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Gaday, Welcome to our life. I'm John Cowen. Holly Arrismith joins me tonight. She's an alternative country singer. She's won this year's APRA Country Music Song of the Year. She's won it before in twenty twenty and a two year award for Folk Album of the Year before that, and she's just released her third album, Blue Dreams, and about to go on to around New Zealand, so she's got a lot to talk about. So welcome Holly, Thanks for having me, and congratulations on winning it another award. It must be a bit of a buzz.

Gaday, Welcome to our life. I'm John Cowen. Holly Arrismith joins me tonight. She's an alternative country singer. She's won this year's APRA Country Music Song of the Year. She's won it before in twenty twenty and a two year award for Folk Album of the Year before that, and she's just released her third album, Blue Dreams, and about to go on to around New Zealand, so she's got a lot to talk about. So welcome Holly, Thanks for having me, and congratulations on winning it another award. It must be a bit of a buzz.

Yeah, Yes, it's always nice to be recognized for what you're doing, and especially these ones that are pair voted that that always feels.

Yeah, Yes, it's always nice to be recognized for what you're doing, and especially these ones that are pair voted that that always feels.

Good, right to be honored by your fellow musicians. And is it a nice community of musicians when you get together with other muso's, is there a nice feel to it? And because there can't be that many musicians on the ground, so when you get together it must be quite quite fun in New Zealand has.

Good, right to be honored by your fellow musicians. And is it a nice community of musicians when you get together with other muso's, is there a nice feel to it? And because there can't be that many musicians on the ground, so when you get together it must be quite quite fun in New Zealand has.

A beautiful little community of songwriters and musicians and it's growing. It's probably bigger than most people think. But it's very kind of cooperative and everyone supports each other.

A beautiful little community of songwriters and musicians and it's growing. It's probably bigger than most people think. But it's very kind of cooperative and everyone supports each other.

It's not like a competitive environment.

It's not like a competitive environment.

Yeah, oh that's nice. And giving birth to a new album, it always sounds like it's such a huge thing getting these things out. How long has the album been in production or how long has it been to produce it?

Yeah, oh that's nice. And giving birth to a new album, it always sounds like it's such a huge thing getting these things out. How long has the album been in production or how long has it been to produce it?

Yeah, it took about four years to make this record, but mostly because I had a baby in that time.

Yeah, it took about four years to make this record, but mostly because I had a baby in that time.

So so a baby and to an album. Yes, that's okay, and all that's going well for you.

So so a baby and to an album. Yes, that's okay, and all that's going well for you.

Yeah, it's amazing.

Yeah, it's amazing.

Yeah, Parenthood, I mean it changes your life in many ways, but most of them.

Yeah, Parenthood, I mean it changes your life in many ways, but most of them.

Good and that comes out in this album too. Isn't it his aspects of it that refer to your becoming a mum?

Good and that comes out in this album too. Isn't it his aspects of it that refer to your becoming a mum?

Yes, definitely. The other title track, Blue Dreams Especially, is a song that I wrote in those early early months of parenthood where it was a pandemic. It was lonely, it was isolating, and I had no idea what I was doing, and I was very, very sleep deprived, and I was I wanted to hear a song that I could take comfort in because I thought, oh my gosh, I didn't know it was meant to be this hard, and.

Yes, definitely. The other title track, Blue Dreams Especially, is a song that I wrote in those early early months of parenthood where it was a pandemic. It was lonely, it was isolating, and I had no idea what I was doing, and I was very, very sleep deprived, and I was I wanted to hear a song that I could take comfort in because I thought, oh my gosh, I didn't know it was meant to be this hard, and.

I couldn't find a song. And I think most.

I couldn't find a song. And I think most.

Mothers are probably too busy to write songs, so there's not many songs about being a mother. So I somehow found the time to write that song that I wanted to hear.

Mothers are probably too busy to write songs, so there's not many songs about being a mother. So I somehow found the time to write that song that I wanted to hear.

I've sometimes heard it said that the first year of your first baby is the most stressful of your life. So I'm just amazed that within that sleep deprivation and stress and business, you actually found time to write a song. Or are you looking back reflecting on it reflecting.

