This brand of candies and snacks has the peanut-butter-and-chocolate market cornered. Anney and Lauren dig into the sweet and salty story of Reese’s.
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Hello, and welcome to Savor Protection of iHeart Radio. I'm Annie Reese and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum. And today we're talking about Reese's brand candy and other products. Yes, as opposed to Reese's brand podcast host. Yes, that's today. It's a related brand. It is also perhaps not as closely as I hope, but yes, both they're both are sweet and you know, variably smooth and and a little bit salty. Why, thank you, thank you. I don't think anyone's ever called me smooth in my life. And I'm going to treasure this moment wherever I'm I'm I'm here to help. Thank you, thank you. Yes, this is one of my absolute favorite and must collect Halloween candies. I have five candies I have to collect every Halloween or else the world will end. Although it seems like maybe I messed up last Halloween, but Reese's is one of them. Um, and until I was probably an embarrassing age, I believe that I was, in fact the air to the Reese's Candy fortune. Do I mean did that because somebody told you that? Or because you just assumed? I think I just assumed. Okay, Um, but we were we didn't have a lot of money, so I don't know where that came from. Maybe I thought I was like eighteen, I was going to inherit all of this this money. Yeah. Um. And recently since we read a listener mail about the Reese's guy, who is a guy who claims to be the biggest fan of Reese's and I would say he's got a decent shot that he is. We've become friends on Twitter, so I feel very accomplished about that. Um. And I do have a lot of Reese's memories. One is I think I shared on this podcast before, but one of my best friends she introduced me to um, the reess that have Reese's pieces in them Oh right, right right? Uh huh. I'd never heard about them. And she introduced this to me as if she was introducing the finest chocolate. And she cut it up with a knife and held it up to me and she said, like a damn sunset, I love I love it so much. Um. And on my dad's birthday, my dad was a college professor and his students used to give him Reese's great. Yeah I have, I've made my own, and I feel like the key was the confectioner sugar and the peanut butter for the consistency. Yeah sure, yeah, yeah, because that that took me a minute to get but eventually eventually I got it. Um. We did talk a little about Reese's because I couldn't resist in our peanut butter episode, I think. Um. We also have done an episode on chocolate if you want to do a sort of back to back after this. And speaking of episodes we've done recently, Lauren and I were on a movie Crush Oh yeah with Chuck. Yeah. We did a round table um with with Nolan Chuck about um, The Witch, Yes, we did, which is a movie that has come up quite a bit on the show. Actually perhaps not surprisingly yeah, yeah, yeah, considering that we are horror weirdos, um and you know, and food factors into the Witch. It certainly does, perhaps not in the way you would think of right off the bat, but it does. Um. And also, as of late, Reese's has been releasing a lot of um, shall we say, interesting flavors, uh like potato chips and pretzels and their actual slogan right now is no joke, the hell with it, it's I did not believe you when you sent me this information. I was like, Annie has surely been misguided in some way. The onion has gotten to her. Yeah yeah, But I looked it up and y'all this is accurate. This is a fact um. And their website is just I really feel whoever is writing their copy right now. Um it's it's emblazoned with with things like like they've got like a whole Halloween spread and the headline is like the trick is to just buy all the Reese's cups. I'm like, all right, yeah, yeah, cool. I want to hear a scary story. The website says, someone ate all the Reese's peanut butter pumpkins before you got one period the end period. Oh, I love it. And then on a recipe for for um for like kind of like a like a race crispy treat style like Reese's Pieces Cereal bar um caption who said you can't have candy for breakfast? Your dentist, your parents, They're totally right. You should eat a well balanced meal and then make these delicious Reese's Pieces Cereal bars. Wow. All coming from the company that also makes Reese's Puffs, The Cereal the Cereal Uh huh yeah, I think that Reese's puffs are involved in the cereal bars anyway. Oh that makes sense, Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. I do want to shout out my friend and listener Barry, because he's been keeping me supplied with Reese's uh steady supply of Reeses and caffeine during this pandemic. And uh, I think I've got probably fifty races. Um, I'm rationing them slowly. I got all guns. Well, I had the pumpkins, but they're gone. It's a scary story. I'm living