In this FLASHBACK episode, Gizelle and Robyn discuss every facet of friendship, from acquaintances to close confidants! The 'Green-Eyed Bandits' talk about what makes a good friend, how to meet new friends later in life and ways they can improve their friendships. The ladies also respond to listener comments on friendship pet peeves!
Originally published June 7, 2021:
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Hi, miss up. What's up? Okay, this is reasonably shay dude. I am Jaseelle Bryant. What's up?
What's up? I am Robin Dixon. Thank you so much for joining us for our third episode.
Oh my gosh, I think we must be doing something right, Robin, it's getting scary. We are.
And guess what what? We pressed record? Yes, and we are recording. Yes, everything that we're saying. So last episode. Yeah, we talked for like over ten minutes.
And Robin because it's her job to press record. Okay, fine, it might be mine. Who knows if that didn't press it.
This is a collaborative effort. Okay, all right, all right. It takes two Green Eye bandits to press record, all.
Right now, yes it does. But guess what, we will never make that wrong a mistake again?
Oh no, because I was ready to quit, like I was like, okay, my our podcast days are over.
Oh gosh. All right, so we have a wonderful like we have a like explosive kind of episode tonight.
Yes, this is a fun topic. I think I know you and I have a lot of input on it. I know our listeners are going to be right there with us. Yes, Yes, agreeing, having you know, same shared experiences, all that good stuff.
Yes, And the topic tonight is or I don't know if it's tonight, but the topic for this episode is, hey, girlfriend, we're talking all things girlfriend. We're talking do we like them? Do we hate them? Do we need new friends? We're getting into it, we get into the girlfriend scenario.
Yes, because you know what, it's so weird, like it doesn't matter how old we are.
Yes, it's still like.
Navigating the friendship world. It's still kind of awkward, you know. You find out that, like, Okay, it doesn't matter how old we are, people still have issues saying we still need to be sensitive towards them.
Yes, yes, yes, But before we get into the episode, of course, we have our reasonably shady moment of the week.
So I'm gonna go first, okay, And since the topic is about girlfriends, yes, friends, this is going to be centered around that. So so my reasonably shady moment goes to myself, of course, and it's because I actually picked up the phone, okay and called two of my friends, you know, like nowadays, like you know, we just text, you know, you might say, you know, hey, g are you look cute on Instagram or something, but like you don't really pick up the phone that much and talk to your friends these days, or certain ones or certain friends with that talk all the time, like you and I, yeah we talk all the time, right right, So this is where the shady part comes in now.
Because I was confused. You just pick up the phone call on your girlfriends. When is the shake coming in?
The shady part is it was like thirty seconds into the call and I'm like, see, you know this why I don't.
Call because they was talking about nothing.
They was just a whining and a complaining, and it's like, oh god, now I know why I don't call or why I don't pick the phone up instantly. So you know, okay, along those same lines, So you have some friends when they call, You're like, okay, let me see what she want. I'm gonnack, I'm gonna pick up because you know she's calling for a reason, right, or it's gonna be like you know, you're gonna have a good conversation. Okay, girl, let's talk about this man, bad bad man. I'm off. Then there's other friends that call and you're like, lord, what does she want? I'm gonna god, I don't got time. I can't do it right now. I'm cooking dinner. She's gonna distract me. I'm trying to like, no, this is this is that. Those are the ones that you call when you're in the car, like when you're driving long distances and you're like, okay, who can I call and you're like, let me call her from back. So I'm in the car. I call her back, okay, and I'm just like, why.
So did you lie to her and make it an excuse to get off the phone?
No? And see that And this is the reasonable part. I am a good friend, and I know sometimes my friends just want me to listen okay, or you know, they just want to hear my voice, or they want to hear that I care, and I do care. But there's just the limit where I'm like, okay, enough enough, it's enough.
Well Shady Gazelle would have been like, girl, oh my god, I gotta go. I got a flat tire, Oh my god, I gotta go.
It was actually when we went to the music video that we were at Yes, that's okay, right, who okay, that was a good hour and a half. Wow, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, all.
Right, So my reasonably shady. Moment of the week is okay. So I am a huge proponent of getting rid of this thing called COVID. So I got myself a little appointment and I got my first shot. My back scene is in my arm, and I am mad at the entire world. Why because everybody said in itself, your arm is gonna hurt a little bit, but you're gonna be good. No, Giselle was flat on her back, Okay, I was. I was on my death I had chills fever, I was shaking. My kids were looking over me like, MOI are you going to be okay? And I was really not prepared for what came with that first shot. Now am I getting the second shot?
Of course? I am right that.
Do I think everybody should be vaccinated? Yes, I do. But I just want to say the world is shady because y'all lied to me about the symptoms and the side effects.
I mean I heard some people say they have side effects. You hear it all, Oh it's not that bad, Oh my arm okay? Or I was tired, I couldn't get out of bed all day.
Yes, well for me, it was bad, and I just want people to know that it can be.
Bad, right, yes, because I think if they don't know that, then they think like, oh my god, this thing's going to kill me, or you know, I knew I shouldn't have taken it, or you know, something's wrong. So yeah, it probably is good for them to tell you, like, this thing is not going to be easy.
