Crime. Hello everyone, welcome back to Real Time Crime on your host Lee Lamar and I have with me oftentimes Dmitri. Hello, how are you. I'm good. I'm in Dubai, are i am? And I'm doing where in the world is Leah? Right now? I'm doing a the Dubai Comedy Festival. So if you're listening to this tomorrow and you live in Dubai, I'll be here till Saturday. And yeah, then I'm off to London. And what am I doing in London? Dmitri? You're going to see uh, what's his name? Andy, Adam to what the hell was his name? Yeah, I've dated three Adams in a row. I think there's a problem with me. Oh yeah, you got a little biblical problem going on. Yeah, I do. It's a one atom to rule them all though, It's what I'm finding out right now. So you're going to see I can only be one. Yeah, I'm going to see Adam Andy whatever his name is. Yeah, this is insane. So that's fine, So that you changed your trip to go see this guy in London. Let me just say this, this is like the equivalent of buying the first house you see. I came to Europe and I just fell for the first European man I met. It's like, come on, Leah, have a little creativity. Check the market. I mean, when I go to London, I'm going to be looking around, I'll tell you that much. Wait, looking around for what? For a place to live? Probably? Yeah, oh my god, you're moving to London to be with uh Alex and whoever he is? No, no, no, I think I think after doing our twenty three and me that we are certain, we are almost certain we are not related by blood. And it's tricky to do a DNA test after doing what you guys probably did, because I'm sure, I'm sure you share DNA. Yeah, so I think the problem is our children might be blue. But other than that, everything will be fine. I mean, what's wrong with having webbed feet? Hey, swims better, you guys. You guys could bread a whole thing of Like Olympic swimmers in Iceland, they have apps for this where they just go and check to make sure they're not actually related. It's a very small population out there. Yeah, they have that in America too, but most people don't care. They just do what they want. It's called twenty three and I did run it, and we did compare, and I guess we're not related. We could be fifth cousins or we could be not related. I think that's where we're at. I think we stopped looking into it. If you think you did the test and you're not sure, then I think it's fair game. Listen, It's not like we're playing with house money anymore. Okay, So can I just say, is it a crime to marry your fifth cousin? Not in Alabama? So when I said I was looking, I meant looking for a place to live in Alabama. That's right. Well, I wish for the best for you and Adam, and I know you're going to London next. And now it's a little variant, a branch off from the new COVID variant. Yeah, it's called the London variant. Where travel variant meet a man's parents. Okay, um, yeah, it is the travel variant. I think I might meet his parents. Really, this is moving too fast. This is not for me. This is fantastic. I'm really enjoying. This is definitely not too fast for me. In fact, I'm thinking we should do a live podcast from his parents house in London. Oh okay, if you're listening to this episode and you already hate us in this whole conversation. You know what you're in for. That's number one. Number two. Please DM me let me know if you want us to do a live podcast recording for the first time I meet his parents. For sure that will turn them off. How annoying is that for me to be like, hey, so nice to meet you. Will you do podcast with me? Right now? They could be like this is she's a celebrity. Hold on them, DM, you right now saying I want that to happen and then we can start hilarious. You're putting the d M in Dmitri. I sure am so yeah, yes, this is my life now. I don't know what to say. I think, um, you guys have changed. I think you look happier. I think I'm happy. I'm definitely fatter. So no, oh, we know how this is gonna go. You're gonna say yes, I'm gonna say no. Are you gonna say yes? I want to say no. Let's let me say look, my ass is fat and not in the pH way like completely with a capital left. That is what is happening to me. We have some crimes we should talk about. Is it a crime to talk about my body changing. Okay, guys, listen, and now I'm not pregnant. Everyone just don't even go there. Okay, these crimes are heavy. I just want to say a couple of these are really heavy and serious today. So I just wanted to put that disclaimer out there, and I will me myself during this We've got some hot topics that are very hot, um fiery, and honestly pretty upsetting. So the first one we'll be talking about is the shooting in Buffalo. Then we'll be going on to speaking about a student throwing boiling water in his teacher's face, and then of course we're back to Hollywood crimes, Andy Dick getting arrested again, and then we'll be rounding out the show today talking about the documentary Our Father, which is right now trending on Netflix, and it's about a doctor who impregnated a lot of his patients without their consent and now there's over a hundred siblings with this one doctor's DNA. All right, let's get into these hot topics. So you've heard about this case. This is uh just very sensitive right now, it's happening, it's currently in the news. So a racially motivated mass shooting happen in Buffalo, New York, leaving ten people dead and severe really injured. So this happened at a supermarket on Saturday afternoon, and officials say eleven of the thirteen people who were shot were black, and the massacre is being investigated as a hate crime by the Justice Department. In a page diet Tribe, the eighteen year old suspect allegedly details how he had been radicalized and describes the attack as terrorism and himself as a white supremacist. He was arraigned on a first degree murder charge Saturday, and was previously investigated in June one for making a generalized threat while he attended high school. On Saturday afternoon, an anonymous user on the online forum four chan wrote, just twenty minutes ago, I just witnessed a mass shooting at a tops supermarket live on Twitch with like twenty other viewers. The hate filled forum four chan, where all users post anonymously, appears to be at the center of the massacre. Alreadies believe the platform helped inspire the alleged attacker and encouraged users to share the gruesome video of the shooting. In the shooters manifesto. He writes about being influenced by what he saw in four chan, including how he was inspired by watching the video of the twenty nineteen mass shootings in christ Church, New Zealand, which were also stream live. Another mass shooting at an Orange County church on Sunday has reunited the gun control debate around the country. Okay, first of all, I want to say, we could do an entire episode on gun control and about this case. And then also, I don't know, Dmitri, if you looked, if you heard it all about the Orange County church shooting. Yeah, dear God, do you know. Okay, So that's the one thing I will say about Dubai. For those of you who know I'm in Dubai right now, there are no guns here. Zero