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We call them the Salty Dogs.
Welcome everybody to a very special episode of The Salty Dogs Podcast. We did this for the first time last year, and we decided to do it again because it was a lot of fun. We are bringing well a questionable about Okay, so I'll just let us introduce who's here first, the Salty Dogs. I'm Scott Smith.
And I am Jeff Bryan.
We're the Salty Dogs. We are and we have with us our colleagues Brianna Dix and Casey Philp.
Yeah.
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He got married.
I knew exactly what was happening.
Now pause for a second thing which yees still Casey.
Kept kept the work name, but just wanted to confuse you a little bit. I can see why the pause happened. It was like, yep, I have the same thing happened to me when I go places, which makes me look really stupid, like I don't know my own last name. But I'm having that moment of like, have I changed it here? I don't know.
Yes.
So what we're doing here is we brought the four of us together to do a mock draft since the draft is this week. Jeff currently has his hand on his forehead. Okay, desperation. He is doing this podcast in protest.
Basically, I am just working the equipment because I actually have a on and off switch on my microphone.
Yeah, well, feel free to turn it off.
Yeah, your wish is my command.
Jeff likes mock drafts about as much as he likes talking about fantasy football. So true that gives you any idea. And so we are going to run a mock draft. But we have one question that I wanted to start with because it's relevant right now, from our friend Alexander and Brazil. He says, a hoy salty ones. Hopefully this finds you both well. Mock drafts seem to me a topic that mister Ryan does not love. So if he had the power to rule mock drafts, what would he do? Ban them? Limit to one mock a person, limit to the week before the draft.
I would say that you're allowed to do one mock draft. If you're not correct, then you never ever get to do a mock drafts correct.
There you go, there's got to be a bark.
How many would you have to your right?
All right, you can't get the top five right, Okay, you got to get the top five right in order, Yeah, I get it to the teams, to the exact teams.
You got to predict the trades exactly, exactly, so five years from now there just would be no mock drafts. I know.
Yeah, I understand. People love this stuff. They you know, it's fun to talk about. But one of the things that I have to clarify is I do enjoy the draft on draft Day when it's actually happening, because now that's called I don't know, real life.
So you've never liked made a prediction about anything, and you're like, you're just anti prediction.
Well, not about that about the draft. I'm anti prediction because you don't know. It's it's fun. You're you're speculating. It's like, oh wow, you know, you might as well be doing an astrology, you know. Oh yeah.
I feel like Jeff is an unfortunately yes, well unfortunately I feel like he's trying to get rid of all of our jobs, because essentially this is everything being a sports reporter is. At this point, it's talking about what might happen.
I'm not saying you can't do it. It's just not my cup of team.
Okay, well you just tried to ban them, so well, no, the question was what would I do?
How would I do it?
It would ban them in a very subtrifugi way, making she.
Would make everybody very nervous, like I got to get the first vibe.
Then you'd really do your job rather than just willy nilly.
Trying to predict what teams will do.
All of that all subjective, but I will say I really enjoy studying the players, learning about them, and then that carries over into the season because regardless if we pick someone or not, you're probably going to face the vast majority of them, and then you already have that background knowledge.
Let me ask this question, do you know when do you decide that you got a good pick? When is it that you can confirm that years in is.
What they typically say, three years, three.
Years, agotay, at least three years, right, I mean we can say now Tristan Wurtz was a great pick, right because Winfield was a great pick. Yeah.
Now, because everyone talks about you know, you got to get a first rounder. You know, it's so key. You know you're stacking your odds there. But if you really do the math, and you always do Scott, I mean, how many first round picks about? Okay, yes, so that's why.
But what this is and what we're going to do today, there's two different ways to do a mock draft. Well, there's many, but the two main ones are a predictive mock, which is what we're doing now, where we're trying to guess what's actually going to happen, or you do a mock where you think, you pick what you think the team should do. We're doing a predictive mind Yeah, okay, fair enough, Well this is this could take me.
We're not allowed to do one next year because of Jr's rules.
This will be well, we got to hit the first five.
Listen, this is this is for entertainment purposes only.
Okay, So Jeff and I I were responsible for picking the odd numbered picks, but I didn't know that and I didn't get a whole lot of input from Jeff.
I give that a way there.
Brian Casey, do the odd picks. We do allow trades. We took care of the draft beforehand so this would go more quickly and smoothly. And we did allow mock trades, and we had two of them, which we'll get to when we get to them.
Is everybody good, We're ready, Let's do it.
I'm confused.
Go ahead, Chicago Bears on the clock. Ryan Poles, general manager. This one's easy, obviously. Caleb Williams, the quarterback from USC. I don't think we really need to go that much into that one.
Yeah, it seems to be the consensus on pretty much every monk is And the only thing that I feel like is kind of the same amongst all of them as Caleb Williams at number one.
There's no doubt they're taking Caleb Williams.
I just wanted to say something I think is so interesting whenever I read these different bios and I look at all these players, is the difference in the players that have been They played a lot of difference sports. Are they very early on honed in on one thing? And did they seem trained for this? Like the different philosophies we all have about how we train kids in sports. Do we let them just play different things do we try to get them ready?
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Williams is fascinating to me that I read about how, at age ten he and his father created the plan and I'm like, this is wild. It's in this training regimen gets them on the fathty like he's already got his own foundation. It was sports psychologists, it was diets and five thirty am workouts, like even as a kid. I'm like, man, I really hope it works out because that.
Sounds can someone do that? And the guy got drafted by the Green Bay Green Bay Packers and then Tank Do you remember that sky.
Think you're talking about Todd Marinovitz.
There you go.
I don't think if it was the Packers, this was another guy.
Yeah, I believe he went to the Packers.
This was another guy started out as a child and all of this famously, Yes, had to do this that, And what happened was he burned out. No, he was drafted by the Raiders.
Oh who do you go to?
The Raiders? Raiders played two season.
I don't think it was quite that early. But didn't Christian McCaffrey have a similar.
I don't know. His dad was an NFL wide receiver, right.
I feel like him and his dad, at like a very early age started the conditioning, the diet and all of that.
I think Marinovitch was more extreme, like they wouldn't let him eat fast food his whole life, and so when he started to rebel a little bit and do some of the things he wasn't supposed to do, he kind of went off the cliff. It was too much. So it's a legitimate concern, but not enough to make the Bears not take Caleb number one.
Yeah, but I just think it's a really interesting strategy, and I mean maybe it helps in terms of he has been under pressure for so long that he's had this singular focus. So when you talk about that number one overall pick, maybe that that sets him up for you know, more success that That's what I just think It's going to be interesting to watch, And I'm always intrigued on the different prospects of did we play a thousand sports or did we start this honing in thing very early? I'm team play a thousand sports, but he too.
Yeah.
Also he painted his fingernails that one time, oh yes.
Which caused yeah an uproar on So froma yeah.
I got nothing.
It's silly. You don't need to have an opinion on this. So they got a picture of them in a basketball game or something else nails and that bothered some people for some reason.
We'll just have to blow up on anything and everything.
All right, you guys, are you two are on the clock now for Washington.
So Washington, which a lot of I feel like it's kind of split between Drake May and Jade and Daniels at number two. We went with Jade and Daniels the best, a threat of the class, kind of magician on the move. But for me, I just like the marriage with Cliff Kingsbury. He's worked with several high level mobile quarterbacks, Patrick Mahomes and Kyler Murray, And even though obviously Daniels is his own player, I just like that combination of the dimension huad to Washington's offense.
Yeah, and I think it'll be interesting to see. He dealt with a lot of turmoil in college, whether it was from COVID stuff or the Arizona State coaching changes, all the things going on there. Does that help kind of prepare him in some ways for the fact that Washington has been undergoing all these changes as well, and again, when you're such a high pick, there's already so much pressure there. But you know, is he a guy who because he was able to make that change already in college and handle it really well big stage, you know, is he ready for that? I do like that he's the guy that can scramble, the guy that can do all the athletic stuff. But sometimes I think that's a tough adjustment for guys going into the NFL when they were able to rely a little bit more on their athleticism. But can he stay in the pocket or even if he's forced out, still go onto those further reads and not just rely on the athleticism when suddenly everyone's bigger, stronger, faster.
Yes, well, oh go ahead.
So why didn't he have a big year until his fifth year in college?
That's what I was saying about the whole like there were a lot of well there was COVID for one year where they didn't even play a whole lot, and then there was all the different coaching stuff at Arizona State.
