In this episode of Sacred Lessons, host Mike de la Rocha sits with Carmen Perez-Jordan, Chicana feminist and longtime movement leader, for a deeply personal conversation about friendship, grief, and liberation. From their shared roots in Oxnard to decades of organizing together, Carmen reflects on transforming the loss of her sister into purpose and the responsibility of carrying forward the lessons of our elders. Together, Mike and Carmen explore what feminism asks of men, the personal sacrifices of living on the frontlines of history, and why liberation must be practiced not only in our movements, but in how we love, heal, and show up for one another.

In this episode of Sacred Lessons, host Mike de la Rocha sits with Carmen Perez-Jordan, Chicana feminist and longtime movement leader, for a deeply personal conversation about friendship, grief, and liberation. From their shared roots in Oxnard to decades of organizing together, Carmen reflects on transforming the loss of her sister into purpose and the responsibility of carrying forward the lessons of our elders. Together, Mike and Carmen explore what feminism asks of men,&nbsp;the personal sacrifices of living on the frontlines of history, and why liberation must be practiced not only in our movements, but in how we love, heal, and show up for one another.

Sacred Lessons with Mike de la Rocha is redefining what it means to be a man. Hosted by bestselling author and artist Mike de la Rocha, each episode explores masculinity, healing, and purpose through raw, honest conversations with men from all walks of life.

In a culture that teaches men to stay silent, Sacred Lessons creates a brave space where true strength begins with vulnerability. Whether you’re on a journey of self-discovery, healing generational wounds, or seeking deeper connection, this podcast invites you to reconnect with your purpose and rediscover the power of love and community.

Sacred Lessons with Mike de la Rocha is redefining what it means to be a man. Hosted by bestselling author and artist Mike de la Rocha, each episode explores masculinity, healing, and purpose through raw, honest conversations with men from all walks of life.
In a culture that teaches men to stay silent, Sacred Lessons creates a brave space where true strength begins with vulnerability. Whether you&rsquo;re on a journey of self-discovery, healing generational wounds, or seeking deeper connection, this podcast invites you to reconnect with your purpose and rediscover the power of love and community.

Sacred Lessons with Mike de la Rocha

Sacred Lessons in Liberation with Carmen Perez-Jordan

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