Now I did, after I got to shot, go out and have drinks. That's a whole nother story, and we don't need to talk about that anyway. Let's move into the episode.
Is that in the rule?
Is there a rule or something? Listen, Okay, it is time to start this episode in which we're going to talk about our girlfriends. Hey girlfriend girl, how you doing? Okay? So, first and foremost, at this point in time in our lives, are we Drake? Do we need new friends?
No new friends? How's it going? No new friends? No new friends?
I can't remember how it goes either rhyb and sing the wrong song right now? Okay? So I do appreciate, for instance, you and I, Robin we met later in life. We did, and if I had the thought in my head okay, no new friends, then our friendship would not have happened.
So true.
Okay, So I don't want to block myself from new people that are coming into my life. You never know why God is sending somebody into your life, so I never want to do that. However, these women out here are crazy, right.
I think the older we get, the more you know, well set in the ways people are, the more like and especially if they've experienced some things. It's weird. Like I keep thinking, like, oh, it's as adults, you should realize, like you know, life is like a box of chocolates, and you know, you get tougher and you just kind of roll with the punches. But some people let everything they go through like scar them, and then they become more pressed to like impress people or you know, it's like this this crazy need to keep up with the joneses and to make sure that you are like, you know, the baddest one and or you know whatever. It is like competing with people, and I think that's when we have a problem. But I find and it's you know, this is crazy. I never thought I would say this, but like I'm making friends with like the sports moms that I hang out with, you know, from your kids, from your kids teams, right, football teams, Yeah, baskets and it's like, because those are women that I spend a lot of time with, right, and y'all have something in common, which is the game that your kids are playing, right, exactly our kids. Our kids might become friends, and but it's something it's like, it's funny because you're like, Okay, when I was growing up, but I've made friends with this person or of what I've been friends with this person in college. Not necessarily like you wouldn't have chosen to be that be friends with some of these people, but because you're around them all the time, you're communicating with them all the time, you end up you know, like you know, I kind of share before in a hotel room drinking all night with.
People, and that was episode one. If y'all miss that Robin drinks with these women that she meets and they're in hotel rooms and they don't make it to the games the next day to see their kids play.
We do, but do like with the one eye open, they're delirious.
They have no idea what's happening. Okay, So another question is when you meet these new people, do you google them?
Well, it depends, Okay, I feel like when you meet someone that is that comes in the room and is talking about what they do and who they are, and what they have and what their man has, and right where they live. Then yeah, I'm googling you, yes, right, and I'm googling your house address.
Okay, okay, okay, I'm not going that far. But I kind of feel like if you're in my personal space and potentially in my intimate setting, right, I don't know what's gonna happen. The cops might come. I don't know if you if you're a drug dealer girlfriend, if you had a criminal background and all of a sudden the Feds caught up with you, Like, I don't want to be around when the feds come.
But that's not going to be on Google. Oh, it's just not. So it's not going to be like You're going to be like Susie Jones is her boyfriend is a drug dealer?
About it would be on Google because this has happened. I had a friend and she had a case pending. Oh okay, and so that's a case.
Serch.
Oh well, I didn't it just ship. It just came It was in the Washington Post. Okay, so it just came up when I googled her and so so. Then I knew. Okay, if I go out with her and just have some drinks, there's a potential that somebody might come that night lock her up.
True, But are you going to be doing illegal activity with that friend?
No, I'm not doing any illegal activity. But I just need to know because.
I'm just gonna get locked up for associations with her.
I don't I don't want to be in the paper like Jaselle Bryant was there when so and so got locked up. No, I don't want that.
So instead, he's just going to be like out to drinks and like your head is on a swift.
I'm not going when and when she invites me for drinks, I'm not going.
You're not going to be her friend?
Oh right, that's mean okay, No, I'm not. No, And that's when Drake comes in now friends exactly.
Okay, Okay, I mean I think right. So, if it's a new friend she's got some a criminal record, yeah you might want to you know, stand back, yes, yes, But if it's a friend that you've had for a while and she got into a little bit of trouble, I say you continue to support her.
Okay, all right, So you know, because I know, and it bothers the freak out of me. That a lot of times, especially when when we meet people, they feel like they have something to prove, right, Yes, for whatever reason, I don't know. Maybe it's because we on TV. I don't know what it is, but they feel like they got something to prove, so they want to come to the conversation talking about all this stuff like bragging, yes, like name dropping.
That is an instant turn off for me, Like you you want me to turn my ears off?
Oh?
Like they're like, just you know, my ears don't work as soon as you start talking about who you know and what you did and what you have, And.
I'm no, No. The best way to make friends, I think, is to just be normal. Just be you. Don't try to be something you're not, just be who you are.
Right.
And it's weird.
It's like I think some people might hear that were We're like, you know, we don't want to hear people bragging, like, oh, well, maybe you're jealous of what they're what's coming out of their mouth. It's like, no, I want to have a connection with someone because I connect with them with their personality. I don't want it to be Okay, Well, I'm impressed by what you have and what you do, so I want to be your friends so I can benefit from what you have and what you.
