Is the feud between Taylor Swift and Kim Kardashian over in a technical knockout or could it still only be in the early rounds? What toll has it taken on them? Bethenny breaks it all down including…a mind-blowing, sliding doors style “what if” scenario!
I hope you won't be disappointed, But I feel like this experience has softened me and in the midst of me being home and this grief, and I am impressed. As my daughter used the words months ago by Taylor Swift, I think she is so talented and so driven, and she's good at marketing, and she's pretty, and she's you know, gives young girls a good role model. And I don't obviously know her, but she seems like a good person. And I saw her concert and I was thoroughly impressed by her work ethic, Like it was like wow, work ethic. And in her new album coming out, I saw what was going on in social media about her and Kim Kardashian, and I wasn't paying attention with that original happened that thing with I remember the Kanye moment on stage, and that was traumatic and taking away someone's moment, that's bad, and that's anecdotal for us. And we read that in a headline, but like, I can't imagine what that must have felt like. But what doesn't kill us makes her stronger. And probably that experience made her stronger. And speaking of a Kanye song, and he was with Kim and you know, Taylor Swift is the probably the nice girl in the cafeteria, and Kim is like the more hot, sexier, more advanced girl in the cafeteria, right, And Kim got with Kanye, and I guess there's been there was like a frank inbited recording of their phone call saying that Taylor approved something to be in a song, which is saying that tailor is a liar. But I think about the fact that a couple of months ago, during Taylor's tour, because Taylor, I guess, came out in Time magazine and like was on the cover, and she then revealed that it was traumatizing for her and that she left the country, and you know, it was really bad and you don't know how she was emotionally, but emotional low. I mean, it sounded really bad, horrible, and I'm sure Kim wasn't thinking about the consequences of her actions and actions. And you know, I'm gonna give everybody that. And Kim's a very hard working and driven person too, you know, which is interesting and the only person probably, I mean, there are other people more famous than Kim Kardashian. I'm sure, I don't know, I'm not. I don't follow fame that closely, but it's inarguable that Taylor Swift is more famous, more relevant, and you know, now more even global than Kim Kardashian. I mean, she's she's the Beatles, I mean two point zero in an age of social media. So Kim Kardashian, someone who's been successful and also wealthy, and you know, has a person who's more famous than her that now tells a magazine about a traumatic experience at the hand of someone else who's extremely influential. And I really thought that Kim would say something, just say something. You know, she's a mother, she's a role model to many and a parent, So to just say, like acknowledgment different time. You know, we all make it. I've made a lot of mistakes. I've said a lot of things I shouldn't have said. I said a lot of things that have hurt you. I said a lot of things that I regret. So now we come out and this song comes out and it's thank you Amy. Now, I the song was probably written a while ago. I mean people could write songs years ago, and now it's coming out. And Taylor's also a business person and a marketer and she leaves. I guess these clues, these little treasure hunts for people to find, and that she is a business person. It's not called show friends, it's show business. So more record, more albums will sell with these clues, and that's completely her right and her prerogative. And so some people, not that many. Some people can't believe that, like, oh my god, you know, it's so the clues are so big. It's like, kay I am in the song and it says talks about her daughter, and it talks about and the mother wished she were dead, like and that's being misconstrued. There's no way the tale. Tail's not wishing death on someone. She's saying a truth, like as my business to talk about how someone someone experiences a trauma, And it sounds like Taylor's saying that this was a trauma in her life. So now this song comes out and people are saying, we hope that this conflict can be put to bed. And did she need to bring the daughter into it and say, like your daughter, you know, Taylor said your daughter will be singing my songs or something. And Dave Portnoy's opinion has been like her whole family shouldn't be singing it. But what hit me and grieving and being home was what if Kim Kardashian had said sorry? What if she had said when the Time magazine article came out, Because we're playing Devil's Advocate, she didn't say sorry back then. She had three chances to say sorry. She still has a chance. So she didn't say sorry when it happened. She didn't say sorry when I guess she got caught for it happening. I don't know when that was. She certainly did it. You guys say so, then she didn't say sorry when it happened or when she got caught for it, And she didn't say sorry when after cooler minds have prevailed and Time magazine or I think it was Time Magazine puts Taylor on the cover as the most fascinating or interesting or influential Woman of the Year, and Taylor says it traumatized her, like you know what it's like to be a girl and like to go through a very bad experience. And then everyone in the headline's fade and we think she's just like fine now, and she's been traumatized. So Kim didn't acknowledge that then, And they're a family that doesn't acknowledge the negative people are on her page. She doesn't. They don't care, they don't acknowledge. They keep forging through. It's a model, it's you know. Some say it's gaslighting, some say it's ignoring. Don't ignore the haters. You know that the whole family just moves on through. And they're not the same person, the families, they're all they're all different human beings, which we'll get into. So if she had said I'm sorry, would it have been too late for Taylor to have released the song? Would she have released the song and sent a disclaimer that everybody can everybody can change, And I accept your apology and thank you as a mother, as a role model, as a woman. And then finally that fans should not be pitting them against each other. There's no team Kim team Taylor. You shouldn't be feeding and frothing it anymore than people should be feeding and frothing a rivalry between Meg and Markle and Kate like they're two different women and they should be acknowledged and supported differently. And many of you will have a problem with me saying that because I said crime a River about Megi Markle when she before her Oprah interview, before she sat down, and I did always have an opinion about the way that things were handled by she and her husban. But you know what, I'm going to apologize to her. I hope she accepts my apology. I'm going to apologize to you. I should not have said that, and I should not have assumed understanding what another person went through as another woman, as a mother. And I know many of you would disagree with her choices, many of you agree, many of you were hurt by it. It's about I didn't need to say that. I'm going to apologize for saying that or anything. I didn't need to say anything. I could have just talked about the way I just did. Now, I'm not against Kim. I've met Kim. She's professional, she's nice, She's a nice person. From what I've met. I've met Chloe, She's been lovely. I've said positive things about Kim's you know, makeup and her socks, and I've said positive things about all of the Kardashians. I said something once about Kylie's daughter wearing a backpack, thinking I was talking about a decision that Kylie made to put an expensive backpack on her daughter, and people agreed. That doesn't matter that people agree with me, and that I got follows and let I'm sorry I said it. And a woman named Nancy Rogers, who's good friends with Chris and the family, wanted me to apology. She said it was it's a child. I wasn't saying it to the child. The child was two years old, like that's but it doesn't matter, like I'm sorry. I'm sorry to Chris Jenner saying that, and I'm sorry that to Megan Markle. And Ellen DeGeneres called me after I said the first thing and said to me, I really think you should apologize. And she had her reasons for what she believed they were going through. And none of us know what anyone went through, good or bad, right or wrong. We agree, we don't agree. It doesn't matter. I didn't need to say it about another woman. And that's where I think that. Had Kim Kardashian just said I'm sorry, that Taylor might have said I forgive you and it's okay. We'll both strong women and Taylor will want to be a mother, and it would have been very different the result. That's what I feel. So and while we're at it. While I'm on the apology tour, I am sorry that I commented saying that Travis being the peacock in their relationship. I don't know Taylor or Travis, and I have said really positive things about their relationship and they're both in their moments of glory and they're together. But you know what, I apologize to Travis and his parents who took offense to me saying he's the peacock in the relationship because I'm a voice, but I don't need to talk about things that I really don't know. And I am certainly no one to be an authority on relationship because I wrote a book called Those Second Relationships You Don't have to And I genuinely apologize to Taylor and Travis and his family, and I hope that they live happily ever after in a very healthy relationship.