guns. They laughed at me when I was like, oh, is it safe to walk on the streets here at night? I'm I'm scared of uh, you know. So we get Baba and they're like, what, there's no guns here, zero guns, And they think that it's ridiculous that everyone in America has a gun. Well, it is ridiculous that everyone in America has good It's ridiculous that everyone in America can get a gun that they don't need so easily, and and you can get one at Walmart. It seems we're making it easier. You can get one at Walmart. And some of them are pink to attract women perfect which is ridiculous in and of itself for multitude of reasons. But okay, So this guy is an anti semit which he said, he thinks the Jews started COVID, which we did. I love that no matter how sensitive, and this is not a day, how sensitive is. This is what I appreciate. If you you can't take the comedian out of you, like there's still you will find you'll find a joke if there's in there somewhere. But and you're not, I know, you're not demeaning this story at all. It's just funny, you know. But also, if you noticed, I didn't even bring up the anti Semitism part of it, because that's rarely mentioned in a lot of the articles. But when you go and check out the history of the story, he says he's an anti semit Um, he hates black people, and this is an obvious hate crime. The fact that it's not already labeled a hate crime and then they have to decide and investigate if it's a hate crime. Is ridiculous. It's a hate crime, period. He wrote it. He wrote it all over his semi automatic weapon, he did the manifesto, he's live streaming, and just the fact that where he drove what was it forty five minutes to get to that zip code because he picked it out, because that that's the people he wanted to target, right, and and he targeted people who also we're okay with being around black people, So anyone who was black or who doesn't mind being It's like, what I can't I can't wrap my head around these types of people because it doesn't compete a like this is inhumane in my opinion, it doesn't even make it's an obvious hate crime label at a hate crime. This man is a murderer. The fact that he was treated so differently than a lot of other people who are murdered by the police, uh, wrongly when they don't even have weapons, Like the fact that he just got you know, taken away in handcuffs. It's like, how does this guy not have a scratch on him? You know, I think in a lot of you know, a lot of people lost their lives and I'm just I am really heated about this. I think it's despicable. Um, I mean all of these and the the incident that happened. I don't want to steal focus from this, but the fact that the mass shooting on Sunday, there a Mas shooting on Saturday, and then a mash shooting on Sunday, and the one in Orange County was in a church and they thought it was because he was a Chinese man and they thought it was and it was at a Taiwanese church because of the tensions between China and Taiwan. They think he traveled all the way to Orange County and he snuck into this church, tried to convince everyone he belonged there, and then chained the doors to this luncheon shut and tried to superglue the door shut. Had a ton of weapons with him, and there was a doctor there who I guess lunge at him to try to get one of his weapons, and he was murdered. And he eventually, because of his selfless heroic action, he was able to um make it so that the rest of the people in the church at the luncheon were able to tackle him. That's what I saw. And I saw someone posted on Twitter and they were like, that was their doctor. They were like, you know that one person that died in the church saving everybody else, that was my general physician or whatever, and they said, I want his name out there and I want people to know that he was a hero and who he actually is, because sometimes you hear, oh, someone did this, and you know what, so much focus goes on the people that committed this, the ridiculous, heinous crimes and their names out there. But you know, there's someone, there's someone that saved a whole bunch of people. I'll tell you back to the to the Buffalo thing. It's like all the normal excuses, right, the excuses that came out after Kyle Rittenhos. I'm not saying that these two are exactly the same, but there's similarities for sure. Everybody was like, it's not a hate crime. He's not a white supremacist. This guy wrote it. He wrote all these things on his gun. There's no question about this one. So all the people that that are protecting semi automatic weapons and guns and gun laws and all this stuff that always try and make a counterpoint. I'm talking about the Tucker Carlson's and people like that, the people that do that and didn't get on and kind of they're still using their platform to warp people's minds. It's like, you know, that guy Tucker Carlson did just see when he was approached in a in a Montana fishing store or whatever, some guy went up to him, and that guy Tucker buckled. But you know why, because he's fake. He goes on and he uses his time on TV to be you know, to spread all this stuff and say whatever he wants. But the fact of the matter is, there's no question about this one. The guy made it obvious. Okay, so it is a problem, and you can't keep dismissing these things. Here's the other thing. His mom is now saying that his brain was clouded because of all of the quarantine restrictions because of COVID and he acted out from that. And I'm like, if you think that this guy is going to be able to plead insanity and they're just going to chalk this up to mental illness as opposed to what it actually is, which is a hate crime. This is a grave injustice. And then this is the way that they shut down you know, gun laws because in gun control laws because like, oh no, he was specifically mentally ill. No, but that's the thing that we were all quarantine for a while, right, But you have that being quarantine, staying home doesn't cause you to hate a certain race, Okay, doesn't cause you to do the things that he did. And it's not like a dispirit moment thing. This thing was clearly plotted out. Um. And then not to keep piling on stuff like that. I know I mentioned across and but there's people that say, like this, this guy is correct me if I'm wrong. This guy's big problem was the replacement theory. He's so afraid they're going to be replaced, that whites are gonna be replaced, right, which is ridiculous. But I marked this tweet because it stood out to me. Padma lashed me said, questions for people who were scared of being coming out minority, why is that our minorities treated differently? So you can't tell me that minority aren't treated differently and then be afraid of being replaced, because what are you afraid of? Yes? And also the security guard did shoot at him and was murdered, And I saw a tweet and said, oh, you mean the good guy with the gun couldn't defeat the bad guy with the gun. And and to that point, it's like, yeah, this is not how you prevent people with guns who wish to do harm is by more guns. Guns not the answer. It doesn't. Clearly it does not work. You should not need