All right, everyone, welcome back to another episode of Running the Break. Gu'm Alex long Is Always with co host c J Colodono. CJ. We're recording this during your five day US Thanksgiving weekends, so thanks so much for your services today. Stop it man. I mean, you know, the vintage in sports and apparel hunting is it never sleeps. So um, the fact that we're recording this episode today and in our guest, it's a great pleasure of mine. Yeah, it never sleeps. Because I woke up today I was like, oh wow, I just went to a Venta shop online who had sixty percent off and bought a bunch of stuff that I probably don't need. Anyways, we have our guests Gavin Clark with us. He's one of the co owners of Vintage nine oh five, a really cool vinta shop here in Canada in Whitby, Ontario specifically. You know, Gavin's worked with some high profile A list clientele, which I'm sure we're gonna get to but also want to get to know his story as well. Gavin, thank you for joining us. Hey, guys, thank you so much for having me. It's a it's a pleasure to be here and really excited tacking you guess, yeah, And you know CJ and I we like when we have guests on to just start with some icebreakers, get to know you a little bit. So, Gavin, first question for you, what was your first NBA jersey? Oh? Man, this one I know for sure. I wore pretty much every day growing up. I had a Dallas Mavericks. Steve Nash Nice was the black. It was the black, black of the blue. And you know, as a Canadian, Steve Nash was that guy growing up, So that was an obvious one to me, and I honestly wore I wore that one out like it is. Uh, it was well faded when I was done with it. Sorry, did you say it was? It? Was it a Champion Replica? Oh no, it was. I believe it was a Reebok Nice Okay, okay, awesome. Yeah. I had the whole set to, like the sweat bands, the headband, like I was Dallas Maverick back then. Yeah, So, like did you guys? Was it mainly just growing up in Canada with in terms of like the guys you followed in the teams before the Raptors where you're just like, hey, that person is from Canada. You know, I gotta rep them, like, who who are you guys following Growing up in Canada's NBA fans, Nash was definitely the guy. But anybody, anybody Canadian like they did always stand out. Rick Fox. Wow, I didn't know Rick Fox is Canadian? Yeah, Rick Fox off of your Los Angeles Lakers, you know, if you if you look, he represented. He represented Team Canada at the nineties four FIBA World Championships. And speaking of vintage with which we're gonna get into, like I have seen that Rick Fox Team Canada jersey like a champion Rick Fox kind of floating around in the vintage space. Yeah, it's always been a little bit too pricey from me though. Yeah, that's what I'd love to add to the collection. Yeah yeah, Rick Fox. Yeah, but you're right those DJ like I think, I think early on, you know, you know when the Raptors were here, even the Grizzlies too, right, Like the Vancouver Grizzlies, I think was a team that that we closely followed, and there just weren't a lot of Canadians back in the day, right, Like like you think about the eighties, it was like Leo Rottin's anything about like you know, Jamal mcglore, Rick Fox and Steve Nash's was the big deal. Uh And now like you look at you look at the teams now like there's like a Canadian playing on like almost every team, it feels like so so it's definitely growing a lot for us. This becomes like a very Canadian episode. We started name dropping all the Canadians. But I do want to hear so like, tell us your story how you got into sports and vintage where you a sports fan first before you sort of got an advantage, like where where did this passion start? Definitely, Um, I was always a sports fan growing up, played a lot of sports, and always my family was a big sports, big sports fans. Definitely, U basketball wasn't as big like I kind of saw that it would on myself because it was always all my ends. Everybody around was always hockey. Hockey was always the big thing, and the leaves were always huge, and it was always our year, even though it never ended up being that. Um, but sports was always a big part in like our house and stuff that I was drawn to. And then it was then between Steve Nash and Vince Carter was kind of where everything exploded on the Canadian scene and became mainstream and did kind of get the following let's say, like the leaves and hockey in general had around here. Yeah, did you have, like, um, like, how how into sneakers were you? Were you growing up? Like, is there like a first pair of sneakers that was like a big deal for you. It's it's embarrassing to admit now because now I do, I'm a sneaker girl, but I was not really into it at all growing up. Um, It's it's embarrassing. The the pair of sneakers that like I most remember from my childhood were the all white high top air Force one looking flat farms amazing. I didn't even have the actual Air Force ones. I remember getting the high top of the strap, the complete knocked off of the air Force one fat farm always, and I thought they were the coolest things. That's the first pair of shoes that like I really remember like going out by and just thinking I was the coolest guy in eighth grade or whatever. Yeah, for those for our younger listeners, Flatform was a huge brand. So and I remember when like every sort of like streetwear brand from back down and they would't have been calling themselves streetwear, but it was like we have to have our own air force one where we just replaced the swoosh with the Fat Farm logo. And I remember, like I had a pair of Tommy Hill Figure um Up Tempo inspired Tommy Hill Figure sneakers that I wore a basketball once and got clowned and was like, oh okay, I get it. Like it was Tommy Hill Figure for clothes, Nike whatever basketball brands for sneakers. So I'm right there with you in terms of grabbing a pair like that. Yeah, It's it's really interesting too, Like I think about like it's a really good point about U c J. Like a lot of those brands like back in the day in that street where like I'm thinking like even like Karl Cana I I know made a shoot and I think we've talked about it for like John Wallace and really like and One was the only one I can think of that really like kind of broke into that space and really made a mark in a way. Right, Yeah, those thay. I actually I just got an and one shirt. I gotta find it here, but it the and one, like I feel like you got you watched that documentary and they were really filling the holes of the Hooper outside, like the cool Hooper, the Hooper that can buy the most expensive sneakers. Like they were really true to the culture. And we haven't seen a brand like that since. But being just like you know, paying respect