it, living it right now. Reese's brand writer. Well, but the thing is is that the someone who ate all of them was you. I am a monster at the end of the book. Ah, that's the scariest story of all. There you go, There you go. But I guess we should get to our question. I suppose. Yeah, Reese's what are they? Well, Reese's is a brand of peanut butter based confections UM. And that includes chocolate peanut butter cups, which are you know, like flat disks of milk chocolate coated sweetened peanut butter that come in these shallow paper cups. UM. Also chocolate covered peanut butter that they mold into other shapes for different holidays. Um, they have some rest bunnies. Oh no, I mean, oh yes, but yeah, I don't know the hearts and bats and eggs and all all all kinds of different stuff. Also Reese's Pieces, um, which are candy shelled drops of sweetened peanut butter about the size and shape of Eminem's um or like a like a slightly flattened peanut perhaps, or like a large Lentil, a large Lentel. You've given them, You've given the good listeners many uh scale sizes to choose from whatever works best for you. Yeah, you've got options, you know, if you've never witnessed Reese's Pieces or an eminem I'm I'm just trying to just trying to help paint a picture good looking out. Yeah. Um. So those are those are the base offerings, I would say, the kind of bottom of the of the pyramid that is the Reese's brand. Um. But there are so many variations and tie in products. Um. As of twenty nineteen, there were sixty two different ones in different shapes and et cetera, which Thrillist ranked. If you're interested in seeing what Thrillists had to say, about it. Um, but yeah, I like a list. Let's run down a list. Um. The ones that I counted on their website as of right now include, but are not limited to, um thins which have less peanut butter, and big cups which have more peanut butter, cups with crunchy style peanut butter cups that contain those many Reesa's pieces, chocolate coated caramel candy bars that contain many Reesa's pieces, Cups that contain chunks of pretzels and with the peanut butter cups that contain crunchy chocolate cookie pieces, and with the peanut butter white chocolate coated cups, dark chocolate coated cups, the fast Break bar, which is a bar with like a layer of newgat in there. Um sticks which have layers of wafer inside, sort of like a kick cat. Um Crispy crunchy bars which looks like a butterfinger, but with like some chopped peanuts in the outer chocolate layer. The Nutrageous Bar um we features a layer of caramel and peanuts in between the chocolate and the stuff. The Peanut Butter um Take five bars that have pretzels and peanuts with caramel um, chocolate and peanut butter dipped pretzels, snack mixes with mini cups, and coated popcorn crunchers, which I guess are like rice puff peanut butter chip clusters that are coated in chocolate. UM. They just came out with snack cakes that they're recommending for like not breakfast, but like a mid morning snack m hm. And and the breakfast cereal they also do. They do sell the peanut butter chips for for for baking. There's also UM like a like a chocolate peanut butter flavored shell style ice cream topping that you can buy. You can buy like a jar of Reese's peanut butter UM or or a container of branded peanut butter sauce UM for for topping desserts with for the food service industry. UM. They sell all of these things in bulk. UM. And if you're wondering exactly what I mean by bulk, they sell pound buckets of peanut butter. Whoa UM and I did not include a link to this. You're welcome, Annie, Yeah, it's probably for the best. I didn't feel like that was good to do. I hope I can forget this information as soon as possible. I also do have to say, and I'm pretty sure that this is an accurate fact. It looked strange to me, but I think it's true. You can buy a drum of Reese's branded liquid flavoring that is four hundred and eighty pounds of product. What I either there is a magnificent typo on their food service product sheet, or you can buy a drum of peanut butter flavoring that weighs four and eighty pounds. Wow. I have so many questions. Who needs that? And why? And can we be friends with them? Yes? I just want to ask some questions. That's dangerous, you know. Um. Well that being said, um, nutrition wise, Uh, it clearly depends on exactly what product you're you're talking about here, um, and I would I would put all of this in the tweet category. Um. There there's going to be a lot of sugar involved. Um, probably a bunch of fats um. And uh. I will say that that the peanut butter being involved in in confection is always interesting because it adds a good punch of protein, so like it's not gonna fail to keep you going quite so hard as some other candies. But it's it's a it's a it's a treat. It's a treat. If you didn't know, I I literally used to tell myself that to make myself feel