Going Rogue with Larsa Pippen & Michelle Pooch

Published Dec 30, 2024, 4:33 AM

Larsa and her BFF Michelle are gossiping all about the men in Larsa's life, and she's setting the record straight once and for all on her current love life. They reflect back on their party girl era, how Larsa's kids handle her being in the spotlight and what it's like always being the reality TV villain.

Hey, guys, I'm Larsa Pippin and this is my best friend Michelle. Hey guys, and I am hosting Going Rogue today and I just kind of figured we can like have fun today and just kind of be open, I know, just to be open and honest and give a little more insight into.

You know, my life, Larsas since I know we're the best you do know me, I feel like we should start with You're known for being a bold presence on reality TV, But do you ever feel like you're misunderstood or mischaracterized by the media or fans.

I think so. I think like a lot of people don't really know that I'm like a giver, I'm a lover. I feel like I do have a side to me that's, you know, kind of tough sometimes, but I do feel like I offer a lot. I'm very giving until someone like does me dirtyll you like you can so take? I can take. Yeah, I take take until I go crazy.

I would say, as your best friend, when it comes to the media, you're definitely misunderstood because people too.

People think you.

Just sit around all day and do nothing, And I honestly have never met someone that has more on their plate than you.

I mean, I feel like I do a lot.

You do, and I do the most. I do the most, she does the most.

I handle the most. I feel like people people probably don't know what kind of mom I am because I'm like an amazing mom and I've dedicated my whole life to like my kids and making sure that my kids are happy and successful. And I don't brag about that. It's not something that I'm always putting out there.

I mean, I think your children speak for yourself.

Okay, yeah, how successful they are where they are in life. They're just incredible. You know, they're my baby's too. I love them, so I feel like they've done great jobs, as amazing jobs. But let's really get down to it. Let's go because you've been labeled a villain, and that really that really upsets me. Is your best friend when somebody says a villain, Because I feel like people always like to poke you because you're super nice and they don't realize like that you have boundaries.

You know. I feel like I'm very giving. I'm very generous. I give my time to all my friends. But I think sometimes if like you keep doing me dirty and you keep putting me in a position where I have to defend myself and fight and like poking the bear.

If you keep I just say that bear to poke you, and then you're going to get a villain.

Then I could potentially be villainous.

But it did work out for you. You are on House of Villains.

I mean, if you're going to give you a name, at least get paid for it.

Seriously, seriously, It's just it's just one of those things. I feel like I don't want to be cast as a villain, But at the same time, I think anyone could be villainous.

Everyone should have a little villain in them because you don't live in a.

Fair world with total people.

Yeah, let's just be real and people okay with that?

Another note is like people don't understand how much work you put into have the success that you have.

Do you know what I mean?

People think things are just handed to you. It's like hater nation.

What it?

Hater nation? All right?

So on House of Villains, you made it clear that you didn't come to make friends. What drives that mentally, especially in a competitive reality show as your best friend. I can answer this partially being a unit and growing up and being the oldest sibling. Yeah, as well as like you know, you had a lot of pressure on you to make sure that your younger siblings were successful and so like keep ordering the house.

It was kind of like your job totally.

But I think for me, when I first got to House of Villains, you guys, I just shot Traders. And when I was on Traders, I thought everyone there was my best friend. I thought all the housewives were my friends. I thought everyone was my friend.

The name of the show is called Traders, but I thought I called friends forever.

No, I know, but I just thought that we had some type of bond, you know. I didn't think that like I would get cast off the show so fast because Sphajor was a Trader. I do feel like being on Traders really taught me that, like when you're wanting to do these competitive TV shows, I think you can't really go into it thinking like I'm going to have friends here. I think you can have friends outside the house, but I think when you're filming a competitive show, you really are on your own and you really have to understand the strategy and the game. And I think that's kind of how I went into House the Villains. I went into it knowing it was some training. I had some training, you guys, Traders really did.

Seeing Housewives, it's like that's like battle of the life.