and like you know, giving a label for for the playground Hooper is almost Uh, that's why I really loved And one what about you, Gavin, where you did you have any sort of affection towards And one coming up, it's it's funny you to mention that my first day of high school I wore a camo and one mixtape Hot Sauce Jersey And that is another one where I just thought the absolute man, like, this is the coolest thing. And the camo shorts. I'm pretty sure that the fat farm eyetops were still rocking then, but I remember the very first day of high school, Camo and one Hot Sauce mix savee Jersey. Hot Sauce was our MJ back then. For a second. No, that's that's amazing, man, because like you know, And one I think I think that's why I love whenever we get guys and we get guests on that that that are that remember that era because like just street ball and just how dominant it was for a period of time. It was just no, it was it was incredible. But let's let's take a quick break. When we come back, let's dive into Gavin, let's dive into your story or venture drop and hear about all the stories of of the NBA players and then even a lists musicians and then celebs that you've dealt with. So let's take a break and when we come back, we'll talk about all that. All right, we're back and running the break. We're joined by Gavin Clark. Gavin, the big reason why you're on the show obviously, you know Alex mentioned before you've outfitted some of the biggest players in the NBA. But your your main thing is you know, you're the co owner of Vintage nine oh five. Tell us a little bit about your shop and in the in the origin story there, Yeah, absolutely. So we are located just outside of Toronto with the Ontario Canada UM. This weekend, actually we're celebrating our five year anniversary. So we've been at our location now five years UM and it's really grown from a Instagram page with zero followers and you know, just a little bit of inventory into what I think is probably like it is one of the most well known venture stores in Canada. Um, it's really been a wild journey and it's crazy to see where we're at now. And like Alex mentioned, we've we've really got to interact with some cool people, some celebrities, NBA players, and it's been an awesome journey to get to where we are. Yeah, and you know, I remember you telling in the story like when you started thrift ng first of all, like when did you start thrift ng? And then tell us the story. I remember you told me the story about this ke tarring tea that I think it was the first sale that you ever made, right, Yeah, for sure. It really was just like I was working an absolute pyramid scheme of a job, Like I was, don't get a suit, but please tell the story. I'd moved home from college and you know, just wasn't sure kind of what my next move was. Found a sales job on kig that sounded like kind of the answer to everything I was looking for. Did it for a couple of weeks, and I realized we were basically just hustling furnaces to old people who didn't need them. It was. It was from the It was just a a pyramid scheme of a job where only the guys who were sending out the calls were making money and you weren't sure if you're gonna get paid one week. So I did that for a couple of weeks before really piecing together what it was. But while I was going out and doing these calls, there would be you know, one in Mississauga at one of block and then you were over back east for like four o'clock. So there's all these hours in between the appointments, and what I started doing it was just going to thrift stores and looking around. And I've always collected like books and records, tape, stuff like that, So I started going in and looking around there, looking through drift stores where whatever city I was in, and looking for stuff like that. And just because I had so much time antil, I thought I'll start checking out the US clothing because it's it's it seems crazy to think now, but thrift ng and vintage and all that is not what it was then. There was you know, a few like Alex would know a few stores out in Toronto. There was your black market. Your f is in Frank like a couple of stores that people knew of, but it was not this thing is that it is today where everybody has a shop in an Instagram page. And I remember just going the very first time I went and looked through the closed but maybe second thing I pulled out, it was just like a beautiful night he swing man Kobe number eight jersey, and I thought like, oh, this is this is awesome, this is twelve bucks. I'm just gonna come here every time. I just keep finding these cool NBA jerseys and finding these jackets and cool T shirts and stuff. I didn't know what vintage was, but I was looking for I'm a big wrestling fan, so I was looking for old Stone Cold ste Boston shirts and stuff like that. And it really became like a hobby where it was fun to go. And then eventually I got out of my pyramid scheme job and and I just continued drifting and I would find stuff for myself, and then potentially I'd find, you know, something cool that was too big or too small, and I would grab it anyways, and then I had friends who were saying like, oh, like let me let me get that off you. Eventually I started posting stuff on Kigi found the Keith Haring shirt like Alex mentioned, and that was my first ever meet up and Sail and I thought like, wow, this is this is actually something I could do. And it's crazy that that is the origin story to see where we're at now, like five years in our location and all from just kind of driving around and finding us closed. Yeah, I remember I and I tried to describ to people because it's so funny, like in the last year or so was when my friends and um, people are like, oh, yeah, this vintage thing seems to be big, and I'm like, it kind of really only happened the last few years. And um, I noticed that from you know, there was this T shirt, this Mountain Dunkmore Nike shirt and it was the Mountain it was Mount Rushmore, but it had Jordan's I think Jordan Pippen Barkley and David Robinson. And I remember I bought that shirt maybe five years ago for forty bucks and then you go on eBay and all the you know, the consignment sites now and it's like two hundred bucks. And so I noticed that like a year and a half ago, right, And so I was like, okay, so vintage vintage is here, like it's arrived. Things cost a lot. Was there any sort of like you said that Kobe swing Man, But was there any sort of like item or type of item that you were like, Oh man, the prices jumped up. Maybe we can make a business out of this. It is like you've mentioned c J. Only in the last few years, I found things of really spiked. Yeah, because I remember one of the first things like I really like turned a