We should never forget what happened on January 6, 2021.
Thousands of MAGA fools, at the urging of the orange man, rushed the U.S. Capitol building in hopes of stopping the certification of the 2020 election.
Five people died that day, many more were injured as a result of the violent insurrection.
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Four years ago, as folks, this is what it looked like in the nation's capital, Washington, d C. As the House and the Senate tried to certify a twenty twenty election led by Donald Trump his supporters. What if they do They actually stormed the US Capitol, causing massive mayhem. One of the thousand people have been prosecuted as a result. This is what it looked like four years ago, and America still allowed Donald Trump back in the Oval office. It goes to show you exactly what kind of people they are. All day across social media, maga folks have been making excuses and they've been tired of the fact that the election results were certified today for Donald Trump. But that's a huge difference between how Republicans acted four years ago.
And here's the fundamental problem that we have. This is our biggest problem.
The folks who tried to overthrow the election, they are still in power. They now control the House, they now control the Senate, they now control.
The White House.
So what you're dealing with are insurrectionists, white domestic terrorists. And in fact, Donald Trump has actually pledged to provide clemency grant partons. These individuals don't be surprised if he does it from the US Capitol on January twentieth, because that's the kind of person that he is.
And so just as a reminder to you all, we knew where we were four years ago. I was in Atlanta.
It was the day after Raphael Warnock won the runoff to become the United States Senator. And I stood there in Atlanta watching television, watching the scene unfold.
Now.
Remember somebody asking me how did you feel? And I said, chickens.
Coming home to roost.
She said to me, you know what, you really shouldn't say that. Guys, turn the audio up, because people need to remember what this was like. This was what it looked like at the US Capitol four years ago.
Let the.
Now maga they had been trying to suggest, don't give it four screen. Maga's been trying to suggest that, oh, it was just a walk in the park. People were actually taking tours. No, you see them climbing through windows. They were gouging the eyes out of police officers. They were attacking them with flag poles. These people were creating mayhem. They had their Trump flags, their Confederate flags, and here Republicans who condemned this, who said that, oh these actions, we should never see this again, and what happened. These folks are back in power. That's what you actually see right now. I'm want to bring in my panel right now to talk about the because it's important for us to not overlook it. You've got a lot of people across the country they are talking about the certification today. I'm not solely focused on certification of the election because we cannot forget what actually took place four years ago and who was behind it. Doctor Julian Malveaux, economist, President Emerita Bennett College. She's the author of Surviving and Thriving, three hundred and sixty five Facts in Black Economic History. Also that I'm a congo to being a senior prophecies purfessor of Electors Schools International Service America University. Is the author of Lies About Black People, How to Combat Racist Stereotypes, and Why It Matters. A th recent Loundi podcast hosts of The Business Corner out of Philadelphia lead to have all three of you here. I want to start with you, Julian, when we talk about this day, when we talk about what happened, you got the folks who on the right who are like oh, you know what, that thing shouldn't have happened. The folk they were trying to overthrow the result of election. They were pissed off. They were pissed off the black people and how they voted in Atlanta, Philadelphia, in Detroit, in Milwaukee, and they did not want to see Joe Biden certified the president. And this is a stain on America and we cannot forget it. And we can't forget that. The people who voted not to certified the election, including the current House Speaker of Mike Johnson. Now a sudden, they go, oh, things were fine, things were fair, only because they won exactly.
You know, I don't know who this congressman is. I wrote his name down, but I lost it. But he was talking about these were grandmothers. It's hilarious, grandmothers who were taking a tour. And yet maybe one or two people got out of lyining. There was a mob out there. I saw a brother Dunn, the brother who he talks about his that three or four of them who've talked about their experience, and they're livid that the Orange man says he wants to pardon the people who tried to gobage their eyes out who attacked them with sticks and all kinds of things. But you know, this is revision, is history, and why it's so important to have truth is why it's so important. It's so important for them to deny truth the contextually, they want to erase that incident and they get, oh, these little old ladies were just walking through and something happened. We all know that's not what happened, and we have to keep telling the story so that nobody, nobody, nobody ever thinks this was just a garden club coming to see the Capitol building. We all know that's not what it was, but they would like to erase that. So you know, when I look at those pictures rolling and people have been running them on, you know, the media all day, and I'm glad they are, because if they don't history be written, history belongs to she who holds the pen. And the fact is that they don't want us to hold pens. They don't want us to have them. They want to just make it as if this was Biden's Justice Apartment gone awry and indicting what.
Sixteen hundred people.