He started twenty seven games the previous two seasons.
Took a little bit of development.
Yeah, that's that's a red flag for me. Also, you know who else is mobile. Drake May. He's not Jayden Daniels.
He has a functional athletics.
No, he's a big, fast guy who's a load in the open field, like Josh Allen. Brie and I have disagreed about this first Yeah, the last couple of months, she likes Jane Daniels. I think Drake May. I do agree that he has been the guy everybody expects Washington Tank, although there's been a little bit of a shift in that in the public perception in the last week or so, leaning more towards Drake May, which is who I would personally pick, but it makes sense in a predictive mind.
Well, I just think he had the best tape of twenty twenty three, and then he kind of has the there's been the comp to Lamar Jackson, but obviously kind of coming out.
Lamar Jackson has a little bit more.
Of the elusiveness, but his kind of he showcases arm talent this last year.
But he doesn't throw on the run every time the pocket breaks down. He just runs. He doesn't he doesn't run to buy time to make big plays downfield. He just runs. He drops his eyes and just goes every time.
Well, yeah, of work, good luck.
With that, Okay.
I like Jayden Danis as a quarterback prospect. I don't like him as the second pick overall personally.
Fair enough, and I'm not big on Drake Maye.
So would you like to announce? Would you like to be Elliott Wolf and announce yes?
Since you bantered on about Drake may I think maybe that's who we should go with. You should I I do think it's interesting that he's been working out with Philip Rivers, which is kind of an interesting really yes, which I which I think is smart because if you get with someone who's been in the NFL, there's a lot of things you don't know. You don't know what you don't know. And I think when uh, a quarterback like Philip Rivers who's been around a little bit, and you can say he was good, bad or indifferent. He was good, yeah, but but you know people had a knock on him too. You know the thing is is that they I think he shows him. You know, it's film work, it's the little it's the little things that make the big things happen. So I think that's where we're going with with Drake may And he's out in North Carolina in case you were wondering, yep.
Which means he's also been getting some instruction from former books QB coach Clyde Christensen.
Ok.
Guy, that's been given some instruction to some rather impressive qbs in the past, such as Peyton Manning, Tom.
Brady, Clyde's working with the All Pros.
Yes exactly, Okay, but yeah, I thought that was interesting. I think I also loved the story of how he originally was talking to Alabama, but you and Ce just never gave up, even after he essentially already committed to Alabama, and then they set up a meeting with Michael Jordan to woo him to you and see, let me tell you, set up a meeting with Michael Jordan. I think that's gonna woo a lot of people. Yeah, that was the trump chard that they played there, and I thought, I just thought that was a really cool story.
I'm a little surprised to hear that because it wasn't his whole family at one point or another athletic stars for North Carolina like his dad. Yeah, oh yeah, basketball player made a.
Huge I mean, I think if when it comes to football Alabama, if you've got that chance, it's hard to turn that down. But yeah, so he all ultimately ended up at you and c Michael Jordan with another win.
Interesting, okay, good pick, Jeff.
I like that one, Thank you, thank you very much.
I think New England got lucky to get Drake mayon three. I think had Drake May goane second, the Patriots probably would have listened to some phone calls about trading down to somebody like maybe the Raiders, who apparently loved Jayden Daniels.
You know, it's gonna be so interesting to see what the Patriots do because they are so famous for trading down and it's sort of been their bread and butter, and of course everyone knows that if you can trade down, it is kind of a great thing most of the time. But they need a quarterback so bad, and it's going to be interesting with so such a high praise QB class what they decide to do there, Like do they have their guys where they just say, if it's this guy, we do it, if it's this guy, we don't, or do they just stick with their you know, previous thoughts. But now, of course there's some different decision makers over there than recent so maybe maybe they just changed things.
Completely well, Jeff and I didn't listen to any phone calls once. Once Jane Daniels went second one, we knew we were going to do. We spread into the podium. I think like most teams, especially teams with the history of success, the Patriots probably assume they will it'll be a long time until they're picking in the top three again and have a chance that a franchise quarterback pick. So we did not listen.
One more thing about him, that's interesting. I saw this stat he has a thirty nine to four touchdown to interception ratio in the first half compared to twenty four to twelve in the second half. I thought that was interesting.
I like that.
Yep, I figured you wouldn't.
Well, we already turned the card in.
I know, sorry, just have done our homework alone. You gave us grief for our number two pick, so I just had to say that in there on you.
Well, yeah, he's a little unpolished.
Yeah yeah, but I mean.
It's every rookie QB for this part, and that's yeah.
There aren't a lot of Andrew lux to come along.
Right, And that was my thing with him.
The iron, the inconsistencies and a storring motion, like all of those things, they can be fixed. Yeah, I mean he has obviously the size, profile of the arm, talent, all of that, but I.
Just he's a question mark, which I mean a lot of them are.
Yes, I mean they what draft was it twenty twenty or twenty twenty one where they were five quarterbacks starting with Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence is decent. The other four have already been traded to another team, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, mac Jones, and one another that's not coming to mind right now. Okay, you guys are now on the clock for Arizona. Monty asen Fort calling the shots here.
Yes, Casey wide receiver Marvin Harrison.
Yes, thank you.
Shocking, right, I know, it's just shocking.
You listen to any phone calls, Monty.
Absolutely not get out of here with your phone calls.
We would like by the way, Yeah, you guys did we did this beforehand? Yes, And I tried to trade up to this spot.
And he said, you get you guys, get out of here. I mean, look, you gotta help Kyler Murray out if you're gonna continue to try this. And I loved how one of the descriptions I saw of Marvin Harrison Junior said basically, it's difficult. This was a quote I read it is difficult to discuss him without signing hyperbolic sounding hyperbolic, like when you talk about him, it just sounds like you're being over zealous.
Because there's no holes in.
It, which is what we just talked about. It feels like rookies, that's just not a thing typically that you always have things to say. Well, they got to get more polished on this. They got whatever. It's like, he's just ready, Like he's just incredible, the routes, the I mean, he's just everywhere on the field. He is one of the best prospects I feel like a wide receiver in recent times. So, I mean they've been looking to fill that Larry Fitzgerald void for a bit. The closest they got was the DeAndre Hopkins Park, but by the time he was there, he wasn't quite the same thing. And I just feel like Zona knows what it's like to have a Larry Fitzgerald and have missed it, and this could be their chance to do.
It all over again. Cardinals already have great dorch. I just love saying his name.
It's pretty great.
Yeah.
Okay, so you two were Mantias and Fort and John Jonathan Gannon right, that's her head coach name, right? Yes? Was there total agreement between the two of you on this one? Yes, didn't consider anybody else late neighbors. What did you like?
No, he I mean just kind of the the protoct typical once in a generation prospect. But I mean I think he's a guy that he makes the low percentage catches look effortless, and he has all of the things you want and wide receiver, whether it's the rout running, his ability to create separation, like the subtle movements, baiting guys.
I mean he has all the above.
Okay, cool, and saw the boxes. I thought it was interesting. Arizona has only drafted two wide receivers since twenty twenty, which is tied for the fewest in.
The league with US.
You know what, I didn't even see who they were tied with.
We have I saw no.
Since twenty twenty.
Yeah, you're right, it might be us. We have definitely invested the fewest draft assets at receiver. I saw this in a tweet since like twenty eighteen, like right after Chris got.
Yeah, I'd have to think this was just since twenty twenty. I'd have to go back and look at our stuff. Yeah there, Arizona obviously has not put a ton into this in recent years, and I think they need to.
Good. Okay, Jeff, we're on the clock for the Chargers and we have a trade we do. So you are right now. You're Minnesota GM Quesci Adolpho Mensa, and call me. I am Joe Hortiz in the first year on the job as the GM for the Chargers. Call now. They the the Vikings traded like a month ago and acquired a second first round pick number twenty three Houston. And I agree with everybody who assesses that as that was the beginning of stockpying ammunition in order to trade up. Okay, so call me and offer me picks eleven and twenty three. I like it, No, do it.
I'll give you picks eleven and twenty two.
Hey, hey, good, good talking to you again. Question. You didn't even say hello, you just jumped right into it.
We're on the clock, chat.
We've discussed this before, and so you're offering me eleven and twenty three.
You got it?
That's not enough, man?
Really?
Yeah? You're moving up for a quarterback, you have to pay a premium. So I want your eleven and your twenty three and a second round pick next year.
Oh yeah, I'm all in considering who I want.