better, Like, you know what, at least there's peanut butter in here, and peanut butter has protein. So it could be worse. It could be. It certainly could be worse. Thank you, I say, with my fifty fifty reces that are tempting me all the time. Gosh, well, speaking of temptation, we do have some numbers for you, we do. Oh boy. Um. It is one of the most popular chocolate candies in the United States. Uh you. Gov puts Reese's as the third most popular candy in America, and it's eaten all around the world. Her She's makes an estimated five million dollars in annual cells from Reese's. Oh loan, the combo peanut butter and chocolate is pretty American, and in the United States, this combo is synonymous with Reese's. They don't really have a competitor, at least, you'd be hard pressed to think of the name of that competitor. Yeah, yeah, um. The only thing I could think of was Trader Joe's has those, sure, like they were really small though, but those small dark chocolate peanut butter cups. Yeah, the only thing I could think of. Yeah, there's a couple of um of of candy brands that do like maybe like a like a chocolate bar that has like a peanut butter swirl in it, or um or or of course candy bars that contain peanuts or um uh yeah. Yeah, some some like what's that company, Justin's or something that does the like the like organic e um candy stuff. Yeah, yeah, they do a peanut butter cup. But yeah, yeah, um. Reese's is hypothetically the most popular snack size Halloween market candy brand. Like, so if you are giving out Reese's, you're the favorite stop on the street. Oh, yes, you are, absolutely. I had when I was a kid, I had it all marked out. Like by the time I got to middle school, I knew you want to go to That's a tragedy when they moved, you know, like, no, my King size butterfinger house. Wow, that's a that that's a flex King size butterfinger house. Okay, Anyway, million American households eat Reese's products at least once a year h one intrepid redditor risted he scooped out all the peanut butter of all the Reese's varieties he could get his hands on and waded them to discover which products had more peanut better. Uh, the egg and the heart are about tied. And this is also available online if you want to get the most peanut butter or the least. Maybe you like that part the last for your book. This information is available oh widely, yeah, yeah, oh yes, yes, es, yes, something else. Uh, this this brand has going for it is merchandizing. I know that somebody I own at least one Reese's T shirt some kind of Reese's iron skillet. And I know that that doesn't sound like it makes sense. Maybe I'll take a picture of it, but it's the thing that I own, all right, Yeah, oh that's right. Yeah. And you you went to one time when we were in New York. Uh, I had, I had, I was having a lousy day and I like went back to my hotel. Um, but but I just got this like series of pictures from Annie and like a bunch of them were in the Reese's section of the her She store. Yeah, I was like, I better have my money. Again, I have no no connection to the Reese's brand, but I like to get salty about it anyway. Um they have. Their Facebook page has twelve million followers, and those followers, by the way, campaigned to create I Love Reese's Day, which is now celebrated on eighteen of every year. I'm gonna mark mccollundar. They've been in run DMC and the Indigo Girls songs, They've been in Family Guy episodes. They are there just loved in pop cultural people have a passion for this candy in a way that not too many other candies experience. Yeah. Yeah, not just you, other people as well. Yes, I'm not alone in this. And the history of how we got here is pretty fascinating. Oh it is, um And we will get into that after we get back from a quick break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you. So as early as nineteen o seven, Americans goodbuye chocolate covered peanut butter confections. If you remember from our Peanut Butter episode, peanut butter was marketed aggressively as a health food. So this candy was at the intersection of healthy and indulgent, which I do think is funny that a child like me even was, well, at least there's peanut butter in here. Yeah, yeah, um. But in these early years this candy didn't ever really become super popular. Meanwhile, years earlier, in nineteen o three, Milton Hershey, yes, that one began building up the town of Hershey, Pennsylvania, and the first chocolate factory of his went up in nineteen o five. We've got to revisit this in another episode. Oh yes, yes, I did not realize it went back that far. M interesting Reese's Peanut Better Cups for the invention of Harry Burnett Reese or HB. Reese. He was born on a farm in Pennsylvania in eighteen seventy four or maybe eighteen seventy nine. I saw some conflicting dates, but anyway, around that time. In nineteen hundred, he married Blanche Edna Hyson and went on to have sixteen