I think there was this whole article about how she went and asked for a raise and like she got it, and she was like, and they the way they wrote the article was that basically kind of people were like, well, I'm gonna go and ask for a raise, and then she I heard her own podcast and she was like, that was not my intention for sharing that information. I knew what the I was bringing in. I knew what my value was on the show, and so I knew going in that I could back up my request with proof that I was important enough to be paid this amount. And I think a lot of people misconstrued what that they could just go in and ask for a raise without being able to say, like, this is what I had to the company. So I love that you said that, because I love that you took your attorney skills and you make cases more like you kind of have adjusted. It's the same thought process, but to a point of being, you know, an entrepreneur and how you maximize those skills. Absolutely, there's an you know I talked about in the book, a negotiation where I was on the side of the person giving the raise. One of my women employees came to me, or actually I was recruiting someone and the initial salary I offered her, she doubled it. I wounded up paying her twice as much as I was planning on paying her, which I had no intentions that was convinced that I could not afford. But she made such a case of how she is gonna make my life easier what she was going to take off my plate, and I could do the math in my head and be like, Okay, if she does all of that, then I could go out and make more money and easily justify this salary and just like getting those things off my plate worth every penny, you know. Um, I just gave a raise last week because I was like, oh my god, I'm so delighted to like take these things off my to do list and give it to this person. So I'm happy to pay them more for that additional responsibility, you know. So I walk through exactly how to do it, and I think we just need to get comfortable in general asking for more, right, like just asking for more in general, you know, like in whatever context we can you know, um, and seeing if we can get it, and really just taking that posture, because I think when women do that, we're shamed for it and I'm like, you can take your shame and and you put it exactly because I don't care. I'm and here's the thing that I really want women to understand is, like everyone benefits when we make more money. The entire world benefits when women make more money. And there are statistics, there's all kinds of research that proves that women contribute to society. Women take care of children, they start charitable ventures. We give away to charity at like three times the rate of men. We give away so much more of our our money than men do who are making the same amounts as us. Right, So, like society actually benefits when women benefit. Right, when women are paid equally, When women are paid more, all of society benefits. Our families benefit. And you know we don't. We don't just spend the money on shoes and makeup. But you know what, yes, shoes in makeup, because I like shoes in makeup, and there's nothing wrong with that, right, we should. We should spend our money on our pleasure, and we can also contribute in a greater way to society. So I think sometimes we think, oh, it's selfish or I can't do that, Yes you can, And you know what, you better because that we need better representation in politics. Right. We need to change this world, and the way we're gonna do it is not with a bunch of men who are making decisions for us. Is we have to get in those seats. We have to have money to write checks to the politicians who want to step in for those roles. Right. So that's what's going to change the world as us being like, yo, I'm going to write a check to solve that problem. Right, So empowering is so true. I remember when I was I just started using menstrul cups and I was like doing a lot of research on them because I was like, have I never heard of these? I'm thirty four, thirty three years old and I've never heard of the menstrul cup. And I've had my period since i was fifteen, So I was like looking into it, and I was reading a lot of articles about the woman in particular who started this one specific one, and she was saying how she kept going to like pitch this menstrul cup. It was all men, and they were just like, why do you need you? Guys have pads and tampons. She was just like it took a lot of convincing in a lot, you know what I mean, because you're just pitching it to men who just they just get it, but they don't like it's just like they they don't have you know what I mean, they don't have periods, so it's like they don't get it. And so it is. It's like the more that we are in these spaces and having these conversation asians and opening these doors, the better for all of us exactly because then you changed my life man, exactly. And imagine how many other genius ideas like that are there to benefit women, to to benefit queer people, to to benefit black people, people of color, like all of these marginalized people by society, Like they all have ideas for apps and ways that we can improve our lives that are not being funded. But if we're the ones sitting at the table, we get it and we will