All right, that's that's exactly right. That's exactly what we thought was gonna happen.
You sounded like Kevin Costner and drafting.
Yeah, I don't want no, I want three second round Do.
You think because I can?
Do you think there's really a lot of chit chat during that time. They're not saying, hey, how are you? I'm fine, how's it going? Yeah, that's not happening.
Well, they probably have already laid the groundwork. If they decide to make a trade, they already know what they've agreed upon. So but I just thought it'd be fun to have that phone.
Sure, I was a hell.
You know, there's probably a camera in the room, and you love seeing the GM pick up a phone and talking and put it down.
You just think they're acting.
They have to make the actual call.
Well, I know, but you know, is the call on the camera? Is it?
You know?
My favorite the COVID year and you had was it Bill Belichick.
That had the dog?
Yes?
He's making great and the Rams always have this fancy house that they draft from. So who are the Cardinals?
So who is Minnesota going for?
They trade up to get the quarterback of the future, having moved on from Kirk Cousins. Then, and that's Michigan quarterback JJ McCarthy.
I like that pick a lot, a lot.
You know. I don't think two months ago anybody would have expected McCarthy to go in the top five, but some teams have fallen in love with him. I think he's he's falling into a perfect situation. Kevin O'Connell is great with quarterbacks, and look at who his head coach was, Yeah, Harba, who loves him.
I thought it was funny that the comparisons for him are Kirk Cousins, and then you're talking about him going to Minnesota. They're just like, wait, we need a new one.
Slaps Kirk Cousins on the table at the store and says, give me another one of these. Yes, he's he starts right away with Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison and a good tight end whose name is Escaping Hockens. Hockinson is Hockinson, He's he's got a decent offensive line in front of him. It's a great situation, and not every quarterback falls into a great such situation, Like is it great situation for Jaydon Daniels in Washington? We'll see, but it looks awesome for Jajon McCarthy here. I think this is a win win for everybody.
School record career completion percentage and I love to see that. When you talk about again the decision making coming out of college, that's still one of the knocks against him. It's interesting he has such a high completion percentage, but people say that his decision making still needs to evolve, which I think is interesting. Typically those numbers don't go against each other like that. But I also love Harbor has called him the Iceman for the way he stays cool under pressure.
I love.
I'm like, that's such a horriball line.
Here's one, Maddy Ice, you can't somewhere, that's what brought it up.
It does seem kind of like a stronger and bigger Kirk Cousins, which has he's bigger a little bit.
Yeah, I didn't know he's bigger and Kirk Cousins, isn't that a small guy? No, he's not he's yeah, so it's good.
Onto the next pick. The clock ran out, all right.
For the good old New York Giants, we went with a another receiver, but this time with Malik Neighbors.
Yeah, because it couldn't be Marvin Harrison.
Yeah, because he exactly yeah, but went on kind of the same train, but big fan, and he he led the sec and receptions each of the previous two seasons, and he finished as ls US all time leader in receptions and receiving yards. But he's a guy that I just love what potentially he could do in the Giants offense, kind of become that gadget guy.
He's kind of a menace on the.
Jet sweeps their versus, but it's just kind of electric after the catch, that gliding agility.
So I'm big big Neighbors fan.
Yeah, dynamic, I mean, big playmaker. I always think that's a if you're going to take a wide receiver in the first round, to know it's a guy that can do some explosive plays, right, I think that's an I thought it was so interesting I saw quote that he said his favorite play in the playbook was the jet sweep, and I was like, that's fascinating. I don't feel like you hear a lot of wide receivers say that, probably, but just loves to be able to use the I mean, I don't know, just make some of those dynamic plays, get out and open field, accelerate, decelerate, I don't know, but yeah, I think it's interesting that also, the Giants, I mean, their offense finished last in past plays of ten yards or more and twenty ninth in offensive points, scored twenty seventh in yards per past attempt. So I think this is a reasonable reasonable choice to try to fix that, right.
That's because they were trying to play the season with like seven slot receivers. Yeah, and some Tommy DeVito is that his name? Yep, yep, So yes, he is somebody that the Giants have needed for a long time. Now. The question if any of those top four quarterbacks had been there, would you all have considered that?
That's tough, man.
I mean, it feels like there's only one year left on the Daniel Jones experience.
I agree, yeah, but I feel like this is a good way to like to figure that out. Give him a wide, give him like a dynamic talent, and recently they've invested a lot more in their offensive line. So I feel like, now it's like, okay, you've the pieces are align that. Now you get the wide receiver. Now if it still doesn't work, I think you have your answer.
Yeah. Well, so I think he's gonna have to be amazing for them not to move on. Right, But that's Daniel Jones I'm talking about, right, And.
I just feel like neighbors too, in the way that offenses are evolving with more of the horizontal stretch, the priest snot motion, all of that, and kind of what they're forcing defenses to do. I feel like he's a perfect mold the way that the NFL is going and what he's going to potentially be able to do.
I could see what I regard. I could see why a receiver would love a jet sweep because on most of their plays, whether they get the ball or not is somewhat out of their control. Sweep a little biteep, you know you're getting the ball.
Yeah, but he also did have He led the FBS with thirty four catches of twenty plus yards, so he definitely knows how to do some of that explosive play.
Actually, right, I love the pick. Okay, you're ran Carthon. Now, Jeff tell Us, who the Titans are picking.
Well, we're going to go with an offensive lineman.
Yeah, there's a lot of them. Yeah, Well this.
One's a good one. This is Joe Alt. And the reason why is I'm I'm kind of like John Lynch in this particular thing. I like bloodlines because his dad played thirteen seasons for the Giants. His dad's name's John.
He was great.
You know this kid's from Notre Dame, so you know he's a smart guy. Yeah, I just did know. Well that's because he went to Northwestern.
No doesn't.
Okay, I was trying to think.
I was like, I don't think their rifles. Yeah, Like I was trying figure it out.
I was born in Norman, Oklahoma, because my dad was a graduate student at University of Oklahoma. Okay, Oklahoma set the all time record for consecutive victories by an NCAA football team. They lost an Notre Dame one however, mean games it wasn't a row, and then lost a Notre Dame.
Oh no, I think that's called for life.
Yeah.
But anyways, we're going We're going to go with with with Josh.
Yeah, we have to Tennessee's number one need, by far is an offensive tackle, and I would say their number two need is probably another offensive tackle. Yes, they are barren and bereft at the position. Like this is, to me is the easiest pick in the entire year.
I don't think you can pass up what you believe is a good offensive line.
Right, and they get to take the first one on their board, right, which is incredible. Joe Walt is a left tackle, so they filled the more important one of the two right off the bat.
Right.
Last year's left tackle allowed twelve sacks.
And was that Petite or whatever.
Forgotten his name already Orre Dillard? Dillard Dillard was their left one of you guys.
One of the guys, right, Yeah, Yward was a failed guy in the that for the Eagles, a failed first rount pick for the Eagles. And then they signed it was a free agent like, oh, this should work. Did not work?
And then I mean they hired a new offensive line coach who's considered a really good one in the league. Like you can tell they're really realizing, like, we gotta gotta do something here.
Well, the the the d line, the old line coach they hired was is the father of the new head coach.
Yeah, Bill Calahan. Yeah famous, Yeah, very famous coach and the head coach.
Of the Oakland Raiders in the Super Bowl.
I like that. Joe All at one point in his football career when he was younger, has played quarterback, linebacker, d line, un tight end.
Yeah.
I love that.
Like that guy is gonna know, I'm telling you quarterback when he was like.
He he just loves the game.
Yeah, it's I love. I'm a big believer. In the same way I'm a multi sport supporter. I'm also a multi position supporter. Like when I found out Chris Godwin grew up playing offensive line. I'm like this all tracks like, I love this idea. So I love this idea that he's played all these things.
We already have two sons of former nflers because Marvin Harrison those two.
But yeah, my favorite thing I think I read on that pick is that it was suspiciously clear that.
He's going to be the pick for the Titans. Yes, it's like love Doug.
Yeah, Okay, So Atlanta and Terry funt Nollah on the clock. I tried again to make a trade up to this spot, but they did not want to move from it, So what did you do instead?
We went with good old edge in Dallas.
Turner Alabama, Alabama.
Yep, new Era.
Why is he the first board for them?
He he does kind of lack a little bit of the size for NFL standards, but he has that quickness off the ball, physical with the point of attack. Was the SEC twenty twenty three Devensive Player of the Year. The speed of power conversion and it's just kind of a guy that has those explosive trades that in the high upside that teams cove it.
