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'They're fighting for their season'

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Andrew Wu and Peter Ryan take inspiration from Ken Hinkley before looking ahead to round 17 in this week's expert tips podcast. Who will win the critical clash between the Pies and the Bombers? Is this the week the Suns get a win away from home? Plus, the stat that puts a handbrake on some of the excitement for the Hawks and a look at why the Swans struggle with slow starts.

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