Sixteen hundred people, that is not called a walk in the park, That is called mob violence. And I'm glad you use the term white extremists, white terrorists, extremists who basically and underline the white who basically do not want fairness, do not want democracy. But Kamala Harris, as always, she came through. She's a picture of what democracy is about. She was graceful, she didn't have any side comments. She ran the process, and that's what you're supposed to do. Run the process. And it was a smooth, constitutionally dictated process that four years ago the Trumpies and their friends refused to allow to happen.
Ohma call.
It's important for us to call these people for who they are. They are white domestic terrorists. They are the people who did not want this to move forward. Donald Trump became the first occupant of the Oval Office to ever try to overthrow an election.
We cannot forget that. No, I don't care what happened November twenty twenty four. They will go down.
They will remember it for this, and we must call him out for who they are every single time.
Look the way you let this out with insurrection day and calling the thing a thing. If we don't do that, then we are going to deserve what we get. The fact of the matter is, not only do we have to make sure we don't let this day be forgotten, we have to continue to bring it up. Because just this past weekend, Trump is at marl Largo showing a John Eastman film, and they he's a sore winner. He has to do everything possible to change the narrative about what happened that day and all of his denials of the election. They are not going to stop. Right when you look at Bush v. Gore, the Bush had a rupting No. They have to make sure they change the history books, they change the news networks, they change everything to make it look like it was, as he said, a day of love. This was the first time a Confederate flag flew in the Capitol. This was the first time that the United States did not have a peaceful transfer of power. We have people Brian Sicknick, Capitol police officer who was a Trump supporter who died, you know, because of injuries, and then officers who kill themselves later. Look at what happened with Lieutenant Bird who shot actually Babbitt and how his entire life has been destroyed. These people, in every way, shape and form, are trying to make sure that what happened is not told, and they got their own networks to do it, the Foxes, the o Inns, And that's why we have to be here with the Black Star Network because this was an attack and assault on our entire democracy.
And if people paid attention to.
What you wrote about in your book, White Fear, then people could have seen these signs coming. But we have to make sure that what we're doing is always correcting the record because this is a terrible day in American history, and at the end of the day, we have classless individuals who would have done this again have they lost, and we have to make sure that we're telling the proper story.
But Teres said, this is why I did not want to lead with today's certification, because it's real easy to try to normalize and say, well, you know, you know, you know, here's what happened today.
No, no, no, no no. We cannot forget what these people did.
And there are people like Senator Ron Johnson who was trying to deliver fake electors to then Vice President Mike Pince. It was people like Utah Senator might Lead, It was Josh Howley of Missouri, it was Chuck Grashley of Iowa. It was Ted Cruz of Texas. These despicable individuals. They were being helped, the Marjorie Taylor Greens, the Jim Jordans. The list goes on, the Scott Perry Pennsylvania.
It goes on and on and on. And the problem is these people are still there.
The people who try to overthrow the election result are now the ones who are in charge.
That cannot be overlooked.
That can be overlooked, Nor are the lives that were lost during the election. And I think you know, when you started it off, it was definitely a clear history of let's never forget because we all know that they are now trying those who are were I guess prosecuted for the taking the insurrection that took.
Place, is now uh, you know, trying to get off.
So now that that's a whole nother biing and I think, you know, that's just very interesting as we you know, I think Democrats, you know, and and thank God for Vice presid Kamala Harris.
With such grace and dignity and leadership.
You know, I think, you know, as as I was looking at some of the comments on Accent Facebook groups, you know, even magna folks like, not all of them, but a few were definitely, you know, a little bit alarmed and dismade about what was done to her. Because again, if there was a male, a white male, in that position, that would not have happened.
They would have shook hands and probably played golf afterwards.
But again, well, actually actually the whole time. We're gonna discuss that later.
But I don't want to say I want to talk I want to talk about again, Uh, this being the fourth Anna version of the insurrection.
Uh.
And and we just simply can't just just dismiss this reality. He's a perfect example. This was a This was a tweet that conservative commentator Eric Ericson. He posted this four years ago. Today watched this.
This is what he said. Shoot the protesters, weigh.
The rules, impeach Way, the rules, convict Way, the rules denied the ability to run for election again, and you know what happened. Eric Erickson supported Donald Trump and the same Republicans in November all Mitch McConnell stood on the floor and decried what took place, he and Kevin McCarthy putting at the feet of Donald Trump. But none of that mattered Teresa. And it goes to show you the kind of people that they are. They have no morals, no values, no principles, no ethics at all.
No, you're absolutely right, and again, history will always repeat itself. I think Republicans are the main cause and effect when they always try to say, you know, let's not think about the history, let's not think about slavery, let's not think about the sixteen nineteen project.
Let's talk about the future. But you know, the future is literally four years.
Ago, right.