So he was my first off the board.
Yeah.
I like that he's lined up in both the two and a three point stance. And it's also cool he apparently had kind of a mentor relationship with last year's first round pick Will Anderson Junior, and they're also best friends. And I always love when they have someone like that that's already gone to the league that can help. And I just know that this feels like a pick that specifically Raheem Morris would love and that how nice for him coming in as more of a defensive minded coach. That they have done such incredible work offensively in recent drafts, like they've done so many big splashy offensive spots, and that this has already been such an offensive heavy start to a draft. When you aren't necessarily in need of the big splashy type of offensive spots, you can go in for a premier edge guy like this and take whoever you want your first one to be.
Kind of amazing that they're picking this ten for the fourth year in a row.
I'm sure they don't love it, but it has some nice benefits for them.
So you didn't think for a minute that they might go, h, Kyle Pitts, what's.
The biggest rock Bowers?
Or oh oh, the last three picks Bejon Robinson last year. I can't think of the receiver's name right now anyway, Uh, and and Kyle Pitts the tight end, the receiver and the running back all on the top eight. And you're like, you didn't want to give him like romadonsay or anything.
Yeah, I mean that would have been just gluttonous. At this point, I feel like after what they've done, and I mean and they and then they also added Kirk Couzins, it's like you've done all the things, You've done all the offensive things, so let's let's make a big defensive spot.
They get the very first defensive player off the board, and they've been searching for edge rush, you know, juice for a long time now, so it makes a lot of sense, all right. At number nine, the Bears are ecstatic that they not only get their quarterback of the future, but they get one of the big three receivers in Roma Duns from Washington. There's a lot of disagreement out there in the mock draft or the NFL draft analyst community about you know, his neighbors the second best or is a donsday at the second best? So you get him at nine. I think it's a home run for the Bears.
You like to pick Jeff yes, and time will tell who's right on it.
So, just a couple of years ago, the Bears had one of the worst wide receiver rooms in the league. Now they have Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, DJ Moore and then Roman Doonsay.
That's nice and considering I do feel like a Doonsay would be in any other draft number one on it, Like that's one of those things where this is such a deep wide receiver group here at the top to feel like a lot of drafts. I always feel like you've got to be frustrated when you're picking that high and you're not getting the first of a position, that's got to just be really frustrating. But this year it's like, man, this guy any.
Other year, but we're fine with it. Yeah, good point. All right, you guys are up. Joe Douglas of the Jets is on the clock. It's your two of the Aaron Rodgers experience.
Yes, we'll be ready for the fifth play of his career. So yes, tightened brock Bowers from Georgia to further the all in Aaron Rodgers experience. I mean, he's just I mean, when his comparison is George Kittle, how do you not want that for a guy like Aaron Rodgers. Big time pass catcher, good skills and just could really be such a star if he lands with the right kind of quarterback and play caller and all of that. But of course it's like, yeah, this is the whole point is that they're trying to go all in with Rogers, and so some people say, like, oh, man, do you want to take a tight end that's high end a draft, that's a lot. But I think that when they know like this is this may be it? Who cares where you're taking him? If you feel like this is the piece that could put you over the edge, that you just if you look at their free agency signings, like you can just tell they're all everything is to design to help Rogers this year. And you're signing Tyrone Smith and you're John Simpson trading for Morgan Moses. You're trying to boost your offensive line. Mike Williams signed as a freegent to upgrade the receiver group. So if you're all in, why not even if it is a little high for a tight end? Who cares?
Can I play a little Devil's advocate here.
And then I'm going to come back against you?
But I love block Bowers, I love Black Barers, and not saying anything about Brock Powers, but you know what George Kittle was, He was a fifth round draft pick. We're talking about positional value here, and you want to hear some of the last recent first round picks at tight ends, Hayden Hurst, oj Howard, Evan Ingram, David Joku, Eric Ebron, Tyler, eiferd Jermaine Gresham, Brandon Pettigrew, Dustin Keller.
So my pushback on it, and I agree with you.
I agree with you.
But typically if you are getting taken in the first round like high as a Titan, you might be going to a team that doesn't have great stuff around you, like it doesn't have the quarterback or it doesn't have you know, for him to get to go to a team that hasn't Aaron Rodgers might be very different than some of those other situations.
Yeah, like Hayden Hurst with Lamar Jackson minus that.
But yeah, I agree, I mean I think it is. In any other situation, i'd say, yeah, it's too high. But again, if you're all in, I'm just kind of like, you.
Know, yeah, I get it well.
And for me, it's when you look at what he's going to be able to do, like he's another chess piece for Nathaniel Hackett, but also he's great with kind of the the quick touches which can help protect Aaron Rodgers, you know, where you're not having the prolonged dropbacks. But also just his ability to kind of create the mismatches, the ability against safeties, against linebackers, and just his skill set as a whole.
I think he's gonna make a really, really big impact. For New York.
Yeah, because Titan rookie Titans always have huge impacts. You guys made a point. You made the exact point that that the GM, the GM, Joe Douglas, and the head coach are all in because if they don't win this year, they could be gone and you draft a player at a position who where they rarely make big impacts as a rookie.
But I will say I think traditionally in the past they haven't had as much success because at the college ranks they're tweeted is either essentially like an extension of the offensive line or a glorified big slot receiver.
They're either one or the other.
But now and then, of course in the NFL, you're asked to do all of the above, and you have a lot more on your plate.
You're looking at a lot more things.
You're looking at protections, you're looking at routes.
But now they're coming in having a better understanding and framework to work off of.
At the NFL level. I think Scott thinks you just made his point. I think she's saying that recently, that's true. We need to move on. We're aly ten picks.
You know, they signed two tackles. This is one of the best tackle drafts in a long time. They signed two tackles who are notably injury or prone, and there's no way that those two guys, Tyron Smith and Morgan Moses are gonna make it to the season.
Oh definitely not. I saw Tyrone Smith many years in Dallas.
Jeff try we got to move on the Chargers after moving down to eleven. I led this pick here because it's not really what you normally see. You usually see them taking a tackle or a wide receiver. But I think teams are in love with Byron Murphy, the defensive lineman from Texas. And if you look around the league at the best defensive lineman, which defensive tackles essentially, they're hard to find and they almost always come from the first round, right, and this is considered the best one out there. It's a big part of the need for the Chargers, and Jim Harbaugh loves the trenches. He could take a tackle here, of course, but they have another pick later in the round. I think they go for the blue chip at this position.
Yeah, and they hopefully he'll be there because their memory Ports of Chicago Bears really like this kid. That they like him a lot, and so again that's where the drafts kind of who if he's available, this is who they're going to take. But that's a niff.
Yeah. No, I don't see him commonly pair with him, and you're right, his stock is going through the roof least recently. Yeah, which I think is everybody outside of the teams realizing how important teams value that position and how much they like this guy. Yeah.
He was recently named a dark Worse to go in the top ten. So yeah, and.
It seems like he is going to be talented against both the pass and the run, which again, you know, I remember we talked about this so much with Collija last year. Did people think he could do both? To have a defensive lineman? You feel strongly about being able to do both. But I will say it's going to be interesting to see if the charters. This is my one thing is I feel like they would want one of these wide receivers.
Yeah. Okay, and spoiler at the good point, very good point. Spoiler alert. I didn't mean to cut you off, but they have two. They traded down at two picks and we made both of them. Jeff and I and afterwards, I'm like, how did we come away from this draft without a receiver?
Without a receiver?
Yeah, that's my fault draft.
No, that's fine.
I was literally thinking that last night as I was looking at this, and I don't know how I did that. I mean, I like the two players we got, but how did they know there's some good receivers left? But there's not you know, the Kreamly crop is correct?
Correct? Okay, we went through the top ten. We've done really really well. Now we're going to pick up the pace.
Right, we've done eleven picks.
Okay, well, no, but the top ten there's a little more detail to it as you go along.
So now we can try let's do the next four in rapid order. So Denver George.
Peyton is on the yes, and we did Okay, I.
Didn't pick this guy because I didn't want to pronounce his name.
Yeah, thank you. So it's tally essay, I think.
So, okay, Well that's what sure, that's what we're going to go go with. And there is kind of the no, there is kind of the notion of a potential trade up for a quarterback with Bo Nix or Michael Pinnix. But I'm not really convinced that after McCarthy you're going to have another quarterback go in the first round. So I'm going with well.
