In this episode of Real Crime with Adam Shand, we revisit Phillip's story.

Adam sits down with veteran barrister Philip Dunn KC to unpack the verdict in one of Australia's most shocking criminal trials: the mushroom lunch murders. Erin Patterson has been found guilty of killing her former in-laws and attempting to murder a fourth guest using deadly mushrooms.

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In this episode of&nbsp;Real Crime with Adam Shand, we revisit Phillip's story.
Adam sits down with veteran barrister Philip Dunn KC to unpack the verdict in one of Australia's most shocking criminal trials: the mushroom lunch murders. Erin Patterson has been found guilty of killing her former in-laws and attempting to murder a fourth guest using deadly mushrooms.
🎧 Want the full story? Listen to the complete episode now on<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/0xRWsMgz7f5LiuMt4LVnsS?si=PHRxXdFvTF-mpFRitOTmVw">&nbsp;Real Crime with Adam Shand</a>

Join investigative journalist Adam Shand each week as he takes you into his world of real crime, honed from forty years of covering Australia's biggest law and order stories. These are the firsthand stories of the cops, robbers, and victims who lived them.

Join investigative journalist Adam Shand each week as he takes you into his world of real crime, honed from forty years of covering Australia's biggest law and order stories. These are the firsthand stories of the cops, robbers, and victims who lived them.

Real Crime with Adam Shand

Join investigative journalist Adam Shand each week as he takes you into his world of real crime, honed from forty years of covering Australia's biggest law and order stories. These are the firsthand stories of the cops, robbers, and victims who lived them. 

Join investigative journalist Adam Shand each week as he takes you into his world of real crime, honed from forty years of covering Australia's biggest law and order stories. These are the firsthand stories of the cops, robbers, and victims who lived them.&nbsp;

BEST OF 2025: A Barrister's View on the Mushroom Killer | Philip Dunn KC

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Four Australian women, known as the ISIS Brides, returned home from Syria in May this year. Two were charged with crimes against humanity and slavery offences allegedly committed overseas. A third faced terrorism-related charges. And yet another 20 or more remain stranded in Syrian refugee camps, unable to get home.

The question isn't whether we like them. The question is whether the law applies equally to everyone.

Adam Shand is joined by Brisbane-based immigration lawyer Tanguy Mwilambwe of Sambi Legal to unpack the legal reality behind the headlines. Why can't the government simply keep these women out? What's the difference between joining ISIS and fighting with the IDF? And what does it mean for all of us when politics starts overriding the rule of law?

From temporary exclusion orders to mandatory visa cancellations, child brides to slavery charges, this is a story about what Australian citizenship actually means — and what we lose when we decide some citizens don't deserve its protections.

Four Australian women, known as the ISIS Brides, returned home from Syria in May this year. Two were charged with crimes against humanity and slavery offences allegedly committed overseas. A third faced terrorism-related charges. And yet another 20 or more remain stranded in Syrian refugee camps, unable to get home.
The question isn't whether we like them. The question is whether the law applies equally to everyone.
Adam Shand is joined by Brisbane-based immigration lawyer Tanguy Mwilambwe of Sambi Legal to unpack the legal reality behind the headlines. Why can't the government simply keep these women out? What's the difference between joining ISIS and fighting with the IDF? And what does it mean for all of us when politics starts overriding the rule of law?
From temporary exclusion orders to mandatory visa cancellations, child brides to slavery charges, this is a story about what Australian citizenship actually means &mdash; and what we lose when we decide some citizens don't deserve its protections.

Equal Before the Law: The ISIS Brides Dilemma | Tanguy Mwilambwe 

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When Doug Morgan first sat down with Adam Shand, the plan was simple: get both twins on the record, tell the full story of Victoria's After Dark Bandits, and move on. Nearly a year later, Adam is back with Doug for one final conversation — and this time, it's personal.

More than fifty years on from the bank and betting shop robberies that defined their notoriety, Doug Morgan is done looking back. He's running youth workshops, mentoring young people away from the path he took, and quietly tending to the memory of the father who shaped him. In this candid closing chapter, Doug reflects on the loyalty that drew him into a life of crime, the intimidation he witnessed and despised inside Pentridge, and the strange, volatile brotherhood that has defined his life far longer than any prison sentence.

When Doug Morgan first sat down with Adam Shand, the plan was simple: get both twins on the record, tell the full story of Victoria's After Dark Bandits, and move on. Nearly a year later, Adam is back with Doug for one final conversation &mdash; and this time, it's personal.
More than fifty years on from the bank and betting shop robberies that defined their notoriety, Doug Morgan is done looking back. He's running youth workshops, mentoring young people away from the path he took, and quietly tending to the memory of the father who shaped him. In this candid closing chapter, Doug reflects on the loyalty that drew him into a life of crime, the intimidation he witnessed and despised inside Pentridge, and the strange, volatile brotherhood that has defined his life far longer than any prison sentence.

After Dark Bandits: Doug's Last Word | Doug Morgan

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More than a century separates them, but the cases of Harry "Breaker" Morant and Ben Roberts-Smith share a troubling echo — Australian soldiers prosecuted for killings carried out in the fog of war, on foreign soil, in conflicts already morally compromised by the powers that sent them there.

Adam Shand sits down with Sydney lawyer Tony Taouk of Magna Carta Lawyers, whose essay in Lawyers Weekly drew a compelling parallel between the two prosecutions. From the chaos of the Boer War to the mountains of Afghanistan, Tony unpacks why applying civilian criminal law to battlefield conduct is one of the most difficult — and consequential — legal challenges Australia now faces.

How do you prove intent when decisions are made in seconds under fire? How do you reconstruct events from 14 years ago with no crime scene, no forensics, and immunity witnesses who were allegedly there when it happened? And when a prosecution feels politically expedient, does it risk creating the very martyr it seeks to hold accountable?

Real Tony's Essay in Lawyers Weekly Here: https://www.lawyersweekly.com.au/sme-law/44239-when-the-battlefield-enters-the-courtroom-the-roberts-smith-prosecution

More than a century separates them, but the cases of Harry "Breaker" Morant and Ben Roberts-Smith share a troubling echo &mdash; Australian soldiers prosecuted for killings carried out in the fog of war, on foreign soil, in conflicts already morally compromised by the powers that sent them there.
Adam Shand sits down with Sydney lawyer Tony Taouk of Magna Carta Lawyers, whose essay in Lawyers Weekly drew a compelling parallel between the two prosecutions. From the chaos of the Boer War to the mountains of Afghanistan, Tony unpacks why applying civilian criminal law to battlefield conduct is one of the most difficult &mdash; and consequential &mdash; legal challenges Australia now faces.
How do you prove intent when decisions are made in seconds under fire? How do you reconstruct events from 14 years ago with no crime scene, no forensics, and immunity witnesses who were allegedly there when it happened? And when a prosecution feels politically expedient, does it risk creating the very martyr it seeks to hold accountable?
<a href="https://www.lawyersweekly.com.au/sme-law/44239-when-the-battlefield-enters-the-courtroom-the-roberts-smith-prosecution">Real Tony's Essay in Lawyers Weekly Here:</a> https://www.lawyersweekly.com.au/sme-law/44239-when-the-battlefield-enters-the-courtroom-the-roberts-smith-prosecution

Fog of War: Breaker Morant's Shadow | Tony Taouk

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/clips/a7a21d94-adf4-4f5f-ae61-b44e0017531c/transcript

BEST OF 2025: A Barrister's View on the Mushroom Killer | Philip Dunn KC

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