I think what America Great Again was literally.
They talked about for the first four years was Donald Trump's position in office. And how yet people forgot so many for God, when he was in office, how detriment it was to everyday working families, even though they tried to say that they were a party of working families.
So it was very interesting.
I think Democrats, you know, definitely has seen a new strategy.
Right.
But I think we if we still keep it with integrity, if we still walk in leadership, if we still keep having conversations and spending funding where it should be, not just during election season or during the last eighty days or one hundred days, but if we do it year round. I think when we started having the remember when conversations about the GOP and what Donald Trump and the Magna team has done to American people and American families. I think the conversations will be a different in every city, in every electoral district.
See, I don't know, I mean, Julian.
I think the problem is that Democrats want to play a game a political reality that no longer exists and again and Republicans tried the same game. I mean it was Mitch McConnell. They they could have actually convicted Donald Trump four years ago. Had they convicted Donald Trump, he would not have been able to run again, and all of these court cases could have moved forward.
But they assumed that the insurrection was so bad that, oh, his career is over. The American people won't tolerate this again, for they actually did.
Here's Mitch McConnell again four years ago, and when everybody just listen, these are his words on the Florida the United States Senate.
President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. President Trump is still liable for everything he did while he was in office as an ordinary citizen, unless the statute limitations is run. Still lible for everything he did while he's in office didn't get away with anything. Yet we have a criminal justice system in this country, we have civil litigation, and former presidents are not a man from being accountable by either one.
That was with McDonnell.
But again, what if they do Julian They were like, oh, it's over, and what he kept saying it's over, It's over.
No.
It goes to show you if the American people are exactly who they are and they they accepted this thug and I and let me be real clear, for the next four years, he is going to be referred to on this show as the convicted criminal in chief or the insurrectionists in chief because he has earned those titles.
He absolutely has. I mean, when you look at these men who are guarding our capital, who were These were not people making multi millions. These are folks who are making civil service money. They've lost their jobs, some of them have lost limbs, or there's a suicide, there are a couple of other deaths that seem to be stress related, and he just sort of walks away, walks.
You know, there's the.
Walk of the Park.
People want to talk about the insurrectionists and the Walk of the Park, Trump has had a walk in the park. But here's the deal. This is about predatory capitalism and the consolidation of oligarchies.
In other words, you.
See all these fortune five hundreds, Elon musks, the just Bedos bezos. The cartoon that the Post refused to run is a great cartoon of all these oligarchs with their money bags going to pay homage to the Orange Man, or as someone called him, the Mango mafioso. Someone shared that one with me. I thought that was pretty good, actually because I got in trouble for calling him the Orange Man somewhere whatever. But in any case, the fact is that they're looking at ways that he's gonna consolidate power. They're looking at ways that he's going to increase profits or pedatory capitalists, that this terriff thing is going to cripple the middle class. Now they say they're going to do it gradually, and then they say they're not. They don't know what they're doing, but they're doing it. And the fact is that we have very few tools to stop that. We have some, but we don't have a lot. And the reason that we don't have a lot is because democrats are too nice in my opinion, and maybe it's not too nice, maybe it's naive. I mean, I've used to back in the day when I first got involved in politics, back in the seventies. I remember watching them getting on the floor and saying, oh, my esteem colleague, and I'm thinking what I would want to say, is you dirty, rotten dog, you know, or the you felon or something like that. But they's oh my esteem colleagues over there, and it puts this veneer of niceness on it. But there is nothing nice. There's literally nothing nice about what happened on January sixth, twenty twenty one. Nothing nice about it at all. They tried to upend democracy and I don't understand, No, I do understand. I don't understand why people voted for the felon anyway. But Jim Carville was on CNN Sunday morning and he said, oh, it was really about the economy. No, it was about race. Let's be real clear. It was about race. The economy is better. I mean it's not perfect, but it never will be. The economy is better. It was about race. And so here we are with these violent criminals that he's about to pardon. He says he's gonna partner some of them, and I hope that there's a backlash from his people. But you played, miss McConnell.
Thank you for doing that.
Anybody who was on that floor was traumatized. But some people got over their trauma real quick when they decided where their bread was buttered.
Yep.