And they just one signed Zach Wilson.
I mean too too.
They were ready. What is it? Let's ride Jared, Jared stim Zach Wilson and Ben de Nucci.
Whoever you have there, you need to give him a better line. You might as well. I mean my philosophy, as always, any quarterback can make a throw if given time, so I believe in the tackle part.
All right. Tom Telesco gets fired by the Chargers and is immediately hired by the Raiders. So he's on the clock here, Jeff, who does he take? Sorry, I'll announce it. Thirteen thirteen cornerback?
Go ahead, Mitchell.
So where the Falcons got their their number one edge rusher and the Chargers got their number one interior defensive lineman. The Raiders get the because this is such an offensive, top heavy draft, they get the first cornerback off the FOURD at thirteen, which rarely happens. The first cornerback almost always goes in the top ten, right, and I think that's a position of need for them. It's kind of easy. This was an easy one for them.
Well yeah, but everybody's looking for a corner, so always.
This is going to be interesting because he does just I mean, most productive defensive back in their school's history. He's got all sorts of ball skills and athleticism and you know, forty three passes defensed and six interceptions over the last twenty seven games as wild great production, but struggled a bit when played some tougher competition like Ohio States. Whenever you see a school like Toledo, that's a joys kind of wonder. Is like college to pro is always a jump.
Yeah, you know, so I hear you, but I.
Think, I know, I still agree with you. I think it's a it's a great pick.
I think what made teams feel better about it is he dominated against that type of competition at the Senior Bowl.
Yeah, since the Senior Bowl seems to be a game changer for a lot of.
It's huge for small school right well and sort of like for us with Jamal Dean. He also has what a lot of people don't, which is their recovery speed in a four three three.
At the combine.
So that's also a big thing to that.
That's where the Bucks started to fall in love with a Yeah of Hobart College. We know how that worked out. Okay, Now on the clock in New Orleans, we hope they get a terrible player, Mickey Loomis.
Unfortunately, it seems like they don't get a terrible player. It seems like they get a tackle Olu Fashanu. Yes, the emphasis is on the wrong slab from Penn State. I mean, he's I think gonna be a little bit of a work in progress as a run blocker, but pass protection phenomenal. And look, poor Derek Carr. Look it far be it for me to have sympathy for anything related to the Saints, obviously, but poor Derek Carr got absolutely destroyed last year, got just pounded into the turf many a time. They've got to give him some more protection. They don't have a true starter right now at either tackle position, so you gotta they gotta do it.
And for me, what's so impression like impressive about him? Is obviously a technician, but he finished his collusion career with zero sacks allowed on seven hundred and thirty three pass blocking snaps over twenty nine games.
That's incredibly impressive.
I mean zero that's a good number.
Yeah, yeah, I mean that sounds great.
You know, if you ever want zero to be a good.
Number, that's the one.
Yep.
Yes, well that's yeah. It's unfortunately a good pick, and they they're right tackle Ryan Ramschick may not play this year. Trefor Pinning hasn't really worked out yet, so it's it's one of the easier pairings. Yep. Earlier, when you guys were talking about Byron Murphy being a dark horse for a top ten pick, I wanted to go off on a tangent about how that song by Katy Perry makes no sense at all but Jeff one system.
Of Oh but I want this tangent though that stuffs I need this after this.
People want to Katy Perry tank show.
Yeah, after show, so indian to walk off. Chris Ballard and Indianapolis are on the clock. They kind of were hoping rock Powers would fall here. He didn't because the Jets made a rash decision, and so they go with the second cornerback on their board. Alabama's Terry and Arnold. They need a corner.
I'm all in good from Alabama? How bad can you the first of two? Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, they surrendered way too many big plays last year twenty third in both yards per pass attempt allowed and in pass breakups. So they need a playmaking guy and he's got Yeah, he's got the ball skills, got some cover athleticism, five interceptions, twelve passes defense the twenty twenty three Yeah, and I think you can work inside or outside, which is always nice too if you're going to spend a high draft pick on a corner, to know you could use it wherever.
On the Colts current depth chart, one of their two starting corners is a undrafted freezer from a couple of years ago, the named Dallas Flowers.
Yeah they struggled, Yeah, they struggled big time.
All right. The Chargers, Now this is actually our pick again because of the trade the Chargers. We have another trade now. The Chargers traded back up from twenty three to sixteen. They gave Seattle, who loves to trade back, They gave him a third this year, which we looked at the chart and the difference in the values of the picks is almost was pick number seventy and this is pick number sixty nine. But usually have to pay a little bit more to move up that many spots in the first round, so they also gave a third round pick next year, So two third round picks for the Chargers to move back up to sixteen, where they probably should have taken a wide receiver in retrospect, but I knew they needed a right tackle. They're set at left tackle because they have one of Northwestern's finest at Rashawn Slater, on that side, but they really need a right tackle. I love Hmarius Mems. I think he's obviously raw. He's only started eight games in college.
I find that fascinating that with all the research with drafts that we do that, like this guy has got so few snaps on samples. Yeah, we're just making I mean, these decisions are so big for these franchises.
But he made the best of his snaps.
Yeah.
So he's huge yeah, well, and moves like.
He's not huge.
Yeah, six eight three forty stand you don't have to do anything, just be in the way.
Try to go around me.
Weight fi yeah, extremely.
Wingspan, good wingspan.
Yeah.
Yeah. He's obviously a little rare than some of these other prospects. And jac Latham might have been a consideration there. He's also right tackle. But I went with the maybe bigger upside.
No, I'm with you, and if you hit on old linemen, then you can have a so so quarterback and still do well.
He also allows zero sacks. Now this was only again. Also zero that's what I want to put on my life social media profile. Zero sacks a lot.
But see the difference is you have zero games.
Yeah, that's that's the kind of Yeah, you guys got that right though.
The joke, Yeah, okay, hilarious.
We're back on the clock again with Trent Balk of Jacksonville and they go with a cornerback another position need for them as well, and we went with the very versatile Cooper de Gene of Iowa. He might be able to play several positions, yeah for them. He might play safety, he could play slot. But there's plenty of scouts to believe he can stick. I don't know.
There's something about going to Jacksonville that things just don't go right, no matter where you're picked, and no matter what. I don't know what it is.
So, you know, he seems I like him. I like him too.
Everybody likes the Army and eye for the Hawk guys, but.
Once they get there, things don't go so well.
He allowed only one catch of fifteen plus yards in twenty twenty three. But it's not zero, yeah, zero, He did play some games. Yeah. I think also the fact that he's got the special team's potential and the fact it seems like he could do corner safety, nickel, all the things, which again you love high.
But that whole special teams thing is going to change.
I think that it values it more though.
Well yes, and that's that's going to be.
Because now you need multiple returners or you.
Need correct and it's going to be the first year and then I think next year when you see the draft, you're going to start seeing people focusing more on people who can also play special team.
Right. But I think the thing with him too is that he's solid against the run.
He takes the effective pursuit angles.
He's not a guy that okay, well we know he's not going to be quite as good against the run, so we can just consistently target him.
He's a guy that is going to be a physical tackler.
So yeah, it'll be interesting to see. I mean, Jacksonville, they've got a new defensive coordinator, so you always wonder what they're going to do. What is that going to look like because Iowa did play mainly zone, and so to see how does that translate if they're taking him like, how much zone are they playing? How much man? And then how do they feel like that translate?
Right?
And the Jaguars they don't have Darius Williams anymore, so they really only have one starting corner, which he's pretty good.
Is that enough, Scott?
Is that enough corners?
Never enough corners, particularly when there's only one.
I mean, the other guy. The guys in the depth chart here might argue with me, but I've never heard of them so well.
They might not have heard of you either.
In fairness, all right, that's three picks in a row for us. But now you guys are back on the clock for the Cincinnati.
Bengals and they don't necessarily need to tackle with their book gets in place. But Trent Brown has only played a full season once in the last five years and just as yes, not great so. And Latham's the guy that you know is stout and pass protection, the unique blend of massive power, smooth and transition.
It's a guy that I think will really bolster their line. Yep.
I think they want to keep Joe Burrow healthy. Yeah, I think keep him upright in the book there are just the way you feel about corners is almost how I feel about offensive lineman.
That's fair.