I've sometimes heard it said that the first year of your first baby is the most stressful of your life. So I'm just amazed that within that sleep deprivation and stress and business, you actually found time to write a song. Or are you looking back reflecting on it reflecting.

Yeah, No, I wrote it in that time, and I yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, No, I wrote it in that time, and I yeah, I don't know.

I recall having my baby lying on the bed next to me kind of you know, they lie there and kick their arms and legs around and talk to the ceiling, and I had my guitar and I was trying to put my experience into words.

I recall having my baby lying on the bed next to me kind of you know, they lie there and kick their arms and legs around and talk to the ceiling, and I had my guitar and I was trying to put my experience into words.

Wow, that must be. Is that the way you've coped with other losses and trauma in your life?

Wow, that must be. Is that the way you've coped with other losses and trauma in your life?

Yeah?

Yeah?

I mean this record is a very human record, and it has experiences of death, identity changing, new life, the loss of ideals, and yeah, this songwriting is absolutely how I process all these things.

I mean this record is a very human record, and it has experiences of death, identity changing, new life, the loss of ideals, and yeah, this songwriting is absolutely how I process all these things.

Could I just reassure people after having her described this as about death and loss and things like this, you don't need to take a couple of alien before you listen to it. It's actually a lovely, melodic and upbeat album. Is it intended to sort of reflect on those things but to be sort of get you through it, to be a little bit sort of therapeutic even.

Could I just reassure people after having her described this as about death and loss and things like this, you don't need to take a couple of alien before you listen to it. It's actually a lovely, melodic and upbeat album. Is it intended to sort of reflect on those things but to be sort of get you through it, to be a little bit sort of therapeutic even.

Yes, And I think you know, I don't want to leave people with a sense of hopelessness or myself, so I always try to think about that when I'm writing. And there are some songs that are sadder than others, but the last song on the record as very uplifting and swan dive. It's called with the idea that just when you think that things will never get better.

Yes, And I think you know, I don't want to leave people with a sense of hopelessness or myself, so I always try to think about that when I'm writing. And there are some songs that are sadder than others, but the last song on the record as very uplifting and swan dive. It's called with the idea that just when you think that things will never get better.

They do.

They do.

And sometimes when you're in a bit of a dark spot, a bit depressed, it's great to lean on someone else's experience and hope and to pull them through.

And sometimes when you're in a bit of a dark spot, a bit depressed, it's great to lean on someone else's experience and hope and to pull them through.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Yeah. So the songs in the album, there are some that are quite soul form a lot of sort of more country style songs, and others are really quite upbeat, is the I think the term Americana. Is that the term that people use to describe the more rocky, upbeat ones or is it?

Yeah. So the songs in the album, there are some that are quite soul form a lot of sort of more country style songs, and others are really quite upbeat, is the I think the term Americana. Is that the term that people use to describe the more rocky, upbeat ones or is it?

Yeah, Yeah, there's definitely an American a strong Americana influence.

Yeah, Yeah, there's definitely an American a strong Americana influence.

The first half of.

The first half of.

The records, quite driven, quite intense, a little bit yeah, like definitely influenced by rock.

The records, quite driven, quite intense, a little bit yeah, like definitely influenced by rock.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We've got a beautiful full band playing on it with incredible musicians from New Zealand, Anita Clark on strings, Tom Harley on pedal steel and electric guitar, and Alex Freer on drums, caspazl on bass.

We've got a beautiful full band playing on it with incredible musicians from New Zealand, Anita Clark on strings, Tom Harley on pedal steel and electric guitar, and Alex Freer on drums, caspazl on bass.

So the yeah, first half is a more upbeat driven kind of.

So the yeah, first half is a more upbeat driven kind of.

Portion of the record, and the second half really goes back into kind of my folk roots and the more country feel.

Portion of the record, and the second half really goes back into kind of my folk roots and the more country feel.

Right, it must be fun touring with a band. I think most of the touring and performing you've done, you've just been on stage yourself with a guitar, So it must be quite different being out there with a big group.