You know, you know I'm a congo when we look at that day, when we look at the heroic actions of a Eugene Goodman, and when you listen to these cowardly and yes I'm calling them cowards because that's who they are. You look at these cowardly Republicans who all of a sudden, oh they've forgotten all of that. But their asses were saved when they were saved by these cops. They were saved by these officers who put it online. Again, I remember there was a reported was shooting the video when Eugene Goodman stopped these people from turning down that hallway, they were that close, that close to breaching the United States Senate. And here's a crazy thing the United in twenty twenty three, here's a crazy thing. I mean, everybody listening to me to understand when I I'm saying in twenty twenty three, Congress passed a bill honoring the Capitol police officers, honoring them and ordering a plaque to be placed in the Capitol. Republicans on the congo have yet to allow it to be installed, and in fact, today today today, Speaker of Mike Johnson was asked about that and he simply turned and walked away. These Republicans are shameful cowards. They're despicable. They don't support law enforcement. They only care about cops when it involves black people. They are protecting these fascists, these white domestic terrorists.
Don't like anybody ran faster than Josh Holly that day. I mean, the world saw this. And really, when it comes down to it, going to your last friends about them, and note their lack of respect for the Capitol police officers. They don't respect law enforcement at all. They talk about where to to fund the police people. How many times have they talked about the funding the FBI, the CIA, the you know atf all these organizations. They don't care, like you said, until it suits them. And when it comes down to it, the fact that they cannot honor these Capitol police officers and the trauma that they endured and the trauma they continue to endure, and now they're going to possibly you can be rest assured rolland that some of these guys who Trump are gonna party and are going to come back to the capital. They're not going to be banded that place.
And the.
One guy, wait a minute, one of these one of these thugs literally petitioned the judge to allow him to attend the inauguration because he was invited there by several Republican members of Congress. They invited one of these stugs to intend the inauguration.
And the Judd is like, Ah, that ain't.
Happening, that's what And I can guarantee those who may who may be out or may have avoided jail time. Did the whole convict choir some of that gonna play as well at this inauguration, Like this is a criminal enterprise and they're gonna continue to do criminal things. And the fact of the matter is, it really bothers me that whatever laws in place, is speeching the bait clause or whatever, that doesn't allow like House members or senators to be like prosecuted.
Because some of these guys were in on this.
There was a guy who gave the tour the day before, like they were aiding and abetting these individuals and they are not going to suffer any consequences. But we have to make sure that we have a long term memory. We can't be forgetting these things. You're talking about this now, You're gonna be talking about this next week. You're not going to let this be forgotten. But most people are gonna be on to Jimmy Carter, you know, funeral tomorrow. They're gonna be onto the inauguration next day, They're gonna be onto whatever's coming in February. We got excuse me, we got the midterms coming up, and we got to keep these things in mind. And you know, it's also not going to forget. Trump is not gonna forget, and he's gonna do his best to make sure people don't forget because he is obsessed with getting a proper narrative that's gonna suit his ego. But if we continue to tell this story, we can help change the tide in twenty twenty six when the midterms come up. And that's why I'm so happy for what you're doing tonight, Rolan, because he had it in a way that no other network that I've watched today has been doing.
Igor Bobik with Huffington Post actually was in the gallery that day and there was an almost three minute video that he posted, and this was from the video was posted January fifteen, twenty twenty one, so it was nine days later. And it makes real clear the danger that Eugene Goodman was facing and the danger that was coming the way. And for all these Republicans who get all these maga people, all these assholes who keep talking about all oh, it was a calm day that that absolute white supremacist Tucker Carlson, all the people on the Fox News who keep covering.
For these people.
No, no, no, no, let's remember exactly exactly what it looked like in this video right here.
Folks watch this.
Okay, let you do.
What you don't God know what, but.
Keep oh.
You know.
What, mothers.
From Teresa. Yeah, these are the people Donald Trump and sister patriots.
Yeah.
I just watched in Luther Vandroin's documentary and my mind is blown. Here are ten songs you might vocals on, but you have to listen close to.
Hello Teresa, go ahead, okay, great, sorry, Yeah, I mean, these folks are patriots I'm not sure what the American people are, but they are certainly not patriots. I think rediscovering with that definition of patriotism and upholding American values is something, you know, that we really just need to define again and again. But what we saw there was another critical action where we have tax paying citizens going against you know, a law enforcement, the same law enforcement that was UH it's warned to protect and serve and the.
Same ones that the Magna upholds to the fulls extent of the law.
But yet it's comfortable with putting, you know, an officer like Eugene in that position without and there's no consequence.
So there has to be some sort of consequence as it relates to.
You know, what what is happening, you know, not only four years ago, but you know what will be having in the UH in the future is a release to partments.
I just want people to understand. I just want people to understand what is going on here. I want people to understand, UH that that the people who were in support of this, the people who were backing this, these people are still in power. They're going to be in charge of committees, they are going to be going after they're going to be going after the January sixth committee members.
Don't be shocked at all if they tried to.
Go after Congressman Benny Thompson former Congresswoman Liz Cheney.
That's what they are going to do, and so you know, just understand exactly what is actually going to happen.
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