You just cannot have enough. It isn't gonna be interesting too. He's lost a little bit of weight ahead of the draft. He was playing at six six three sixty but he says he's lost like twenty five pounds or so, So that'll be interesting to see. And he's recovering from that injury at the end of Rose Bowl. But I think he seems good to go. But yeah, I think that'll be interesting to see. But I'm a big fan of keep Joe Burrow upright. NFL is more fun to watch in Joe Burrow, I.
Was upright, very true.
Yeah, their Super Bowl windows probably still open, so probably well, as Joe Burr would say, it's always open when he's.
There, exactly when he's upright.
Hey, jac lith the only thing here, and I love to pick. His stock seems to be rising. I've heard him listed as potentially even somebody if they want, if whoever takes the first tackle wants a right tackle, they might go with Latham over Joe Walt. So like if the Chargers went tackle. Maybe they go Latham. Anyway, his stock appears to be on the rise. But if he's there, I think it's a home run for them. Yep, all right, Jeff, you're less Sneed. Now for the Rams picking in the first time.
I was gonna say, Man, we haven't said this in years.
You know when the last time the Rams picked in the first round was, Jeff.
Oh what five six years ago?
Oh?
Then it's been a minute.
I'm thinking about this that I mean, I want to say it might be twenty seventeen, sixty sixteenth. I went back and forth between the two.
Jared Goff last time in life.
That's what I was trying to remember, is when he was drafted and I couldn't come up with the year were very close.
It's crazy, it's it's you know that what they won a Super Bowl during that time. So I guess as.
Lesneed has said, FM picks Yeah on coffee mug that says that that someone bought him this coffee mug. That says that because he's he said that multiple times. Yeah, this wasn't me making this up the record show.
The funny thing about that, though, is in terms of bulk the Rams have made a ton of picks. Yes, they've often been third, fourth, fifth, six rounds and they've hit on a number of those, which is how they done.
They just had plans on those Thursdays for a lot of years and they were just like, look, we we really don't like having to work the draft three days.
You need to wash my hair on yes, yeah.
So what what is lesnid gonna do in his first first round pick?
They just have an intern in there marking off the picks on Thursday night.
Yeah, while they're all out hanging out all right.
Jeff Okay, I'm not sure how to say his first time jews On.
I think it's jers On, but they also call him Johnny.
Johnny Johnny Newton. He's six y one, three hundred pounds, which isn't exactly the biggest guy, but he has great quickness.
So I don't know if you have ever heard of a guy named Aaron Donald, but he was also said to not have the greatest size but had some quickness. So I feel like, I love that you guys have the rams just immediately being like, we would like another Aaron Donald please, yep. And I can't imagine the pressure for this guy if this is who they take.
You can tell him you're coming. We don't expect to be Aaron Donald. Your best job.
He gets off pass rushers, He gets off the block really quick. He likes to win by his hands on the blocker uses a push and bowl method. Well, yeah, I think he's going to be. Okay, they did, and they need to do something because you know who retired.
Yeah, and they did hit last year with a later round pick.
In Kobe Turner. Yeah, he had seven and a half sacks and fifty two total tackles, which is not bad at all for the eighty ninth pick in the draft. So if you pair these two guys together, So he tied the mark for I'm sorry, I was say jers On Newton's those were his stats. Kobe tied the mark for sacks that Aaron Donald said in his rookie year with nine nine sacks his rookie year as the eighty ninth pick. So to pair these two guys together would be right. I think the Rams have learned having a scary defensive line very handy.
I love when we make a pick and then Casey and retells how great.
Well, no, I mean he's appreciate it.
He's known as the most nuanced pass rusher in the class, and he had one hundred and three pressures over the previous two seasons, the most by any FBS interior alignment.
All right, moving to pick twenty? Pick twenty? Are you doing okay now? Jeff? Yeah? Pick?
Yeah, we picked it up.
Okay, so keep going now, Pittsburg Omar Khan Casey guard Graham Barton from Duke played left tackle and center in college.
Seems to be valued a little bit more at center, but could play all the interior some versatility. The Steelers, you know, they've got some veteran guards they've added recently, but no center since they cut their former starter. So this is just a.
Big old need pick stick them right in there.
Yep, shove that center spot. There we go.
Yep.
I like to pick a lot, all right? Is that enough? Do you have more?
No?
That's more.
Braham Barton another guy that has commonly been mocked to the I think you might have even done that one time.
I did?
Yes, okay, I did.
Jeff, You and I are Chris Greer for Miami. Man, he's been there a long time. Yeah, who does Chris want?
He wants a wide receiver. He once one really bad and Brian Thomas l s U.
This was I was the driving force on this pick, and I don't feel like it's something you commonly see. Miami often takes an interior defensive lineman, but both of those guys were gone. They could use offensive line help. But what else does Miami like?
They love speed and he's a four three three.
Yeah, this just feels unfair, Like, I mean, good grief, like you have hill and waddle, like leave some for the rest.
Of Yeah, but you got to have someone to take a break, you know, when they run that fast, they got to say, but you don't miss anything.
Yeah, yeah, And I think it's uh. They might address the trenches unless they feel like the wide receiver classes just too good to pass up. I feel like Miami, specifically, their GM is the best player guy that they apparently his philosophy is to address every position of need and free agency in some way so that the draft can just be whoever make whoever floats your bouth the most in that moment. And obviously they've seen that it's pretty fun to have those kind of speedy wide receivers, So let's.
Just throw an outher the one and then wide receivers are so speedy the offensive linemen don't need to block as long.
Well, I mean, are you're not making a joke right now? That's actually true. The amazing thing I like how you.
Say you're not making this I thought you were at first.
But the amazing thing about the Miami offense when it's working as it's supposed to is they get downfield depth of target, but they do do it so much faster. So usually your quarterback you don't have both downfield depth of target leading the league in that and also quick getting rid of the wall, those two things. But they're so fast you have both. And now you have Brian Thomas who was almost as fast as the record setting Xavier Worthy, right, so it was maybe his an electric pick, but I just couldn't pass it up.
All right, you guys, they're about luxury.
And then Eagles. We took Nate Wiggins.
Love this guy, and he's randomly kind of been linked to the Bucks in recent mocks as well.
But the Eagles have not taken a corner in the first.
Round since you know it is Ledo Shepherd in two thousand and two.
Two.
But they're gonna bolster the back end, But I just he's the guy. And again, absolutely huge fan of this guy his tape. But the twenty twenty three matchup against Star.
Hills, this is a guy.
He raced sixty four yards downfield and forced to fumble at the goal line punching the ball. A guy that kind of like we've seen over yeah, and one field just can single handedly change the course of the game. Only allowed one catch of twenty plus yards on forty one targets last season, smoothing out of breaks urgency.
You really like this guy, and Eagles surrendered the second most passing yards in the NFL last season.
Ye, so yeah, yeah, so.
Yes, yeah, and he which is nice. He would get to develop behind Darius Lay James Bradbury Like, that's great when you get a chance to learn behind guys like that. But you know that it's like you probably are gonna have to look at the future a little bit coming out.
Good pick. Okay, you guys are back on the clock because this was Seattle's pick originally at sixteen.
So yes, we have them taking tackle Troy Fountain.
I didn't want to. I heard you, just yeah.
What I said, totally what I said. So I mean, look, they lost multiple starters on the line in free agency, and I love this. He played for their offensive coordinator and o line coach in college. I mean, talk about some nice consistency there. That's very handy out of Washington.
So cool.
Yeah, I think that this feels like such a perfect fit for all parties involved.
So John Schneider moves down like he always does and still gets his.
Man and he's played tackle and guard.
So yeah, that's right, one of these guys that is considering and they could use a little correct So you get him in the building and figure out what what the best companies a tweener and you another a third pick and roll for y'all for the Cowboys.
Yes, and I'm not gonna lie I was.
I was pained to take Jackson Powis Johnson for Dallas because that takes him off the board potentially, because I also love him for for us, and I think he plays with kind of the demeanor the tenacity that Jason Lytt obviously loves in his offensive lineman.
But Cowboys have a hole at center and it left tackle.
But Tyler Biadis, who kind of manned that post for them for the majority of the last three seasons is now gone, but he's just kind of a He won the became the fifth unanimous All American selection in school history. Just plays with kind of that same Iriy disposition as the Ryan Jensen here here with us, but just kind of moves defenders back, powerful upper body, excellent initial quickness, like finishing mentality, immense power, smooth footwork, checks all the boxes.
Heavy anchor. Love love this pick for the Cowboys.
I concur Okay, I could say more, but I feel like she covered.
