The African Unite Borders Bus Trucks Association is calling on the governments of South Africa and Mozambique to find a lasting solution to the crisis in Mozambique. The association's chairperson, Phumudzo Mukhwathi, argues that the frequent closure and opening of the Lebombo Border post is causing uncertainty and disrupting the livelihoods of those who rely on cross-border trade and transportation. To discuss this further, Elvis Presslin spoke to Phumudzo Mukhwathi.