write that check. I actually just last week invested in my first like entrepreneur, like invested in another other business for the first time. Um, and of course it's a woman owned business and it's a tech company, and I'm so excited that I could like write a check and invest in her idea, you know, and give advice as well. So it's like, when we make money, we can take on those roles and contribute in greater ways. I have friends like Rachel Carbo who are like creating amazing nonprofit organizations that are serving thousands of women, and I'm like, this is we have so much ability to make change that we don't have to wait for like male lawmakers to give us. We can just decide today that we care and we're gonna do something about it. Listen, you are a Tania. Basically when we started this podcast, her whole thing was being a modern woman and being someone who doesn't listen to basically what society says and uses your strength and you we always say like when people are the definition of a modern woman. When I was like, got your book and just reading your bio, I was like, this is basically what we try to represent on the podcast. So I just I'm like blown away. I can't wait to read your book because I think even in in any any industry, but I think asking for what you think you deserve or what you deserve is such an intimidating process. You worry about like losing your job or someone being like I mean even hearing the word no. Like a lot of people are like, what's the worst you can do is you can hear no. Well, that's kind of discouraging sometimes. So I think what you're doing and giving women the power to create for themselves what men have been able to create for themselves so easily, is like such an amazing gift you've you've given to people, Well, thank you. And and really I think what I'm doing is just pointing out the power we already have. Right, we have the power. We don't need to wait for somebody to give it to us. And that's what the rallying cry of this book is and why I get so fired up talking about it, because I'm like, come on, people, we could do that. Do you do you live in l A. No, I live in um Greensboro, North Carolina on a ranch. I was gonna say, dream like, do you need more friends? Or I'm actually going to be in l A at the end of the month. I'm hosting a retreat there, so I will be there for a couple of days. So yeah, I'm happy to get drinks or something that'd be fun. Yeah, Because No, honestly, like I feel very like invigorated, invigorated by you were saying, I feel very bad. I feel very invigorated by you because I think also sometimes again, like Bea says, let you hear a lot of the nose, and you can kind of get into a little bit of a slump of things. And I feel like I kind of went into a little slump of things, and I'm emerging from my cocoon and I'm fired back up. I also just like a birthday, so like it's a new year of living, and I have this kind of like fire back in me, and like now talking to you, like the fires like coming out of me, and I just like I don't know, I love. And what you're pointing out is how important community is for us. Like women, we need to network, we need to talk to each other, we need to connect with each other. I think we're often taught like we need a white male ally to open doors for us, and I've had that happen, and I've also had white men slam doors in my faces, right, So it's it's it's it's I don't think that that's the way. I think that there are huge, amazing networks of powerful women and that we need to share our resources and create opportunities for each other, speak each other's names, and rooms full of opportunity, right, Like we actually can do it amongst ourselves. Um So I think we just need to network more and talk to each other. So there's this girl that I was actually talking about earlier. Her name is Emily. She was she worked for a company and then she got for aload when the pandemic hit, and she took it as an opportunity to start her own business. Becau's like I always wanted to event planned, so she started, you know, doing it, and she's doing fairly well, right, But she needed a full time job because she wanted health and benefits and all that stuff. She ended up finding a full time job, which is like as an executive assistant. And then on the side she still does this, has this company, and I share her name all the time to all my friends because I'm like, she hustles so like I've never seen anybody hustle like that. Like it's so it's so cool to see because she's so passionate about it. She want that that's what she wants in the long term. But she's like, I know, right now, I have to keep a balance because this is my main and I don't know, like I want to do that with more people, do you, Like I want to find more women like her and and hire her to do all the things that I need to do, you know what I mean, like and just kind of create more of that network because you're so right, you know, like we are. I don't know. If we need things then we go on. I don't know, but you're right, like we lean to the mail whatever, like order things on Amazon, you know, like, yes, exactly, look for opportunities to support women owned businesses, black businesses, like the organizations that we want to support. And one of the things that you pointed out