This Sunday on Real Life with John Cowan, anything goes as we welcome one of New Zealand's most authentic, straight-talking leaders: Hon Shane Jones.The New Zealand First Deputy Leader is joining John for a completely live and unscripted conversation. Known for his common-sense values, love for our regional communities, and refreshing refusal to stick to a political script, this is your chance to hear the real man behind the headlines.John Cowan will dive straight into a genuine, spontaneous chat about faith, family, and what truly shapes Shane's worldview.

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<div style="font-family: inherit; text-align: start;">This Sunday on Real Life with John Cowan, anything goes as we welcome one of New Zealand's most authentic, straight-talking leaders: Hon Shane Jones.</div>
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<div style="font-family: inherit; text-align: start;">The New Zealand First Deputy Leader is joining John for a completely live and unscripted conversation. Known for his common-sense values, love for our regional communities, and refreshing refusal to stick to a political script, this is your chance to hear the real man behind the headlines.</div>
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<div style="font-family: inherit; text-align: start;">John Cowan will dive straight into a genuine, spontaneous chat about faith, family, and what truly shapes Shane's worldview.</div>
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John Cowan hosts ‘Real Life’, a weekly nationwide chat show on Newstalk ZB featuring a different high-profile guest every week. John talks with them about their life, their upbringing, their passions and their view of the world.

Real Life With John Cowan

Shane Jones - Deputy Leader of New Zealand First

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/7784f840-c291-422a-924b-ad9000bbad71/clips/4735032a-9acd-4f0e-9805-b4d90073de81/transcript

Before scaling the world's most unforgiving peaks—from Antarctica to the Andes and the Himalayas—Sir Graeme was a "painfully shy" child growing up in Gisborne who was afraid of everything. His life transformed when he discovered the outdoors, leading to historic feats like the first-ever winter traverse of the Southern Alps in 1971.

But his greatest legacy isn't written in the snow. Spurred by a challenge to "do good for others", Sir Graeme co-founded the Outdoor Pursuits Centre (now Hillary Outdoors) and established the Graeme Dingle Foundation, which has empowered over 400,000 young Kiwis over the last 30 years. Recently awarded the prestigious global Order of Magellan for his lifetime achievements in exploration and youth advocacy, Sir Graeme joins John for an unscripted look at his extraordinary life, his worldview, and his latest mission to "move mountains" for the next generation of New Zealanders.

<p>Before scaling the world's most unforgiving peaks—from Antarctica to the Andes and the Himalayas—Sir Graeme was a "painfully shy" child growing up in Gisborne who was afraid of everything. His life transformed when he discovered the outdoors, leading to historic feats like the first-ever winter traverse of the Southern Alps in 1971.<br class="html-br"><br class="html-br">But his greatest legacy isn't written in the snow. Spurred by a challenge to "do good for others", Sir Graeme co-founded the Outdoor Pursuits Centre (now Hillary Outdoors) and established the Graeme Dingle Foundation, which has empowered over 400,000 young Kiwis over the last 30 years. Recently awarded the prestigious global Order of Magellan for his lifetime achievements in exploration and youth advocacy, Sir Graeme joins John for an unscripted look at his extraordinary life, his worldview, and his latest mission to "move mountains" for the next generation of New Zealanders.</p>

Sir Graeme Dingle - Adventurer and Youth Advocate

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Known to Kiwi audiences as the co-host of TVNZ’s Eat Well for Less NZ and Cooks on Fire, Ganesh brings a wealth of energy, humor, and heart to everything he does.Join us as he opens up about his journey, his passion for empowering people through food, and the values that drive him.

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<div style="font-family: inherit; text-align: start;">Known to Kiwi audiences as the co-host of TVNZ’s Eat Well for Less NZ and Cooks on Fire, Ganesh brings a wealth of energy, humor, and heart to everything he does.</div>
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<div style="font-family: inherit; text-align: start;">Join us as he opens up about his journey, his passion for empowering people through food, and the values that drive him.</div>
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Ganesh Raj - Food Educator and TV host

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This week on Real Life, John Cowan sits down with one of the most powerful minds in space exploration: NASA’s Head of Science, Dr Nicola Fox.As the Associate Administrator for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Dr Fox oversees a massive portfolio of roughly 100 interstellar missions. From exploring the profound origins of the universe to steering the scientific direction of the upcoming Artemis moon missions. A world-renowned physicist and engineer, she previously made history leading the Parker Solar Probe mission, humanity's daring first journey to "touch" the Sun.Behind her extraordinary career is a journey marked by immense perseverance. After tragically losing her husband suddenly in 2010, Dr Fox continued to break barriers in the male-dominated field of heliophysics, raising her two young children while driving some of mankind's greatest cosmic discoveries.

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<div style="font-family: inherit; text-align: start;">This week on Real Life, John Cowan sits down with one of the most powerful minds in space exploration: NASA’s Head of Science, Dr Nicola Fox.</div>
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<div style="font-family: inherit; text-align: start;">As the Associate Administrator for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Dr Fox oversees a massive portfolio of roughly 100 interstellar missions. From exploring the profound origins of the universe to steering the scientific direction of the upcoming Artemis moon missions. A world-renowned physicist and engineer, she previously made history leading the Parker Solar Probe mission, humanity's daring first journey to "touch" the Sun.</div>
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<div style="font-family: inherit; text-align: start;">Behind her extraordinary career is a journey marked by immense perseverance. After tragically losing her husband suddenly in 2010, Dr Fox continued to break barriers in the male-dominated field of heliophysics, raising her two young children while driving some of mankind's greatest cosmic discoveries.</div>
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Dr Nicola Fox - NASA's Head of Science

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/7784f840-c291-422a-924b-ad9000bbad71/clips/dc939c5f-26ed-4c66-8c60-b4cb00843f94/transcript

Shane Jones - Deputy Leader of New Zealand First

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