In this episode of Sacred Lessons, host Mike de la Rocha sits with Ken Salazar, former U.S. Senator, Secretary of the Interior, and U.S. Ambassador to México, for a timely conversation about immigration, identity, and who gets to belong in America. Drawing from his family’s centuries-long history in the American Southwest and his memoir Borderlands: My Fight for an Inclusive America, Ken reflects on how history continues to shape our understanding of borders, belonging, and one another. Together, Mike and Ken explore the fear and grief underlying our divisions, how men can redefine leadership and strength, and why building a more inclusive world begins with recognizing our shared future.

In this episode of&nbsp;Sacred Lessons, host Mike de la Rocha sits with Ken Salazar, former U.S. Senator, Secretary of the Interior, and U.S. Ambassador to M&eacute;xico, for a timely conversation about immigration, identity, and who gets to belong in America. Drawing from his family&rsquo;s centuries-long history in the American Southwest and his memoir&nbsp;Borderlands: My Fight for an Inclusive America, Ken reflects on how history continues to shape our understanding of borders, belonging, and one another. Together, Mike and Ken explore the fear and grief underlying our divisions, how men can redefine leadership and strength, and why building a more inclusive world begins with recognizing our shared future.

Sacred Lessons with Mike de la Rocha is redefining what it means to be a man. Hosted by bestselling author and artist Mike de la Rocha, each episode explores masculinity, healing, and purpose through raw, honest conversations with men from all walks of life.

In a culture that teaches men to stay silent, Sacred Lessons creates a brave space where true strength begins with vulnerability. Whether you’re on a journey of self-discovery, healing generational wounds, or seeking deeper connection, this podcast invites you to reconnect with your purpose and rediscover the power of love and community.

Sacred Lessons with Mike de la Rocha is redefining what it means to be a man. Hosted by bestselling author and artist Mike de la Rocha, each episode explores masculinity, healing, and purpose through raw, honest conversations with men from all walks of life.
In a culture that teaches men to stay silent, Sacred Lessons creates a brave space where true strength begins with vulnerability. Whether you&rsquo;re on a journey of self-discovery, healing generational wounds, or seeking deeper connection, this podcast invites you to reconnect with your purpose and rediscover the power of love and community.

Sacred Lessons with Mike de la Rocha

Sacred Lessons in the Borderlands with Ken Salazar

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