Right, it must be fun touring with a band. I think most of the touring and performing you've done, you've just been on stage yourself with a guitar, So it must be quite different being out there with a big group.

Yeah, And I mean I haven't really done that yet. I'm about to do it. I've done it here and there in the past, but you're right, I've mostly played solo or with an accompanist and it's so nice having your friends on stage with you, and it really takes the pressure off of you kind of holding it all down yourself.

Yeah, And I mean I haven't really done that yet. I'm about to do it. I've done it here and there in the past, but you're right, I've mostly played solo or with an accompanist and it's so nice having your friends on stage with you, and it really takes the pressure off of you kind of holding it all down yourself.

So I'm looking forward to that.

So I'm looking forward to that.

The album also pays tribute to your granddad, and on the album cover there is a beautiful brooch that I believe that he made.

The album also pays tribute to your granddad, and on the album cover there is a beautiful brooch that I believe that he made.

So he didn't make it, but it was my grandmother's brooch.

So he didn't make it, but it was my grandmother's brooch.

Yeah, yes, and he my grandfather. So they were American, my grandparents.

Yeah, yes, and he my grandfather. So they were American, my grandparents.

They lived in New Mexico and then Arizona, and they, particularly my grandfather, he collected and sold art and antiques all his life, and mostly Southwestern style antiques. So I don't know where he found this brooch. It might be Navajo and made of silver and turquoise, and yeah, it was my grandmother's and it's a bucking horse and I've always felt this strong affinity with this horse, and I wanted to make it the album cover.

They lived in New Mexico and then Arizona, and they, particularly my grandfather, he collected and sold art and antiques all his life, and mostly Southwestern style antiques. So I don't know where he found this brooch. It might be Navajo and made of silver and turquoise, and yeah, it was my grandmother's and it's a bucking horse and I've always felt this strong affinity with this horse, and I wanted to make it the album cover.

I saw an old Instagram post that you put up where you had laid out on a table the things that you take with you on tour to sort of, I guess, make you feel at home. And the brooch was right there in the middle of it. And there's also a guitar strap.

I saw an old Instagram post that you put up where you had laid out on a table the things that you take with you on tour to sort of, I guess, make you feel at home. And the brooch was right there in the middle of it. And there's also a guitar strap.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah, my guitar strap is a beautiful hand carved leather belt that my grandfather used to wear, and I just tied some of his shoelaces, leather shoelacers.

Yeah, my guitar strap is a beautiful hand carved leather belt that my grandfather used to wear, and I just tied some of his shoelaces, leather shoelacers.

Onto the end and turned it into a guitar strap.

Onto the end and turned it into a guitar strap.

So why does he figure so large in your life?

So why does he figure so large in your life?

I grew up.

I grew up.

I grew up next door to them for the first four years of my life, so they were in that really foundational period and as I've learned becoming a parent, the first three of four years are really important to the child's development. And they were, Yeah, I guess they were attachment figures for me and.

I grew up next door to them for the first four years of my life, so they were in that really foundational period and as I've learned becoming a parent, the first three of four years are really important to the child's development. And they were, Yeah, I guess they were attachment figures for me and.

I.

I.

When we moved to New Zealand, we remained very close, even though there was this huge distance between us. And there's just something about perhaps that other part of my life or my identity that is almost mythological because I was removed from it. Of the desert and the music and the style of the Southwest, and my grandparents they were kind of rarely embodied.

When we moved to New Zealand, we remained very close, even though there was this huge distance between us. And there's just something about perhaps that other part of my life or my identity that is almost mythological because I was removed from it. Of the desert and the music and the style of the Southwest, and my grandparents they were kind of rarely embodied.

All of that, you know.

All of that, you know.

They they wore cowboy hats and turquoise rings, and I just love all of it.

They they wore cowboy hats and turquoise rings, and I just love all of it.

Isn't it sad that those formative experiences and as you say, they're the most probably the most important ones we ever have in our life. They drift into amnesia that there's so many experiences and cuddles and interactions that we had back then, and for most of us it's just a blank do you have you? But you do have really early memories of the American West.

