In this episode, we explore what happens when someone sees the world differently from us, and why disagreement can sometimes feel like something much bigger than a difference of opinion.

We talk about what happens in the body when a deeply held belief is challenged, and how quickly difference can be interpreted as danger. Can we create enough space between reaction and response to become curious about what is happening within us, and about the person standing in front of us?

Along the way, the conversation moves from disagreement to understanding. Can we understand why someone believes what they believe without needing to believe it ourselves? Can we remain open to another perspective without abandoning our own? And perhaps underneath it all sits an even more vulnerable question: does belonging require agreement?

Maybe we don’t need to agree in order to remain in relationship. Maybe we can trust ourselves enough to hold our own perspective while allowing someone else to hold theirs.

What might become possible if neither of us has to win?

How about we simply say: I’m seeing it differently — and I’m still seeing you.

🃏 THE TAROT — Queen of Wands

The Queen of Wands reminds us of the power of knowing who we are without needing someone else to agree with us. Secure in her own voice and perspective, she can remain open to what others bring without being diminished by it.

Maybe real personal power is being able to say: I don’t need you to agree with me for me to trust myself.

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How comfortable are you allowing someone you care about to see something very differently from you without either of you needing to change the other’s mind?

Come and join us in our Salt, Sage & Stardust Substack community space and share what this question brings up for you. We’d love to continue the conversation with you there.

In this episode, we explore what happens when someone sees the world differently from us, and why disagreement can sometimes feel like something much bigger than a difference of opinion.
We talk about what happens in the body when a deeply held belief is challenged, and how quickly difference can be interpreted as danger. Can we create enough space between reaction and response to become curious about what is happening within us, and about the person standing in front of us?
Along the way, the conversation moves from disagreement to understanding. Can we understand why someone believes what they believe without needing to believe it ourselves? Can we remain open to another perspective without abandoning our own? And perhaps underneath it all sits an even more vulnerable question: does belonging require agreement?
Maybe we don&rsquo;t need to agree in order to remain in relationship. Maybe we can trust ourselves enough to hold our own perspective while allowing someone else to hold theirs.
What might become possible if neither of us has to win?
How about we simply say: I&rsquo;m seeing it differently &mdash; and I&rsquo;m still seeing you.
🃏 THE TAROT &mdash; Queen of Wands
The Queen of Wands reminds us of the power of knowing who we are without needing someone else to agree with us. Secure in her own voice and perspective, she can remain open to what others bring without being diminished by it.
Maybe real personal power is being able to say: I don&rsquo;t need you to agree with me for me to trust myself.
💫 JOIN THE CONVERSATION
How comfortable are you allowing someone you care about to see something very differently from you without either of you needing to change the other&rsquo;s mind?
Come and join us in our Salt, Sage &amp; Stardust Substack community space and share what this question brings up for you. We&rsquo;d love to continue the conversation with you there.

Welcome to Salt, Sage & Stardust—a weekly conversation between Keryn Rose, an intuitive energy healer, and Dr Vicki Haspels, a Tarot Coach. This is a space to pause, reflect, and reconnect with the deeper threads beneath everyday life. Each episode, Keryn & Vicki explore the energy of what’s been, what’s shifting, and what’s quietly guiding us forward. With a touch of insight, a little humour, and a whole lot of heart—they’re here to remind you that there’s magic in the ordinary, wisdom in your own rhythm, and healing in simply showing up

 

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Welcome to Salt, Sage &amp; Stardust&mdash;a weekly conversation between Keryn Rose, an intuitive energy healer, and Dr Vicki Haspels, a Tarot Coach. This is a space to pause, reflect, and reconnect with the deeper threads beneath everyday life. Each episode, Keryn &amp; Vicki explore the energy of what&rsquo;s been, what&rsquo;s shifting, and what&rsquo;s quietly guiding us forward. With a touch of insight, a little humour, and a whole lot of heart&mdash;they&rsquo;re here to remind you that there&rsquo;s magic in the ordinary, wisdom in your own rhythm, and healing in simply showing up
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