It and they just lost their center.
Yes, Smith, they just needed alignment in general, and especially if like look, if you are investing depending on what all the contract stuff happens, like you are, are you going to invest in your wide receiver, your quarterback, all these people long term? Like again, you can never have too many offensives.
Well, and they have a solid history of hitting on the offensive lineman, whether it's Zach.
Martin, Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith, yea.
If their name is Smith. Drafted, I'm surprised they evert drafted.
You, Scott.
I didn't declare, did you tell them you at Zero's accent?
Actually, Okay, so now we're Jeff and I. This was one of the ones we struggled with the most Green Bay. When we got here, just there wasn't an obvious pick. Eventually just decided cornerback was an area of need for them, and with Obama's kol Aid and McKinstry, it was one of my It was one of our least like sure picks. I just didn't know what to do here. Did you like this picture?
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Look at it.
If you're going by kool Aid, I'm all in.
That's fair.
Yeah, it's very You know the original kool Aid commercial.
It was kool Aid.
Kool Aid tastes great, kool Aid. Kool Aid can't wait.
If they don't announce that, I'm all in.
And if he doesn't, and he doesn't, if he doesn't bust through a wall, a cheese wall, you know, go through the cheese, a brick of cheese and go through it, I mean he's I'm all in on this guy.
I wouldn't mind a cheese wall.
There you go.
I mean, I think I need that in my life, to be honest, what kind though, I'm not gonna lie. I'm I'm a cheese connoisseur. So I want all of the above. I want pepper Jack, I want Guda, I want Havardi, I want mozzarella, I want cheese.
Brew did you obviously obviously you say that first.
If I'm running through a brick wall, I want.
Swiss, but I want Yeah, I just want all.
Of the the cheese.
She ran through it.
You went to how did the charco board the other night?
My god, it was absolutely stupendous.
But the really, the really not great thing, though, is that now I have an infinity of cheese in my fridge and an abundance of crackers. That sounds not a problem at all, but it's fine.
That sounds like a murder of crows a flock of cheese. All right, So now what we've all been waiting for. Jason Light and the Buccaneers are on the clock.
Gladness is in my pick.
Go ahead, b all right, Aim and I I had you struggled.
I did struggle, but not because she didn't. There were you got there were more options here than you expected.
Yes, yes, I so you had to Latsu is still there. And you also had Jared Verse and I debated for a long time, didn't know which run Yes, Anton Robinson, but I ended up going with Jared Verse, Who's regarded and kind of touted as one of the most explosive of the twenty twenty four class. But I think he's a guy that would just his demeanor, the way that he plays the power of the technique. I think he's a really good fit for Todd Bowles his penetrating attack ODDS system. But also he has experience lining up inside as well to kind of shoot gaps against the guard, which I think would be great in our complex system, because you know, Todd Bowles is going to have him doing a variety of things, but well timed.
First step.
He had sixty two pressures in twenty twenty three, the fifth most among edge players for PFF. But man like hillacious bull rush, the speed of power conversion, driving offensive tackles back.
I think he's just the guy that kind of fits fits the bill of what our brass looks for.
And and you just we need more sacks coming from the edge that when Bulls first got here. It's interesting there have been almost the exact same number of sacks for our defense every single year Bulls has been here. It's just where they're coming from. So what I love is it is incredibly impressive. He's been able to manufacture sacks in any way necessary. But you know how much easier his life is, and the whole defense's life is if they're coming from the edge, and if they're coming from then you're only maybe rushing for that. That's the thing where instead of having to rush as many or sent all these other blitz is, he can still do that on top of it. But to have an edge rusher and he had verse had nine sacks in each of his two Florida State seasons. So I'm like, give me a guy that is going to consistently get some pressure, get some sacks, and then man, you're also still sending antoine, You're also still doing all these other things. But to get more consistency out of that edge position is massive.
Yeah, it could be a three down presence.
And we've done pretty well picking Florida State players. So that's all I got to say.
And he doesn't have to go as far, you know.
I I love it, obviously, and it was tough choosing between him and lat too right and maybe a struggle, but I really, I really wish that Brian Thomas had fallen to the Buccaneers. You know why, because we love players whose last name is a very common person name.
It's not the way I saw that going.
David Jamel, Dean wo Servase, Dennis Randy, Gregory, Keenan Isaac, Anthony Nelson, J J. Russell.
Wow, Wow, Thomas's mind is and.
I'm not even counting maybe fringier ones like rakeem Jarrett or Sean Tucker. Yeah, we love those guys.
Kind of up there with a little the little donut whole thing.
I don't remember the donut whole thing.
The donut holes are the holes that are missing out of the center of donuts.
Yes, yes, yeah, I did not.
Let's move on.
No, no, no, this is no.
I always was under the impression that there was like a template or you made it into a round circle. I didn't realize that they made it into essentially a ball and then you punched out the I just thought they made it.
Understand Yes, yeah, I understand.
But I'm like, well, now, no, wonder in you know, middle school, high school, they just gave out like ridiculous amount of free bags of donut holes. You're just take the donut holes, and I'm like, well, let's makes sense.
Now, that's not how they make donut holes. Yeah, no, they don't make a solid donut and then punch out in the hole. They do make donuts as a circle with a hole in the middle, lest forgeting it, like jelly donuts and ones custard and stuff in them.
So they do make the donut hole separate.
Yes, does the donut of the round?
I was right, Jeff.
We have to move on our kid in high school.
Man, All right, uh Buffalo Brandon Bean, No, no, no, I've skipped a pick.
I'm sidetracked now, you guys, Jeff, get re engaged here.
Yeah, I'm sorry. I got lost. I don't know whole story.
That's why.
Dang, I'm really mad.
Now, Old Rusher, you can you can never go wrong.
I love a lot too. Yeah from U C l A.
So you call him l L I guess you could cool j cool Jay.
So the Cardinals walk out of this draft with Marvin Harrison and Layatu Latu and the beginning they'll beginning. I know we said you can't grade draft picks until three years, olter, but everybody does it anyway. They'll be walking out with an A on Thursday night.
Yeah, I think, I think so, Yes, I agree.
I also love this is a funny thing. We're I'm doing it right now. But when somebody's writing a mock draft and they say they make a pick, and they say, uh, the GM did a great job there to get this, you're complimenting yourself. Yeah, you're the GM right now, you're like, great job by money. I's sufford to get these two play.
And if you don't pick the picks I made, you are.
You're an idiot?
Yeah, all right, in the next Brandon mean Buffalo, this is an easy one.
Yeah, wide receiver ad and I Mitchell from Texas. Look, obviously the Bills need a wide receiver.
And is that a dig?
Oh my gosh, I see what you did there. That was good. So this is their biggest roster shake up since twenty nineteen. Yeah, and there's only thirty three players who were either on their fifty three man rostered end of the year or on in season and drew reserve. So you get rid of you know, trade away to Stephan Diggs, gave Davis left in free agency, like obviously, yeah, they just they need a lot of guys, a lot of guys. He won back to back national championships with Georgia and transferred to Texas before this season, caught four touchdowns in four college football playoff games. To me, all of that is like he knows how to play in the big moments, which is something obviously the Bills are wanting to do. But as long as they have Josh Allen their thing that this is a big moment kind of team. And also I thought this is interesting. I would love to see if they're going to trade up for whatever wide receiver that they want.
They could do that.
I can see that too because their GM has traded up eight times in six drafts.
Wow, I didn't know this.
Four times in the first round. That's pretty wild.
One of those was with the Bucks. Yeah, they traded up for Josh all twelve to seven.
So I can see where they would do. But either way, I'm like, I feel like they're taking a wide receiver. I just feel like I don't care where they're picking. That feels like what they're going to take. It's just do they do it at twenty eight? Do they trade up? What's the what's the thought there? But yes, that's our that's our path.
He's kind of an ad They also came ad Mitchell. He's kind of a divisive guy among the scouts. Because he's obviously got a lot of talent, and you cited some numbers there, but overall his production did not really level up to what was expected from his talent. But you know, you get to the next level, you get in a different situation and hopefully works out all right. Detroit, Brad Holmes thrilled to see Chop Robinson there. Chop Robinson probably this ad rusher from Penn State, one of the most athletic guys out there. Again, the production maybe didn't blow anybody away, but it's kind of like Javon Walker for the Jaguars a couple of years ago, something that was just because of the way he was used in The Lions think they can get more of them and have a book in for their great O.