Do, right, you know, No, that's a no.
Yeah. And there's been times I remember, like, you know, years ago, when I was, when we were young and dumb, we would buy new cars like all the time. Yes, And I remember like buying a car and I'm a type I don't like, I don't go around bragging about what I have. And and the next time my friends saw me, they were like, oh my god, why didn't you tell me you got a new car? And I'm like, why would I tell you that I got.
A new car? Yes, And people who asked that I got to look at them weird because it's like, why you why? Why is that the topic of conversation? Why is materialistic things the only topic of conversation?
Exactly? So that's the type of stuff like where my antennas are up when the focus is on materialistic things, or know what you have or what you do or who you know. I mean, there are some people and we we know we have mutual friends or mutual acquaintances that they come in the room and like, yeah, I was with Bobby Brown the other night, and then Al Sharpton called me, and then our shop didn't call you, yes, and they don't know you. And then I was I was at a restaurant and Hillary Clinton walked over and.
Was like I think I met you before. Like it's like girls, star stop.
We're not impressed, we're actually turned off. Yes, yes, if it comes up in casual conversation, right, you know, Like so I don't want people to think like, oh my god, well I can't share anything about my life, but it's a certain way to do it.
I have to make an admission. I don't like talking about anything deep, okay, or anything spiritual.
Okay.
I just don't.
I know that's real bad. That's not a surprise to me.
It's not surprised to Robbing or anyone else that knows me. I don't have no deep conversation.
And so people probably think you do because you were like a preacher's wife. They probably think like you sit around.
And just have deep bossom. Yeah. No, I'm not sitting around reciting gospel hymns.
Okay.
I'm not doing that. And I'm just I don't want anything that's like I have to, like really super think about it. So talk to me only if I just met you, about surface things.
Okay. So I'm so so word to anyone that Meetszelle wants to be her friend. Yes, surface her about the weather, talk to her about her favorite police to vacation and restaurants, her favorite designers.
My shoes, talking about my shoes, my earrings, favorite restaurant. And I don't know what the last and you watched on Netflix?
Yes, the latest Netflix?
Yeah, that's it. Okay, if you talk about anything outside of that, I would have had to have known you.
For a very long time.
Well, so there's levels to girlfriends, friendships, there's levels.
Yes, But I feel like, what about business? What if there's a woman that is entrepreneur and you know you want to you all kind of just start talking about what you do and.
I like that.
Okay, you like that.
I like that. But you can't lie.
No, no, no, we're not lying. We're not bragging. No lying, no bragging.
Okay, all right, So I like that. So if you're coming to me and we just met and we're bonding over business, the best way to you know, start up a business being an entrepreneur being the pitfalls of being a black woman in this in this world call I mean this thing called life cool.
Stay tuned for that episode that's coming Yes.
That's that's coming up. I love that, okay, because I always want to see black women win, right. But the minute you get deep with it and start talking about I was, I was, so.
What if she's like and God told me that.
No, the minute you can deep with it, I'm out and tuned out. I have tuned the freak out, I am. I'm not listening.
That's the reason why she's a multi millionaire, because she told her to do to open that business.
Okay, fine, I'll listen then, Okay, all right, okay, but you can't. There's again, there's levels to girlfriend friendship. Level number one talk about nothing, okay, level number two you can get throw some business in.
Okay.
But you know what I do?
You hate? I hate when I go to a I mean, it doesn't happen that much anymore because now we're on TV and people recognize us. But in the past, we go to like the social events and you're just meeting random people and the very very very first question out of their mouth is what do you do?
So what do you do for a living, I say nothing. I still on the couch me too.
I'll be like, well, thank you for asking, but I am a stay at home woman.
I just find it very pretentious when people come and they ask that kind of right, because.
They want you to ask them what they do because they're like, you know, a high powered they're like a partner at a law firm, and they like tell you that, right, Like I just I hate that question, And maybe I hate it because like I never I didn't really have something I wanted to talk.
Because Robin was actually at at home on this show.
If I was like a surgeon, I'd be like, yes, I am a brain surgeon, and I'd be like, thank you for.
Asking, right, right, Okay, So there's always I find like in a group of girlfriends, it's this girlfriends that you have in different categories, right for sure? So this girlfriends that you want to hang out with and have drinks with, sore? Are there friends that you like them better when they're drunk? Right? Like there's some friends that they're they're non drunk self, I can't stand oh, but when they're drunk, Oh, they're amazing, right right.
That's not good though.
It's not good at all. But I only want to be around you when you're drunk.
So then do you like push drinks to their way?
And I only want to be around you if drinks are being served.
Right, So so then that's a surface friend. Okay, yes, right, yes, that's that's a surface friend, Like you have no desire to talk to that person on the phone or to hear about what they're going through or you know, to talk about what your you know, right, no, yeah.
So and there's a friend that we both know and she doesn't want to drink anymore, right, oh yeah, and she's a dud. She I don't want to be around her. Like when she was drinking. Oh, she was the life of the party, she was the best woman in the room. Right, But now that she doesn't want to drink anymore, I don't want to see her.
