Are you a dermatologist curious about clinical research — or a seasoned trialist looking to reignite your passion? In this episode of the Science of Skin Podcast, Dr. Ted Lane (Austin, TX) sits down with Dr. Jason Hawkes, Chief Scientific Officer at Oregon Medical Research Center, to pull back the curtain on what it really means to build a career in dermatology clinical trials.

From navigating the growing complexity of modern trial protocols to reframing the pharma-physician relationship, Ted and Jason share candid insights that only experienced clinical trialists can offer. They discuss how running trials makes you a sharper diagnostician, why medical dermatology remains one of the most rewarding specialties, and how industry partnerships open unexpected academic and commercial doors.

You'll also hear their honest takes on mentorship — including the must-read JAMA article Mentorship Malpractice — and why thinking of your career as a lattice, not a ladder may be the most liberating shift you can make.

Whether you're five years into practice or just starting out, this episode is packed with hard-won wisdom on building a meaningful, intellectually stimulating career in dermatology.

📩 Questions or future episode ideas? Email: questions@scienceofskinpodcast.com

Topics Covered:
How clinical trials combat physician burnout
The real motivations behind patient participation in trials
How to interpret clinical data like a trialist
Navigating the evolving complexity of trial conduct
Building industry relationships the right way
The importance of mentorship in dermatology research
Career advice: "lattice, not a ladder"

Disclaimer: This podcast is not intended to provide diagnosis, treatment, or medical advice. Content provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only. Please consult with a physician regarding any health-related diagnosis or treatment.

Are you a dermatologist curious about clinical research &mdash; or a seasoned trialist looking to reignite your passion? In this episode of the Science of Skin Podcast, Dr. Ted Lane (Austin, TX) sits down with Dr. Jason Hawkes, Chief Scientific Officer at Oregon Medical Research Center, to pull back the curtain on what it really means to build a career in dermatology clinical trials.
From navigating the growing complexity of modern trial protocols to reframing the pharma-physician relationship, Ted and Jason share candid insights that only experienced clinical trialists can offer. They discuss how running trials makes you a sharper diagnostician, why medical dermatology remains one of the most rewarding specialties, and how industry partnerships open unexpected academic and commercial doors.
You'll also hear their honest takes on mentorship &mdash; including the must-read JAMA article Mentorship Malpractice &mdash; and why thinking of your career as a lattice, not a ladder may be the most liberating shift you can make.
Whether you're five years into practice or just starting out, this episode is packed with hard-won wisdom on building a meaningful, intellectually stimulating career in dermatology.
📩 Questions or future episode ideas? Email: <a href="mailto:questions@scienceofskinpodcast.com">questions@scienceofskinpodcast.com</a>
Topics Covered:
<ul>
<li>How clinical trials combat physician burnout</li>
<li>The real motivations behind patient participation in trials</li>
<li>How to interpret clinical data like a trialist</li>
<li>Navigating the evolving complexity of trial conduct</li>
<li>Building industry relationships the right way</li>
<li>The importance of mentorship in dermatology research</li>
<li>Career advice: "lattice, not a ladder"</li>
</ul>
Disclaimer: This podcast is not intended to provide diagnosis, treatment, or medical advice. Content provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only. Please consult with a physician regarding any health-related diagnosis or treatment.

The Science of Skin is a podcast for those who want to be in-the-know about what’s trending, and what’s next in topical skincare.  Hosts  Dr. Patti Farris and Dr. Ted Lain are board certified dermatologist, recognized experts in topical skincare and co-founders of the Science of Skin Summit. In each episode, The Science of Skin will give you an insider’s view of the skincare industry.  You will hear from research scientists, formulators, and leading physician experts on how products are developed, tested, and used to treat medical and cosmetic patients.  

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Disclaimer: This podcast is not intended to provide diagnosis, treatment, or medical advice. Content provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only. Please consult with a physician regarding any health-related diagnosis or treatment.

The Science of Skin is a podcast for those who want to be in-the-know about what&rsquo;s trending, and what&rsquo;s next in topical skincare.&nbsp; Hosts &nbsp;Dr. Patti Farris and Dr. Ted Lain are board certified dermatologist, recognized experts in topical skincare and co-founders of the <a href="https://scienceofskincaresummit.com/">Science of Skin Summit</a>. In each episode, The Science of Skin will give you an insider&rsquo;s view of the skincare industry.&nbsp; You will hear from research scientists, formulators, and leading physician experts on how products are developed, tested, and used to treat medical and cosmetic patients. &nbsp;
So, if you&rsquo;re interested in a behind the scenes look at what makes the skincare industry tick, subscribe to The Science of Skin today. Thanks for listening!
&nbsp;
You can slo find us on YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@scienceofskinpodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@scienceofskinpodcast</a>
Disclaimer: This podcast is not intended to provide diagnosis, treatment, or medical advice. Content provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only. Please consult with a physician regarding any health-related diagnosis or treatment.

The Science of Skin

The Science of Skin is a podcast for those who want to be in-the-know about what’s trending, and what’s next in topical skincare.  Hosts  Dr. Patti Farris and Dr. Ted Lain are board certified dermatologist, recognized experts in topical skincare and co-founders of the Science of Skin Summit. In each episode, The Science of Skin will give you an insider’s view of the skincare industry.  You will hear from research scientists, formulators, and leading physician experts on how products are developed, tested, and used to treat medical and cosmetic patients.  

So, if you’re interested in a behind the scenes look at what makes the skincare industry tick, subscribe to The Science of Skin today. Thanks for listening!

You can also find us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@scienceofskinpodcast

Disclaimer: This podcast is not intended to provide diagnosis, treatment, or medical advice. Content provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only. Please consult with a physician regarding any health-related diagnosis or treatment.

The Science of Skin is a podcast for those who want to be in-the-know about what&rsquo;s trending, and what&rsquo;s next in topical skincare.&nbsp; Hosts &nbsp;Dr. Patti Farris and Dr. Ted Lain are board certified dermatologist, recognized experts in topical skincare and co-founders of the <a href="https://scienceofskincaresummit.com/">Science of Skin Summit</a>. In each episode, The Science of Skin will give you an insider&rsquo;s view of the skincare industry.&nbsp; You will hear from research scientists, formulators, and leading physician experts on how products are developed, tested, and used to treat medical and cosmetic patients. &nbsp;
So, if you&rsquo;re interested in a behind the scenes look at what makes the skincare industry tick, subscribe to The Science of Skin today. Thanks for listening!
You can also find us on YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@scienceofskinpodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@scienceofskinpodcast</a>
Disclaimer: This podcast is not intended to provide diagnosis, treatment, or medical advice. Content provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only. Please consult with a physician regarding any health-related diagnosis or treatment.