In this episode, Chelsea & David share a special panel recording from the 2025 National Symposium Unifying Anti-Racist Theory and Practice, bringing together Prof Gracelyn Smallwood, Dale Ruska, Uncle Coco Wharton and Senator Lidia Thorpe to share their responses to the question: “what do we want? And when do we want it?” This rich and far-ranging discussion also offers vital context for our next few episodes, which begin to look at Indigenous critical race theory in practice, and the importance of intellectual work that can confront the scale, urgency, and expansiveness of the war on race in the colony. 

Reading list

Let’s Talk Black Knowing with Uncle Coco Wharton. With Chelsea Watego, David Singh, and Coco Wharton. Triple A Murri Country, October 25, 2024. https://triplea.org.au/lt-black-knowing-with-coco-wharton/.

Gregoire, Paul. “The Burning Question of Sovereignty: Interview with IAPA Candidate Uncle Wayne Wharton.” Sydney Criminal Lawyers, April 16, 2025. https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/the-burning-question-of-sovereignty-interview-with-iapa-candidate-uncle-wayne-wharton/.

Smallwood, Gracelyn. Indigenist Critical Realism: Human Rights and First Australians’ Wellbeing. Routledge, 2015

Ruska, Dale, Donna Ruska, Ann Ferguson, et al. Stradbroke Island: Facilitating Change. Edited by Regina Ganter. Queensland Studies Centre, 1997.

https://www.lidiathorpe.com/

Credits

Recordings and Production: Some of the podcast materials are drawn from Triple A Murri Country’s Let’s Talk Black Politics and Black Knowing, recorded in the studio between 2023-2024, hosted by Professor Chelsea Watego and Dr David Singh in addition to excerpts from QUT Carumba Institute’s National Symposium Unifying Anti-racism Research and Practice, all of which were produced by Anna Carlson.

Music: We wish to sincerely thank Matt Hsu’s Obscure Orchestra for granting permission for free use of ‘Live, Laugh, Decolonise’ and ‘Eat the World’  

Production & Sound Design: BlakCast Productions

Artwork: graphic by Rachel Apelt, Artbalm.

This podcast was supported (partially) by the Australian Government through the Australian Research Council's Discovery Indigenous Projects funding scheme (project IN210100008). The views expressed herein are those of the presenters and are not necessarily those of the Australian Government or Australian Research Council.

 

In this episode, Chelsea &amp; David share a special panel recording from the 2025 National Symposium Unifying Anti-Racist Theory and Practice, bringing together Prof Gracelyn Smallwood, Dale Ruska, Uncle Coco Wharton and Senator Lidia Thorpe to share their responses to the question: &ldquo;what do we want? And when do we want it?&rdquo; This rich and far-ranging discussion also offers vital context for our next few episodes, which begin to look at Indigenous critical race theory in practice, and the importance of intellectual work that can confront the scale, urgency, and expansiveness of the war on race in the colony.&nbsp;
Reading list
Let&rsquo;s Talk Black Knowing with Uncle Coco Wharton. With Chelsea Watego, David Singh, and Coco Wharton. Triple A Murri Country, October 25, 2024. <a href="https://triplea.org.au/lt-black-knowing-with-coco-wharton/">https://triplea.org.au/lt-black-knowing-with-coco-wharton/</a>.
Gregoire, Paul. &ldquo;The Burning Question of Sovereignty: Interview with IAPA Candidate Uncle Wayne Wharton.&rdquo; Sydney Criminal Lawyers, April 16, 2025. <a href="https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/the-burning-question-of-sovereignty-interview-with-iapa-candidate-uncle-wayne-wharton/">https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/the-burning-question-of-sovereignty-interview-with-iapa-candidate-uncle-wayne-wharton/</a>.
Smallwood, Gracelyn. Indigenist Critical Realism: Human Rights and First Australians&rsquo; Wellbeing. Routledge, 2015
Ruska, Dale, Donna Ruska, Ann Ferguson, et al. Stradbroke Island: Facilitating Change. Edited by Regina Ganter. Queensland Studies Centre, 1997.
<a href="https://www.lidiathorpe.com/">https://www.lidiathorpe.com/</a>
Credits
Recordings and Production: Some of the podcast materials are drawn from Triple A Murri Country&rsquo;s Let&rsquo;s Talk Black Politics and Black Knowing, recorded in the studio between 2023-2024, hosted by Professor Chelsea Watego and Dr David Singh in addition to excerpts from QUT Carumba Institute&rsquo;s National Symposium Unifying Anti-racism Research and Practice, all of which were produced by Anna Carlson.
Music: We wish to sincerely thank Matt Hsu&rsquo;s Obscure Orchestra for granting permission for free use of &lsquo;Live, Laugh, Decolonise&rsquo; and &lsquo;Eat the World&rsquo; &nbsp;
Production &amp; Sound Design: BlakCast Productions
Artwork: graphic by Rachel Apelt, Artbalm.
This podcast was supported&nbsp;(partially) by the Australian Government through the&nbsp;Australian Research Council's&nbsp;Discovery Indigenous Projects&nbsp;funding scheme (project IN210100008). The views expressed herein are those of the presenters and are not necessarily those of the&nbsp;Australian Government&nbsp;or Australian Research Council.
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Join your favourite “nerds on the frontline” Professor Chelsea Watego & Dr. David Singh as they embark on an ambitious new podcast to showcase the power and possibility of Indigenous critical race theory. 

Over 13 jam-packed episodes, Chelsea & David examine key concepts and ideas in Indigenous critical race theory to help listeners learn to “read the play” in the ongoing war on race. They dig into big questions about the ethics of anti-racist research and practice. They foreground the importance of working from Aboriginal terms of reference, and the power and joy of building intellectual collectives grounded in Indigenous Intellectual Sovereignty. 

Expect incisive interviews, gut-punch analysis, and the occasional belly laugh as Chelsea & David grapple with the life and death stakes of race in the colony and the work that mob across the continent are doing to fight back.

Join your favourite &ldquo;nerds on the frontline&rdquo; Professor Chelsea Watego &amp; Dr. David Singh as they embark on an ambitious new podcast to showcase the power and possibility of Indigenous critical race theory.&nbsp;
Over 13 jam-packed episodes, Chelsea &amp; David examine key concepts and ideas in Indigenous critical race theory to help listeners learn to &ldquo;read the play&rdquo; in the ongoing war on race. They dig into big questions about the ethics of anti-racist research and practice. They foreground the importance of working from Aboriginal terms of reference, and the power and joy of building intellectual collectives grounded in Indigenous Intellectual Sovereignty.&nbsp;
Expect incisive interviews, gut-punch analysis, and the occasional belly laugh as Chelsea &amp; David grapple with the life and death stakes of race in the colony and the work that mob across the continent are doing to fight back.

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