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In this episode of the Relatable Podcast, Jake and Ottie sit down for one of those chats that somehow starts with masculinity and ends up covering relationships, getting older, body image, health, dogs, dentists and pretty much everything in between.

Jake opens up about how he’s been feeling about his body and the pressure that comes with trying to look, act and feel like you’ve got it all together. We also get into relationships and Jake tells the story of proposing to Cassie in Bali, which is definitely one of the more romantic things he’s ever done.

We talk about getting older and that weird feeling of realising you’re not quite as cool as you thought you were. There’s plenty of laughs, but also some pretty honest conversations about confidence, growing up, staying true to yourself and figuring life out as you go.

And, because this is the Relatable Podcast, we somehow end up talking about Jake going to the dentist and Ottie dealing with his sausage dog’s health problems.

Nothing too serious, nothing too polished, just two mates having a proper chat about life, the stuff we’re going through, and the things we probably all think about but don’t always say out loud.

Have a listen, have a laugh, and let us know what you reckon.