This girl comes home and it's like when she comes home, it's like.

Liked from like.

Filming with these lunatics.

All right, So how is your perception of fame change since your early days in the spotlight. What's like the difference between being on Villains and Traders versus being on Housewives.

I think it's different. I think doing competitive shows is very different from doing like an all cast on some like a girl cast, because I think, like I like being on shows with guys. I think guys are very different. They're not as caddy as the girls. Yeah, girls are more caddy on Housewives and other female ensemble shows, you know, docuseries, Whereas when you're doing a show with guys, let's.

Just say that you know how to control men a little bit more than women.

I am better with guys some people. I feel like I've always been better with guys, though. I mean, if you're not grow like I can be ground because I do feel like I do get along better with guys sometimes.

All Right, So, as someone who's been in the public eye for over a decade.

How do you manage constant scrutiny and expectation. I don't really listen to.

All the times like this.

Yeah, no, I you guys, I don't even I don't even listen to I feel like I'm so over like the two percent of people that want to write negative things or you know, scrutinize every decision I make. I feel like I'm okay with every decision I make, because in my my there's no such thing as a bad decision.

Like it's like a learning learning experience.

You're supposed to learn from your decisions. And if I did it, there was a reason why I did it at that moment, and I needed to do it. It's not like I'm doing anything that's you know, I don't make decisions that are like crazy. I do things that I'm okay with, you know, as long ago. I mean, you're sually great at nights you're doing what like, oh, bab I don't I know, God she knows. But yeah, I don't really worry about the noise. I just kind of focus on the positive things and the people that I'm around and making memories. To me, that's more important than listening memories and money. Memories and money. I rather do that than focus on the negativity that.

It's got time for the mind.

I don't really put energy into that.

So your role in Real Housewives of Miami has evolved over the years. How have you grown and changed as a person since the show first premiered in twenty eleven.

My god, it was so long ago, wild, I think that my kids were so young when I did the first season, and I didn't know what I was doing. I was like married and I was a housewife where I didn't really have a voice. I felt like everything was around my ex husband, my kids, like I was the last on the list to be taken care of, Like my first party was my kids, and then it was my ex husband. And so I feel like this time around when I came back, I was more I was more independent, I felt better about myself individually, and I just feel like I'm a whole different person than I was.

Well, you've definitely evolved again.

You evolved with the pace of the children and where they are, you know, as far as schools and things like that.

And I also feel like I have way more time now like I was. So I was like a helicopter mom with my kids.

I just have more time, and then you just pile on more and more. I know, who filmed three shows.

Of one year. I don't know it was fun. It's kind of crazy.

I am sure the fans and everybody want to know how it is to even date and how to bring up past relationships that you've been in while having your life completely exposed.

I don't. I don't know, you guys, it's really hard to date in twenty twenty four I'm sure twenty twenty five.

Period for anyone.

For a regular person, yeah, famous, it's hard to date.

But for me it's hard because I feel like everyone will end up knowing my business, and that to me is like hard because if you get to meet someone and you want to see if you even like them in that way, as soon as you're seen out with that person, you were linked to that person forever. That person is going to be in your Google like alerts going to You're going to be stuck with that person forever, and you don't even know if you like that person. So I definitely feel like I need to be more cautious going into like new relationship.

I mean, if you knew how many times, like he's our hairdresser security, because yeah, even know them, but they're approaching you and like you're supposed to have a life as well. But it's definitely tricky when it comes to being out in the public and even just having a conversation about the weather.

I just think it's like hard because people talk, and I think people assume that some relationships are more than they are. And I think sometimes when I meet people, I like to be friends with them for a long time, get to know that. It's yeah, I'm more of like, let's be friends, let's get to know each other. And as soon as you're seeing out with that person, it's like, oh, you used to date him. I'm like, when I say I used to talk to him, there was probably like three conversations on the phone.

Yeah, it wasn't like they saw us at a place and everybody had a drink and yeah, you know, and it was not that serious.

So it is hard to date, for sure.

