I've already discussed my holiday over the last week. It was not my favorite holiday I've had. Robin, No, we.

I've already discussed my holiday over the last week. It was not my favorite holiday I've had. Robin, No, we.

Ended up after seven days of he had two hours in which you and Raffi, your five year old, and Naomi, your partner, gave your daughter to your parents, and so you went to the beach for two hours.

Ended up after seven days of he had two hours in which you and Raffi, your five year old, and Naomi, your partner, gave your daughter to your parents, and so you went to the beach for two hours.

We had two hours at Malulabar Beach and that was absolute peak of the entire holiday. And I was a little upset on Friday, just talking about our upcoming holiday, you might remember, and you got off to Adelaide to have fun drinking wine and going around fireplaces your mouth. That was our last break on Friday.

We had two hours at Malulabar Beach and that was absolute peak of the entire holiday. And I was a little upset on Friday, just talking about our upcoming holiday, you might remember, and you got off to Adelaide to have fun drinking wine and going around fireplaces your mouth. That was our last break on Friday.

You are not happy.

You are not happy.

I was not happy because I knew you were heading off to Adelaide before what sounded like a delightful holiday.

I was not happy because I knew you were heading off to Adelaide before what sounded like a delightful holiday.

Oh it was amazing, and it was very spontaneous. I wasn't actually going to be doing that. But I have a very old and dear friend called Linda, who lives in Adelaide, and she said, why don't you come over. We're gone dough some winery tours her partner as part of a winery called Pike and Joyce, And so we went and had lunch there and we did a lot of wine tasting and did some really fun things. So nice, I know, but that wasn't the life changing moment because something happened when I was in Adelaide that I was not anticipating, and it's actually going to have really big implications for me. So one of the things about Linda is that she knows how to get into my brain, and she has a very different brain. She's very business focused. And over the last three years almost four, I have written a book. Yes, and this book has just sat there because I don't know what to do with it. And so when I first wrote it, I spewed out like two hundred and fifty thousand words, which is an obscene amount of words. Most books are eighty thousand, okay, right, So I spewed out this stuff over what had happened to my family and myself over the last ten years. And then last Christmas I spent another week locked away and brought it down to about one hundred and fifty thousand words, which is still a lot. That's right, that's reading, and no one wants to read it. It's really not great. But part of the reason why I haven't found anywhere for it to go is that I don't want it to be a memoir of someone on the radio. I don't care. I don't care. I don't think my life is worth that X kind of that sort of exploration.

Oh it was amazing, and it was very spontaneous. I wasn't actually going to be doing that. But I have a very old and dear friend called Linda, who lives in Adelaide, and she said, why don't you come over. We're gone dough some winery tours her partner as part of a winery called Pike and Joyce, And so we went and had lunch there and we did a lot of wine tasting and did some really fun things. So nice, I know, but that wasn't the life changing moment because something happened when I was in Adelaide that I was not anticipating, and it's actually going to have really big implications for me. So one of the things about Linda is that she knows how to get into my brain, and she has a very different brain. She's very business focused. And over the last three years almost four, I have written a book. Yes, and this book has just sat there because I don't know what to do with it. And so when I first wrote it, I spewed out like two hundred and fifty thousand words, which is an obscene amount of words. Most books are eighty thousand, okay, right, So I spewed out this stuff over what had happened to my family and myself over the last ten years. And then last Christmas I spent another week locked away and brought it down to about one hundred and fifty thousand words, which is still a lot. That's right, that's reading, and no one wants to read it. It's really not great. But part of the reason why I haven't found anywhere for it to go is that I don't want it to be a memoir of someone on the radio. I don't care. I don't care. I don't think my life is worth that X kind of that sort of exploration.

Were you just writing it for therapy? At first?

Were you just writing it for therapy? At first?