children, who yeah, half boys, half girls, thirteen made it to adulthood. Because of this, HB. Reese wasn't in the most secure financial position by nineteen o three, and he took on a whole host of jobs in several states. From book during to factory work to fishing operations. He returned to farming in nineteen twelve, moving his family around Pennsylvania a few times. Jumped to nineteen sixteen or nineteen seventeen, and Reese stumbles on an ad to work at a dairy farm in Pennsylvania owned by one Milton s Hers. He took the job and spent several years working on the dairy farm. He was promoted, but the site he was promoted to shut down to save money, so another I was like, well, surely this is it. Nope, nope. He keep back. Through this, Reese grew interested in making his own chocolates though, and making some extra money on the side, so he got to work in his basement, using fresh ingredients alongside some her She's chocolate to make chocolates that he named after his children. He sold chocolate covered almonds and raisins, but he had to abandon this venture due to lagging sales. The family moved a few more times and Reese took on more odd jobs, sometimes several at wants to support his family. They returned to Hers, Pennsylvania in and he got a job working in the shipping room of the her She's chocolate factory and seeing the amount of chocolate her she sold rekindled his interest in making a living off of candy. On top of the chocolate covered almonds and raisins, he also started producing mints, hard candies, and an invention he called the Lizzie Bar after one of his children, a coconut caramel candy covered in chocolate, and his little side gigs selling candy to local markets was more successful than he thought, successful enough that he was able to start his own business in the nineteen twenties. The HB. Reese Candy Company story goes Hershey allowed him to quit with the quote handshake promise that Reese would only buy chocolate from Hershey's, and he did. He continued doing that. He did yeah. Over the years, Reese's sales increased and his operations expanded until he built a factory in nine Then, in n Reese introduced what he called Peanut Butter Cups are Penny cups, a candy combining chocolate and peanut butter. According to Candy Lore, Reese got the idea after speaking with the sales rip who informed him that he could never keep peanut butter cups and stock and requested that Reese makes some of these peanut butter cups. In their original form, these cups were fairly simple, um peanut butter rolled up into a ball and then dipped in chocolate. But even though they were simple the recipe, it took him a minute to arrive at it. Reese purchased a fifty pound canister of peanut butter after that conversation with the sales rep and started experimenting. And these these candies were hard to mass produce um or even just produce a significant number. So he pivoted two cups as opposed to chocolate covered balls of peanut butter, and he started to make his own peanut butter, roasting the peanuts until they were practically burnt. The family legend claims that this this roasted taste is the key to Reese's peanut butter cup m Ah and yeah um, those those balls would have had to have been um individually hand dipped, which which right is a time consuming process. But with the but with the cups, you just pour in a layer of chocolate, let it set a little bit, pour in the peanut butter and let that set, and then pour in a third layer of chocolate. Relatively easy. There you go, and people loved them. Oh yeah, yeah, to the point Reese could sell boxes wing in at five pounds to stores often included it with an assortment of other candies, but still large part of them were these these Reese's peanut butter cups. He was able to leave his job at her She and focus entirely on his company, constructing a one hundred thousand square foot factory on Hershey, Pennsylvania's Chocolate Lane, which again I got more about this. Oh yeah, I've never been despite having lived in Pennsylvania. I as soon as things opened back up again. This is definitely a field trip destination. Yes, yes, and uh. This factory that he constructed turned out all kinds of candies and confections, and as a part of his marketing, he would set up tables in the windows of department stores where people could watch girls coating these candies and then try a sample, which that's how you get them, That's how you get them. The Great Depression did make things difficult, surprise, surprise, and when it was too hot to make candy in the summer, Reese farmed and canned vegetables, eventually setting up his own cannary business. But once the Great Depression came to an end, the company's success grew, and the most popular product by far were the peanut butter cups. By five, the cups could be purchased separately five cents a pop, candy or legend says that was also a sales rep asking for that