Former defence Minister Ron Mark reveals why he thinks New Zealand's defence spending is 'a joke'. 

Former defence Minister Ron Mark reveals why he thinks New Zealand's defence spending is 'a joke'.&nbsp;

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Is our defence spending letting us down? | Thu 4 Jun

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