I think so? I think I needed to make sense of my world because you know, losing two husbands, raising children in such grief and stuff. But what Linda was able to do is go, you don't want to put this out just as a story about you. You want to do this as some sort of self help book, right, because I think my boys have a lot to say, and you know, being teenagers and going through so much stuff, it's their story that's much more important. So we were able to put a structure around it. And Linda's going, yep, we're going to we need to get you an editor, an editor who can take this book and then also interview the boys and then put the whole thing together. And what happened when I was in Adelaide is I found an editor. Oh cool, and she happening. It's happening. So she asked me to send me the manuscript, which I did, and I am waiting on tenderhooks. I can't even tell you. So I sent it to a last Thursday, and she sent me an email which said that she got it, and she said, I'll jump in and have a look this afternoon and send you through an overview of how we might work together from here to get this baby out into the world and helping people.

I think so? I think I needed to make sense of my world because you know, losing two husbands, raising children in such grief and stuff. But what Linda was able to do is go, you don't want to put this out just as a story about you. You want to do this as some sort of self help book, right, because I think my boys have a lot to say, and you know, being teenagers and going through so much stuff, it's their story that's much more important. So we were able to put a structure around it. And Linda's going, yep, we're going to we need to get you an editor, an editor who can take this book and then also interview the boys and then put the whole thing together. And what happened when I was in Adelaide is I found an editor. Oh cool, and she happening. It's happening. So she asked me to send me the manuscript, which I did, and I am waiting on tenderhooks. I can't even tell you. So I sent it to a last Thursday, and she sent me an email which said that she got it, and she said, I'll jump in and have a look this afternoon and send you through an overview of how we might work together from here to get this baby out into the world and helping people.

Yeah, that's heard from me yet not yet? Okay, when was that Thursday?

Yeah, that's heard from me yet not yet? Okay, when was that Thursday?

But you know, like one hundred and fifty thousand words, lot, there's a lot of words to get through. But yeah, so potentially this is finally gonna and each of my boys are very keen to tell their story. They have very different stories even though, So what my plan is is that I do the structure and you cut my stuff right down, and then the boys fill in what happened to them, because that's much more interesting.

But you know, like one hundred and fifty thousand words, lot, there's a lot of words to get through. But yeah, so potentially this is finally gonna and each of my boys are very keen to tell their story. They have very different stories even though, So what my plan is is that I do the structure and you cut my stuff right down, and then the boys fill in what happened to them, because that's much more interesting.

What a different experience. I mean, it's not, I wouldn't say it's necessarily more interesting, but what a different scope of your grief and then dealing with the grief of losing your father and then losing another father figure.

What a different experience. I mean, it's not, I wouldn't say it's necessarily more interesting, but what a different scope of your grief and then dealing with the grief of losing your father and then losing another father figure.

Yeah, and I tell you this is not some hideous book. And this was the other thing I couldn't cope with that I didn't want it to be this tragic thing. Like the reason why I think it's taken so long to see the light of day is because we now not only survived, but my kids are thriving, like they're really they're successful, they're living their best lives. And so therefore this has got to be a book about hope and about how to get through the tough stuff. And also, I guess my big passion is to let your kids fail because I didn't have a choice. You know, my kids were just stuck with this situation and we were failing all the time. But when you allow your children to do that, then they'll actually show you how great they can shine. So that's what I want the book to be. And it looks like I've got somewhere for it to go, and it's going to happen exciting, I know. And then you're going to read all about me, and I'm more terrified of you reading than anyone else.

Yeah, and I tell you this is not some hideous book. And this was the other thing I couldn't cope with that I didn't want it to be this tragic thing. Like the reason why I think it's taken so long to see the light of day is because we now not only survived, but my kids are thriving, like they're really they're successful, they're living their best lives. And so therefore this has got to be a book about hope and about how to get through the tough stuff. And also, I guess my big passion is to let your kids fail because I didn't have a choice. You know, my kids were just stuck with this situation and we were failing all the time. But when you allow your children to do that, then they'll actually show you how great they can shine. So that's what I want the book to be. And it looks like I've got somewhere for it to go, and it's going to happen exciting, I know. And then you're going to read all about me, and I'm more terrified of you reading than anyone else.

Oh, I'm going to be around a campfire.

Oh, I'm going to be around a campfire.

I'm going to do a fee.

I'm going to do a fee.

I'm going to get around a fire, drink some wine, tear pie.

I'm going to get around a fire, drink some wine, tear pie.

You're just going to have a quiet Ah.

You're just going to have a quiet Ah.

The fuel

The fuel