guns to protect yourself from guns. It should just be no guns. I'm look, look, I'm sorry. If you're listening to this podcast and you're pro gone, you are entitled to your own opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. This is just how we are viewing. I'm on this planet. This is my perspective on gun control. Is that I think that you know, I used to see signs on the highway in l A that would say gun control now, and now I see signs on the highway that say learn how to lock up your gun. Yeah right. And you know, the Second the Second Amendment was written around muskets and things that you had to like stuff and pushed down to things not semi automatic weapons. And I and like you said, if if you're a gun person, that's your opinion. I do believe that there are issues with the types of guns, and how readily they are available to just anybody. So and and also not to say I don't want to be a hypocrite. I've gotten to I've gone to a gun range. I had fun, I enjoyed it. You know, Um, do I think that those guns should be brought home to people's private homes? No? Do I think that, you know, these weapons that should probably be reserved for the army should just be reserved for the army. Yeah, yeah, I do. You know, I don't think that they should be in the hands of civilians. Man, we won't let them, let them, won't let them buy beer before there twenty one, but have a gun. You know. You know what's so crazy? In New York you can be eighteen to serve alcohol, but you've gotta be twenty one to drink it. I was a bartender in New York when I was eighteen. I was like, Hey, this makes no sense, and by the way, I'm wasted. They'd be like, oh, well, is it does it taste good? I'd be like, I don't know, I legally can't drink officer. It was a trap. It was a trap. But um, you know, I think this is also pretty to know that an eighteen year old can plan, promote, and execute a hate crime of this magnitude to live stream it, to live stream it. I mean, oh, um, that that part to me is mental illness. Yeah, because well yeah, I mean they're not They're they're not hiding it. They're not like I know what, I know, what I'm doing is bad. They feel pretty empowered to do this. Entitled and empowered and apparently encouraged by the other users on four chan. I mean, do you think that a platform like four chance should be monitored more closely? I mean, I think at this point in life, I think everything should be monitored more closely. And I know there's people that that'll kick back on that, but you know what, we're not trending in the right direction with with with You know, if we were children, we'd be told we're not quite ready for this yet. You know, you're not ready for the spicy food, You're not ready for this type of toy, You're not ready to watch this type of movie. And well adults that we're not ready for a bunch of ship. Yeah. I mean this goes into a censorship argument, and for me, I think censorship. As a comedian, I have very different opinion on censorship, and who am I to judge what's right and wrong. I think murderer is wrong. That's just me. Call me crazy if you want. Many others have done it before you. But I mean, it appears that there are certain places were more evil festers mhm use the word fester. I don't know where it came from, and just it was fitting it was. And I think that platforms like that really scare me. It scares me to think about the fact that there could be a lot of like minded people who want to commit evil acts, so evil to take another person's life, and then think that there are other people who want to watch that happen in real time, and that there was no way to stop it. There was no one watching who thought maybe I should call the cops, you know, Like that's like, that's like if the KKK was live streaming on YouTube, like probably not gonna happen, you know what I mean. Like, but that's the thing is maybe it could happen. I don't know. That's what's so scary about this, the fact that it's a anonymous although I do wonder to a certain extent, like how anonymous are you actually on the Internet, because can't hackers find your IP address and locate where you are even if you're using a fake user name and blah blah blah, like isn't how how can you be a anonymous I don't see that you can be. I mean, as much as we just said about tracing people and tracking people, and you know, I don't think I don't. I'm not a big fan of censorship, but I do think that certain things safety wise. I'm not saying like companies should be on top, but there are obviously, you know, the FBI and stuff there are. I know they do the best that they can. I read something that somebody said it is impossible to monitor all the hate that is out there on the Internet right now, and that's scary as ship. Yeah. So with that, with that in mind, I think it's up to everybody to kind of, like you said, when you see something and be like, oh, this seems a little off reported to you. See that uper driver, I want to give us up to him. I don't know his name, and I don't know if he was driving an uber And this couple gets it, starts to getting in his car and there they maybe they were intoxicated, steamed like it. But the first thing the woman said was oh good Oh what guy, Thank goodness, I's afraid you weren't gonna speak American or English whatever, and he's excuse me, and she kind of repeated again. And then the guy was getting in the car and he's like, you know what, get out. I'm not I'm not taking He goes, that's inappropriate. He goes, I'm not taking this fair, I'm not taking this ride. So I'm canceling it can get out. I saw that. And then when the guy gets in, he's like, you're an asshole. You're an asshole. And he's like, you're a racist, and then he said a really dirty word. He said something disgusting when he got something that proved his racism on the way out. Yeah, and you know, he just stood his ground immediately, a true ally a student through boiling water onto a teacher's face. And then the principle didn't call nine one one, Okay, So this so it happened in Boston this month, apparent at the Kindley Middle School in May five. According to the book Boston Police Department, the boy was heating up ramen noodles in the microwave, but tried to put a textbook inside, and the teacher told him not to do that because it was super dangerous, and she tried to take the book away from him, and then he snatched it back, and then he threw a cup of boiling hot ramen noodles at her face, and then the principle didn't call nine on one. Instead, the teacher received a medical treatment from the school's nurse. The teacher she says that she was in excruciating pain, obviously, and then she was hospitalized for the injuries, and the student was charged as a juvenile with aggreaated assaults and I guess the school released the statement saying, this is an unfortunate incident that took place at the McKinley and actions were taken to ensure the safety of the staff member involved and appropriate interventions have occurred. Follow up questions, so what are so school? What are those safe things that are that admitted safe for teachers? Now? How is