Isn't it sad that those formative experiences and as you say, they're the most probably the most important ones we ever have in our life. They drift into amnesia that there's so many experiences and cuddles and interactions that we had back then, and for most of us it's just a blank do you have you? But you do have really early memories of the American West.

I do, and I also have was lucky to kind of make more memories as I got older, because I'd go return quite a lot. But Yeah, even though they drift into amnesia, I think that they are also quite deep somewhere within your subconscious and the things that I'm attracted to now visually are things that mirror that place. And when I go back to New Mexico and I'm in that environment, I really feel at home.

I do, and I also have was lucky to kind of make more memories as I got older, because I'd go return quite a lot. But Yeah, even though they drift into amnesia, I think that they are also quite deep somewhere within your subconscious and the things that I'm attracted to now visually are things that mirror that place. And when I go back to New Mexico and I'm in that environment, I really feel at home.

That's amazing, isn't it. It's embedded in there. So you're embedded in that part of the world, and you've been growing up in New Zealand all your life. When you look at your music, can you see some music that you think, yes, that comes from my American heart and other bits of music, yes, that comes from my New Zealand experience, or is it all just blending together?

That's amazing, isn't it. It's embedded in there. So you're embedded in that part of the world, and you've been growing up in New Zealand all your life. When you look at your music, can you see some music that you think, yes, that comes from my American heart and other bits of music, yes, that comes from my New Zealand experience, or is it all just blending together?

I do love American music and particularly the singer songwriter Americana country folk style. But then I also think you know my New Zealand heritage, which is Scottish and Irish and English. There's a lot of folk tradition and those places as well, and maybe that's why why there's a there's such a strong kind of Americana music scene in southern New Zealand, particularly in christ Church.

I do love American music and particularly the singer songwriter Americana country folk style. But then I also think you know my New Zealand heritage, which is Scottish and Irish and English. There's a lot of folk tradition and those places as well, and maybe that's why why there's a there's such a strong kind of Americana music scene in southern New Zealand, particularly in christ Church.

If you've just joined us, I'm talking to the best import we've made from America since my father's Chevy, Hary Arrowsmith, and we'll be talking more after the break about her quite stellar career in country music. This is real life on news Talk ZEDB.

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To Waking.

To Waking.

To Know, to face crime, weakness, Welcome back to real I'm talking with musician Holly Arosmith. She's well honored, she's won all sorts of awards, she's just got a new album out and the song that we're listening to there, Holly, what are we listening to?

To Know, to face crime, weakness, Welcome back to real I'm talking with musician Holly Arosmith. She's well honored, she's won all sorts of awards, she's just got a new album out and the song that we're listening to there, Holly, what are we listening to?

That was Desert Dove, the song I wrote in tribute to my grandfather.

That was Desert Dove, the song I wrote in tribute to my grandfather.

It's a beautiful song and you're talking about your grandfather before the break and your ties back to America. So you have been back to America? Have you toured in America?

It's a beautiful song and you're talking about your grandfather before the break and your ties back to America. So you have been back to America? Have you toured in America?

I've done kind of living room concert tours very diy in my twenties, And yeah, I mean, you could just tour there forever if you wanted to.

I've done kind of living room concert tours very diy in my twenties, And yeah, I mean, you could just tour there forever if you wanted to.

But do you want to or do you feel I mean, do you feel drawn back to America or do you think No, New Zealand is really where it's at for me?

But do you want to or do you feel I mean, do you feel drawn back to America or do you think No, New Zealand is really where it's at for me?

Do you know?

Do you know?

I actually don't. I don't want to live there and I don't want to tour that particularly.

I actually don't. I don't want to live there and I don't want to tour that particularly.

The reasons are that.

The reasons are that.

I've kind of reached a time in my life where I have a family and touring is actually very risky.

I've kind of reached a time in my life where I have a family and touring is actually very risky.

It doesn't guarantee to make money.

It doesn't guarantee to make money.

And yeah, I guess I'm just a bit tired of taking such huge risks. And also with the States. I just think when you compare New Zealand and America's places to live, I think we're very very lucky here right.