It's definitely hard today.

But it's also when you think about it, it's like, you're famous enough that people don't even really have to google you. You've been in the media a lot, but people it's hard to tell if you can trust somebody because you don't know if they want to be with you because they're a cloud chaser, or you know, they want their own fame, or you know they're fame war.

I don't know.

It's just it's very hard to really tell when somebody is being genuine and wants to get to know you.

Yeah, that's super difficult.

And I think that's kind of where you're at right now too, being burned in other relationships. People changing who they are. They come in it like most relationships, they come in.

As show you.

It's like they go backwards. They come in as a prince, they leaves a frog. Yeah, it's like ass backwards, I think.

I think for me, I just have to be very cautious of who I am seen out with, do you know what I mean?

Like, Yeah, that also makes it very difficult because you can't control your environment.

When you go to a restaurant or you go to a party, you.

Don't really know you know, in intimate settings, yes, it's very known. In our group chats to who's coming, who's bringing who. If someone brings a surprise guest, it's.

Like, oh, I don't feel good. I have a headache.

Baby, because we're very much where when we go out and we have time that we can have dinners and enjoy our fun time, we want to do it with people that we don't have to worry about what we say totally we do or if there's an ulterior motive or an agenda that somebody has that's not.

You know, the way that we roll totally. I think that's why we have a really good core friends.

Lars's very supported not only by her family and her kids, but we have a really good group of friends and we're really lucky for that totally, and it's hard to get through us.

I do feel like maybe being more selective and not necessarily you know what else I do. I think that's kind of crazy with guys. Is as soon as I meet and we fall.

In love in like a week and you're a lover.

Yeah, I gotta stop that. Stop that.

I'm this is while New Year's is coming. That could be your news resolution.

Yeah, no more love conversations after a week. I am not telling a guy I love him ever again. I think that's what they stay it and I always say it back. And next time a guy told me he loves.

Me and it doesn't have value anytore.

I know, I'm going to run, but you're really lovable, so I get it.

I get it too. But then it's like it's weird.

Yeah, because when you really break it down, the people that say that in the beginning, they're not around anymore.

They're gone as fast as they said I love you. They're like, I'm like out of here, love. Where's all the love? All right?

So you have experience highs and lows in the media. What has been the hardest thing to navigate in your career.

I think what's been the hardest thing to navigate is like being a mom and then being Larsa, because I think it's hard to be both sometimes, Like I think like my kids would rather may be a mom than be Larsa.

You still are a mom and Larsa you do it pretty well. But yes, it's definitely it's got to be. It's challenging.

Yeah, I think my kids would rather be mom.

Like when we go to basketball games, the kids' games, we have to like sit in row seventeen or we're like, yeah, courtside Queens, So it's like it's reality.

So when little Scotty gives us seats and I say, hey, I want to come, and I think I want to sit court side, and he goes, no, I want to give you the family seats. I want you to sit with the rest of the moms and the nosebleed and.

But then we become friends with everybody.

We do. It's super fun. But he does not want us to come to his game and like shine and like take attention away from and I respect that. Yeah, so that's kind of what.

It's hard, I think, And it's nice. It's interesting to watch, you know, from a different angle. Yeah, a different point of view, totally a different point of view. Okay, what's your take on how the media loves to create narratives around celebrity couples, especially with your past relationships being so highly covered.

I think it's fun for the media to create all these like fake narratives.

It makes good stories.

Half the time, I feel like I know people and the stories are so false. I think sometimes it's like, you know, it's like the big fish. Hey, I caught a fish. It's this size. No, it's it was this size.

It's just big.

Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like it's it makes for.

A good story. I definitely makes sure.

I've definitely been linked to guys that I've never hung out with.

This is true.

I was linked to Ben Simmons, do you remember? And I never saw him out well.

When I saw that, obviously, I was like I'd see things. Some people ask me all the.

Time, and I'm like, when I would never tell your business, I might.