that not going to happen again? So? Number one, I was never I never had access to a microwave when I was in middle school. No, that's interesting, I'm like, why what that mean? No sense to me? That's number one. Number two, um, I could see the principle not one in two if that's this cool nurse like, oh, she knows how to handle this situation. But yeah, kind of. But I mean no, I mean, this is this is really tragic. I wonder if she'll have permanent scarring on her face. I mean probably, and you know what, very possible. I shouldn't say probably, very possibly. And part of that could be because no offense to the school nurse, but an injury of that severity. Listen, if a student had gotten hot water thrown in their face, would they have sent them to the nurse, No, because they would have been slapped with lawsuits left and right. No, And because it's a serious thing. So why the teacher was treated any differently for the image of the school, for the image of the prince. I mean, I don't want a pass judgment on stuff that I don't know about too much about. But that's what you can do. I guess when you're on a podcast, you do your research and then you say what you think. And what I think is that was handled piss poor, right, I mean, that's insane. And I'm not saying anything about the student. I think whatever happened happened I don't know enough about the student of the family life or anything like that, but what I will focus on now is the Principle's reaction to that. It sends a message. It puts that teacher in in in harm just in healing from from the process of healing, and it puts it can't make other teachers feel safe. This is didn't sound so annoying, and I don't care. Do you think if the teacher was a man, the Principle would have taken it more seriously. It's very possible. Yeah, I mean, I can't rule that out now. And and you know, Dmitri, there's actually no greater feeling than getting you to laugh. I don't know if you guys know this, but either out to follow Dmitri on Instagram. His Instagram stories are hilarious. It's joke after joke after joke, and they're always so funny. And I'm very glad you posted the most recent one, which was of the tiny palm tree. Just go to his instagram. You'll see what I'm talking about. It's very funny. And so if I can get to me tree to laugh, I feel I feel honored, like I've done my job for the day. That's very nice. Do you give me a la quite a bit? Go on? Okay, Um, we just gotta let Adam know that. Okay, but also okay, here's here. Are there more questions that I have? Do you think that the principle didn't call nine one one because he didn't want to bring negative attention to the school. Give me the reason why he would not call nine one someone got squirting hot water thrown in their face. Yeah, I mean he because he took the wrong action will get more negative attention as opposed to if he took the appropriate action. I think this teacher deserves compensation, yo, for sure. And but that's what we say all these people. There's some disconnect, so it's the same thing. Oh, I didn't want negative attention, so I didn't call nine one one when someone was burned with scrolling hot water. That's what If I was a school nurse, I'd be like, are you crazy? Why don't? This is not for me? This is so disturbing. I mean, the fact that there's so much disrespect from students and there's an increasing number of violence towards teachers from students right now. It's like the fact that teachers need protection is almost crazy. It's like, these are the people that are trying to help you in life. So if you want to hurt the helpers, there's the screw loose or two. Well, there's a lot and again not picking on this one student. Obviously there's something went or right here. But there are people that think that they they don't need help. They everyone, not everyone. A lot of people think that they're smarter than everyone else, they don't need help. But don't I know that used to be me? Baby? Did I learn the hard way? All right? Yeah, I'd like to know. I wish I could look into this scenario and I could see what is happening now. I'd like to see what's happening at that school. I'd like to see what happened when those parents found out what happened, you know, the whole thing. There's there's a lot of questions that that I have about this whole scenario. I mean, do we think that there should be courses that teach kids about respect for authority and the consequences of breaking those rules, And who would even teach them because they don't respect authority? The problem is those courses needed to be taught to their parents as well. So I think you can teach a kid about respect, and if they go home and that's stuff is all awry, then what's gonna happen. It's probably gonna get dismissed. It sounds like kids don't fear their parents enough these days. Yeah, and there are a lot of kids out there that are terrified at their parents, and and and I feel, you know, obviously my heart goes out to those situations as well. But yeah, I mean, the problem is there's not enough respect going around for other people. All the all the stuff that we've talked about, it comes down to respecting other people. I think it comes from top down because people disrespect politicians so much. It comes from the leadership all the way down. They're like, well, if I don't respect the president, if I don't respect the leadership or the governor or the why would I respect these other people? M hm, And I go to jail in Dubai. Okay, So speaking of going to jail, Andy Dick not for the first time, not for the first time, arrested for felony sexual battery in Orange County. Actor and comedian Andy Dick was escorted out of an RV trailer in Orange County and later handcuffed on Wednesday after a younger man claimed the comedian sexually assaulted him. I'm just gonna ask you all if you want after the podcast, check out the YouTube feed. Everything is caught on video. It's all there. The clip shows three officers escorting Andy from the trailer towards too waiting police vehicles. According to Tim z And, he's been living in the trailer park with a group of live streamers and r vs for quite some time now, and they say that the alleged victim was taken to a local hospital for an assault examination. Andy posted be on Thursday night after he was arrested on suspicion of felony sexual battery against an adult male YouTuber. Theft year old has not yet been formally charged with crime, as the d a's Office has requested that the Orange County Sheriff's Department investigate the felony battery claims. Further, during a live stream, the unidentified victim can be heard saying to Andy Dick, why did you assault me in my sleep, to which the actor responded, I never assaulted you in your sleep. Can you leave me alone? There's an August tenth court date, and then the arrest comes a month after a man at a Las Vegas home where Andy Dick had been living pulled out a gun during an argument. That incident was also captured on live stream. He was fired from an independent film set in twenty seventeen called Raising Buchanan over sexual harassment allegations