And yeah, I guess I'm just a bit tired of taking such huge risks. And also with the States. I just think when you compare New Zealand and America's places to live, I think we're very very lucky here right.

One of the things about touring is that you can have all your dates on the calendar and then in a day they can vanish. Yes, it's sounded like you're getting set for a very very exciting time.

One of the things about touring is that you can have all your dates on the calendar and then in a day they can vanish. Yes, it's sounded like you're getting set for a very very exciting time.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I booked this whole tour myself through Europe and the UK, and I was going to showcase it south by Southwestern Texas and it all went up in smoke overnight.

I booked this whole tour myself through Europe and the UK, and I was going to showcase it south by Southwestern Texas and it all went up in smoke overnight.

Yep. Yeah, you were I think you were hiking at the time and out in Lake Brunna. Was that it?

Yep. Yeah, you were I think you were hiking at the time and out in Lake Brunna. Was that it?

Yeah, out of reception. I should have just stayed there, I think.

Yeah, out of reception. I should have just stayed there, I think.

And you come back into reception and look at your phone and bang your worlds collapsed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well it did bring another love into your life at that time though. A bus. Yes, tell us about the bus because I've seen pictures. I've seen pictures of it. Is it still feature in your world?

And you come back into reception and look at your phone and bang your worlds collapsed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well it did bring another love into your life at that time though. A bus. Yes, tell us about the bus because I've seen pictures. I've seen pictures of it. Is it still feature in your world?

You still have?

You still have?

No?

No?

Oh, I'm sorry. Maybe this is a painful.

Oh, I'm sorry. Maybe this is a painful.

Story, then it's all right. Yeah.

Story, then it's all right. Yeah.

We bought this, My husband and I bought this nineteen sixty one Bedford busy, beautiful old railway transport bus with the curved skylight windows, and we.

We bought this, My husband and I bought this nineteen sixty one Bedford busy, beautiful old railway transport bus with the curved skylight windows, and we.

Were very naive.

Were very naive.

We thought it would take us three months to kind of change a few things and then move in, and it ended up taking three or four years because everything that could leak did leak, as we discovered when we pulled off the lining, So it was a huge, huge nightmare of a job. But I can now replace window seals and use a Rivet gun and all sorts of things.

We thought it would take us three months to kind of change a few things and then move in, and it ended up taking three or four years because everything that could leak did leak, as we discovered when we pulled off the lining, So it was a huge, huge nightmare of a job. But I can now replace window seals and use a Rivet gun and all sorts of things.

So all sorts of fantastic DIY skills and a musician needs. Look, I've been through your Instagram posts, and often they just self and other people's Instagram posts, would I say, are usually just self indulgent ego, skating and things like this. Yours is just a constant tribute to nature. You're obviously such a country girl. I can smell the wood smoke and the damp woods and the sea spray as I go through your picture, as you're a real artist there. But obviously nature is a huge thing in new life.

So all sorts of fantastic DIY skills and a musician needs. Look, I've been through your Instagram posts, and often they just self and other people's Instagram posts, would I say, are usually just self indulgent ego, skating and things like this. Yours is just a constant tribute to nature. You're obviously such a country girl. I can smell the wood smoke and the damp woods and the sea spray as I go through your picture, as you're a real artist there. But obviously nature is a huge thing in new life.

I'm glad that that's the feeling you get when you're on my Instagram, because it is kind of a horrible pit of.

I'm glad that that's the feeling you get when you're on my Instagram, because it is kind of a horrible pit of.

Yeah. I mean everything.

Yeah. I mean everything.

I am other people's play other ones, yes, not yours. Yeah.

I am other people's play other ones, yes, not yours. Yeah.

I grew up I mean obviously the first four years in the Southwestern America, and then I lived in Alexandria, the tiny town in central Otago. We had a df arm, and then I spent the rest of my childhood in arrow Town. So I've been very, very lucky to live in beautiful places, and I am a country girl for sure.