profit on was I found a nineties Nirvana T shirt, like an original Sliver concert shirt like pretty um, pretty like well known to in the vintage community. One that's really positive. Now they're probably five plus right, like they go way up. I got that one chair to say, four bucks that day. The next day I sold it for a hundred and fifty and I thought like, this is this is I'm going to be rich. I thought I had just found the cheek code and I couldn't believe somebody was paying that for a T shirt at the time. This is probably six seven plus years ago now, and now it's like you if you were to find that T shirt for a hundred and fifty dollars, that would be a steal. So the vintage, the pricing and everything. It's always changing. It always fluctuates. It is really like a stock market the way things go up and down. But it was it was steadying for a while where everything kind of had sent price. And then at the start of COVID, actually, I think when everybody was at home just purely online shop think prices exploded like they were any any kind of rare nineties band T shirt like you couldn't find for under a hundred bucks. Everything's always changing, stuff goes up and down, but there's some things that will always kind of be steady. Yeah. No, I think it's super cool too, and one of the things that I really enjoy and like I've had the privilege obviously of visiting you know, you and Mike Advantage Nato five at the shop, and it was super cool, uh to come in and you know, I was just looking at my shelf. I know, you guys kind enough to gift me. I'm just showing you guys a big pun capital punishment because that say, because that's like, that's like one of my favorite actually, it's probably the favorite album of all time for me. And I love pun and it's like one of the things I love about coming into the shops is just having conversations. Like I said, like forget about just the shopping, right And I know c J two like we do a lot of shopping online, you know, looking on eBay for stuff. But for me, so much of this vintage experience is like connecting with guys like you and like having those in person conversations and just talking about like the things that we're chatting about now, like wrestling tease or like backstories and like things like that. How much of that is an enjoyment for you too, because I'm sure you have aside from like obviously all the big names that we keep teasing we're going to talk about, you know, that you work with, but like just having like the general regular customer coming in and being like, oh my god, like this wrestling tea or this banti, like I have such a connection to it. I I absolutely love that. I think it's one of the coolest things about the job. Um. Sometimes people will ask us, they'll say, like, what's your what kind of people do you get, Like what sort of age, like whatever, And I honestly is you know, it could be like a young high school kid, or it could be like a great or his grandpa who was like I was at this concert in the seventies and this shirt is like bringing me back. One of the coolest things about the job is getting the personal stories from people. And when people come and say, I used to have that shirt I used to like, Oh, this is blowing my mind, like it's so cool for us. Um. And then there's there's people who are collectors and like you ever mentioned, and it's just fun talking to them and learn about the stuff that they are into, and it's it's one of the best parts of the job for sure. Yeah, it's why I used to work in a video store, and you know I have I haven't let go of why I think video stores should exist, but it is that very reason. It's like it's a place where like minded people can go and not only run movies, but just like talk with fellow you know, passionate fans of this media or thing. So that's why I think, like how vintage and like vinyl and all this stuff always has their moment or comes back. Um. I think video stores will will eventually creep their way back in. But I wanted to um, you know, when we we talked to vintage store owners like yourself, and I think you have a story like this. UM is sometimes and leverage might be the wrong word, but like by happenstance, NBA players reach out because they're obviously into fashion, they're into vintage. UM. I think we have a note here that one of the first people that ever reached out to you was NICKI Young. Can you describe um there? Tell us a story of how Nick Young reached out and and what went down there. Man probably like one of the coolest people that you could ever have your first interaction with, like an NBA fashion icon, one of the coolest guys. Um Man should Nick like he is such a cool guy, so nice and like it's been a pleasure getting interact with him. We uh, we actually met up with him just through just through our our grailed account, actually grilled the selling site for anyone who doesn't know, and he bought a shirt off there and then basically like hit us with a message after he bought a It was a two thousand up in smoke like the eminem Snoop Dogg Tour, really cool Rapteth and I believe he just messaged us after and said like, hey, like I don't know if you guys know me, Like this is Nick Young from the Lakers. Yeah, he's like I'd like, he's like like, do you guys have a store? Do you have more stuff that's like not posted here? So we got his information, um sign him a bunch of pictures. He end up grabbing a bunch like really cool stuff off of us, and it's he And every once in a while we'll still see on his page, like he'll pop up and some of them that he got from us, and like it's just wild to see um. But it is usually just something like that, Like it'll be either through like a d M or um getting tagged in something and then people will either like send it to them or it's it's just really cool, like the social media era stuff that like like it's not like it's not like Swaggy p would have been in Whitby, Ontario doing a little shop and it happened to just walk into the store. So this day and age, like we we try to take advantage of the opportunities, but also like the just the aspects of like social media and being able to tag like a celebrity in a picture and like stuff that we never would have been able to do before. Yeah, I think that's so cool. Like when someone like Nick reaches out and obviously you guys start having these conversations like how specific is he getting in terms of you know, is he telling you, oh, like I'm looking for things from specific eras or they're specific things that I'm looking for, Like, like, how how specific do these guys get? It completely varies by the person. I'm pretty sure his exact quote was like, just send me anything dope you've got, send me pictures of all the dope stuff in the