including kissing, licking, groping, and making lewd propositions to people on set. Man Andy Dick has been in and out trouble for so long. Now, Well, why do you think he's like constantly in trouble? I think, watch this, Watch this video. This is I'm not making light of the the what's being claimed here, which is the sexual assault, but this video, even the guy realizing that something might have happened, it is clearly still strung out in this video and trying to piece things together. The whole thing is like, listen, I know, Andy says, why did you steal my cocaine? I'm sure there was heavier stuff to me, reeks, maybe there was meth or whatever. These guys are so strung out and they don't even know what is happening, and it's it's the whole thing is disturbing it, Like you said, Andy Dick has a long history of things like this. Do you remember it was almost probably a couple of decades ago, where I don't because I maintained a right, right, right. Well, I thought maybe it was a folk tale that was told to you, but he was. He went picked up drugs from like people on the street right down and like, and he brought them back to party at his house, the house where his child and the mother of his child, I think we're sleeping in like a different wing. And then he got so strong out he passed out. Those guys, robbed the house and left. It's like bad decision after bad decision. He has sexually assaulted all right. So obviously there are allegedly a lot of claims about Andy Dick's actually assaulting multiple different people. And I think because he's a comedian and an actor, people have a little bit more of leeway with him, a little soft spot for who the person is that they thought he was. And addiction gets the best of a lot of people, and I've seen it ruined so many people's lives all the way, all the way completely. And this is one of those sad Hollywood cases of someone who is very talented and very very deeply disturbed. Yeah, and so troubled and this but this is a common story, you know, And it's only it's up to the person if they want to get help. I mean, this is not a secret. Robert Downey Jr. Used to be a heroin addict. You know. They used to find him asleep on people's front lawns. That have to be like, Robert Downey Jr. Is on my front lawn, can someone come get him? He walked into the neighbor's house by accident one time. Yeah, I'd be like, you can come into my bedroom, Robert Downey Jr. And then I'll call someone to see if he needs some help. But um no, I mean, you know this happens. You know, drug addiction is no secret in Hollywood. A lot of people who seek this sort of attention and validation are people who are deeply sad and feel deeply lonely and feel a deep need for validation. And it comes out in a lot of ways, and a lot of people comes in drug addiction. And this is clear clearly an example of that. I'm not only the people that are sorry, go ahead, no, no, no, it's just it's sad. I think it's sad. It is sad, and it's sad not only for the people that the Andy Dicks of the world, but this other the other two voices in the video, man like what's happened? Like they don't even know where they are. This guy is he was in a situation. He doesn't even know how he got in it, Like it's just I don't know, it's you know, like you said, guns aren't your thing. Guns are my thing. Hard these hardcore drugs are not my thing either, And I watched the video like that, and I just think, what, like, how does that even happen? Like yeah, listening to them when he was saying, I think we watched Obviously there are a lot of videos, but I think we probably watched the same one where he's like I smelled myself and it felt like there was like a foreign, yeah, substance on me that that was not like a bottles. He couldn't even figure out what he was saying, but he knew that he was like, I think you were rubbing me with lotion. I mean it was just so odd and uncomfortable. It's just watching and Andy. Andy gives a reason why he thinks that might have been yeah. I mean, you know, watch the vedeo if you can stomach it. It's obviously you don't see anything visually disturbing except for them trying to figure this out. And it's visually disturbing that sense because they was strung out on drugs. But I don't know. I'm sure you can find it on YouTube. If not, click the link in the email that our producer Tira sent to us. That's how I saw it. Anyway, Welcome to Hell. I'm Satan and today it is hot in here. Okay, Andy Dick, I hope you get better. Man. I was once in the in the Comedy Store and there was there was you know, in between sets, and Andy Dick got up on stage just he didn't even do he started taking off his pants. Yeah, and Pauli Shora jumped up and he was like, hey man, he was kind of talking and he talked him out of it, and I was like, man, for Paul Shore to have to be the voice of reason, like on just a regular night at the comedy store, it's like, that's the first That's when I saw for firsthand him just being out of his mind and doing something. Luckily that like that's all it was, but it was like there's something, there's something off there. Yeah, and and um, Pauli's lovely and um, you know, thanks, thanks, and thank you to Mitsy for making the Comedy Store, and thanks Polly for saving a lot of people's eyeballs from something they didn't want to see. Anyway, Time to cut the break, obviously, before we get into something that's real weird and heavy and awkward and is it my dad? We'll find out soon. Don't touch that dial. We'll be right back, and welcome back to Real Time Crime. I hope you didn't want a YouTube video in the middle that made you uncomfortable about Andy Dick. But if you did, welcome back. So glad you made it here and then you managed not to vomit and and run away, run away, run away. It was running Where are you going? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, you guys. So, I'm sure a lot of you have already watched this documentary because it's trending on Netflix, and we watch everything that's being fed to us and we're told to watch. But this documentary especially is very interesting. It's called Our Father and it's the doctor sperm donor case. So the former fertility doctor Donald Klein has been accused of using his own sperm to inseminate women for decades in his Indianapolis clinic. The Netflix doc our Father details he Kline would lie to women seeking treatment by saying he was inseminating them with donor sperm, when in fact he was using his own. One woman in particular, name Jacoba Ballard, decided to do a DNA test to find out why she looked nothing like her parents. She came out to find out that she matched with seven other siblings. She reached out to these half siblings on twenty three and me and she started discovering more and more matches we're popping up. She then began connecting the dots and realized Dr Klein had secretly fathered dozens of children in the Indianapolis area without knowledge or consent. As of right now, Klein has fathered a hundred children, and they expect that number to grow as more people sign up for DNA tests. Klein's now in his eighties. He's still alive and lives