I know. But then you have to worry about people like that, like what's going on in their real life that they can't be fun and enjoyable when they're not drinking.
But see, that's not this is this is girlfriends. I'm not married to you, that's not my problem, Like I'm not you know what I'm saying. We just friends. You know, you gotta you gotta worry about your own problems on your own time.
Yes, you do. Friend. Yeah, she's a surface friend.
Yes, I am the worst. Now, then you have.
I have some friends where I'm like, please don't get drunk. Why because it's like because then they become the one that's.
Like, oh my god, I'm so upset. My life is so crazy, like like.
They become emotional then and then they ruin your drunkenness, like.
They ruin your you're high, yeah, you.
Know, and it's like, oh my god, what are you doing?
Okay that whoever that is in your life, she's not going out with us. I don't want her around, yeah, because I don't want no crying drunks at the club. That's crazy. Okay, I'm so horrible.
Right So yeah, that like, but that's that can be like your real good friend in real life, and then put some drinks up in her and she's just like a DeBie downer.
Right right now, do you feel like girlfriends tell you the truth as it relates to their their whole factor, right, their their whole meeter right, Because that's really important, right, And the reason why it's important is because if her home meter is off the charts, She's going to sleep with your man, no question. So it's always like when she starts talking about stuff she's doing, it's like I'm side eying her because at any given moment, she's going to try to sleep with the dude I'm right now. Especially if she said her boyfriend was married, I'm always feeling like you might try to sleep with I'm not married. But you just you have no roles, you have no boundaries. I need rolls.
Well, okay, So the question is, so you meet a new friend, do you ask them what their home meter is?
No, you just listen.
When do you Okay, you just listen to the things she starts proping questions, you ask yes.
You know, hey girl, you know you married? No? Who you saying? Oh, I'm saying so and so.
But then this is another question that goes along with that. So, if you are in a relationship, or if you're married or in a relationship, do you even want to invite new friends around that are single you know? Or do you want most of your new friends to be in a relationship?
Hmmm, you know the plot thick. I think I think that yes, if I was married, I would want my new girlfriends to also be married or in a like significant relationship. I don't want no straggly single girls just around.
Right, because then that doesn't even work. So it's like, oh, all right, honey, you're talking to your man. All right, honey, I'm about to go out with Tracy. Who's Tracy? Oh?
Tracy, Tracy is my family? Can I play the part of one?
Yeah?
Who's Tracy? I ain't never heard nobody named Tracy.
Well, I just met Tracy. We were at the mall and I bumped into her and we were shopping, and like, she just wants to hang out and where y'all going. We're just gonna get some drinks. Mmm, what time you coming back? I mean, I don't know. We'll be out like a couple of hours.
Maybe it's Tracy.
Well, so she married, what's up with I don't think so?
Yeah. No, Now Wine is not gonna say no, but he is going to be He's going.
To ask fifty questions and call me fifty times.
Yeah, he's going. Okay, Just for those of y'all don't know why Dixon Wine calls Robin a thousand times a day. Okay, Like we've been sitting here doing this podcast. Now we're we're on minute twenty two. He's called four times. No, yeah, okay, she's okay, I'm lying, But Win calls Robin. Now if one thanks, Robin is out doing something she ain't supposed to be doing. That puts some calls or repeat. Okay, Wan Dixon is going. And Wan is the type of guy that, do you think something on the side of the road, and no he doesn't.
Okay.
Why is the type of guy that if you don't answer, he keeps calling back and keeps calling back until you ain't gonna call my friend? Yes, yes, and then he will call anybody that she said she was with. Okay, that's just Win. That's the nature of the relationship. No judgment. It's crazy, but no judgment.
Okay, he's just worried. Okay, thanks. The man at the gas station kidnapped me. Okay.
But I totally agree. I feel like girlfriends that are not that don't have the same demographic that you are living should not come into your circle. I mean, I just think that that's you're you're setting yourself up for problems, right.
I agree, unless you have like mutual friends that can vouch for that person. You know, I just feel like, not a random that is totally living the single whole life.
No, that's not going to work, Like no at all, No, not at all, and and it so so we're saying all this to say, it becomes very difficult for you to really a trust people that are going to be in your circle. I don't think that, you know, I get real nervous about what people. You know, if I have a conversation with somebody, like how they take that conversation later, like how that you know, I mean, like mm hmmm, I think it's a great conversation, but they walk away and they're like, Justelle's an asshole, And I'm like, but I thought it was good. I thought we had jokes and everything. So, you know, I always get feel weird about it sometimes. But the reality of it is you have to really have your spidy senses up with all people, not just girlfriends, but like all people, because people are crazy outide in these streets.
I'm trying to remember the last time I met a new friend, not like outside of the show. Yes, not because of the show that I connected with and like really developed a friendship with Hm. You know what I would say like Vicky Vicky Irvin, who is I met her on a business matter, yes, and that kind of you know, created a friendship.
Yes. And Vicky Irvin, you did your lipstick with correct.