store. Um, he's like a very obviously he's like like a very very fashionable guy. He can make whatever word. So he just wanted to see like anything cool we had, if it was hip hop stuff, if it was wrestling tease, if it was like old country teas, even like you just want to see anything cool, like big graphics, colorful, anything swaggy. I guess you would say, yeah, now when when you dealt with Swaggy And then I think it was also Tequil Alexander Walker. Um, did your customer base change because you know they start seeing your pieces on these players, does then the business and like the whole game of all change for you? A thousand. Um. I don't know if these guys even know like the kind of fluence that they have on the business they shop at, because I'm sure to him it's just you know, getting a cool T shirt in that. But for us, when we can post you know, Nick Young or Nikkille, Alexander Walker or whoever else like was in here wearing this like supporting it, we have people come in like to this day and they'll say, like, oh, I saw like, um, alex was very kind wrote us, wrote a really great article about our store for the Toronto Start, which is like a big newspaper out here, And we have people come in like all the time still saying that they saw this, they saw this article in the paper, or their friend reposted a photo of an NBA player and like it's crazy. Like people will come in all the time saying like, like I heard NBA player's shop here. It's just such a wild thing to think of that never would have seemed possible when I was out looking for swing managers. He's in the thrift store all those years ago. Yeah, it's it's it's so cool And like even the lea mentioned in the connection with Niki Alexander Walker you know, I know it started when he was on the Pelicans and and you know he wore he got like a I think it was a breadth of him man t from you, right, like that was one of the many things that he bought from you. And I remember seeing that in the tunnel, like like you know, I think on league fits and stuff. And I'm sure you've seen, you know, him wearing a lot of the vintage hockey hats and like a lot of apparel that he's picked up from you guys. So with him, I think you told me, like this is one of those things where you, guys when he was in town playing the Raptors, like you would bring like just like bags or like suitcases of like physical like items for like him and his teammates to just kind of check out what's that process like for you in terms of because there's a curation process to that, right, those are some of the most fun days like we've ever had just first showed out Nikiela Man, he is such a good guy. Um, I love It's great seeing him do well. He's been one of our biggest supporters, like from the time we met him too until now, like he's he actually he sent us a message today saying congratulations on five years at the store. Like he's just such a good guy. Awesome. I can't say enough good things about him. Um. Yeah, he was another guy who we just happened to reach out to. He was he was shopping down at another store in Toronto. We saw and I could tell, like, not because he's gonna get me a chow, not to throw any shade or anything, but I could tell like the places he was shopping he wasn't getting kind of what he was looking for. He was looking for, you know, like some premium vintage stuff, not really like drift stuff. And so we just we happen to see I think I think I'm gonna expose myself. I think it was the other store actually posted like thanks Nikkil for coming in, and we just we just kind of jumped on it. We said like, hey, man, if you're looking for like this sort of stuff, this spread hard all over print, like he's cool, like like wrestling tease whatever. Man, we got you like, come on down. And he just said, like I'm I'm coming today. So he drove out, came down to the store. It was awesome. He actually, uh, he did an interview for NBA dot Com where they were asking about his fashion sentiment and he he reference to that story, said, like the guys at Vintage nil five like at the store open for me, Like I've been shopping there ever since. So he's been such a great guy and uh, such a big supporter in and and it just showed up to the Canadian kids. Now, I think that's great. I don't think you should feel too bad about, you know, seeing that post and going hey, like you gotta drum up. You know, there's so many everyone's businesses that ever vintage You've got all you know, this this stuff, and it's like you gotta differentiate yourself and when you use your expertise is sort of like craft exactly what these guys are looking for. I think that's you know, that's huge. That's what makes you great. So I'm curious, you know what the NBA players and maybe celebrities who come in, like, what are some of the categories of vintage you know, these these guys are looking for, Like I think wrestling Teas's obviously obviously said what other sort of categories are our players really like hounding for these days? I would say, yeah, a lot of them are looking for, like just the nineties, anything that's gives you that nostalgia feeling. Lots of lots of banties, you know, Motallica here, you're anything like that. Um, movies, movie stuff is always a big one. Any like comedies, hip hop teas are always a big one with them. Um, it's a lot of T shirts, but like I remember, Drew Holiday got a flint Stones movie t s here from us, like Viva Rock Vegas. So it's it could be anything, man, It's we always try to especially like when I was talking about going to the meetups and how we curate that, it really is just we try to bring a big variety of whatever is cool. Like I know, it's such a general term and such like a an easy way to kind of explain it, but we just grab. But it's kind of always been our mottel, Like with the stores, like we grab stuff that we find interesting, stuff that we would like to wear, and stuff that appeals to us. So that's it. We just kind of bring the best of that we we curate the store, not to like hop on trends and not to go with whatever. So it's stuff that we think it is interesting. We think people will like stuff that gives you that nostalgic feeling where people of any age come in and they say, you know, if it's their first time seeing the Wu Tang w think, well that's a cool looking shirt, or you know, a guy in his thirties forties comes in and says, like, I grew up on that era, like that is I remember people wearing that shirt. So we just try to keep it curated to what we think represents the best of those times. And then that's the sort of thing we try to bring when we do the meet ups is whatever the best of the best of the stuff we've curated is. Yeah, and you know, having having two Canadians on this episode right