in Indiana, where he inseminated all of his female patients, but he still hasn't confessed to a motive. The docs suggests that Klein was inclined. Klein was inclined. Clin was inclined to do so, possibly because he might have been involved in a cult like group called Quiverful, a philosophy that encourages procreation as a way to maintain the Aryan race. Awkward, Despite scientific proof of what he did and media attention, Klein was only slapped with one year's probation and a five hundred dollar fine because it's not illegal. It's not illegal, which makes no sense because you were putting without If you're doing something that consent, it should already be illegal. Is it illegal to own a restaurant and put something in the meat that's not you're not being told is in the meat? Yes? Right, Oh, I don't know. That's ask McDonald's. But if if you if you run a restaurant and you're putting stuff in and not telling people about it, and it could potentially alter there, make them sick, or alter the left, whatever it may be, that seems like it's a problem. So I understand people went in there looking for sperm donors, but I'm pretty sure there's probably a process as to how and who and not like hey, just give me yours. Also, I'm kind of confused that she said she didn't look like either of her parents, Like, why doesn't she look like her mom at all? Well, this guy's probably got strong genes or something. But this is it's sick people like this. This is why you can't go to Abisa and meet a guy from London and just be happy, not knowing that your there's no chance you're related. That it's be sick people like this. This is why you have to do DNA tests before you go meet someone's parents. Okay, look, look, so gang is calm, We're going way back. Okay, Genghis Klein Genghas Klein in Indiana was creating what he thinks a way to preserve the Aryan race, or so they believe. Now, I did a little googling on Quiverful because I want to know more about it. Um did you did you ever hear quiverful before this? Not? So. It's a Christian religious movement, and it's a reference to some like arrows in the hands of a warrior, our sons born in one's youth, Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. Members believe that God knows how many children are right for them, and that creating large families will help spread the word of the Bible. They also don't believe in birth control. That's clear. The womb is such a powerful weapon. It's a weapon against the enemy. Quiverful leader Nancy Campbell told NPR, my greatest impact is through my children. The more children I have, the more ability I have to impact the world for God. She's not wrong in that one sense, So I'm not the God part. But yeahs like the world by having more of her. But newsflashy starts having no no. She says, if everyone starts having eight to twelve children, imagine in three generations what we'll be able to do, reclaim sinful cities like San Francisco for the faithful. We'll be able to wage very effective massive boycotts against companies that are going against God will. It's like huh. Also, apparently in the waiting room of his clinic, he had the Bible quote from Jeremiah one five before I formed you in your mother's womb, I knew you, which is one of quiver foals. I guess the central quotes that they go by. Anyway, what a sweetheart, I mean, you know what I originally when I heard the story I was like, Oh, it's just a sick that's doing you know. But now I was like, it probably can't get worse than this, but it has. It has gotten worseeness because this isn't like a guy with an ego. This is a guy and and quiverful of the whole thing. It's like, it goes back to what we were saying before about people feeling like a certain races. I don't I don't listen, I don't want to be around I don't want everybody to be like me, you know what I mean. It's like, that's not how the world works. You're supposed to have different types of people. And the fact that you can't figure out how to respect other people with their beliefs or what they look like or whatever, and you want everybody be like you is insane. So do us a favor. Stop having kids. If you're one of those people. It's nice to know that when I look in the mirror, I know exactly who my parents are and that they're not Mr Klein, Yeah, doctor, if we can call him that also hold off on that, Yeah, yeah. I mean. The other thing is like I feel like I know men who have done this without doing it uh, what, Like, I know men who have children with five different women, So there are five half siblings in there in a traditional sense. Yeah, not, they didn't inseminate them, right, Like, I'm like, but in a way, I think if this was my situation, I would be excited to find out I have more siblings. I feel like maybe I get along with one of them. That would be exciting. Except then there's also in your mind, you're like, uh, if you're not that type of person, right, and you read up like we just did, you're like, oh god, the guy that's technically my biological father is a fucking nutcase. Oh yeah, my dad's a racist bigot. Yeah, that's probably not a fun game. But but I think, you know, it's like they're self aware enough to think that that's disgusting, so they don't operate that way. Yeah, hopefully, and and I think they should be. Hopefully they're strong enough to know that you're not defined by whoever your biological parent is. You. You're your own person. So I think that they can, you know, hopefully not have that himing over them. I don't want that to be a shadow. Obviously they won't forget it, but hopefully that won't be a shadow on their life and who they could become. Yeah, I mean a lot of them are blonde haired, blue eyed humans, and so it seems a little clear that he was specifically choosing people based off of how he thought that they would look when they were born. It's so weird. I mean, how could they He did plead guilty to some of the allegations, but it's like, why won't he just outright say why he did it? You know, they need he needs to come clear with his motive because we can conjecture different theories as to why he did it all day and all night, but just tell us, just just give us the stamp, because these people deserve the answers. Yeah. And you know what, as much as I don't like any of this ship, but you go back to the Buffalo shooter, right, he's owning even though it's a horrific thing, He's owning what he did. He's not going on he lives streamed that he wrote it out there. These people that that think they're so tough and go and do something thing and then try and get out of it or try and say, oh, I'm not gonna tell you why, No own up to it you had the balls to do it right, you have, you're spewing all this hate or whatever it is that you're doing, then own up to it. Go ahead, live with the consequences. If you're that tough this doctor like, go ahead, tell people that you did it and why you did it. But he basically has no consequences, So why does he need to be the same thing with the Tinder Spindler Like almost no consequences. Tinder Swindler went the other way. They got stuff right. And so that's what I'm