Yet I feel like so many guys, I'm like, I don't even know him, by the way, Like who is that again? Yeah?

I mean, And it's hard because like we've been at parties where they're like.

Larsa and Michelle.

We're here with Sonta and those people were at the parties and we never saw them.

We never saw them.

Sometimes you wish we did.

There's a story. I wish it'd be, like, you.

Know, a reason for these There's so many stories, Like we could go to the grocery store and a story can pop off.

We want too many avocados.

We're bacon cakes for you know?

Yeah, I guess so, I guess.

So now that the kids are grown, how do you feel about your public persona?

I feel like more free.

No, my kids scrutinize everything I know.

They're like on top of me. If I post a photo, my kids will reply and be like really or I think when they were younger it was easier. Now that they're older, they see everything, they know everything, their friends send them everything. So it's definitely harder, I think, and I'm.

Trying to really, Yeah, I wouldn't think that.

I think think that now that they're not in like lower grade of school with other like you don't have to do pta and judging moms and stuff like that.

No, my kids are make it easier.

No. I feel like my kids are like like little Scottie will send me articles all the time.

They're definitely hard on you.

Yeah, they're like tough. They're like, mom, don't be seen with that person. Are you serious? Or like it could be like a girl that's like a wild girl or whatever, and my kids will be like, are you serious.

Well, I tell you that she is your best friend.

I'm like, yeah, she's not a good look, yeah you know. Yeah, And you're just you're really sweet and you're really kind and I don't think people know this about you, that you don't care what somebody what their past is, or you're just really non judgmental and you need to add a little more judgment.

Into the people that you, you know, interact with.

I think I see the good people, so I feel like good people make bad You just believe that everybody's good.

I do, and then when they show you who they are, You're like.

Oh my, and then I'm a villain. I let them, I let them in, I give them love, I show them everything, and then when I see that they're not what they claim to be, then I guess I could be a little bit of, you know, a villain. Yeah, I know, And I think I think I'm really good at though. I'm really good inviting people to my block party, your block party. Yeah. So it's like it's hae too. Yeah. If someone just shows me who they are and I just feel like they're doing the same thing all the time, I have no problem blocking.

You out of my life me either. Yeah, it's like they never existed. You know, we have some friends recently we can tell a story about. I do think that, like that's a very new Larst thing, because in the past, I could never like not communicate with someone that was in my past. I just felt like I was tied to that person. I had to like not cut them out of my life. The thing called history having history with somebody and you feel like, but I've known them for twenty years and yeah, our kids grew up together, and you know, we got married at the same time and all these different things that you think you have to and now it's like, that's so such growth that we have because they're just like, I'm we're hairdressers.

Yeah, we're just cutting snip snip.

It's just it's unfortunate.

And I think after the people, I think the more famous you got, the more people started to show their ass of like jealousy and they wanted it or they felt like, well, why am I not climbing up this high?

And I don't know.

Maybe that's why we're best friends because I want you to win and everything, and you always you're my biggest cheerleader. You always want me to win. You're like you shoot it straight. Like if I see guys, she'll see a guy. She'll be like to send me a picture. Like I'm almost scared to send her a picture because Nina ten times, she's like he's gonna do this.

She's also clairvoyant. He's gonna do this, this, this, this thing.

I'm like, he's not the guy.

You know what was great is when you were shooting these shows, you were really able to have time by yourself. You didn't have a choice, so you would do House of Villains and she'd be like, Michelle, I'm going to be in a room for like with a roommate.

I don't even know, three weeks. And I'm like, three weeks. You can't get this girl.

To go to Europe on a yacht for three weeks, Like she can't not be with her children and be home and have her routine and family, hair and nails, all.

That good stuff. And she's like, no, I'm gonna do it.

And I was like I saw her evolve and become this person that's like I'm going to do it, And I go, this is going to be so wonderful for you.

You're going to be able to.

Sit and actually hear yourself speak. You've had so much noise and chaos around you for so many years that you haven't been able to truly say, who the fuck is Larsa.