now, you know, I think one of the things that's been that's been trending up to is is hockey jerseys and just kind of vintage NHL stuff, Like have you noticed more of that too when you when you're interacting with with NBA players and an athlete Definitely. I mean I think part of it too is you can't really sell your old champions went your your old champion jerseys and that NBA players right like McKell can't really wear a Chicago Bowl Jordan jersey when you're playing in Utah, it would it looked a little funny like wearing a different team in that. So I think Coffey kind of gives it, kind of gives that that freedom where they could wear, you know, a Chicago black Hawks jersey as opposed to a bowls um and then like the nineties hockey jerseys are just like that stuff we can't even keep in in stock anymore. Like that's just some of the some of the best, the best color ways. And yeah, hockey stuff is definitely on the up. Stop. Yeah, I want to ask some one more. Thanks Ja, I just want to ask this for far I forget because I find it so interesting. It's like when these guys hit you up. You know obviously there's like I mentioned a certain curation process, right, you've known c J for how long have we been recording here minutes? Based on what you know about c J, what he's wearing. If CJ is like, yo, come through today, I want you to just curate like a suitcase worth of stuff for me. What categories are you going to dive into for for CJ? For c Yeah, I know you're a hat guy. We would we would bring a lot of Um, I feel like you are a big nineties guy and like we would try to do the movies, we would try to do the hip hop stuff. Um we don't. We don't carry many shoes. We do a few throwbacks. But I know you're a big, big sneaker head, basically big into everything. Has a problem, Yeah, I have. It's a problem. And I was telling, you know, I was telling my wife, like the Jordan One Lost and Founds just came out, and so I bought, Like, you know, that's a lot of people's holy grails. It's it's like a holy grail to me. But more so it's like if these are coming back around, there's not much else that needs to come back out, and you know what I mean. And so like I got those and I was like I think I'm done. But then cut to an hour later, I'm already exactly what you said, Like I'm typing in on consignment sides vintage movie hats, and like that's how I know I have a problem is when my searchers are getting broader and broader, you know what I mean, I'm just like looking for something new to be obsessed with. So I think that was a great sort of like diagnosis Gavin of of what I'm like literally everything. I think I've one of the easier guys for us there to back forward. Yeah, No, I think I think that's it. Yeah, you're talking nineties movies. Had I was almost pulled the trigger on on a face off movie day, and then a couple of days ago I went back. I was like, all right, I'm ready, um let's make this happen. And it was gone. And that's the only one that I've seen pop up. And I'm sure we all have those stories of things that have just kind of come and gone for us. So file that under, you know, my my long list of regrets for for Vintage. I was eyeing that for a long time because you guys know, I got my speed HAD. I had the speed HAD is iconic. Alex. I actually so real quick before we take a break, and then I want to ask you, Gavin, just you know, there's a lot of beginners who listened to our our our podcast want to get some advice from you. But the one sort of flex I wanted to give is I ought again. This is on deep Pop. I found a guy who didn't know what he had. He bought a storage unit that had movie props in there, and so he had Beverly Hills Cop three. If you guys remember this movie they made like a fake Disney World in there. It was called Wonderland, and so there was a bunch of hats and and crew necks of Wonderland and so like it was just listed as like Wonderland, and I bought them for like, you know, thirty bucks and everyone who who's gonna move for Like, where the hell did you get there? Is that a re Is that a reprint or whatever? I'm like, who was reprinting Wonderland hats and shirts? And you know what I mean? So, like again, that's what keeps me in the game. Um, do you guys have any any like wildly, wildly obscure um items like that? Um, you know, Gavin, while you think you know. So, one of the things that I've been really into recently is like Canadian heritage stuff, so like in terms of just like sports, like sporting events and like Canadian specific sports. So one of the biggest curling tournaments, it says, you know, curling is a big deal here here in Canada. Um, the biggest tournament that's been running, like you know in the past couple of decades. I think going way back is this tournament called like the Scott Tournament of Hearts. This is literally only something that like it's like a deep cut for for Canadians. And I found a really cool and I found a seller who had a lot of just vintage old like curling merch, like hats and sweaters and stuff. And I recently picked up this really cool just Scott Tournament of Hearts sweater and it's just got like a sewn in like silhouette of someone just like curling with the tournament and it says like thunder Bay, Ontario. They're like a really small town as well. Reference. So I've been looking for those things just like kind of deep cuts, um. And I know there's a you know, obviously in the US there's the Kentucky Derby. We've got like our own like Woodbine race tracks, like our own kind of like Triple Crown races. I've been looking at a lot of those merched too, just like Canadian stuff like Canadian golf PG eight tournaments, um, and anything that's just very like deep cut Canadian For me, those are the things I'm really diving into because again, there isn't a huge market for it. There isn't a huge market for it. And you're gonna find a lot of sellers online who this is really just stuff kind of like you were saying, c J with the movie props. They're just getting rid of stuff that they've had, like you know, like like that they don't know I mean, yeah, they don't know the value. And for me, like those are just like treasured items from it. No, absolutely, I M I love. I love the smaller town stuff like I collect with the Oshawa stuff. Right, that's a real deep listening. Um. I have an eighties trucker hat that is the Oshawa Mall and it's when it used to have a bowling alley and it says Oshawa Lanes at the Oshawa at the center. It's nobody knows what it is like even around here, said nobody like my age members when there was a bowling alley. I don't it was. It must have been like early eighties or something. And I love stuff like that also a big Like I love obscure like vhs and stuff like that. So I have