with Emily is that not only are you trying to create opportunity for her, but you're seeing in her something that she maybe needs to hear you say right to say, like you're such a hard worker, Like I would totally trust you with my friends. I'm going to tell folks about you, and just that alone like empowers her and makes her feel like okay, like we need to you know, speak what we see into each other. Right, Sometimes we get bogged down by society, like we're sprolling Instagram and seeing all kinds of messages, and so we need each other to like lift each other up and remind each other what we're capable of and what our value is. Sometimes we don't see it for ourselves. So if we have of amazing friends that can see that in us and point that out, it makes such a big difference. Yeah. And I also feel like what you said about speaking each other's names and rooms full of people even, like think about how how good it feels when someone says like, oh, yeah, so and so told me about you, or so and so told me. Even that isn't a direct compliment, but it is. It's an indirect compliment because there they know that you're speaking and like speaking opportunity into their life, which I think is a really cool thing. Sometimes not hearing it directly from the person is a cool feeling because you're like, wow, they're talking, They're talking about me to other people. Yeah, I love that. Um. Can you tell everyone where they can get your book? Yeah, so we should all be millionaires. Is available at Target, Airport Bookstores, Amazon, all the places. Check out independent bookstores too. Um and I also if you go to Hello seven dot com slash book, you can check out like different resources that we have related to the book available on our site. Amazing And then where else where? Can they follow you on Instagram, Twitter or whatever you wherever you are social? Yeah, I tend to hang out on Instagram. It's Rah Rogers e s Q Rogers with a d um and if you want to check out my Shenanigans on my horse ranch, it's at the Rogers Ranch. Well is that an open ranch? Can you visit? Do you have? Like? Yeah, we hope to have visitors soon. We have horses and my kids are taking riding lessons and we're hoping to have like events and be able to host retreats and things in the future. Um, but we're still kind of getting ready. We just bought it last year in the middle of a pandemic, as you do. Is just ranch, Yeah, just a casual, little ranch purchase of two New Yorkers. My husband's from Brooklyn, I'm from Queens. We don't know what we're doing, but we are good. Thank you for taking your and chat with us, and everyone go get your copy of We should all be Millionaires so we can all be millionaires, right exactly. Thank you so much for having me. Bye bye, I'm gonna be a millionaire. Yes, we are going to be millionaires. Yeah, and d M and let me know when it happens. We should get drinks when you're out here and then we can really discuss our plan. Yes, I'll DM, y'all, I'll let you if you're free, let me know perfect. By bye. Back with another powerful woman, we have Lindsay Boyd here. She is the co founder of The Laundress, which is a premium collection of eco conscious laundry and home cleaning product. Thank you for coming on, Lindsay. Thank you guys, thank you for having me. Okay, I wanted to start out with what does like for people? What does eco conscious laundry and at home clean? What does that actually mean? Does it mean clean products or what is it like for what am I trying to say, like clean for the environment? You're on the right track, Yeah, it's it's um Well. The product collection came about sixteen years ago, and this was before people really cared about what they were doing their laundry with, right, So the collection was designed specifically to remove dry cleaning from your life. So not having those harsh chemicals, the things that are bad for the environment, you know, ultimately bad for your skin and really really harmful for your clothing, So all about the laundre just started to be to be all about preserving the things that you care about, you know, keeping things in your life longer, not having to throw away the pit stained T shirt, you know, especially when we're spending more money on these shirts and and more money on our denim and the everyday clothing that you have to watch even that you don't even dry. Clean UM so clean. It's kind of like you know, you said clean because a lot of people are for clean beauty, but you know we're clean clean in the house where or in the house cleaning world. So all plant based UM, highly concentrated so you don't need a lot of water, and you can also use it for hand washing or for the machine. And it's super versatile, so all machine types, so all loads UM and all water types so like cold water, UM, warm water, hot water, etcetera. And it's more than just about it's it's more than just the product though, it's about the method and really understanding how to properly care for your things. Well, I was just gonna say I so I was. I got the law undress and it's the one for darks, which I've never had a specific detergent that was for darks or like, you know, I've like never had that luxury of having that, and I used it and my clothes smelled so good. I was like, this is the greatest thing