Right, right, So we had so I did a lipstick lip gloss collaboration with her. So she's an entrepreneur. My real estate mentor introduced me to her because he thought that she could be helpful to me because he knew that I was just you know, getting into the entrepreneurial space. Yes, and so so that friendship developed, but it was it started more. It's I feel like nowadays at our age, when we meet people it's because of a purpose.
Yeah. Yeah, it's got to be. You guys have to be aligned in some kind of way, right. So so if it's not business, it might be because, like you said, my kids, because kids or your partners might know each other and then you guys bond over that. Otherwise it just like I'm not going and get my hair done and I meet you at the salon and we become friends. Right, That's not happening.
Yeah, no, no, definitely, And it's and it's like kind of weird when people are like, oh, we should exchange numbers, and You're like, no, we shouldn't. No, we should not, because first of all, I'm already not the best friend that I can be to the friends that I already have, you know, because I'm just kidding.
Robin is great to me.
You probably these days get most of my friend time.
That is true.
My other friends are probably hating on you.
I know. But actually that happened to me in the gym. So a very nice lady girl she walked up to me and she started asking me. She saw that my house is being renovated, and she asked me about it, and then she talked about the fact that she's got she knows somebody who you know, has a renovation business or something. And then she was like, oh, you're so super cool. We should hang out. Let's exchange numbers. Yeah that's no, I'm not that super good.
No, I'm not.
And I and she made me give her my number, like it was kind of like her phone was out and I had my phone in my hand and like I didn't know what to do. I couldn't back away. Yeah, I had to give her my number. And it was just like so weird, And I thought to myself, Oh my god, I hope she doesn't call me.
Did she know? Oh?
Okay, thank god?
Right's weird.
But but when things like that happen, it just makes me feel like this is not authentic. Like I want to meet girlfriends and it's an authentic relationship, you know, it's a great feeling.
Right, It's not like pushed on you exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Digital interaction? What the hell is that? Social media?
Okay, so I'm supposed to meet people on social media? Okay, for the record, let's just say, for the record, I feel like I have enough girlfriends in my life.
Do you Oh I have tons? Yes, I have tons?
Yes, okay, but so are you asking if on social media somebody reaches out?
So okay, So say, on social media you have like acquaintances kind of and they're trying. It's like, does that muddy your your interaction with them in real life? So you have people who I think are more friendly on social media than they are in real life, Like they might see you come afar and like not speak, and then on social media.
They're all like, hey, girl, how would you know?
You just know?
I don't know.
I feel like that's like people not being comfortable. Oh you know, like you, like, okay, if you see someone who's commenting on your social media, but when you see them in real life, they're barely like coming up to you and saying hi.
Oh okay, so they're social media friends, right, okay, right.
But then but they're like almost intimidated in real life to come up to you.
Yeah, that's that's weird. So it's kind of like you're hiding behind your social media handle exactly. Yeah, that's I find that to be a stalker exactly. Okay, Yeah, I.
Mean it's I just think it's more of like maybe they are socially awkward or maybe they're intimidated. But I have experienced that where people will interact with me more on social media than if they were actually face to face.
Right, okay, Okay, So I do have some girlfriends and unfortunately they're like sorority sisters, right.
And unfortunately they're sororities.
Well there was a reason. I mean, I love the fact that they're my sorority sisters, but like that's the reason why they've been in my life forever.
Right.
But then as time goes by, you know, as you get older, you change, you grow, and you see people who don't change and grow and then you realize they're losers, right is that terrible to say? Like they're kind of like they're stuck. They're stuck.
They're stuck. They haven't grown.
They haven't evolved, and you're at a totally different place. So how do you deal with do you do you cut those people out of your life? Don't listen to me because I cut people like I got a machete out here and I just be cut.
No, you know why you don't cut them out?
Why?
I guess guess what one day you might be in a totally different place, be a loser and you yes, and you might need your friends to love you unconditionally. Right, So I have you know, my sorrowers that I love dearly that I probably would never have even have even met if I weren't in the sorority, you know, So I wouldn't would have never like really been friends with them, and we are totally different people. I mean, the sorority is a good thing because it kind of forces you to receive people where they are, to love them regardless, and to kind of be their friend regardless, like whether or not you would be their friend or not. True outside of the sorority, and so I think, okay, it's you know, you can't be like you didn't level up yet, girl, So I'm not gonna be your friend.
No, not you didn't level up. But it's kind of like the the we're in a different space mentally, right. Okay, So I'm just gonna say it to the people. If you want to cut people out your life because God brings people in your life or a reason in the season, then go ahead on and do it. I'm not mad at you, but reasonable Robin will not.
Just don't be mad when other people cut you out of their life.
Okay, listen, I'm bem begging people to cut me out they life. I'm like, please, can I have it in writing? Cut me out right?
Are you sure? Yes?
Oh my God, leave me alone. But I do feel like, you know, there comes a time and place where you want people that can add value, right, and you want you want to surround yourself with people that are constantly allowing you to be your greater self. Right, And sometimes the girlfriends can't come on that journey.