a couple of t shirts from trying to get like old video stores, old old video stores. I have a couple that are like a couple of Blockbuster promote s. I feel like eighties ones. I have my mom's Aware Wolf with the video on the front. Stuff like that, it finds so cool. It doesn't really do anything for anybody else. You know, it's not your your Nirvana or your like rap teas or anything, but stuff like that I find so interesting. Obscure Toronto bands, stuff like that is really cool to me. Yeah, almost something I think I think for you to, like, I feel like everything you tap into is like very like it's personal, Like if there's a very like personal touch to the stuff, like you referencing like the Beverly hild Cops movie, like those are very specific specific things in your life. And that's the thing I feel like whenever we talk about vintage I always try to tell people too, is like when you talk about just like personal taste or like personal stuff that can be defined in so many different ways, right Like for me, like recently it's more getting into the Canadian stuff. I've also always been interested in picking up stuff like for some people that might not know. Like I used to work like in accounting, like more on office job before I got into sports like I've been super into getting merch of just places that I used to work for, so like Ernston Young accounting firm, Like I bought a vintage hat like on eBay, like like for like twenty Bucks, like I have like golf shirts. I worked at Series for a little bit too, like at their head office. So I look at like old Sears stuff and that's a connection to me. And I've been looking at a lot of University of Toronto like engineering like leather jackets. Uh, it's like it's just like the University like Far City jackets, because that's what my parents always wanted me to get into. So at some point I just want to pull up with that and be like, you know, here you go. I'm back now. I think that's exactly and I want to get your take on this, Gavin. But I think that's how you keep it not as competitive and you keep sort of like it not being a fat is the personal connections and like the reason behind certain items and then obviously like people will notice that they start liking like that's when it becomes a fad. But um again, like that's how I sort of keep my vintage hobby um turned like obsession, like alive is like, oh yeah, what is that thing that sort of like triggers something in my brain nostalgia or personal connection? Do you do you have a lot of customers in that and like is that you mentioned that's how you do it, but like, do you have a lot of customers you sort of have that sort of like fascination with with vintage? Definitely I agree with you, like a thousand percent everything you were saying their CJ and I really think you can extend that beyond vintage, like piktok, sneakers or even any general hobbies and that you kind of have to do it for yourself. If you're just doing things like jumping trend to trend or trying to do what's hot, what's popular, you'll burn yourself out and you won't get as much enjoyment of them if you're only trying to collect. Sure it's that you know, the vintage community thinks it's cool and like what's hot right now, you won't get as much enjoyment out of it as you know, your local city, to your something that actually means something to you and speaks to you. And I think that a lot of our customers are like that, Like we we have people who have been coming in, you know, since the day we opened, and we know, like, Okay, this guy loves obscure horror tiaes, like we'll put this aside, he'll be in again. And this guy collects like you know, old skate teas, but like only certain brands, and like when we get one, it's it's a cool feeling for us, like, oh, you know, Joe is gonna love this, like this is his like or we getting like a cassette tape from old metal bands, Like it's it's really cool knowing it's a good feeling to helping somebody like build their collection when that's something that really speaks to them and you know, gives them like pleasure. So it's it's it's a cool thing. And I do really think like for vintage clothing, for sneakers, for whatever your hobby is, and you know, beyond even just in life, like if you can really make stuff personal to you, you're going to get more enjoyment out of it. Don't do things just because of other people's perception or what the community, the sneaker community, the vintage community. Things like you gotta at the end of the day, you know, it goes on your back, it goes on your feet. You gotta you gotta enjoy it. Yeah, no, this is um no, this this is just three three dudes um interventions nerding out right now. And and um yeah, we gotta take a break. Let's take a break. And when we come back, still want to get the story about Gavin and the Weekend, and we'll talk talk a little bit more restling piece as well. So you're listening to Run in the Break, well, we'll be back after this. Welcome back to Running the Break, still here with Gavin Clark. Gavin, the one story we haven't asked you about is the one involving The Weekend, who I'm sure everyone is is familiar with. I'm not even gonna tease this one almost just let you tell the whole story about this one. Awesome man, Well this is this is this is the one we get asked about a lot, like it's one of the coolest things has ever happened in the store and just anuely in my life, like this was a wild experience. Um. The Weekend is obviously a music icon of a huge Canadian presence and somebody that everybody around here like he's a fan of I'd say he's he's I've been following his Instagram forever just as a fan, and one day, just you know, scrolling through my feed on my personal account, happened to come across weekends page and he posted a throwback Thursday picture him probably five six years old something like that. He was wearing a Toronto Blue Jay's T shirt, which, you know, a night cool vintage t um did I didn't think too much of I thought like, oh, that's cool, like, you know, to see the Weekend in an old Toronto Blue Jays T And then the next day, while we're in going through some stuff putting some new stuff out, we happen to have the exact same T shirt Toronto Blue Jays, but it was in an XCEL and like a full grown person's size, and we thought, okay, we gotta this is this is it, like, this is our chance to connect with the Weekend. We've got to get this over to him. We did. We did a post just like with the screenshot of his page, him as a kid with the T shirt, our picture of the T shirt and just said like, hey, guys, you know, if you could help us out tag Weekend in this post um, you know, let him know, dmm do whatever. Let's let's really let's really get this across his