Yes, I was, I had to add.
I literally wrote this down, so I didn't remember.
But as we were making this, I said that Dan Campbell would be licking his chops said on this pick, and I didn't even realize that it was a pun when I said it, so I had to had to add that in.
You gotta pretend like you knew whenever it's a pun like that, you always got.
To pretend, I said, intends like I didn't even.
Did I actually didn't.
Yeah, I'm speechless.
I think I just am amazed at the idea of this pick. Like as you talk about value pick for positions. I know we had the whole debate about tight end earlier. Like to get a potentially elite edge at twenty nine has got to just make a team thrilled.
Yeah, we were. We were surprised the way that fell out because a lot of the mocks that I've done myself, there was none of these guys were left when the Bucks picked. So it just the way it happened. But maybe that'll happen.
Yeah, I mean to pair this guy with Aiden Hutchinson.
Yeah, you're going to Detroit right now? Yeah, what a time to go to Detroit. Yeah yeah, I mean there's nothing but plus sides there. If they can stay healthy, you know, that's going to be the key for them. But I like to pick. And besides, can you imagine all the marketing things you can do with that name chopped?
Do you know where it came from? No, he was eleven pounds when he was born, so they nicknamed him pork.
Chop, But chop sounds better from a football standpoint. Yeah, Scott made the point on Insider that if he'd been an offensive lineman, he'd still be pork chops. Yeah, it's interesting because I feel like some of the people criticized Aiden Hutchinson before you got draft for not having the sack numbers you would have thought for someone getting drafted that high and chop Robinson. Also, you know, he only had four sacks last year five and a half the year prior to that. But if you go by like win rate and some of the things that, like, he's thirteenth best in all of college football laus year. So even though the sack numbers may not be there, it feels like a guy.
That can rent.
And that's always what they talk about, that sack numbers can be misleading, you know what all goes on. So yeah, I feel like he's going to be And again, if he does get paired with Aiden Hutchinson, I feel like that's gonna be pretty dangerous.
Well, and he can he forces quarterbacks to speed up their internal processing with his acceleration and yeah, collapsing the pocket and could potentially create opportunities for one of the other guys on that.
All right, we're near the end here. Baltimore and Eric Tacosta. The Ravens generally seem to just sit where they are and let the players follow them and take the best one available, and it always seems to work out for them. So who's the next one?
The Ravens go with Tyler Geyiton, Oklahoma.
Another tackle.
Yes, it's kind of a freak athlete for a three hundred and twenty eight pound man, but he's nimble, feet quick, excellent on lead blox. It's one of the quickest at the position in the class, nimble mover, fluid hips, rare first step. So I think his movement skills would be a big upside for the Ravens.
Yeah, six foot seven is yeah, pretty great enough, set, good profile, yep, absolute.
Road but still still someway. You know, the scouting impart of his ease. He's a little raw right right, but talented and huge yes.
Oh oh, can't coach quick, Yeah, can't coach that.
Coach height all.
Right, Jeff, you are John Lynch and you've got your Hall of Fame jacket on. Yeah, so you're forty in Aripolo, but secretly a Bucks T shirt underneath.
Yes, always forever. Jordan Morgan, Arizona.
Yeah, a tackle some people think you might play guard, but that's okay because they have a little bit of a need at bowl spots. So get him in, like I said before, get him in the building and see where it works.
Yeah, and again an old lineman, you got to you gotta like it. The other side of the coin is if he's a leader, he'll be known as Captain Morgan.
Okay, that's already worth it obviously.
And donut holes the official meal of the.
I would eat that. So I also saw that he's one of only six offensive linemen to run the ten yards split as fast as he did at three hundred and ten plus pounds since nineteen ninety nine at the combine.
So so he'd become pulling places.
So yeah, I got that quick.
He's pretty fast. His four yard was five to four.
Tens, a lot more than when it comes to lineman.
But his vertical is twenty eight.
Oh okay, that's pretty strong.
His arms are thirty two seven eighth is wingspan. That's pretty strong. I yeah, Actually his wingspans eighty one.
And a quarter sounds good, sounds great.
As we continue. Last one I was.
Here in this pick was a struggle. Yes, it took a long time for this one to get like the clock was taking and they had to run up to the podium with the card. I saw it, I saw it. Yes, what did you end up with?
Kansas City wide receiver Lad McConkey from Georgia.
So it's funny.
I'm like, I feel like this is a pretty obvious position need for them, particularly when we don't there's some question marks around Rashid Rice at the moment, and that was just the storyline all year from them was the wide receivers just having some individual struggles at different times. And so I feel like to have again a in the first round, to be picking last and to have a position of need that happens to be basically the deepest thing in the first round is pretty incredible.
For that because the struggle here wasn't should we take a wide receiver?
Yes, it was what type of receiver do they need?
You considered Xavier Worthy, considered Coleman, you considered right Franklin uh and decided this was the one that was the.
Best to round out that well, and it could be a little bit high.
But my thing with him that I think was really impresses was just his his route running precision, and I think that the injuries the back and ankle that he had in twenty twenty three kind of caused him to drop a little bit. But he has, you know, the vertical speed to keep guys honest. But just the way that he devises a plan almost like a defensive lineman creates like a pass rush plan.
Like this guy.
You can see the amount of film study that he does and how he attacks corners like he has a plan, and just the nuances to his route running and I think he could end up being a really, really big still for the Chiefs.
You cool with that?
Yep, I'm good with it.
So we're done. We took eight offensive tackles, six receivers, five corners for each of quarterback, and edge to each of interior defensive Lemon and interior offensive Lemon, one tight end, and no running backs, off ball linebackers or safeties none. Three positions with no picks. And that's an unusual draft that is unusual for us. For Jeff and I, my favorite pick was Brian Thomas to the Dolphins, other than the really obvious ones at the top. What was your favorite pick?
Probably, well, yeah, you said, other than the I mean Joe All for Tennessee, even though that wasn't our pick. Me seven downs, Yeah, I feel like that one is the is the most in terms of the need, the talent, that all of that. I feel like that one was was pretty good.
I like JC Latham to the Bengals. I think that's great value.
My favorite pick is going to be the one we get right, because you might only get one of these right. And I will say this, I will say this, I am going to mark this sheet I'm drafting, Yeah, to see how many we got right?
Is five?
I also really liked Chop Robinson to Detroy.
Yes, I'm gonna do Nate Wiggins to Philadelphia as much as all.
Right, nice job everything else.
No, I think we're good. We've done an hour and a half.
Actually not bad, an hour and sixteen minutes, very very well. Anybody else We learned a lot faster.
Than the actual draft will happen Thursday night. Yeah, I don't feel too bad about it.
And really, Katie Perry, yes, it's good story. But I'm coming at you like a dark horse. That's not she's acting like a dark horse is like some big, strong mythical beasts. Dark Horse means like speaky. Yeah, it's a song. To make it, she just had to phrase she wanted to use us in a way that makes.
That makes sense. You're coming at me like a dark horse. I don't know where you're coming from, but.
The rest of lyrics make it clear that it's like not it's not coming at you unexpectedly. It's like this you can't resist me kind of thing.
I'm currently googling the lyrics because I cannot, off the top of my.
Head know them. I need Scott.
Have you ever seen the videos of like Morgan Freeman where he reads the lyrics of like a Justin Bieber song. I need Scott just to read the lyrics of that song.
I would very straight.
I need I need that to happen.
But you better line that says, make me your aphrodity.
I think I would love to do with a dark horse. Yeah, am you capable of anything? Of anything and everything? Don't make me your enemy.
This should be a segment on every single Salty Dogs, because this is a salty topic of taking a song that you're just like this doesn't make any sense. I think there should be a new end of end of show segment for you.
My prerogative by Bobby Brown is another one that we can break down. Not right now, that doesn't make any sense. Also, he says prerogative. If you're going to use the word in your song title and say twenty times, you need to say the word right. Yeah, it's prerogative. And he says prerogative the whole time.
I like it.
How is a dark storm a perfect a dark horse a perfect storm. Those aren't the same thing at all. It's quite contradictory, Like a bird without a cage means it's free.
We can email Katy Perry for you your hand.
These None of these lyrics make any sense whatsoever. She just liked the words dark horses, I want to make a song.
Yeah, it seems like it worked.
She just thought it'd be catchy, but clearly.
It was not.
For mister, I kind of liked the song all this.
If you liked the song, and.
Since you did, thanks for listening.
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