ever. And a lot of times when it's a fragrance or like something that smells really good, my skin doesn't react to well to it, you know. So it's always kind of like I have to sacrifice the smell of the fragrance of laundry detergent to have you know whatever clean clothes and my skin to be okay. So I was really, you know, I was a little bit nervous because sometimes when it smells really good, my skin is like nope, and it didn't do anything. Yeah, And a lot of the a lot of the products where you have that really heavy fragrance um, typically it's synthetic fragrances. And also it's really comes down to the ingredients like petrochemicals and and those will be skin irritant um. Also, you know, there's allergies to two different fragrances depending on the levels of what they're what's being used. And even with essential oils, like it's not just you know, people think, oh, fragrance is bad, but you know, central oils can be very volatile and not great for you if you put it on your skin. That's why you use coconut oil as a barrier when you're using essential oils. I mean, if you think logically, um that way. So what we do is we have a nice blend of every of fragrance essential oils, a lot no allergy, allergy free fragrances, and there's not a lot um, whereas the traditional detergent market has like that heavy, heavy scent that almost doesn't go away, you can never wash it out, which is a designed that you don't but that goes right like it's it's really really nice because I did a whole I used to use like just I didn't even think about it, like I just buy whatever laundry soap was there forever. And I was struggling chronic chronic U T E S. And the I was asking a lot of our listeners like what do I do, and a lot of people the biggest thing was don't wash your underwear. I mean basically it was don't wash your clothes with these laundry detergents, but the underwear in particular, because there's so your your vagina is very sensitive to these things irritant. Well, yeah, your skin gets your skin gets irritated, especially when there's you know, not to get too specific, but they're sweat involved, right. So a lot of people, a lot of dermatologists will say, you can have a reaction like by your braw area or your you know, in a swimsuit. Like that's because your your body chemistry and perspiration are mixing with either what's on your skin you know, from lotions, to also your detergent. So it's really important to be mindful and just just that alone. So there are a lot of things that we wanted to tackle. You know, something that we that was right for caring for silk, caring for will and cashmere without having to dry clean because um, from our textile background, we knew it was really bad for the fibers. It actually strips the natural oils and makes our you know, we love Kashmir because of the way it feels. Yeah, and you can tell like once you dry clean, it kind of loses that luster, kind of loses that original reason why we invest in it and love the way it feels against our skin. Um. Yet clients that say they they love getting into their sheets at night because it smells so fresh and clean. It's like it's it's a like a comfort thing almost, you know, to have to have to use a really nice detergent. Yeah, it really, it is a luxury. So how do people get their hands on it? Okay? So we well at the laundry dot Com are actually running a promotion now for my birthday, and my birthday is coming up. I'm Leo fiercely a Leo. My birthday July. Um, so we're running a promotion now of percent off on our site, which I would definitely take advantage of, um because you want to load up on everything. But the so seven to three, just to kind of nod to my birthday, last year, I launched a scent um It's really really beautiful. 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You actually enjoy it. It's easy. They're all really easy to use. So well, yeah, thank you for coming on, and I hope you have a very happy birthday. Birthday. Thank you, Thank you ladies. All right, violency, thank you, by thank you. Well, the Laundress is celebrating Lindsay's birthday, as we talked about, with a gift for you. So for a limited time, used Coat Scrubbing to get twenty five percent off their laundry solutions and you can experience their noticeably amazing results for yourself. Just go to the laundress dot com and use code scrubbing off. Now, some exclusions may apply. All right, So now we're gonna get to Mark's fifty life lessons from fifty years of life. I don't think he did fifty life lessons. I don't don't really do any life lessons. But I thought what we need because you love quotes so much, I thought i'd give you like my favorite quotes of my fifty years. That wasn't totally the assignment, I understand, but I'm fifty things like can you imagine how boring that would be? Like all right, number thirty three? Okay, so yeah, Britany as I did thirty four, and I actually did. I said things that you've taught me. That's what I started like, And then I got to like fifteen, and I was like, I'm moving on to things I love about you. It's a lot like So I respect your decision, Mark, and I would love to hear the quotes. Antonia loves quotes. I still love quotes. I'm interested to hear what by Yeah, these are the These are a lot of quotes that I use