But but why is it just because so you're saying, mentally, they're like they're negative or they are because just because they might not be on your level, they might still be able to provide some sort of support to you or some sort of you know, encouragement or you know friendship.
Right, Yes, yes, it's true, and.
Sometimes you want to keep that friend who was there with you before you are you were the person you are today.
Okay, But if we've known each other for like twenty five years and you're still talking about the same shit that you were talking about when I met you twenty five years ago, then there's a problem.
Oh yeah, well that's a big problem.
Right, Like if I feel like and it's not that I've leveled up and you stayed the same, it's like, mentally we're just not there.
Right, So have you said that to them? No?
I thought all that. I think that's rude if I tell people you are a loser.
Well, see, that's a conversation like what is okay to say to your friends and what's not okay to say to your friends, because sometimes your friends need to hear the hard truth and okay, if they don't receive it the way you intended, then that's on them.
That is very true. And to be honest with you, I am very honest with my friends.
Really, okay, I think, And do they appreciate your honesty? Hell?
No, hate me, No, I'm kidding. I think they do. And you want to know why, because I have so many friends that I've had forever, and they tell me things that I've said to them ten fifteen years later that helped them in that moment that I didn't know help them. But they tell me, hey, Giselle, I remember you said this to me a long time ago, and then I broke up with that loser dude and I found this other guy or whatever, whatever the scenario is. They repeat to me verbat in what I said to them, and so, oh, I tell you.
I was an oracle.
This is what I know. I'm going off the deep end. Okay, fine, but I do. I'm getting deep in y'all know I don't get deep but I need to get back to that. I need to get back to just like being brutally honest with people when I know you can do better and be a better person.
Right. Oh, for sure, I think, especially as you get older, you're not helping your friend at off. You can't be honest with your friend, Yes, if you can't encourage them to, you drop the negativity the toxicity and to do better. Yes, and if your friend does not want to receive those messages, then yeah, maybe it's time to drop them as a friend because you can't. You don't know how to be a good friend to someone that doesn't want to receive your friendship, right right, you know?
And I think this is good.
And friendship is not always about being a yes person. It's not about always agreeing with your friend liking what they do. You know. Of course we want to celebrate our friends and support our friends. But if there's something that we can you know, what is it constructive criticism? Yes, if we can constructively criticize our friends. I know I want to be constructively criticized. You know, I don't. I don't receive it very often because I am quite perfect.
Okay, okay, So and this is this is actually for me and you because you know, we've been friends, and we we have we're in this group, this circle. You know, we'll just refer to the show and a lot of times they think that we know things about each other that therefore that the world doesn't know. Therefore, that's why we're friends, because we got dirt on each other, right, which is true. But that's not why we're friends. Meaning I know stuff about Robin that I'll never say, and vice versa. But that's what friendship is. But the question is when you meet somebody new, like how quickly do you tell them like your business, your bi business, your personal biousness, because that's a trust thing, right You got to trust that person because you got to know you're telling them and they might tell one other person, but they can't tell the world.
Right, I don't. That is so hard because I feel like, for me, I'm not going to tell you anything until you tell me something, and so then it becomes like what comes first.
The chicken or the egg?
Yes, and I know you ain't telling me that, Like I don't even know how, Like I think it takes a minute, but like a very long time for people to really start sharing unless you're a really open person and you don't care.
Right, But I don't know. I mean, I'm not. I I always find that people spill their guts to me. I do not know why, but they do.
And then she tells me everyone.
And I did tell Robin. But I mean, they spill their guts and I think maybe they feel like that is their way to build a trust and then maybe they're thinking, I'm gonna spell my guts, but I'm done you right now. I don't care when I meet you, how I meet you. I'm never spelling my guts. But I feel like it's it's very difficult for women to feel a sense of comfort, so because you do want to have somebody that you can share a bunch of stuff with and that is going to support you and not judge you, and that's in your corner. So it's just a it's just a very fine line, and I have I haven't been able to balance it or figure it out right.
I don't think there's a real right time. You know, it's not like, oh well exactly on the twenty eighth day after meeting the friend. No, it's okay to share, you know. I think it's more of an intuition thing. I think it's more of just, you know, the vibe between the two people where you feel, okay, this person knows me or cares about me differently or more than someone else. Like it's so weird, like you can't really explain why certain people are closer friends than others. You know, you can have a friend circle of eight or ten people and there might be that one or two people that you just vibe better with.
Yes, for whatever reason, for whatever reason, maybe it's it's it's pheromones, it's just you know, chemistry, it's whatever. But like what it is?
We write what is it? What is it?
I don't know. I don't know, but I just want to put out there because you know, I'm thinking about my girlfriends and just relationships. And I'm the girl that if I see a man cheating, I'm gonna tell you okay, okay, and I'm going to get my phone and take a picture video.
But see and pictures. I feel like you have to if you're going to tell her, you got to have the pictures in the video.
Yes, And I'm going to like let you know, and I don't want to discuss it.
Yeah, yeah, yes, because there's there. There have been many, many, many situations where a girlfriend sees something or hears something and then she tells the friend and the man lies and oh no, that didn't happen, she lies, ring you don't need to be friends with her anymore, and then you're the one that's true, the messenger, the one that's on the out.
