Pats gets a little “Fan Girl” in Part One of her chat with The Big Group Co-Founder and Media Personality Chyka Keebaugh. They talk about her collaboration with NY Style Icon Iris Apfel, turning 50, empty-nesting and the liberation of learning to say no.

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