I grew up I mean obviously the first four years in the Southwestern America, and then I lived in Alexandria, the tiny town in central Otago. We had a df arm, and then I spent the rest of my childhood in arrow Town. So I've been very, very lucky to live in beautiful places, and I am a country girl for sure.

Yeah, it's totally spoiled you for anywhere else in the world. Probably you've probably lived in some of the most beautiful places on the planet. So, but the that comes through your music, you think, do you actually get charged up and inspired by what you absorbed from nature and that paus into your music, do you think? Oh?

Yeah, it's totally spoiled you for anywhere else in the world. Probably you've probably lived in some of the most beautiful places on the planet. So, but the that comes through your music, you think, do you actually get charged up and inspired by what you absorbed from nature and that paus into your music, do you think? Oh?

Definitely.

Definitely.

And I think I think that's such a huge part of folk music throughout the ages, is this connection to the natural world and an appreciation for the fact that we are connected to it and we're not separate from it, and there's a spirituality in that, and there's a.

And I think I think that's such a huge part of folk music throughout the ages, is this connection to the natural world and an appreciation for the fact that we are connected to it and we're not separate from it, and there's a spirituality in that, and there's a.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I think it's just one of life's richest gifts that we.

I think it's just one of life's richest gifts that we.

Get to partake in.

Get to partake in.

There's hints of anxiety and depression in your album. Is nature part of that process of getting through and getting beyond those tough times?

There's hints of anxiety and depression in your album. Is nature part of that process of getting through and getting beyond those tough times?

Oh?

Oh?

For sure? Yeah.

For sure? Yeah.

And I think winter. I find winter so hard as someone who struggles with mental health at times, and I think it's because you're just stuck inside so much and everything looks dead, and as soon as spring comes, I can just feel myself coming back and I'm really enjoying that right now?

And I think winter. I find winter so hard as someone who struggles with mental health at times, and I think it's because you're just stuck inside so much and everything looks dead, and as soon as spring comes, I can just feel myself coming back and I'm really enjoying that right now?

Oh great?

Oh great?

And I know that you that you've paid tribute to lots of musicians and that you get inspired by having musicians and it's and you've said, it's not so much their style, but the way they see.

And I know that you that you've paid tribute to lots of musicians and that you get inspired by having musicians and it's and you've said, it's not so much their style, but the way they see.

Life, and that you resonate with that. And if this isn't too big a question, how do you see life? And if that's too big, let's break it down. You know what is it that about modern life that that chills your heart?

Life, and that you resonate with that. And if this isn't too big a question, how do you see life? And if that's too big, let's break it down. You know what is it that about modern life that that chills your heart?

Yeah?

Yeah?

So I did have a lot of influences in this record, kind of philosophical influences like Patti Smith's Shanad O'Connor, Mary Oliver, Wendell Berry and New Zellen's Janet Frame.

So I did have a lot of influences in this record, kind of philosophical influences like Patti Smith's Shanad O'Connor, Mary Oliver, Wendell Berry and New Zellen's Janet Frame.

I Yeah.

I Yeah.

I think what I love about them is that they tell the truth, and that's what I try to do when I write. There's a beautiful quote from Joni Mitchell where she said people deserve to know how other people feel. And I think modern life, I mean, there's so many things that are wrong about it, but I think one of them is that in our culture, we're obsessed with success, achievement and how we how people perceive us. We're very selfish inward looking at times. And I think that when you expose vulnerabilities about yourself and art of music, it's kind of terrifying, you know, saying here I am I found motherhood hard in the first year. Well, here I am, I get depressed sometimes. It's very antique, kind of the Western way of.

I think what I love about them is that they tell the truth, and that's what I try to do when I write. There's a beautiful quote from Joni Mitchell where she said people deserve to know how other people feel. And I think modern life, I mean, there's so many things that are wrong about it, but I think one of them is that in our culture, we're obsessed with success, achievement and how we how people perceive us. We're very selfish inward looking at times. And I think that when you expose vulnerabilities about yourself and art of music, it's kind of terrifying, you know, saying here I am I found motherhood hard in the first year. Well, here I am, I get depressed sometimes. It's very antique, kind of the Western way of.