Okay.
Yes, So I feel like it's hard. I think it's strict on the relationship.
It depends on the relationship. But if that's your good girlfriend, I think it's your right to let her know what's going on.
So then do you think friends should when they kind of start their friendship or at some point in the friendship say look, girl, I'm just telling you, if you hear something or see something about my man, then tell me, like, do you think that should be a spoken Should that be spoken? Do you think it should be? Like, all right, let's everybody sit down in circle and okay, Robin, do you want to know? Okay, Jeselle, do you want to know? Okay, Susie do you want to know?
You know what I mean? And it's like some people don't want to know.
Let's write it down. We're gonna take notes so that we know. And so then when so when something happens, all the you know, ten girls in the group and the nine girls get on a conference call. All right, y'all. So Stephanie says she wants to know, So who's going to tell her? You know what I'm saying, like, yeah, I was I'm almost considering like texting my girlfriends and saying, hey, guys, we need to like sit down.
Because they're gonna be like, who you talking about my man? You talking about my man? Ain't my man? They call him home every night. I know he ain't doing it, but I think that should be disclosed.
I actually think that should be like, okay, a girlfriend rule, because I have had and I'll stay. Like in college, Wan I was, I was pledging delt and I was never around and Jan cheated on me, oh with a girl at Maryland.
Right break, I can't.
Breaking news one chid. You don't mean when when we were in college and one of so after I crossed, one of my line sisters found out and it was a whole like, you know, I didn't know that my out of the ten of us, nine of my line sisters are having these power owls about what do we do? What do we say? You know what I mean? And then it and it turned into a whole mess because I just needed my one line sister to come to me and tell me. But then it just turned into it was a mess in my relationship with that one line sister was kind of messed up for a little bit and blah blah blah blah blah.
All that I held that's why he put you pledged delta. That's a whole other story. But anyway, I mean no, like that's a mess. And then the reason why it's some messes because you know they're sitting around talking about you for days.
But so I feel like if you just if everyone just puts it out there in the air, you know, to your girlfriends, to your friends circle, and say, look, this is what it is, so we don't have to we can skip that part, you know, so tell me or don't tell me.
Let's talk about it. That's true.
Act like you ain't never seen it. Yes, I don't need to know.
Okay, well I'm telling you now, Robin, you need to tell me.
So I'm sending text messages.
Okay, So text mess text message your girlfriend group tonight, y'all and make that decision. Do you want to know? Check the box? Yes, all right?
And I think that's a good takeaway for everyone listening, Like I think that's a good that's actually like a good conversation to have, like when you have your girls night and you're drinking wine and so that's put that topic out there.
Yes, do you want to know? All right? So, typically at the end of our episode. We have our reasonably shady people other week for that episode, but today we have some changes. Okay. So we have put out to the universe some friendship pet Peeves. We put out there on our social media, and you all have answered yes in a very big way. Okay, So friendship pet Peeves is what we're going to be discussing on, yes, right.
Now, So we are going to go into let's see, I'm going to tell you the number of people that said one uppers.
Okay, So okay, let's let's talk about bunkers. Okay, what one opers is? Hey, girl, I just bought a new car and then you say.
Oh my god, well I'm getting a new car tomorrow and it's going to have.
I'll get a new car tomorrow and it is like the Bentley of the Bentleys.
Yes, I'm the only one that hasn't.
Yes, they only made two in the United States and I have one and Oprah has the other one, right, like crazy right?
Or like you buy a house and then your friend's like, well.
I'm going to go buy a house, and yes, how many square feed is your house? Minus four thousand, oh minus five thousand? Girls like that, like that's some bullshit and stop it right, like save it.
The thing is like your friend, whenever your friend has some news, like celebrate your friend in that moment it about your friend, yeah, glets them have their moment, and then okay, a week later, if the conversation arises on this topic, then you can share your news, but like, let your friend have their moment.
Yes, and stop talking about yourself yes, yes, okay.
Which you know leads to a lot of people said selfishness. Okay, so what does that mean and not reciprocating support. So some friends call you when they have something going on that they either want to you know, talk about or tell you about. And then when the conversation, when that conversation about themselves ends, what a conversation is over. And it's like, right, they don't they don't care about what's going on in your world. They don't hear about.
You know, I might be a victim of this, and I'm gonna tell you why. So everybody knows I have a friend named Cal, and every night me and Cal talk and he says, okay, Zoul, start talking about you. That's how he starts the conversation. And I'm like, it's like hello, hey, hey, all right, start talking about you, jizou just and I'm like cow noh, stop, Like I want to know about your day. He's like, the day was good, Okay, go oh my god, it's it's actually funny now. But it made me think, like, Okay, do I just give him like my side of my world? And do I never check in with his? And probably? So I am happy that he made me aware so that I don't do that anymore.
Okay, yes, that's good. Another one in this. I am so a lot of these. I'm starting to reevaluate myself as a friend because I'm starting to think I'm a horrible.
Friend because people said friends that are late.