with my daughter's alway number one. No, let's start with number five. I don't know if there are in any particular order. Pick your least favorite and say that one. For whatever, I'll just give you these. So this one I got. I got a bunch of action on this on social media, people like this when I said this on the show, and and it's funny if you google this quote, it is attributed to me. But I didn't make this up. And I don't know where I got it, but I didn't make it up anyway. Being brave and pretending to be brave are the same thing. So that's something I tell my daughters quite a bit because it can be hard. In fact, the people that are brave firefighters, soldiers, whatnot, are often just pretending just to get through it. Correct. Same thing, Uh, this one. Rick dis used to tell me all the time when I worked with him. You weren't worried so much about what others think of you. If you realize how seldom they do. Love that. Yeah, that's good because they're living their lives. They're worried about themselves. They're not worried about what you're wearing, what you're doing, what you're saying. They're they got their own stuff going on the best time to plant a tree it's twenty years ago. The second best time is right now. M that one, That one is? That one was great because you wouldn't believe how much that comes up in conversation, because everyone regrets the things they didn't do when they had the chance to do it. Well, yeah, that would have been great if you've done that, But you can't change that, So do it now. That's your next best option. Yeah, it's all right, it's growing on me. It's going to be number five for me. And I didn't ask you to critique. This is not a Tanya, What do you think about these? Nope, none of this was that. It was this is whatever I mean, Thank you very much. Um, I like this one. This one's too toobody Eastern out here today because this is a good one for him. Why else are we here if not to live with unreasonable passion for things. Well, that's Eastern in a nutshell, But it's me too. I'm not as open about it as Eastern is, but it's me too. My passion for the Milwaukee Brewers is insane and stupid, but it's never gonna change. And for Bruce Springsteen and for Saturday Night Live and for the Green Bay Packers, and it's just it is what it is, and I'm sorry it can be annoying for those around me and the people I live with, but that's what it is. My birthday gifts last week, every damn one of them at a Brewer's logo on it, and I couldn't have been happier. That's all I want, that's all I need. I'm a simple man. Passions are important and necessary. Agree. Um, when it's all finished, you will discover it was never random. M I love that one. It's a weird one for me, but I like it. And uh, and this one I've used a lot with my kids. Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end. That's very good because I think a lot of people, you know, panic of like with anxiety of what's going to happen, and sometimes bad things happen, but it's not the end of the road. He has like storms, storms, and they don't last forever. That's a storm and eventually storm ends. Yes, you're going to get to a place when it's going to be open, and it may not seem like that's ever going to happen, but you will. I have a lot of these. Um. I always tell my kids, um uh, why why do you want to blend in? You know, because their teenage well once about to be a teenager, when is a teenager, and they want to look like everybody else. Look, why do you want to blend in? You were born to stand out. I tell my kids that all the time. And I can't remember. It wasn't the last thing you said, but the one before it about your passions. Um. Somebody once told me. They said, like, your passions aren't random. There you're calling. Yes, I love that one, need too because it's so true. It's so true, and I definitely had that passion for radio growing up. Yeah, So I will leave you with those. Those are all really, really great. I love not disappointed about any of them. Thank you that I asked. Thank you you didn't ask, but just because Tanya was critiquing, I was just letting you know that they were all really great. The tree one I needed explaining and I got the explanation, and I'm going to plant something today. Actually, never too late, that's the message of that one. It's never too late. It's not we learned today. It's not too late for you to become a millionaire. So it's not like the best time for you start investing was twenty years ago. We didn't do that, So the second best time is right now. It all ties in. The best time for me to start investing was in hand sanitizer and toilet paper of two thousand and nineteen. It's true, and I missed it me too, So now I'm looking for the next big thing, which is not sure. We'll keep you posting, okay, perfect, Um, well, folks, that's all for today. That's all, folks. That's all folks. Thanks for tuning in. We're actually doing a special bonus episode tomorrow. Correct, so I, oh my god, that means you're coming over. That's right, I'll be here. It's exciting. We're excited. She has to come back to you. I just realized that. Um. I love you all. Have a great week now. We'll talk to you tomorrow. We'll talk to you tomorrow, and uh yeah, thanks for listening as always, love you. Bye.