The Swans sink to a new low, the Hok-ballers cough up ad-hoc effort, Melbourne "kick themselves to death", and we ask which acronym do the Saints need more: NWM or TDK? All that and more must-listen footy chat in this week's Real Footy podcast with Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall and Sam McClure.

No excuses for Collingwood, mutual hatred at Marvel
20:07

'A world of pain' for Brad Scott's Bombers
43:51

Rankine returns, Bevo's faith pays off
20:49