um. Consumers could buy them in various sizes too. Also around this time, Reese built a fishing lodge in Maryland that was open to all employees for a dollar a day, a price that also included all meal. It's nice. Yeah. Things changed with World War Two due to scarcities of ingredients, UM, Reese made the fateful decision to focus on his most popular product, Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. And this was the right call financially. Oh yeah, yeah, um yeah it was. It was really lucky. I guess that that that peanut butter was not as affected by rationing as some of those other ingredients. So so, in addition to being the most popular, it was also, um perhaps not as difficult to make as something that has a higher chocolate content, which was a little bit more difficult. So yeah, and as other folks tried to imitate the Peter buttercups. As other companies entrepreneurs tried to get in on this, Reese would send these threatening letters to drugstore owners declaring that he owned the trademark of quote peanut butter cups. However, one of Reese's competitors or potential competit there's filed a lawsuit putting an end to these threatening letters that Reese would send out. Um. He did die from an abrupt heart attack in nineteen fifty six. As the company's success and popularity was still on the rise, six of Reese's sons came together and decided to sell the company. After much argument. It sounds like some of them really didn't want to sell, some of them really did. No one could really agree on how much it was worth. But sell they did, to the original inspiration, the Hershey's Chocolate Company, seven years after their father's death. Um. They sold it for twenty three point five million dollars and a five percent share of the Hershey Company for the Reese's children. Yes, because, according to Business Insider Today, that is quote worth about twenty billion, five percent of which is one billion dollars. What okay? Cool? Okay cool? Indeed, I wish I was right. Oh yeah. In ninety two, pop artist Roy Lichtenstein painted an image of peanut butter cup UM in by nine six peanut butter cups for her She's best selling candy at three hundred million cups a year. The first national ad campaign for Reesus launched a year later in nineteen seventy. Apparently, this ad campaign really went to work convincing consumers that these two flavors tasted good together, even though people were already into it, and it was the two great taste campaign, which I believe I've seen even though I've somehow missed a lot of these pop culture like commercials that people all seem to know I knew about this. UM sales increased so much after this ad campaign that her she thought there had been an encounting error. They thought there was an error in their books. That's great, I know, I know. And they were They were really just like like cute, kitchy commercials. They they had UM there. There were a bunch of a collision themed ones where they would have two different people walking down the street, like one would be like, oh man, I love my peanut butter and the other would be like, oh, man, I love my chocolate. And then they would smack right into each other and you're like, oh, you got peanut butter and a chocolate. You got chocolate and a peanut butter. And then it would be like, oh, man, we're best friends now. Um, so it was, it was, it was kind of cute. Um those ran um for for over a decade and then um, in the late eighties Reese's debut there, um, how do you eat a Reese's campaign again with with just these these kind of cute sort of kitchy things where um, where they would have different people from from all walks of life showing how like the silly ways in which they ate a Reese's peanut butter cup and it I don't know, like psychologically, it's fascinating, just really good, really good advertising. And this is what if anyone's seeing the Family Guy episode is or hasn't, this is what they're making fun of. And when I remember where like the cop, it's like a cop and some other car collide and it's a much deadlier outcome to this collision campaign. But and there's there's a really interesting article on Atlas obscuritya about this because they were looking into why was Hershey's acting as if people didn't like peanut butter cups when they clearly did and they knew about them, and it was sort of to put their mark their name on. Yeah. Yeah, yeah that that that that that flavor combination is there's so right right, So yeah, if you're interested in in advertising psychology, yeah, you can go check that article out. Is really interesting. Reese's Pieces, which is one of my nicknames, was that they were invented in after they appeared in the hit movie et sales went up by ste percent. Oh uh. And this this is a very a relatively early example of a very successful product campaign showing a product within a major motion picture. Um. But but Reese's spent six