Isn't that amazing because it's such a universal almost experience And you'll probably find that people will just soak up your music because you do tell the truth.

Isn't that amazing because it's such a universal almost experience And you'll probably find that people will just soak up your music because you do tell the truth.

Yes, And I think that's definitely what I've found is that when you make something real, then people have a real connection to it.

Yes, And I think that's definitely what I've found is that when you make something real, then people have a real connection to it.

You experienced success as a musician and the songwriter very early on. I think you're winning your first awards at sixteen or seventeen, but your career you seem to have been quite happy to keep your your career on a low boil. Don't sound like a very driven person. Is this to sort of get a long term sustainability into your career or just don't have much as career drive. How do you see yourself in that respect?

You experienced success as a musician and the songwriter very early on. I think you're winning your first awards at sixteen or seventeen, but your career you seem to have been quite happy to keep your your career on a low boil. Don't sound like a very driven person. Is this to sort of get a long term sustainability into your career or just don't have much as career drive. How do you see yourself in that respect?

Yeah, I think I am ambitious in some ways, but my ambitions are more to do with how I want my life outside of my work to be and I've found that the more I push into the music industry and the way that it's set up, for example, extensive touring, being away from home all the time, I actually feel like I lose what I actually want, which is to be with the people that I love, and to be in nature and to have peace and privacy and all the things I think that make a good life. And yeah, so it is. I've I've had bouts of being more ambitious and kind of trying to break through or push myself, and then every time I just kind of come back exhausted and on the budget, burnout and thinking, yeah, honestly, the music industry is just not set up for artists. It's set up to benefit from.

Yeah, I think I am ambitious in some ways, but my ambitions are more to do with how I want my life outside of my work to be and I've found that the more I push into the music industry and the way that it's set up, for example, extensive touring, being away from home all the time, I actually feel like I lose what I actually want, which is to be with the people that I love, and to be in nature and to have peace and privacy and all the things I think that make a good life. And yeah, so it is. I've I've had bouts of being more ambitious and kind of trying to break through or push myself, and then every time I just kind of come back exhausted and on the budget, burnout and thinking, yeah, honestly, the music industry is just not set up for artists. It's set up to benefit from.

Them, right. Well, I know that we benefit from the music industry, and I don't suppose we really appreciate what a toll it takes on those people that are furnishing those lovely sounds and songs that help us and hear us. But I hope though, that you do enjoy touring when it's around New Zealand. And I know that because you've got a tour coming up. If people want to catch Holly, they can catch here. On the twelfth of October and christ Church and Wellington on the twenty seventh of October and a couple of dates in early November and Auckland. And if you're interested in finding out more details about her tour, then go to Hollyarosmith dot com and you can purchase tickets and also find out about her back catalog and all her music. Holly, it has been fantastic talking with you, and we're going out on another one of your songs. What have you picked for us to finish today?

Them, right. Well, I know that we benefit from the music industry, and I don't suppose we really appreciate what a toll it takes on those people that are furnishing those lovely sounds and songs that help us and hear us. But I hope though, that you do enjoy touring when it's around New Zealand. And I know that because you've got a tour coming up. If people want to catch Holly, they can catch here. On the twelfth of October and christ Church and Wellington on the twenty seventh of October and a couple of dates in early November and Auckland. And if you're interested in finding out more details about her tour, then go to Hollyarosmith dot com and you can purchase tickets and also find out about her back catalog and all her music. Holly, it has been fantastic talking with you, and we're going out on another one of your songs. What have you picked for us to finish today?

Oh, thanks so much for having me, And I've picked Blue Dreams, the title track of my new record.

Oh, thanks so much for having me, And I've picked Blue Dreams, the title track of my new record.

Right, it's a beautiful song. So let's sit back and listen to a little bit of that. And Holly, thank you so much for making time for being on real life.

Right, it's a beautiful song. So let's sit back and listen to a little bit of that. And Holly, thank you so much for making time for being on real life.

Thank you so much.

Thank you so much.

I'm John Cown, looking forward to being back with you again next Sunday night.

I'm John Cown, looking forward to being back with you again next Sunday night.

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