Our guests are New York Times Beijing correspondent Chris Buckley, and James Griffiths from CNN Hong Kong. Chris Buckley discusses what it's like covering the opaque world of elite politics in China, how media works under the pervasive censorship regime, the government’s determination to control historical narrative and the discourse around sensitive dates in China, and the prospects of political change under Xi Jinping. And James Griffiths, author of The Great Firewall of China, takes us through a short history of how the CCP built an alternative version of the internet, and how it became the perfect authoritarian tool.

Our guests are New York Times Beijing correspondent Chris Buckley, and James Griffiths from CNN Hong Kong. Chris Buckley discusses what it's like covering the opaque world of elite politics in China, how media works under the pervasive censorship regime, the government’s determination to control historical narrative and the discourse around sensitive dates in China, and the prospects of political change under Xi Jinping. And James Griffiths, author of The Great Firewall of China, takes us through a short history of how the CCP built an alternative version of the internet, and how it became the perfect authoritarian tool.

Welcome to Rules Based Audio, a Lowy Institute podcast. In this series we explore the rules based order, a concept that is ever more prominent in debates about how the world works and how it should work.

Welcome to Rules Based Audio, a Lowy Institute podcast. In this series we explore the rules based order, a concept that is ever more prominent in debates about how the world works and how it should work.

In Rules Based Audio, we explore the rules-based order, a concept that is ever more prominent in debates about how the world works and how it should work.

Rules Based Audio

Welcome to Rules Based Audio, a Lowy Institute podcast. In this series we explore the rules based order, a concept that is ever more prominent in debates about how the world works and how it should work

Welcome to Rules Based Audio, a Lowy Institute podcast. In this series we explore the rules based order, a concept that is ever more prominent in debates about how the world works and how it should work

Episode 3 of Rules Based Audio is a story in two …