speed. And hopefully we thought, hopefully like a few people do it. I didn't really expect too much from it, but it absolutely blew up. Like it ended up getting just there. It's our most like post of all time, are mostly interacted post with of all time. Um, it end up getting picked up by like I don't know how, like let you guys know about the Weekend Span communities and that, but he has like a cult following. It's crazy and we like Weekend Brazil ended up reposting it and just like all kinds of just different band pages and it was just like it was just likes and comments and like every second it was going on, it was it was crazy to be just to see, like to see in real time happened. And then eventually his manager got and he's like, okay, guys, like stop stop digging us, like it's going we're getting way too much notifications over here. And he said, like you know, what can we what do you guys want for that T shirt? Like we said, we're just gonna send it like we'd love to just you know, work with you guys and do some business and keep us in mind when you need stuff in the future. And um, we ended up we ended up getting his information, sending him the T shirt over and he took he took some time, like wrote us a really wrote us a nice letter, sent us a like autographed items, thanking them for the T shirt. It seemed very just like happy about it. And it was really cool. And since then we've we've got him a few more pieces, really cool shop lines for Animation Toronto Blue Jays jacket that he took a picture where posted on the Instagram, like it was a really cool experience. We've got a really nice frame poster from him, like divinatione Nino five. Thank you for the Blue Jay's T shirt. Um, this is a really cool experience that like that, that's one where people really come in and they're like, what's on the weekend? Get stuff from here? Like we want to get stuff from here. So it was an amazing experience. Um, one of the cooler things that's ever happened at the store. And yeah, just honestly blessed that to get that kind of opportunity. Yeah, no, shout out to you. I mean again, I've been saying, and it's like the best people in this game aren't people who are just necessarily finding you know, the oldest, most rare stuff. But to have that, like I don't know, I what like I guess it's like customer service, Like you notice, like this is gonna this is gonna be a moment, you know what I mean? So I love UM sort of your guys is just like UM voice in the in the community. That's really cool. I think that ties back kind into what we were what we were talking about, just where the break there yet, UM customers who want who are looking for something in particular and being able to recognize that, and who doesn't want, you know, their favorite shirt from when they were kid. It doesn't he doesn't matter how you know, how much money you've gone or like that's a cool feeling to have something you genuinely liked as a kid and gives you that kind of nostalgic feeling and those warm memories. Like we can can go out and buy whatever kind of designer or however expensive shirt or whatever, but you can't go and get that exact same one that you had as a kid. And we figured even though you know he is a big famous celebrity and that that's something that pretty much anybody would want to be a part of. And it was cool that we can make that happen to him and just kind of genuinely feel like he appreciated it was pretty awesome day at the job. Yeah, and you've had people from Drake's camp come in and shop too, right, you guys have some connections there too. Absolutely, Man, one of the one of the just the not only like nicest celebrities or whatever. One of the nicest people I've ever come across. And our experience doing this is boy Wonda, mega producer, you know, Grammys, million times platinum done, worked with Beyonce, Kendrick Drake, like anybody, anybody you can think of in the music industry. He's produced for and just couldn't be a nicer guy. Just one day we had a just a d M saying, Hey, is it cool if I come by from Boyle and at leastaid yes, Man, absolutely, you can come by any time he'd like, feel free to bring Drake. And so he's been another guy who's just been so supportive and um amazing guy, like amazing father. He brings his daughter and all the time and he's he genuinely like you last me and like like you know how your families do, and how's he's not just there and to quickly grab the most expensive tease and get out of Like it's it's really cool to see, you know how to say like don't meet your heroes or whatever sometimes like some of these people have just been amazing to interact with and it really has been a cool experience. And it's it's crazy for a little little shot from outside of Toronto to get all these kind of opportunities. What's the coolest piece that he's picked up? Man, he's grabbed so much stuff. He's like he literally grabs. He'll get, you know, like a five dollar rapp tie or whatever. Then he'll also grab like a twenty five dollar Marvel tea just because like he's like we were talking about, he's a guy who really shops for what he likes. He'll go he'll go pick him through like the ten dollar room to see if there's any anything cool in there. Like he really stays two to himself. And I think maybe the coolest thing he ever got he's got some really good vanties. Um he grabbed it really cool, like an Original Star Wars te you one time like a really good it was it was nineties one but it was four like an episode six or something like really cool stuff. And he's a guy who just genuinely shops for what he likes. And yeah, that's really cool man, show out boy. I can't say enough good things about that guy. That's great. Well, we talked about the celebrities, but we have a lot of regular NBA fans to listen to the podcast and who I've had people reach on be like, man, I wasn't that in the event it you know, until I listen to you guys. But do you have any is sort of advice, um, not just on like picking up the best stuff, but like culturally like like we've mentioned get what you like, But for someone who's just breaking in the vintage now, is there any advice you would give them to maybe not like fake the funk a little bit, but just like yeah, like have a good time and like maybe pick up some really great pieces any any Like we don't want to be gatekeepers here, so yeah, that's one thing. Like, Um, I'm always down there to help people out who are looking to get into vintage or have questions that because like, everybody starts somewhere, and we were at a point one time where people helped us, and I think so I think a big thing in the panny is paying it forward and doing what you can to help people out. My advice would be, like we talked about before, just