Let me sit with her for a minute. I like her, she love and she has good hair. But you know what I was going to tell you that I feel like the first time I felt like I started losing friends is when I was going through a divorce. Oh, and I really realized that a lot of people in my life liked me just for being Scotty's wife. And then that was the first like you know, Cletse, it was like me going through my divorce, me losing a lot of people along the way, and then I had other friends. It basically liked me more when I was Scotty's wife and not necessarily Larsa. And I was trying to figure out who Larsa was, Like I didn't know how to navigate is being single transformation? Yeah, it was real rough.

I mean it was with me when I went through my divorce, went through it at the same time, and it was very similar situation for me. And I was like even like with playdates with my daughter, like we're not invited anymore, or like I'm not because I'm a single girl, like as if I want your husbands.

People literally just people are so crazy by single women. And it's so crazy to me when I think about that, I feel like I have never in my life been threatened by anyone. I am not in competition with anyone but myself. Like that, it's not a vibe and it's not a way to live. It's just not the way to be, absolutely not. But I also as we get older, we're looking at it. Like with the whole cutoff thing is when big moments that seem like bombs erupt in your life, like divorce and stuff like that, and people get cut off, it's like such a blessing because when you really sit back, at first, you're like, you know, you're a little but hurt about it, and then you realize, what the did they bring to my life?

What were they doing?

They were draining my energy, They weren't truly here for me. Thank you God for getting them out of my life.

Yeah, no, I'm sure handled that. I never really lost friends until like I got divorce, and then I kept going through different phases of my life. And you know what, I am so happy and I'm so grateful for the people in my life. I don't but I'm so grateful for the people that left my life because God opened up a whole new door. Wow, and it was seven feet tall and just way better. I'm so much happier.

Yeah, And I do want to go back to when you were filming the shows and you were by yourself, and I remember you went on Traders with someone, but then you were there by yourself too, and you were like, I really enjoyed the time. I really had time to read, sit in my thoughts and have a game plan for my life and foresee this beautiful future. And you know, and you really did it, and I'm really proud of you. I think it was not easy, no period, and go to she's swimming in cold water doing things that we could never get her to do.

I think I've done things backwards. So I feel like I was like an I was like a mom at a really early age, and then my kids got older. Then I kind of was like back in my twenties. You know, I was doing all the things that I was supposed to do at twenty. I started doing it when I was forty.

I know, I've been.

Doing it with you. Yeah, I feel like it's okay. Yeah, as long as you're living your best life and you're happy and like around you were happy and you're growing, I feel.

Like that's all that matters.

That's all I care about. It's like surrounding myself with the people.

You just like to We wake up every morning, we like to laugh.

I definitely feel like me being on House of Villains. It makes people think that I'm a villain.

But at the same time, I also housewives.

You're not a wife.

I'm not a wife.

I was a wife. No, I'm not discreditble.

I do housewife, it's just the name. I do housewives duties you do. I cook, I clean, I entertain.

Yeah, I do also work and I dined and hustle.

You know, yeah, I do it all party party. But I will say this, I'm not a villain, but I definitely have a site to me if you keep like picking on me. You know, baby doesn't like to be put in the corner.

Well no, I mean again, it goes back to people wanting to poke the bear and alter your motives so they know that they're gonna get more camera time.

They know they're going to you know, because you've got a lot going on.

Yeah, you know, you know what's really interesting.

Like the shiny toy.

Everybody wants to play with it, and then sometimes they play with it inappropriately and they get handled.

Right, I'm like the cute dog that you try to like overly like get aggressive with, and the dog bites you.

That's kind of me, Like, oh, I'm going to really bite somebody. I think.

I think bark.

No, I just think it's like stop testing me because you're like it's crazy.

And sometimes I'm like, don't do it.

And then it's like at some point you're just gonna you don't have a choice, but you know that.

