The Swans sink to a new low, the Hok-ballers cough up ad-hoc effort, Melbourne "kick themselves to death", and we ask which acronym do the Saints need more: NWM or TDK? All that and more must-listen footy chat in this week's Real Footy podcast with Michael Gleeson, Jake Niall and Sam McClure.

Rivalries, royals and rev-ups
20:42

To ruck or not to ruck?: The Dogs' Darcy dilemma
54:11

Injuries stack up against Bulldogs
21:47