Ben Hunter tells Jenny Salt he didn't set out to be a plumber - that was God's plan.
Because of difficulties on the home front and at school, straight out of High School he decided to take up the offer of an apprenticeship.
Consequently, he worked as a plumber for many years - a blue-collar industry in which he laboured to show friends another way of life.
But for Ben, it wasn’t really what made his heart sing. Rather, it’s always been wanting to tell young people about Jesus – something he had to wait many years to do.