keep in true to yourself, don't try to jump from trend to trend. But also don't like just because vintage is popular now and there is money to be made on that, I don't think it's gonna be a get rich quick scheme. It's it's like anything, it requires a lot of hard work. It doesn't happen overnight. Like we're just kind of getting to the places where we want to be at and we've been doing this, I don't know, seven plus years and five years in our current location, and there's always gonna be challenges and don't expect just to you know, straight line to success is going to be hills and valleys and and but mostly just stay trude yourself, do things that you like, and don't try to I think some of the coolest stores are are some of the ones that, like they don't even cater the stuff that I like, Like, I just enjoyed the authenticity of certain places knowing like Okay, they've really curated around what they think is cool stuff, and people can tell, people can tell when you're faking the funk. Like you said, I do think, like we've talked a lot about trends and stuff, like there's like a certain mentality. I feel like people who think that, like, uh, you know, because the tea is like three dollars versus something that you find in like the ten dollar, like in the ten dollar been that there's just that three is the thing that you need to absolutely kind of own in order to feel like you have a really cool vintage piece, Whereas, like I feel like once you get in, it's like you can appreciate just like a t for like it's graphic or what it's saying or what era is coming from, and it doesn't matter what the price point is, right, Like, I think people coming in need to have a separation of that and not feel the pressure to to to need to spend the most amount of money, whereas they can still get the same fulfillment and enjoyment. For a lot of people um in that way. Because we talk about celebs and like NBA players, they obviously have more disposable income than say, like the average person who wants to get into a thrift ng and vintage. And that's the thing I always tell people is that like, hey, like you can get fulfillment and enjoyment in vintage and finding stuff at like any price point a thousand percent I think too, Like just the fact that you have a closet tool of really expensive tease or whatever doesn't make you have good style. You know, you've got to be able to pull it off foot with whatever, Like the people who are just mixed and matching you know, designer pants and like their most expensive vintage team, and like sometimes it's not a good fit. Like you can see you guys pull it off with you know a pair of rifted cargo pants or like a blank team that's really faded. And it's just it's stay true to your style and what you like and don't just buy something because it's expensive. Like a lot of times those teams are cool, don't get me wrong, Like there's they're expensive for a reason, but you can find some really good stuff. We've all blurred. Yeah, it's I think, um, I think it's a testament to somebody when they're not wearing the most expensive stuff and they can pull off a really good outfit. I know you're busy, guys, So I have one last question. You've worked with all these you know, amazing NBA players. Is there one NBA player out there that you've seen on league fits or whatever or just like, who's on your wish list to work with? And and why? Man, there's so many. It's it's cool being a part of a very small part of being a part of this like NBA fashion because it's it's such great style and so many guys are awesome. Um. I think Jordan Clarkson was like, like, that's gotta be Jasey has gotta be way up there. Um, Shay would be an amazing one. Mkiel's kind of keeping us to himself though, and I can respect that. Um, There's there's so many good ones, man. We're like even guys who aren't all over league fits. There's so much like just depth for style in the league. And I'm sure there's guys that it's never even occurred to me, like it would be great to work with them and they could be the best customer, Like they can probably the most interesting things and have a great perspective on stuff. So we're we're just super happy with any opportunity. We've had, all the amazing people we've got to work with, and we're open to working with anybody in the future. Actually, let me let me put a quick osterix on the somebody from the Toronto Raptors man, because we need we need we need somebody there like Gary Trent would be perfect. You don't want to get Scotty Barns because he might come and return it. So you know that one that's a boy of course, walked around my house screaming city boys and people and my wife is like, what's going on? You know? So I'm so embarrassed that that story has made it to the US. I was trying to try to keep that in the house. I was trying to keep that in and my favorite but that Clint was like and yeah, because that had a great catchphrase. So no, I think that I think the Raptors is a good call out Gavin because um because a lot of young guys obviously on that team, and I think they're kind of in that wave of of like they you have the stuff that that they would be interested in and actually wearing. Um. So as you know I'm around the team. You know what, I'm gonna put that interest on A five in their era, right because because I know, like I know Chris Boucher. I know Chris. I've seen a couple of times like when when we've gone to like certain events together in spaces, I've seen vintage guys come up to him and just like kind of drop off like T shirts and like kind of just like show them stuff. So like, you know what, I'm gonna trying to make that happen for you alright, Gavin. But meantime, yeah, what's up? You've been an awesome supporter of us, man, Um, I appreciate that a time, dude. Yeah, Gary trend Senior is a is A is a friend here too. They're gonna do that. No, but everybody should follow follow Vinta Nano five on on on I g Um, I can't tell you how many times Gavin's posted stuff and I'm like, yo, is that an excel? But non, I look forward to coming to the shop again soon. Um, And I'm glad you got connected with c J and I appreciate you sharing all the stories. As always, thank you everyone for for listening to running the break make sure you subscribe to the podcast wherever you list sin and please rate and review. Thanks again to all our producers behind the scenes, Pete uh and you know absence today but we're still you know, gonna show show you throughout Grace and Kurt, but of a special shout out to Pete during working during the five day Thanksgiving holiday weekend in the us SO shows too. Pete, and thank you for again for listening to to Run in the break Well. 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