Friends that are late, friends that are flaky Robin Robin can I can I tell you? Like my flake meter is off off the charts, blake off the chart. I literally.
One time.
It was going to Las Vegas to celebrate a friend's birthday. Uh huh, like New Year's Eve, Las Vegas. I didn't feel like packing, so I didn't go.
Did you have a ticket?
Yes, the ticket a hotel room I pay. Here's here's my portion for the hotel room. I'll get you know all that. I'm like I don't feel like packing. I'm not going.
Robin is the worst, the worst, the worse. You have to do better. You have to do better, to do better, but at least you pay. Because my pet peeve is my friends that don't want to pay for nothing, right y'all. Bitches are broke, okay, and I'm mad at it, and Gizelle ain't gonna continue to pay.
See that's the thing. I will pay, just so we can eliminate that gripe. Like, okay, you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't need you to be mad because I flaked and I didn't pay, you know, so let me just h yeah, let me let me pay for your love.
Yeah no, I'm not that. I'm sick of it. Okay, I'm sick of it. So guess what. Anybody who does not contribute from here on out, y'all not my friends no more? The relationship is.
Over, Oh yeah for sure. Okay. Another one guilty Ennis not texting like what you.
Mean you don't give a thumbs up or a smiley face, or you don't text back at.
All sometimes because you know why, that's horrible. I need iPhone to hear me, listen to me iPhone I, Apple, I need you to please give us the feature of marking our text messages as unread because sometimes I'm driving or I'm doing something and I can't respond right away and I just want to mark my text message unread, but because I don't have the ability to do that.
Yes, there's a dot.
No you can't mark it. Oh no.
At the top it says how many you Okay, all right, go ahead.
Yeah. So it's like once you look at it, it's like either respond now or forever hold your peace.
Oh okay, okay.
And I have a problem with I'm a little scatter brained, a little little yeah, a little I'm a little scatter brained and distracted. I get distracted very easily, and so like you know, I might open my phone and then like be like, oh let me let me text Nicole back, and then I open Instagram and I just start and then I start scrolling, and then I forget why I open my phone.
Yes, okay, I do do that too, but then you have to lie. I do try to, like, yeah, robbing, you're the worst.
So do you go back to your text messages and like go through them and say, okay, who do I need to reply to. Yeah, am I am? I all good on my text messages.
At some point in the day, I try to go through and make sure, like the top text messages I've either responded to or I've checked to make sure that I've responded to, or whatever the case means.
So, how many unread text messages do you have?
So so right now I have none because that drives me insane. So I have and we're gonna look, okay, okay, I'm gonna pull my little phone. I have three.
Okay, so I have twenty five, and what yes, I have twenty five, and I'm gonna delete this song because that's like a alert and you you can actually you can only see three on my screen, so that means the rest are like so Robin, okay, see this this this one, Oh my god, April third.
Okay, So for the record, okay, so sometimes I'll text you right and you won't respond. And so I'm assuming you are on the phone or something like you're doing something else, like you're talking on the phone pssibly or whatever. But I thought you were really doing something. I didn't know you were just ignoring me. This is a new level to our friends.
I wouldn't call it ignoring sometimes. Okay, some some of these people I ignored.
You saw that, do better, Robin, just do better, Just do better.
But it's not that I didn't ignore them. On I don't know what it is like. I literally might sit on the couch and be like, oh, I need to respond, and then.
She starts watching the view the end.
Okay, someone out there relates. I know that, And then you know why I know someone out there relates because I had so many people on Instagram respond that their pet peeves when their friend does not text them back.
Yes, okay, yes, okay, So friends.
Oh can I tell you the story? Can I tell you another story? Tell me?
And then we have to wrap it up.
I had a friend that texted me and I didn't respond, and then she texted me again and I didn't respond. She text me It wasn't that I wasn't like I wasn't ignoring her. I was just busy, right, and then she started like going crazy like calling, calling, calling and calling one and so then it turns into like, okay, I'm now I'm purposely not responding.
Robit is a four year old child and she's rebelling. Okay, she's rebelling against her friend that just wants to talk to, wants to Oh my gosh. So yeah.
One of the things is adults. One of the pet peeves adults acting like petty teens.
Yes, and that would be Robin Dixon. But she's good. I'm so happy that we had this episode today because we've been able to pick apart. While Robin needs to.
Do better, what about you?
I need to do better too.
I don't get deep, I don't, I just I just want to know what the weather is.
Your list is a little longer than mine, Okay.
I mean mine are like fixable. Okay.
Anyway, I believe that is our episode for today. We are reasonably shady, and I think I think today you might be shady.
Robin. I might be told a little bit too much, oh my friends.
Yes, and I think Jiselle might be reasonable. Oh no, oh my gosh, probably right. But we so appreciate you all listening. I think that in our next episode. We don't know what our next episode is going to be, but I do believe we might have a guest. Yes, so you guys have to stay tuned. Thank you so much for listening to us. This is Reasonably Shady. I am Jaselle Bryant and I Am Robin Dixon D. Hey, We're out. We love y'all. Reasonably Shady is a production of the Black Effect podcast Network.
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