saying is that it feels like there's almost enough justice in the justice system. Wow, there's there's definitely some cracks. There's crack in the justice system. So I know now that if I am ever going to have a kid and it needs to be artificially inseminated, or if I'm later in life going to have my husband's have some sort of embryo situation created or in viata, whatever needs to be done, I will watch him jerk off into a cup. H Then I will watch the semen from that cup be put into a syringe and then into a Petri dish with my egg and then put into my body. I will watch i will watch every step of the way, because I do not trust anyone anymore. If my baby comes out blonde haired and blue eyed, my jeans are so weak. You know what I mean, Because I am as Jewish as you can get, but I am just It does make me mistrust the medical perfecttions, medical professionals. It makes me mistrust the system. I mean, if someone can do this and have no consequences, what else can they get away with? What else can you do? And why are laws like this in Indiana? That this is not considered a crime. It's non consensual. This is against women's reproductive choices. And obviously I don't at all understand how people are making laws for women's bodies and reproductive choices. And this is a completely separate conversation it is. But you're right, it's not that far off because the fact that there's no consequences for this this guy chose, you know, it doesn't matter if someone wanted to be artificially inseminated and they signed off on that. I'm sure there were other steps as to what they were looking for. They weren't like, give me anything, right, yours to be yours if you want. I'm sure there were things so the fact that he then took it upon himself to decide what what was going to be, you know, and some you know the correct term, but what what was going to happen? It's not up to him, and he's playing god. He's playing god. And it's like, I wouldn't go to an artificial insemination clinic and be like, yeah, it's time to play roulette. Yeah, let's see what happens. Yeah, just just anything. It's like, no, you wouldn't just say just anything. This is obviously something you've thought about for a long time, and you're making a calculated decision. You're not just gonna suddenly then be like whatever works, whatever, whatever you got in the back dock. Hopefully he didn't need didn't drink a lot of mountain dew. You know, there are people that are hammered and going to fast food joints and don't just say give me anything. They order something specific. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, yeah, yeah, there's a menu at the fertility clinic. There's a menu, and no one got to choose what they wanted. They were just forced someone else's sperm on them. I think that's pretty gnarly. I mean that would haunt me. I'm I would. I want to know more about the women who were inseminated, Like I wanna go have a conversation with them and see how they feel about this and what their husbands feel like. There's just so many wrongs in the situation, so many people hurt by this information. Imagining the husband who thought he had a child to find out he doesn't have a biological child, right or just yeah, right exactly, or even like this is something that they clearly they were having trouble getting pregnant, right, that's why you go to this. Or you're single and you know you don't have a partner, but dare you you went? You were just rubbing it in my face. Please you gotta Adam waiting for you lunch. We um. Oh my god, I've never heard that before. It was like a Disney princess all of a sudden, what the hell? Just scary to CVV nice and happy. It was not scary, It's a little it was jarring, not scary jarring, but these people, so this is what they wanted to be. And then, like I said before, it doesn't take away from the fact that they are now mothers and parents and this and that, and that's great, but but to go in there expecting something and then just have somebody else deciding should for you, and and like like how does that sit with them? All of a sudden? I mean, you ever go to the doctor and be like, oh my god, this guy is gross, you know, like, oh, but he's a doctor and he's Imagine then leaving and finding out that I don't know what this guy climbed visually looks like, but mentally he's gross to me. So now all of a sudden, you're like, oh crap. Also, you can you go to the doctor and they give you choice, you know, if you were you know, if you want to get the surgery, here's the option. If you don't hear the options, you know, and they give you options, you get medical choice. And this situation is there were no choice given to them. I just uh move. I have a history with doctors as well and not trusting them as an effect of it, and so this is specifically difficult for me to hear because I already don't trust most male doctors I've ever encountered. And you know, I won't get too personal right now about it because it is pretty dark, but you can already guess from the fact that I'm saying it's dark and male doctors. But I just think that this is further proof why a lot of people don't come forward, why because nothing happens, and then your name is just out there on the Internet attached to this tragedy, and it's almost like you're you're like being mocked, You're almost being made fun of because there are no consequences to this evil. So a lot of people make excuses for them as well, and that's where it gets super maddening. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I usually ask for female doctors, and I'm not saying that women can't do wrong. Just you know, I've been wronged by lots of women. I've been wronged by everyone. Okay, I'm a victims no, I just um, I just I mean this case really, it really triggers me out on a variety of levels. And for all the women out there who are trying to get pregnant or you know, have been artificially inseminated, or are very invested in what's happening through O. V. Wade in America right now, you know, my heart goes out to you, and lots of luck on this journey and I hope that you're safe. Yeah, that's well said, And I think the only thing I can say is there's you know, there's these types of things happen everywhere. Like there's no way you can go anywhere a doctor, a restaurant or whatever and know that someone hasn't done something wrong in whatever is going to happen. And that's a scary thought. But it's like that's why I just kind of used my best judgment, you know, and I think, Okay, do as much research as you can, you know, follow up, be as aware as you can. And then the other thing is it goes back to that uber driver. You know, there are there are sick people in the world. There are people that don't care about other people, and they feel they entitled themselves with whatever God told me to do this, I know this what whatever wherever they get their entitlement, they're not going to just stop and wake up one day and be like, oh, I can't believe I was like that. People always say like it's like people watch these politicians and they're like, why do they keep doing because they're not