Guest: Jongisilo Pokwana Ka Menziwa - chief of KwaZangashe village near Dutywa in the Eastern Cape. He is also the director of Vusizwe Foundation for Historical Research as well as national chairperson of the SA Society of Archivists.

How we all strive for the best and ensure that 'ikhaya liyagcinwa' but when we fall short, we're no longer seen as the child who tried.

Talking points:

• Responsibility and expectations in African society that a child will help at home once they come of age
• ⁠what experiences we can draw from ourselves and as listeners
• ⁠what happens when we “fail”