I feel like there were times when I first started Housewives that I whatever the producers told me to do, I would do. They'd be like, hey, can you come up it. Yeah, They'd be like, show up at eight o'clock, We're gonna film until eleven o'clock. And then finally I woke up one day and I was like, I am not going to be doing that all day, Okay, So this is what I want to sign up for. This is what I want to do. And I feel like I felt better once I found my voice, you know what I'm saying. Even when I was married, I felt like everything revolved around my ex husband, like I had to make sure he was good, he was happy and everything. And then one day I woke up and I was like, I want to be happy. Yeah, I want to do what makes me happy sometimes too, and honestly, like I've been pretty happy. I feel pretty good.

I think you are happy and I love that.

Yeah, I feel like we're thriving, we're winning, and yes I can be a villain at times, but I love that part of me too. You've got to take the bad with the good. You can't just take it.

It's bad, I think defending yourself and being called a villain. Okay, fine, Like, not everybody has to.

Play in the same sandbox.

No, my soundbox is beautiful.

It's on an islands like Tahiti.

Exactly.

If you could build or we we're a team, we can construct the perfect man.

Like, let's throw some things out there. Let's start with height. It's height important, Okay, but is.

It about I know we have to physically be a that's start physical and then we could talk about the Okay, I think he should have two eyes, he should have a cute nose, cute lips, and good teeth.

Teeth are so important.

Yeah, but do we really want to say a tall guy because I feel like that's the only thing that like is in my mind. But I think maybe that's not the vibe.

How about tall with personality?

Tall with Taller guys are more troubled. That's a fact. Taller the taller you are because you have more options, because you get jobs easier. Maybe we need to date someone that's like five to seven.

Well I'm five to nine, so well, you can look down on it.

I think that that's the thing.

I don't want to look down on anybody.

Okay, so okay, Ideally if I wasn't, if I wasn't, Okay, if I wasn't Larsa, No, if you're Larsa, nobody can as if you weren't.

That's that could be, okay, Joe Schmoe.

I like tall.

Let's just keep it real, like what tall?

I like build guys. Okay, I'm building a man.

I wish I could build a man, Build a man, build a bear.

I want a tall, cute, fun, handsome, smart, independent leader.

That's also I would agree with you. I don't. I think you know, nice, height, successful, funny. I also like kind of wild a little bit.

I get back. I do not want to.

I like adventurous people like I want to go on adventure, like let's wake up, let's go to Bali for a week, and you know, let's go crazy, Let's go to South France and wherever the hell we you know, adventurous, I don't mean it like wild where you don't know what they're doing and they're doing the most.

No, I mean with within.

When I think about the qualities that I'm really attracted to, I feel like the top three qualities that and a guy that I'm really attracted to are probably like successful, smart, and driven. To me, those are like the three things that like, well.

If you're successful, you're going to be smart.

So say we have three things for me, Success, humor, Like I need somebody that has like a very humorous personality.

I'm just so funny and.

Like if they don't funny out for both of you, it's not but it's funny Netflix.

I don't want to find you guys not necessarily they have to be funny, but they have to understand your humor. Okay, okay, so success personality has to be good.

And just like an overall kind heart.

Yeah.

I think kind that's like that loves their mom and like loves you know, just just like has a kind heart because kind hearts need more kind hearts.

Yeah, I don't know. I feel like my three things for me like where I am in life. I feel like I want to be with a guy that's like.

A boss, successful, that's what's successful the boss that can lead me.

I want to be let I'm saying guys that I need to lead.

It's like, I mean training days over, okay. Yeah, I'm like, you're going to raise our kids. Like, the last thing I'm going to do is raise a man. It's so much work.

It's never ending work. When you're dating a guy that you have to like constantly be like, you're great, sweetie, you're doing it.

I feel like you're gonna do that regardless of the person. But if they come with the right attributes into the relationship of they're already successful, they're already driven, you know, they already have that, then there's just more fun and more fun to grow than versus training them. Yeah, it's the one that's the difference that we have there.

So if you're out there, Paula, well, guys, thank you so much for tuning in with us. We love you and appreciate She's fun. Bye.