going to change. Why do you expect them to change? So what we need is more people like that Uber driver who draw the line and they're like, no, that's unacceptable, and you know what, you're not going to get away with that. On my watch, I saw a lot of people posting that they wanted to send him Venmo payments and just be like, for whatever happens, because you did this at work. Whatever, we just you know, we just want to send him something show that he's appreciated for being a good person. But you're right, there are evil people. People have taken evil action or bad actions in probably every place you've ever gone to. I mean, what do you think has happened in this hotel room? And it's just been me in here? That's why they're trying to break down the door, Like what is she doing in there? Like we really got to get in there and clean please. Yeah, they're gonna have to do an exorcism on this room after I leave. But they're just gonna as soon as you leave, they're just gonna come up and put police tape over the door. I mean, I'm so scared, but I anyway, this has been an interesting episode, just me unraveling as the human being. Anyway, am I less funny now that I'm happy. No, No, you did that little Disney princess voice that was fun. No, you're not. You're definitely not less funny. I think you're you're probably feeling less funny because you've put on the road for like eight years. And then you're like, I don't know. I think I'm in Duvine now and then I'm going to London. But I'm not positive and you I'm not. Actually, I'm a little concerned because when Adam spoke on the podcast the other day and I met him, I could have sworn that was an Australian accent. And you're like, no, he's from London, and I just want to make sure that you're going to the right place to see it. I don't want him and his parents cooking a dinner in Australia and you're in London looking for his address. Do you think he's the British tim nursemindler It's possible. No. I think he seemed like a nice guy. I was actually I'm very judgmental about people that I care about and who they are with. And granted it was just a quick blip, but he seemed like a judgment wise, he seemed like a good guy. He's a sweetheart, and you know, I've had a bad judgment about literally everyone else I've ever dated, So I mean this one is really up in the air as well. I guess we'll just see. That's why I said, even if he's a fifth cousin, I think we stick with it. I think we stay the course. I can't be trusted to make my own decisions when it comes to dating. See, this is a situation where I'm like, yeah, you choose for me. This is the only one. I need a team of people to decide what's right for me because I cannot be trusted with this one. I like that this is like a reality show with like you know, judges and stuff, like an American idols everything. I think, three Jewish grandmas. We whittle it down and then all of a sudden we're like, no Adams the guy. It's like The Bachelor. But I don't get a saying at all on who leaves. That's actually genious, genius. Someone else's a team of people is watching and they decide who goes home for you. I mean that's an arranged marriage, you know. Yeah. Anyway, this has been real time crime, and I've committed eighteen crimes since I've been in Dubai, just probably by breathing. But I do love it here. It's pretty cool. And again, if you're out here, I'm gonna be doing shows the Dubai Comedy Festival until Saturday ten pm every night. Dmitri. You gotta follow Dmitri on Instagram. I mean, honestly, you do. I just laugh every time every single stories a hit. That's very nice. Yes, feel free to follow me. It's public, go ahead at Dmitri pappas um. But I will say this was a kind of a heavy episode with the stories we took and our our hearts go out to everybody that was affected by all of these things. But I also want to thank you Leah for having a little bit of a off love life that gave us some levity at the top and bottom of this episode. I think with the word that you're looking for is compassion. I had compassion today. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the one compel. Let me write that down. I use it next time. Uh. What the lights just turned down in my room? I think I've been saying things against there is what the power didn't go out because you're still broadcasting? No? I don't know, guys, can anyone hear me? I feel like we should. This is like the Blair Witch Project out of my nose. Uh well, if this is the last time you see or hear of me, I did enjoy this podcast and I loved you guys, um I will miss you very much. I'm talking about crime and Dimitri. I don't know. I feel like a nine one one opright, I should just be like, stay on the line, Leah, do not hang up. Yeah, and Demitri, you're just like the principle you didn't call nine one one when you saw something better. You're like, how do we use this for the podcast? All I'm saying I'm gonna I'm gonna call Adam's parents and tell them to not make that an extra place at the table. All I'm saying is all I'm saying is if you you can't see me right now, but I'm in the complete dark. I think we're going to have a shot at this. This is that was so bizarre dark the dark. If anything happens to me, Dmitri, please make this episode about my desk crazy and we'll sure to do a special promo for it and make sure it goes viral. Because if it doesn't go viral, it wasn't worth it. Yeah no, this not this episode because we've already hit the time. But next episode I'll do it'll be a thing about you. It'll just be me with a scream, with like a chalk outline. It's so my usual backdrop. That's right, this is terrifying anyway, guys, just call us uh Dmitri. You can find Demitri on Instagram a Dmitri Pappas. Yeah, yeah, what what does happened? The whole thing is off the rails now I'm sitting in the dark. I'm honestly terrified. You're sitting in the dark. Talk into my talking like a Southerner. What the hell is happening? I don't know, I'm like guys, follow me on Instagram. This is so manic at Lee Lamar two ours, TikTok five ours, Twitter, same thing, Lee Lamar dot com for show dates, Real Time Crime Pod Instagram. Follow us there too, not just on my personal you know, and then you'll just get lots of insanity, but Real Time Crime is specific insanity just for the podcast. You know what, you love it? Call us live Lela's a voicemail. Yeah, I'm just just checking to see if hello. I think we should start playing voice mail. We should start playing voicemails. Leave a good one, Leave us a good one. Eight six one crime. Okay, I'll tell you what. We gotta end up podcast, but start tex text me every three minutes. If it goes nine minutes without hearing from you, I'll call the US embassy in Dubai. Love you guys, stay safe, I mean me especially well you'll well, I guess we'll find out how it goes. We'll talk to you from Adam's parents house. Love you guys. Bye. It's real time. Grow it real time? Gro I mean, is it actually real time time I'm solving anything? Or is that just the thing we say. It's a thing we say, got it? Okay, see you next week for more real time crime, only on I Horror Radio.