weeks and a million bucks promoting this film and in return for exclusive confectionery promotion surrounding the film, which is a really hilarious sentence. But but but but that kind of thing does does matter, like you know, like like like Hershey's brand really locked that in and that was it was a big deal. They hadn't even read the whole script or seen pretty much any of the film when they signed this deal. By the way, they had been sent a t shirt that had a picture of Et and Elliott on it, and they thought that Et was ugly and that that's like like kind of all they knew about the movie, Like, yeah, they're like alien's ugly. Let's take a big gamble in a pair. Really apparently, they they they screened, they had a special screening of the film for Reese's employees, um like the week that it came out, and and everybody just loved it and there was like huge applause at the end, and like the guy who had said that Et was ugly was like, no, he's beautiful, and it's it's really it's really sweet. There is, by the way, um um a Hershey's archives dot org, a wonderful website that has a lot of orally told tales um often often transcribed rather than posted up in UM in like audio format, but but it's got it's got some beautiful stories up there. If you're a history nerd or a candy nerd, or maybe both, check it out. Yeah. Now I'm curious when Eminem's came because emin ms is owned by Hershees as well. Now Mars Mars they're owned by Okay, that makes for short sense because I was like I know in an MS was offered first and then they turned it down and Reese's took it. Okay, that makes that makes more sense. Also, I only just saw ET two or three years ago, four years ago because I was so afraid of aliens as a child. I watched the first like five minutes and was like, nope, ever again. And then I wrote the ride at Universal and I was like, Okay, maybe I need to see this movie. The ride is notoriously nothing like the movie, by the way, Um yeah, it's not. That's accurate. It's uh, it's real trippy. Um. It is hilarious precisely the way that the movie is not. But the movie is kind of scary, Like I remember being pretty frightened of certain scenes in that in that movie when I was a kid. Um. But yeah, yeah, I'm glad that you finally checked it out. Yeah yeah. And the Reese's piece of sen I was so culturally relevant even though I hadn't seen it, I knew I knew that scene. Oh sure, yeah, um uh skipping head a little bit. Um in two thousand eight, Uh that that wouldn't be there their only movie tie and in two Reess made a Batman logo cup for release with the Dark Knight, which I appreciate. They're like, oh yeah, gritty reboot and Reese's Peanut buttercups shaped like the bat. Yeah. I can imagine Batman like sad sitting in a dark corner and moonlight just casting his shadow, chewing on a bat logo Reese's cup. Oh you know that, I try to anything again. Yeah, Alfred stocks those for him for sure. Absolute. Um. That same year, in two eight, UM HB. Reese's grandson, one of his grandsons, Andrew R. Reese, published a book called Reese's Peanut but Our Cups The Untold Story. I don't think it's this dires I just made it sound. Um, it's probably real sweet. Um, I'm not intended anyway. Um. As of Reese's cups were still a relatively new product in the Japanese market outside of the United States. They're they're pretty hard to find there have been traditionally, partially because, as we talk about in our Peanut Butter episode, peanut butter isn't really a thing very much outside of the United States. Um. And so they were this relatively new product in the Japanese market, and they were a phenomenon. They were out selling many kit cats in like big box stores, which is wild. Yeah, oh yeah, and I know there's um there's a handful of celebrity videos of celebrities from different countries in the United States trying Reese's cups for the first time. UM. So yeah, I find so interesting. Apparently in in New York City, Reese has built a big orange machine called the Reese's Halloween Candy Converter Machine, which they debuted in a parade where people could drop off their unwanted Halloween candy in exchange for Reese's um In five hours, the machine spat out ten thousand ress. I mean, we all know you've all got that candy you don't want to share. I talked as though I still chook or treat, you know, I still come into contact with candy during Halloween. Yeah, huh wow, that is that's that's great. That is snarky and I love it. Um, I know, uh yeah, I don't know. Later that season, they put out a Reese's Advent calendar for the first time. UM. You know what, Oh, that's interesting. I was trying to find like, I wanted to learn more about the packaging because I feel like the packaging is really iconic. Um, and I didn't stumble across it. I'm sure it exists, but I was wondering if perhaps this maybe the orange color and Halloween that's one of the ways it became. So I don't know, I