One-time AFL behemoths Carlton and Essendon delivered more disappointment to their long-suffering supporters at the weekend, prompting Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall and Caroline Wilson to ask if either club has reached its lowest ebb. The league also comes in for scrutiny after a boundary-line blunder, inexplicable jumper clash and faulty fixture, but wins praise for locking in the grand final timing and entertainment.

The Hawks bottled it, now for the grand final
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Preliminary final predictions and Brownlow forecasts
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How Butters blindsided the Cats and thrilled the Dogs
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