just was thinking about that. Yeah, yeah, I know that that that makes that makes total sense. It's already it's already on brand for Halloween, so you know, why not m hm m hm huh uh yeah. Um. Speaking of color, I suppose um that this year Reese's debut their first not either white or brown cup. Um, they have a they have a frankin cup with a with a green bottom. Yeah, okay, sure, kick cup. That's fun, always mixing things up. The hell with it? Hell with it? It's I couldn't have said itself. You uh huh hard agree, hard agree. Well, here's hoping that anyone listening out there finds a safe way to celebrate Aloween. And if you want races, and I hope that you find them in your in your future indeed, oh completely um and I uh, I guess that is what we have to say about ess today. Um, but we we do have some listener mail for you we do, but first we have one more quick break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsoring, Yes, thank you. We're back with How did that sound get synonymous with being haunted by go right? It doesn't seem like a very ghostly sound. I guess I don't know. I guess I don't have any practical experience with the matter. Uh m hmm. That's that's research for another day, in another post, another podcast. Yeah, I'd like to know. I'd like to get to the bottom of that, Michael wrote, just dropping you a line to let you know how much you'd enjoy october Fest in Munich. It can't be understated how much of a good time it is. Me and my wife went in twelve and we often talked about getting in a group together to go back. Definitely do an episode on the festival itself. From the gigantic subterranean beer tanks to keep beer flowing and cold. To the other end, I'd argue, there's no system in the world that moves liquid at this volume as efficiently as Octoberfest, and it's all table service. There's no three deep shoving at a bar trying to get a bartender's attention. There's better service packed back to back with six million strangers who are now your friends, serving seven million beers than there is an average American bar. Though they do only serve one beer in leaders, they will mix it half and half with lemonade and sprite for a rattler for you. Oh and the tents are taken down each year and put back up. And the food, the pretzels, the roasted macadamia nuts, and half of october Fest is a carnival. Don't forget the parade to start, which I think replaces the horse racing horse drawn carts of barrels of beer with festival goers on the back of it drinking already. You can't get a beer yourself until the initial tap at ten am. You folks would love all this stuff. It's such a grand celebration of beer and life and just celebration. Oh I'm in, I am in most table service. Oh yeah, yeah, I yeah, that's wild. That's great. And I I want to know about these tanks, all of this. I am so intrigued by. Yes, more delicious research to be done. Um uh oh. And I was just thinking about the ghost noise, and I wonder if if if it became synonymous if that who became synonymous with ghosts due to the use of Fairman's and um in early like radio dramas. Maybe yeah, but but but if so, like what like who decided that that's clearly the best ghost noise? Anyway? I hope this is a running theme throughout where we just randomly cut in and I'm like, what about that ghost noise? Though I have another theory. You know, what if that's just have a sound? What if that's actually right? I Okay, we really do need to put more thought into this at any rate, James wrote, I just had to tell you some of my family's inappropriate food based animal names. I grew up on a farm, so most animals didn't have names except the horses and a couple of the dogs. Occasionally a special one would get a name, however, it was normally based on what they would become. The main one I remember was a steer that was named Sir Lone mm hmmm. In high school I showed hogs and through the four years my hogs were named Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Pork Chop, b LT, and ham Hawk. There was also slow Joe and Dozer. We had a goose that we called c D for Christmas dinner. I used to work for a city in animal welfare and was talked into fostering a dog in her pups. I had just finished watching the anime excel Saga and she looked like the dog in it, so I called her Menchi. According to the main character, who was an alien. In her language, the word means emergency rations. I called her that as a joke, and it's stuck. Everybody thought it was a beautiful name, and I didn't have the heart to tell them where I got it. I love that name ration emergency rations. Oh. That is one of those things though, when someone ask you and you know that the answers so the opposite of what they're expecting that I'll just be really jarring where you have that moment of like do I tell them? What do I tell them? How do we broach this? 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